[Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

rcc wrote:
 
 David D. Huff Jr. wrote:
 
  Xanadu wrote:
 
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:34:18 -0500, David D. Huff Jr. wrote:
 
   After all these releases, why did Mandrake change their style of
boot
   screen?
  
   The new one looks terrible, it reminds me of an 8 bit dos
application
   booting on an 8088 or 8086.
  
   If you read the display quickly it would be easy to imagine you
were
   booting into Madefordos v. 81.0 !! :((
 
  You're saying the dumb things where unreadable text is sitting
under the
  MDK logo?  If so I freakin' hated it myself.  Don't use it.  I
still use
  Aurora, but I use:
 
  Aurora-Monitor-Traditional-WsLib-8.2-18mdk
 
  Install that one.  It;'s more like the mormal Linux bootup where it
shows
  each service individlay with a OK or FAILED status.  Much nicer...
 
  P.S.
  I forget if you have to do this after installing that package but:
 
  ln -s /lib/aurora/Monitors/Traditional-WsLib /etc/aurora/Monitor
 
  That makes it work.  :-)
 
  Actually I was speaking of the initial install boot, if you think
the
  lilo or grub standard display is pitiful, you'll absolutely want to
barf
  when you boot the Mandrake 8.2 beta1 install disk.
 
 you mean that whitish box with that greyish font that reminds one of
C64
 and Atari800 times?
 
 -- rcc
Ahh, yup.




RE: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

And reply to this is even more amusing :-)

===

Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
the 
OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
to 
get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
in 
front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
soft 
loaded from tapes.

Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
default boot timeout to 10s?

-- rcc




RE: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Fox

I hate to say it (as much as I LOVE Mandrake) but there is some truth
here.  Actually, I find the SuSE boot screen one of the best looking . .
(please don't flame!) - I still use Mandrake solely!

It's actually a matter of taste - but most agree the existingboot screen
in Mandrake B2 is not the best!

Cheers!



On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 14:24, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 And reply to this is even more amusing :-)
 
 ===
 
 Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
 the 
 OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
 transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
 to 
 get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
 in 
 front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
 soft 
 loaded from tapes.
 
 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?
 
 -- rcc
 






Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?

No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Pierre Fortin

On 30 Jan 2002 14:54:49 +0100
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended
  default boot timeout to 10s?
 
 No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
 slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.

Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?

Just trying to help,
Pierre




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes:

 I hate to say it (as much as I LOVE Mandrake) but there is some truth
 here.  Actually, I find the SuSE boot screen one of the best looking . .
 (please don't flame!) - I still use Mandrake solely!

 It's actually a matter of taste - but most agree the existingboot screen
 in Mandrake B2 is not the best!

I just integrtated a new boot based on the implementation of Suse,
stay tunned 8-).

-- 
http://www.chmouel.org/




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
  slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.
 
 Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
 include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?

Later than what ? The timer starts when lilo is ready to accept
keys, it could hardly start later on.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And reply to this is even more amusing :-)
 
 ===
 
 Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
 the 
 OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
 transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
 to 
 get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
 in 
 front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
 soft 
 loaded from tapes.
 
 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?

Our graphist will appreciate :-)

If you have very complex pictures to display, you can use latest lilo which
contains a quite small pieces of SuSe patch to extend message file to 512Kb.

Enjoy, François.




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Pierre Fortin

On 30 Jan 2002 17:46:10 +0100
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
   slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.
  
  Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
  include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?
 
 Later than what ? The timer starts when lilo is ready to accept
 keys, it could hardly start later on.

OK...  I get it...  then why not start accepting keystrokes as soon as the
MBR is read and make the timer even longer...  :^)  :^)

My point was related to extending an existing timer to handle something
which problably should not be within the timed period in the first place.

Pierre






Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Neuromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does that mean we can have something like this now?
 http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo/penguins.html

No this is lilo stuff, remember i take care of kernel thingies.

-- 
http://www.chmouel.org/