Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-04 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 03/09/2003 à 10:33, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :
> > fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ?
> > 1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
> > netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
> > say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
> > bit official package policies.
> official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to 
> install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package 
> for flash, right ?

me newcomer from windows, me used to dl flash/real plugin form
adobe/Real as explain by practically all using flash/Real, me just grab
rpm from adobe/real and install it, me don't want to join club or don't
have enough money to join club.


> > 2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
> > version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
> > I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
> %trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to 
> another one.

and to mozilla to look at it where most of the time flash plugin is
installed.




Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:

Le mer 03/09/2003 à 10:33, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :

Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :

fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ?
1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
bit official package policies.
official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to 
install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package 
for flash, right ?


me newcomer from windows, me used to dl flash/real plugin form
adobe/Real as explain by practically all using flash/Real, me just grab
rpm from adobe/real and install it, me don't want to join club or don't
have enough money to join club.
rpm are not all the same. An rpm for one distribution is not said
to work (or better to say works flawlessly) on another...: this is
true even from the the same distribution (e.g. MDK 9.1 vs 9.2),
imagine from a alien distribution...
BTW, browser plugins can be also installed on a per user basis to
$HOME/.mozilla/plugins.
2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
%trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to 
another one.


and to mozilla to look at it where most of the time flash plugin is
installed.
There wasn't a Flash plugin default installation dir (or to be honest
default installation is the directory mozilla chooses when installing
packages from within mozilla itself, like for instance new themes, new locales, etc.).
In the past, maybe the "privileged" directory could be considered.
/plugins, but now netscape is dead (see "RIP Netscape"
section in http://www.mozilla.org/status/2003-07-18.html), so IMHO
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is the right place.
Bye.
Giuseppe.



Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Guillaume Rousse ha scritto:
Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :

fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ?
1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
bit official package policies.
official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to 
install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package 
for flash, right ?
In the club/power pack yes, there is for acrobat 5.0.X, flash 6 & RealPlayer 8.



2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
%trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to 
another one.
Triggering was born, because mozilla before was using
/usr/lib/mozilla-/plugins. But now all the plugins should go to 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
Bye.
Giuseppe.



Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 03/09/2003 à 10:33, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :
> > fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ?
> > 1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
> > netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
> > say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
> > bit official package policies.
> official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to 
> install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package 
> for flash, right ?

me newcomer from windows, me used to dl flash/real plugin form
adobe/Real as explain by practically all using flash/Real, me just grab
rpm from adobe/real and install it, me don't want to join club or don't
have enough money to join club.


> > 2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
> > version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
> > I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
> %trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to 
> another one.

and to mozilla to look at it where most of the time flash plugin is
installed.




Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice :
> fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ?
> 1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
> netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
> say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
> bit official package policies.
official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to 
install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package 
for flash, right ?

> 2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
> version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
> I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
%trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to 
another one.
-- 
The more general the title of a course, the less you will learn from it. 
-- Rominger's Rules for Students n°1




Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:

Le mer 03/09/2003 à 07:15, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :

FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:

Flash package is from 9.1 PowerPack. Works fine under Konqueror. Not
under Mozilla but it's because mozilla don't look for plugins in
/usr/liub/netscape and I don't want to fix this as this need to be fixed
by Mandrake
Honestly current mozilla (1.4-4mdk and ) has a %trigger script which looks
into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/* and if it found FlashPlayer
there, then it links /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so to
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so (ditto for flashplayer.xpt files).


and what about RealPlayer ? Do we have the same thing ?


And furthermore newer FlashPlayer should directly place libflashplayer.so
to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is now the default plugin repository.


fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ? 
Adobe doesn't seem listening anyone suggestion/bug report coming from Unix
community... They still produce Acrobat Reader for Linux compiled
probably on RedHat 6.0 (and of course their nppdf.so [even 5.0.8] plugin
causes the old bug of 99% CPU eating with glibc 2.3.X, better to call acroread
from mozplugger.so in this case), and probably they remained a
bit outdate on the browser side... ;-)
1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
bit official package policies.
AFAIK official Adobe installer doesn't follow this policy to, as it
install nppdf.so to /Browsers/intellinux
2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
Old triggers should remove the link to old file names and new triggers
should place those for newer names.
I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...
I was referring to FlashPlayer, Acroread, Realplayer repackaged RPMs available in 
club or packs.
The triggers Frederic placed in mozilla SPEC file are intended for those RPMs and
not public RPMs if they ever exists for some distribution.
Anyway in the thread the problem was another, i.e. why old 9.1 Flash
packages aren't working, as they should have...
Bye.
Giuseppe.



Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 03/09/2003 à 07:15, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :
> FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:
> > Flash package is from 9.1 PowerPack. Works fine under Konqueror. Not
> > under Mozilla but it's because mozilla don't look for plugins in
> > /usr/liub/netscape and I don't want to fix this as this need to be fixed
> > by Mandrake
> > 
> 
> Honestly current mozilla (1.4-4mdk and ) has a %trigger script which looks
> into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/* and if it found FlashPlayer
> there, then it links /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so to
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so (ditto for flashplayer.xpt files).

and what about RealPlayer ? Do we have the same thing ?

> And furthermore newer FlashPlayer should directly place libflashplayer.so
> to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is now the default plugin repository.

fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ? 
1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support
netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you
say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little
bit official package policies.
2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny
version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ...
I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ...





Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 11:41, _ cosmicflo a écrit :

I've installed it and flash rpm for Mdk 9.1 ( http://macromedia.mplug.org/
).
-> It crash Mozilla and Konqueror send an sig 11 on easch flash containing 
page :(


[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i flash
FlashPlayer-6.0-3mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i libstd
libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk
libstdc++5-3.3.1-2mdk
libstdc++5-devel-3.3.1-2mdk
Flash package is from 9.1 PowerPack. Works fine under Konqueror. Not
under Mozilla but it's because mozilla don't look for plugins in
/usr/liub/netscape and I don't want to fix this as this need to be fixed
by Mandrake
Honestly current mozilla (1.4-4mdk and ) has a %trigger script which looks
into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/* and if it found FlashPlayer
there, then it links /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so to
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so (ditto for flashplayer.xpt files).
And furthermore newer FlashPlayer should directly place libflashplayer.so
to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is now the default plugin repository.
Bye.
Giuseppe.





Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
FACORAT Fabrice ha scritto:
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 11:41, _ cosmicflo a écrit :

I've installed it and flash rpm for Mdk 9.1 ( http://macromedia.mplug.org/
).
-> It crash Mozilla and Konqueror send an sig 11 on easch flash containing 
page :(


[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i flash
FlashPlayer-6.0-3mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i libstd
libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk
libstdc++5-3.3.1-2mdk
libstdc++5-devel-3.3.1-2mdk
Flash package is from 9.1 PowerPack. Works fine under Konqueror. Not
under Mozilla but it's because mozilla don't look for plugins in
/usr/liub/netscape and I don't want to fix this as this need to be fixed
by Mandrake
Honestly current mozilla (1.4-4mdk and ) has a %trigger script which looks
into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/* and if it found FlashPlayer
there, then it links /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so to
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so (ditto for flashplayer.xpt files).
And furthermore newer FlashPlayer should directly place libflashplayer.so
to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is now the default plugin repository.
Bye.
Giuseppe.




Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-02 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 11:41, _ cosmicflo a écrit :
> I've installed it and flash rpm for Mdk 9.1 ( http://macromedia.mplug.org/
> ).
> -> It crash Mozilla and Konqueror send an sig 11 on easch flash containing 
> page :(

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i flash
FlashPlayer-6.0-3mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sensors]$ rpm -qa | grep -i libstd
libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk
libstdc++5-3.3.1-2mdk
libstdc++5-devel-3.3.1-2mdk

Flash package is from 9.1 PowerPack. Works fine under Konqueror. Not
under Mozilla but it's because mozilla don't look for plugins in
/usr/liub/netscape and I don't want to fix this as this need to be fixed
by Mandrake




Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-02 Thread _ cosmicflo
I've installed it and flash rpm for Mdk 9.1 ( http://macromedia.mplug.org/ 
).
-> It crash Mozilla and Konqueror send an sig 11 on easch flash containing 
page :(


From: FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cooker ML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Cooker] flash player
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 13:30:17 +
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 10:57, _ cosmicflo a écrit :
> Is there a flash player compatible with incoming Mdk 9.2 ?
>
> Thanks
Just need to install libstdc++2.10

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Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-02 Thread Buchan Milne
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_ cosmicflo wrote:
> Is there a flash player compatible with incoming Mdk 9.2 ?

swfplay
;-)

(or do you mean the proprietary application? File a bug report with them
and they can fix it)

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Re: [Cooker] flash player

2003-09-02 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 10:57, _ cosmicflo a écrit :
> Is there a flash player compatible with incoming Mdk 9.2 ?
> 
> Thanks

Just need to install libstdc++2.10

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[Cooker] flash player

2003-09-02 Thread _ cosmicflo
Is there a flash player compatible with incoming Mdk 9.2 ?

Thanks

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Re: [Cooker] Flash Player

2001-05-01 Thread Simon Hargreaves

David BAUDENS wrote:

> Simon Hargreaves écrivit :
>
> > Mandrake 8.0 doesn't come with libflashplayer.
>
> [baudens@amidala ~]$ urpmf libflashplayer
> netscape-plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
> [baudens@amidala ~]$

Sorry not completely up to scratch on the rpm commands yet.
It didn't seem to install netscape-plugins by default when it installed
netscape though.

Simon...





Re: [Cooker] Flash Player

2001-04-30 Thread David BAUDENS

Simon Hargreaves écrivit :

> Mandrake 8.0 doesn't come with libflashplayer.

[baudens@amidala ~]$ urpmf libflashplayer
netscape-plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[baudens@amidala ~]$




[Cooker] Flash Player

2001-04-30 Thread Simon Hargreaves

Mandrake 8.0 doesn't come with libflashplayer.

Is there a problem (license) with including it?


Simon...