Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread John Keller
Buchan Milne wrote:
 For Mandrake theme, set splash=silent in your append line for your
 default boot image, or pass splash=silent from the bootloader prompt.

Yup, I double-checked before typing this (though that doesn't rule out the
possibility that I'm simply thick). I thought it curious that it needed to
be my *default* boot image, so I changed things around. Still no good.

I'm off to sleep. Maybe it'll magically fix itself overnight (though I doubt
it :).

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote:

 That didn't worked here. I had the boring v2 like bootsplash that is too 
 in 9.1.  I saw it the first time after i changed it with the scripts 
 provided by bootsplash-themes. 
 
 Ah before i forget, the progressbar of enterprise-spot isn't working in 
 silent mode, but works in verbose. Will file a bug if i find the time. 

Works for me in both. But the Linux theme looks like the 9.1 theme, I 
was expecting a penguin.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Olivier Blin
 If you do not want verbose output add 'quiet' to your lilo append

It would be better with splash=silent ;-)
Have a look here :
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootSplashHowTo

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 22:15, John Keller wrote:
  This is not a consequence of any of the mentioned pkgs nor is it a
  cooker issue.
 
  If you do not want verbose output add 'quiet' to your lilo append
 
 Thanks, but I think you misunderstood me.
 
 If you take a look at the selections of screens (for example, at
 http://www.bfcomputerconsulting.com/mandrake/mandrake_bootsplash.html),
 you'll see that there are two types. One displays text, the other doesn't.
 
 The no-text mode is triggered with a splash=silent in the lilo append.
 I've always had this, and it's in fact included by default with the install.
 This is what I as referring to by silent and verbose.
 
 Since the bootsplash seems to be doing tricks with framebuffers or something
 like it, I figured that there may be a connection with my video -- 
 especially since it's a laptop, and may be shortchanged in VRAM (I can do
 1024x768x24 bits, but is there enough for two buffers?).
 
 I'd seen at least one post (lost in a long thread) mentioning that the
 silent mode didn't work for him. Perhaps there's a common cause, I don't
 know. Hopefully, there's enough time before release to spot the cause and
 maybe fix it.

Probably obvious, but have you actually done anything to regenerate your
initrd since setting up for a silent bootsplash? If the image isn't
actually in the initrd you're never gonna see it...
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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Olivier Blin
 Works for me in both. But the Linux theme looks like the 9.1 theme,
 I was expecting a penguin.

oups, fixing ...
dunno what happened :/

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Olivier Blin
 Ah before i forget, the progressbar of enterprise-spot isn't working
 in silent mode, but works in verbose. Will file a bug if i find the
 time. 

Hi

Do you use enterprise-spot with 800x600 framebuffer ?
It should work is enterprise theme works, it's basically the same config
file.

Regards

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread John Keller
Adam Williamson wrote:
 Probably obvious, but have you actually done anything to regenerate your
 initrd since setting up for a silent bootsplash? If the image isn't
 actually in the initrd you're never gonna see it...

Yup. Thanks for checking, since there's sometimes the obvious thing that is
the cause.

I modify /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash, exec /usr/share/loader/make-initrd, exec
/sbin/lilo, reboot.

I've tried make-initrd with nothing, -n (both are effectively the same), and
explicitly specifying the version. No luck.

Sigh. At least the verbose screen looks pretty cool.

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread John Keller
Olivier Blin wrote:
  Works for me in both. But the Linux theme looks like the 9.1 theme,
  I was expecting a penguin.

 oups, fixing ...
 dunno what happened :/

Hi, Oliver.

Would you be willing to consider changing one other thing as well?

In all of the new themes, the verbose bootsplash is used for the screen in
virtual console 1; none of the other consoles have any image. However, the
Linux theme has a nice penguin on the first 4 of the 6 (and the Mandrake one
has 9.2 on the same consoles) and allows use of the full screen.

In some cases, the space allowed by the verbose bootsplash is far too
cramped to use as a console (especially if you work in 1024x768 or higher).
So you effectively lose a console -- and the main one, at that. Would you
consider instead using a dark image in the background (like Tux or the 9.2
are used), and allow the full screen to be used instead of a restricted
space?

Thanks for the time in packaging all of these!

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Olivier Blin
 Hi, Oliver.
 
 Would you be willing to consider changing one other thing as well?

Hi

Suggestions are welcome :-)

 In some cases, the space allowed by the verbose bootsplash is far too
 cramped to use as a console (especially if you work in 1024x768 or
 higher). So you effectively lose a console -- and the main one, at
 that. Would you consider instead using a dark image in the background
 (like Tux or the 9.2 are used), and allow the full screen to be used
 instead of a restricted space?

I don't know what do to, some people may appreciate the console
background as it is now, if you really don't want this background, set
LOGO_CONSOLE=no in /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash.
I'll play with LOGO_CONSOLE=yes/vt/theme and try to find a solution.

Regards

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 30. August 2003 01:42 schrieb Olivier Blin:
  Ah before i forget, the progressbar of enterprise-spot isn't
  working in silent mode, but works in verbose. Will file a bug if i
  find the time.

 Hi

 Do you use enterprise-spot with 800x600 framebuffer ?

I have vga=788, so i guess, yes. 

 It should work is enterprise theme works, it's basically the same
 config file.

I will recheck maybe with 789 ? I have a white bar and nothing thats 
moving, if i press Esc then in Verbose mode the progressbar works. 

Steffen





[Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread John Keller
[mail isn't getting through to the list, yet again...]

I think I saw someone else mention this a while back, but I thought I'd try
and stir things up again.

I've never been able to get the silent version of the bootsplashes. This has
been the case ever since the first trials with the new bootsplash, but I
held off saying anything until now because I thought that maybe something
was unfinished.

I have a clean install of RC2, updated to current cooker, and I
double-checked that I've got the correct settings. All the same, I always
get the verbose mode when I boot and shut down, no matter which bootsplash I
use.

Does anyone else see this? Is this a problem with a lack of (video) RAM, or
something else?

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:48:25 +0200
John Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone else see this? Is this a problem with a lack of (video)
 RAM, or something else?

This is not a consequence of any of the mentioned pkgs nor is it a
cooker issue.

If you do not want verbose output add 'quiet' to your lilo append


Charles



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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 21:48 schrieb John Keller:
 [mail isn't getting through to the list, yet again...]

 I think I saw someone else mention this a while back, but I thought
 I'd try and stir things up again.

 I've never been able to get the silent version of the bootsplashes.
 This has been the case ever since the first trials with the new
 bootsplash, but I held off saying anything until now because I
 thought that maybe something was unfinished.

 I have a clean install of RC2, updated to current cooker, and I
 double-checked that I've got the correct settings. All the same, I
 always get the verbose mode when I boot and shut down, no matter
 which bootsplash I use.

 Does anyone else see this? Is this a problem with a lack of (video)
 RAM, or something else?

 - John

For me the silent mode only showed up, once i had installed 
bootsplash-thmes from contrib and changed the theme. After that it 
worked. And it looked awesome :D

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread John Keller
 This is not a consequence of any of the mentioned pkgs nor is it a
 cooker issue.

 If you do not want verbose output add 'quiet' to your lilo append

Thanks, but I think you misunderstood me.

If you take a look at the selections of screens (for example, at
http://www.bfcomputerconsulting.com/mandrake/mandrake_bootsplash.html),
you'll see that there are two types. One displays text, the other doesn't.

The no-text mode is triggered with a splash=silent in the lilo append.
I've always had this, and it's in fact included by default with the install.
This is what I as referring to by silent and verbose.

Since the bootsplash seems to be doing tricks with framebuffers or something
like it, I figured that there may be a connection with my video -- 
especially since it's a laptop, and may be shortchanged in VRAM (I can do
1024x768x24 bits, but is there enough for two buffers?).

I'd seen at least one post (lost in a long thread) mentioning that the
silent mode didn't work for him. Perhaps there's a common cause, I don't
know. Hopefully, there's enough time before release to spot the cause and
maybe fix it.

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread John Keller
Steffen Barszus wrote:
 For me the silent mode only showed up, once i had installed
 bootsplash-thmes from contrib and changed the theme. After that it
 worked. And it looked awesome :D

Yeah, I had cycled through almost all of the contrib themes before my first
mailing. No luck.

I'm jealous, but I'm glad it worked for someone.

- John




Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote:

 Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 21:48 schrieb John Keller:
  [mail isn't getting through to the list, yet again...]
 
  I think I saw someone else mention this a while back, but I thought
  I'd try and stir things up again.
 
  I've never been able to get the silent version of the bootsplashes.
  This has been the case ever since the first trials with the new
  bootsplash, but I held off saying anything until now because I
  thought that maybe something was unfinished.
 
  I have a clean install of RC2, updated to current cooker, and I
  double-checked that I've got the correct settings. All the same, I
  always get the verbose mode when I boot and shut down, no matter
  which bootsplash I use.
 
  Does anyone else see this? Is this a problem with a lack of (video)
  RAM, or something else?
 
  - John
 
 For me the silent mode only showed up, once i had installed 
 bootsplash-thmes from contrib and changed the theme. After that it 
 worked. And it looked awesome :D
 

For Mandrake theme, set splash=silent in your append line for your 
default boot image, or pass splash=silent from the bootloader prompt.

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Re: [Cooker] resend: no silent bootsplash

2003-08-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 30. August 2003 00:09 schrieb Buchan Milne:
 On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote:
  Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 21:48 schrieb John Keller:
   matter which bootsplash I use.
  
   Does anyone else see this? Is this a problem with a lack of
   (video) RAM, or something else?
  
   - John
 
  For me the silent mode only showed up, once i had installed
  bootsplash-thmes from contrib and changed the theme. After that it
  worked. And it looked awesome :D

 For Mandrake theme, set splash=silent in your append line for your
 default boot image, or pass splash=silent from the bootloader prompt.

That didn't worked here. I had the boring v2 like bootsplash that is too 
in 9.1.  I saw it the first time after i changed it with the scripts 
provided by bootsplash-themes. 

Ah before i forget, the progressbar of enterprise-spot isn't working in 
silent mode, but works in verbose. Will file a bug if i find the time. 

Steffen