Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:17:22 +0200, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote: I don't plan to split gail more : gail is not yet API/ABI frozen but it will be frozen for GNOME 2 release.. So, it won't add anything good to split gail now.. I'll wait for gail 1.0 and after, I'll see if we really need to slip it.. In the mean time... it's cooker :)) Heh heh, this starts to be the magical reason for every problem in the world :) But I think it start to be pressing now. If gail doesn't freeze anytime soon, then you'll receive more and more complaints whenever new releases are done... gail will be freezed for GNOME 2.0 release since it is part of the platform.. Besides, I really think it's reasonable to get at least libgail.so and libferret.so splitted out, since: 1. They are there since day one 2. They are moved only once, from /usr/lib to /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/something - So they are unlikely to move or change again. But we can't be sure using new GTK input libs (libferret and libgail) with old libgailutils will work.. So, for the moment, nothing changes until gail is frozen.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote: gail will be freezed for GNOME 2.0 release since it is part of the platform.. Oh, I have thought that it is similar to libgda etc -- won't freeze. If it's freezing like other components do, then it's worthy to wait. Then no more fix is necessary :) Besides, I really think it's reasonable to get at least libgail.so and libferret.so splitted out, since: [.] But we can't be sure using new GTK input libs (libferret and libgail) with old libgailutils will work.. Actually very likely to break (I have tried it before). Sounds like this boils down to packaging question: should non-versioned libraries/modules bundled with the main library as one package, or split it out? -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc
Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:25:14 +0200, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote: gail will be freezed for GNOME 2.0 release since it is part of the platform.. Oh, I have thought that it is similar to libgda etc -- won't freeze. If it's freezing like other components do, then it's worthy to wait. Then no more fix is necessary :) Yep :)) for info, gail is needed for accessibility.. Besides, I really think it's reasonable to get at least libgail.so and libferret.so splitted out, since: [.] But we can't be sure using new GTK input libs (libferret and libgail) with old libgailutils will work.. Actually very likely to break (I have tried it before). Sounds like this boils down to packaging question: should non-versioned libraries/modules bundled with the main library as one package, or split it out? Good question but I don't have an answer :) -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote: I don't plan to split gail more : gail is not yet API/ABI frozen but it will be frozen for GNOME 2 release.. So, it won't add anything good to split gail now.. I'll wait for gail 1.0 and after, I'll see if we really need to slip it.. In the mean time... it's cooker :)) Heh heh, this starts to be the magical reason for every problem in the world :) But I think it start to be pressing now. If gail doesn't freeze anytime soon, then you'll receive more and more complaints whenever new releases are done... Besides, I really think it's reasonable to get at least libgail.so and libferret.so splitted out, since: 1. They are there since day one 2. They are moved only once, from /usr/lib to /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/something - So they are unlikely to move or change again. -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc
Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 02:46:16 +0200, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so from install of
libgail13-0.13-1mdk conflicts with file from package
libgail11-0.11-1mdk
fcrozat, probably it's appropriate to split out
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/lib{ferret,gail}.so into another subpackage
(something like gail or libgail-modules)?
Then make libgail13 Requires: libgail-modules etc.?
I don't plan to split gail more : gail is not yet API/ABI frozen but it
will be frozen for GNOME 2 release.. So, it won't add anything good to
split gail now.. I'll wait for gail 1.0 and after, I'll see if we really
need to slip it..
In the mean time... it's cooker :))
--
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
grip-3.0.0-1mdk.i586 gnome-media-1.520.0-1mdk.i586 libeel2_1-1.1.10-1mdk.i586 All the above require libgail13-0.13-1 file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so from install of libgail13-0.13-1mdk conflicts with file from package libgail11-0.11-1mdk [root@localhost charles]# rpm -e libgail11 error: removing these packages would break dependencies: libgailutil.so.11 is needed by gnome-media-1.287.113-1mdk [root@localhost charles]# rpm -e gnome-media error: removing these packages would break dependencies: gnome-media is needed by gnome-applets-1.98.0-2mdk gnome-media is needed by gnome-control-center-1.99.6-1mdk [root@localhost charles]# rpm -e --nodeps gnome-media [root@localhost charles]# rpm -e libgail11 Then install grip-3.0.0-1mdk.i586 gnome-media-1.520.0-1mdk.i586 libeel2_1-1.1.10-1mdk.i586 libgail13-0.13-1 with no objections. Seems to be a really round-about way to have to do things. Charles
Re: [Cooker] libgail13-0.13-1mdk
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so from install of
libgail13-0.13-1mdk conflicts with file from package libgail11-0.11-1mdk
fcrozat, probably it's appropriate to split out
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/lib{ferret,gail}.so into
another subpackage (something like gail or libgail-modules)?
Then make libgail13 Requires: libgail-modules etc.?
--
Abel Cheung
GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc
