Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
Claudio wrote: Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? Thanks, C. I don't know, but as I have downloaded and burnt FREQ 3 ISOs last week, such a quick release of 8.1 beta doesn't make me happy at all. I don't know if Mandrake coordinators are lucky enough to see CDRs grow on trees, but I'm not. -- Franck Aniere Ingenieur Developpements UNIX
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
Have you tried CD-RW supports? I am converted to these since 6 months, no more tons of CDs in my desk /\ | José Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | TEKLYNX International http://www.teklynx.com | \/ Franck Aniere aniere@genoscoTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pe.cns.fr cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta? aniere@genoscop e.cns.fr 20/08/2001 10:08 Please respond to cooker Claudio wrote: Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? Thanks, C. I don't know, but as I have downloaded and burnt FREQ 3 ISOs last week, such a quick release of 8.1 beta doesn't make me happy at all. I don't know if Mandrake coordinators are lucky enough to see CDRs grow on trees, but I'm not. -- Franck Aniere Ingenieur Developpements UNIX
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried CD-RW supports? I am converted to these since 6 months, no more tons of CDs in my desk I use them a lot for other purpose. I keep versions on regular CDs, just to have them in case of need later. In fact, I think that Mandrake should not have released freq3 and 8.1 beta 1 so near, or they could at least have warned people before. I know someone who broke his system with freq3 and spent hours to make it work again, and he's very angry too because he would have prefered to wait for 8.1 beta. -- Franck Aniere Ingenieur Developpements UNIX
RE: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
In fact, I think that Mandrake should not have released freq3 and 8.1 beta 1 so near, or they could at least have warned people before. I know someone who broke his system with freq3 and spent hours to make it work again, and he's very angry too because he would have prefered to wait for 8.1 beta. I agree and disagree. They should not release Freq3 because the system was in awful shape at this moment. Actually, they probably should wait with beta1 until RPM and rpmdrake problems are resolved (RPM in any case). OTOH anybody testing snapshots should be prepared to deal with broken system. You get what you've asked for :-) -andrej
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: I agree and disagree. They should not release Freq3 because the system was in awful shape at this moment. Actually, they probably should wait with beta1 until RPM and rpmdrake problems are resolved (RPM in any case). OTOH anybody testing snapshots should be prepared to deal with broken system. You get what you've asked for :-) Yes and no...I know that Freq is not a production distribution, but I think that in the mind of all people knowing about Mandrake distributions the fact that Mandrake releases a new Freq means that there is no new production version for now. And suddenly, coming from nowhere, here is 8.1 beta. I think that releasing freq 3 just before 8.1 beta OR releasing 8.1 beta Freq 3 whithout warning is a big mistake... -- Franck Aniere Ingenieur Developpements UNIX
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
On Aug 20 2001, 14:20 +, Franck Aniere wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried CD-RW supports? I am converted to these since 6 months, no more tons of CDs in my desk I use them a lot for other purpose. I keep versions on regular CDs, just to have them in case of need later. In fact, I think that Mandrake should not have released freq3 and 8.1 beta 1 so near, or they could at least have warned people before. I know someone who broke his system with freq3 and spent hours to make it work again, and he's very angry too because he would have prefered to wait for 8.1 beta. -- Franck Aniere Ingenieur Developpements UNIX ---end quoted text--- Sorry to bug in here, but that *has* been mentioned on MandrakeForum in a story about the name of the next release. I know that because I wrote that story myself ;-). And that story was posted on Sunday *before* Freq's been announced. But I've to admit that three major announcements in one week is a bit of a drag ... A+ tom -- Tom Berger, Maintainer of MandrakeUser.Org, General Nuisance Since 1999 GPG-ID: 0x6AD65877 http://germany.keyserver.net/ Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it a bad sign if you spend the day wondering why there are no laws against what you do for a living? (Dilbert)
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In fact, I think that Mandrake should not have released freq3 and 8.1 beta 1 so near, or they could at least have warned people before. I know someone who broke his system with freq3 and spent hours to make it work again, and he's very angry too because he would have prefered to wait for 8.1 beta. I agree and disagree. They should not release Freq3 because the system was in awful shape at this moment. Actually, they probably should wait with beta1 until RPM and rpmdrake problems are resolved (RPM in any case). OTOH anybody testing snapshots should be prepared to deal with broken system. You get what you've asked for :-) Freq is *not* cooker. It's mostly 8.0 based
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried CD-RW supports? I am converted to these since 6 months, no more tons of CDs in my desk there's a big trap ahead, which is that most CD-RWs cannot be reliably read by CD-ROM drives. The industry is a wakeup to this problem and the Society for Optical Recording has since 1998 issued a MultiRead logo as certification that the drive willl read CD-ROMs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs. However there are plenty of drives being sold that do not bear this logo - a big beware! All drives that may have to read CD-RWs MUST bear the MultiRead logo. Re-equip time for most of us (yet again with the chequered histoiry of CD-ROMs). -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
P == Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P ... I couldn't agree more. I also only have a 56k P dialup and am never likely to have a faster connection, so I'm P in the same boat as you - two to three cookers rsync'd a week P at best. Add my +1 to this proposal --- it's the main (selfish) reason I wanted to see the Friday Fish Fry weekly cooker snapshot; within a week, I just might get the chance to rsync my cooker before it changes. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 T(C)Inc Business Innovations through Open Source http://www.teledyn.com what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 10 hours 35 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. nope. Cooker has not been forked out of 8.1 yet. so cooker is the way to heaven^H^H^H^H^H^H8.1
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
On Saturday 18 August 2001 16:38, Pixel wrote: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. nope. Cooker has not been forked out of 8.1 yet. so cooker is the way to heaven^H^H^H^H^H^H8.1 OK, so I will install Cooker till new advise! ;o) C. -- Claudio Panichi SysAdmin at Dept. of Physics Tor Vergata University and INFN - Sec. Roma II Remote System is: LINUX Mandrake release 8.1 (Cooker)
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:38:04 +0200 (CEST) Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. nope. Cooker has not been forked out of 8.1 yet. so cooker is the way to heaven^H^H^H^H^H^H8.1 Just a suggestion here. I'd really love to test 8.1 but with a 56k dialup I can't even finish syncing cooker every night much less download a couple of iso's. If there's any way a mirror could be put up with the 8.1 distro in it (not just the iso's) before the official release, then people in my situation could copy their existing cooker to another directory on their machine and sync that with the mirror. If not, then I have to wait until the official release of 8.1 and then the mirrors should have it available to sync with. I just don't like waiting when I could contribute to debugging. :-( -- Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] It said use windows 95 or better so I loaded linux! In a world without walls or fences who needs windows or gates?
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
8/18/01 11:33:46 AM, Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People have been known to burn and mail beta's around here... On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:38:04 +0200 (CEST) Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. nope. Cooker has not been forked out of 8.1 yet. so cooker is the way to heaven^H^H^H^H^H^H8.1 Just a suggestion here. I'd really love to test 8.1 but with a 56k dialup I can't even finish syncing cooker every night much less download a couple of iso's. If there's any way a mirror could be put up with the 8.1 distro in it (not just the iso's) before the official release, then people in my situation could copy their existing cooker to another directory on their machine and sync that with the mirror. If not, then I have to wait until the official release of 8.1 and then the mirrors should have it available to sync with. I just don't like waiting when I could contribute to debugging. :-( -- Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] It said use windows 95 or better so I loaded linux! In a world without walls or fences who needs windows or gates? -m-
Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.1beta?
On Saturday 18 August 2001 19:33, Kelley Terry wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:38:04 +0200 (CEST) Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sprach »Claudio« am 2001-08-18 um 13:35:06 +0200 : Just a simple question: is Cooker's tree exactly the next 8.1? I mean: if I install Cooker, am I testing for 8.1 or something else? You're testing 8.2 with Cooker. If you want to test 8.1, install 8.1 Beta. nope. Cooker has not been forked out of 8.1 yet. so cooker is the way to heaven^H^H^H^H^H^H8.1 Just a suggestion here. I'd really love to test 8.1 but with a 56k dialup I can't even finish syncing cooker every night much less download a couple of iso's. If there's any way a mirror could be put up with the 8.1 distro in it (not just the iso's) before the official release, then people in my situation could copy their existing cooker to another directory on their machine and sync that with the mirror. If not, then I have to wait until the official release of 8.1 and then the mirrors should have it available to sync with. I just don't like waiting when I could contribute to debugging. :-( Good point. I couldn't agree more. I also only have a 56k dialup and am never likely to have a faster connection, so I'm in the same boat as you - two to three cookers rsync'd a week at best. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586, kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, XFree86 4.0.3, patch level 11mdk, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1. Uptime 3 days 3 hours 39 minutes
