Buchan,
Actually we are thinking almost the same. BTW I didn't know that the
XFree drivers run for some Geforce, in this case could be a good idea
that installation of the 3 basic cds (open source cds) should include
information for the user about what drivers to select and about the
possibility to obtain the nvidia drivers being member of the club or
buying a pack.
BTW I have the NVIDIA rpms for rc2, if you like the NVIDIA-kernel I
could send the rpm to you this afternoon (now 12:29 in Spain I am at
work and the rpms are in my home computer.
Still the tuxracer free crash X in some of the racers (Who says the
penguins can't fly) but the whole commercial runs fine. Perhaps is a bug
of the last release; I will see if the release is the same that was
comming with 9.0 and if not I will install that of 9.0 to test it.
Now I am going to give a class.
See you later
Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia
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Remitente: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: Miércoles, Marzo 5, 2003 11:54 am
Asunto: Re: [Cooker] RC2, first impression (video card problems)
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N Smethurst wrote:
Le Mercredi 5 Mars 2003 01:26, jokerman64 a écrit :
If these useless drivers were not included, the user would have
to use
VESA.
That is the whole point of not including them until they work. After
that,
it would be up to the user whether to install the nvidia binary
drivers or
not.
But they work great for GeForce2/3 ... so it would be better to use nv
on them and only vesa on GeForce4.
However, considering the agony I experienced of staring at a monitor
running
at some horrible refresh rate, I would suggest that Mandrake try to
assist
users with nvidia cards (and users of the the newer ATI cards and
anyother
cards) to download the binary drivers and install them correctly.
They do
not have to be included in the distribution, but at least the
distribution
could provide some form of help (even if it is just a little bit of
information and a link or two to the relevant downloads/tutorials
on the
web).
AFAIK, Mandrake Club members, if they setup the urpmi club source with
drakfw should be able to just rerun XFdrake. If not, then at most all
the will need to do is install NVIDIA_GLX and NVIDIA_kernel from the
club, and then run XFdrake.
Go and look at the most voted rpm in the club. Users want help
installing these drivers, so if they cannot be included in the
distro due to
licencing
problems, at least users should be helped to download them and
install them, instead of providing them with drivers that are not
yet finished
and
consequently don't work properly.
Also remember that the NVidia drivers are included on all commercial
sets, and work out-the-box.
For those who really don't want to give Mandrakesoft any financial
contribution until their display card works, I may update
http://ranger.dnsalias.com/nvidia_me for 9.1. Then again I may not.
Users paid NVidia good money for a card like a GeForce4Ti. NVidia
shouldbe the one ensuring their hardware is well supported for
their users.
If you have paid Mandrakesoft for the distro (either via club or
buyinga set), setup is trivial. If not, you need to consider
whether you want
to support proprietary softare (like the NVidia drivers) with your
money(by buying NVidia cards), or whether you want to support free
software(via Mandrakesoft).
It's up to users, Mandrakesoft has done more than their part.
Buchan
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