Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-27 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2003 14:12 schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau:
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> >
> > Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive
> > and have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a
> > kernel
>
> *NO*! It seems that "normal" kernel is even stronger than BOOT
> (install) kernel: some ppl have had the LG cdrom fried at boot of
> the normal kernel.

Thanks :)

> Please wait for the update kernel, or your drive will be damaged.

My drive is allready returned and I'm proud to be LG free ;) I asked for 
a friend. 

Thanks for your answer

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-27 Thread Claudio

> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>> > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>> > >
>>
>>
>> Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and
>>  have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel
>>
>
> *NO*! It seems that "normal" kernel is even stronger than BOOT
> (install) kernel: some ppl have had the LG cdrom fried at boot of
> the normal kernel.
>
> Please wait for the update kernel, or your drive will be damaged.

I've fried 2 LG 52x last week  :°°





Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> > >
> 
> 
> Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and 
> have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel 

*NO*! It seems that "normal" kernel is even stronger than BOOT
(install) kernel: some ppl have had the LG cdrom fried at boot of
the normal kernel.

Please wait for the update kernel, or your drive will be damaged.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread WAErola
I have: 
HL-DT-ST GCE-8320B 32x 10x 40x
PC266 M810L MB / Socket A / AMD Athalon 1GHz
Mandrake 9.2

No problems with reading and writing CDs


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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread danny
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Élie Charest wrote:

> Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
> > > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
> > > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
> > > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
> > > > you know. How do I find the firmware version?
> > >
> > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
> > > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
> > > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.
> >
> > perhaps hdparm -i gives it?
> 
> Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm".
> 
i assume it is not really a scsi device? if you use ide-scsi use the hd? 
identifier instead of the scsi device node (/dev/hdb or such).



d.

> 




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Élie Charest
Le 25 Octobre 2003 08:15, Élie Charest a écrit :
> Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
> > > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
> > > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
> > > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
> > > > you know. How do I find the firmware version?
> > >
> > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
> > > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
> > > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.
> >
> > perhaps hdparm -i gives it?
>
> Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm".

Uh, wait, it DOES work. I had to do "hdparm -i /dev/hdb" instead of "hdparm -i 
/dev/scd0". What an idiot...

Okay, my firmware on my LG CD-RW CED-8080B is 1.06 (and it's still working 
fine).

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Élie Charest
Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
> > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
> > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
> > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
> > > you know. How do I find the firmware version?
> >
> > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
> > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
> > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.
>
> perhaps hdparm -i gives it?

Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm".

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003 13:52 schrieb Greg Meyer:
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:42 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> >
> > Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive
> > and have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a
> > kernel update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine
> > tomorrow and he as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another
> > drive.
>
> It looks to me like if you try to use the drive, whether installing
> with it or using it later, you will fry it.   If you don't need it,
> maybe you should disconnect it until the update comes.

Ok thanks. I will take this advice, maybe we wait until the new kernel 
is out. Since we know now the reason of it, it shouldn't take to long. 
I for myself doesn't have that problem anymore, i have my cash back for 
my fried drive and will stay away from LG from now on. 

Thanks

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:42 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>
> Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and
> have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel
> update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine tomorrow and he
> as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another drive.
>
It looks to me like if you try to use the drive, whether installing with it or 
using it later, you will fry it.   If you don't need it, maybe you should 
disconnect it until the update comes.
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Steffen Barszus
> On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> >


Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and 
have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel 
update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine tomorrow and he 
as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another drive.

Greets

Steffen






Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread danny
On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
> > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
> > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
> > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
> > you know. How do I find the firmware version?
> 
> If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
> drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
> there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.

perhaps hdparm -i gives it?

d.


> 
> 




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread Vedran Ljubovic

--- Élie Charest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le 24 Octobre 2003 11:04, Guillaume Cottenceau a
> écrit :
> > Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Mine has a 1.01 firmware
> >
> > Very interesting then.
> >
> > Listing all firmware versions needed will be long
> though :/.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but how does one go about
> determining the firmware 
> version of a CD/CD-RW drive?

Found it! You can determine your firmware version
during boot if you enable drive autodetection in BIOS.

My GCE-8400B is firmware v1.02



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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-25 Thread danny
On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Mine has a 1.01 firmware
> 
> Very interesting then.
> 
> Listing all firmware versions needed will be long though :/.

Régis can try downgrading firmware and try to fry his drive?


d.

> 
> 




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread illogic-al
On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>
> My updated list:
>
> fried:
> CRD-8322B
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CDR-8400B(mi)
> CRD-8400C
> COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> GCR-8523B
> LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
>
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
> LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)
nother one from mub
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Élie Charest
Le 24 Octobre 2003 11:04, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Mine has a 1.01 firmware
>
> Very interesting then.
>
> Listing all firmware versions needed will be long though :/.

Pardon my ignorance, but how does one go about determining the firmware 
version of a CD/CD-RW drive?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
> taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
> installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
> though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
> you know. How do I find the firmware version?

If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Vedran Ljubovic

I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
you know. How do I find the firmware version?

--- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG
> CRD-84xx drives.
> 
> My updated list:
> 
> fried:
> CRD-8322B
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CDR-8400B(mi)
> CRD-8400C
> COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> GCR-8523B
> LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
> 
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS
> A7N8X-Deluxe)
> LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)
> 
> -- 
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> http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
> 

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread illogic-al
On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>
> My updated list:
>
> fried:
> CRD-8322B
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CDR-8400B(mi)
> CRD-8400C
> COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> GCR-8523B
> LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
>
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
> LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mine has a 1.01 firmware

Very interesting then.

Listing all firmware versions needed will be long though :/.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Régis Wira
Mine has a 1.01 firmware

Le ven 24/10/2003 à 16:30, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > My LG drive is a DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM Combo drive (GCC 4480B, firmware 
> > 1.00), so it aren't only cdrom drives, but also burner. 
> 
> Ouch!
> 
> Regis says in a previous mail that the following works:
> 
> HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5)
> 
> It seems to be exactly the same as yours! :/
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Steffen Barszus
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > My LG drive is a DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM Combo drive (GCC 4480B, firmware 
> > 1.00), so it aren't only cdrom drives, but also burner. 
> 
> Ouch!
> 
> Regis says in a previous mail that the following works:
> 
> HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5)
> 
> It seems to be exactly the same as yours! :/

Yep it was reported twice as working (Asus A7V8X and the above). I have
booted from it and immediatly done a restart afterwards. Now it can't read any
CDs anymore. Had no problems before and since that drive is just a few weeks
old i don't think it has reached its end of life point. With my TEAC 512EB all
is fine. Will return the drive tomorrow and go for an NEC1300A or the like.
And another note: Flashing the drive does not recover it from the damage, have
tested it just an hour ago. 

Greets

Steffen

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My LG drive is a DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM Combo drive (GCC 4480B, firmware 
> 1.00), so it aren't only cdrom drives, but also burner. 

Ouch!

Regis says in a previous mail that the following works:

HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5)

It seems to be exactly the same as yours! :/

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > CDR-8400B(mi)
> => ^^
> Is this a typo?

Probably - but not for me, I always do a copy-paste. It was
copied from MandrakeClub.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Élie Charest
Le Vendredi 24 Octobre 2003 07:42, Régis Wira a écrit :

No problem here with a LG CD-RW CED-8080B.

> Some more working:
>
> HL-DT-ST GCE-8481B CD-CDRW on SIS 651/962 chipsets
>
> HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B on Shuttle SB 62 G2 (i865/ICH5)
>
> Le ven 24/10/2003 à 13:14, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> >
> > My updated list:
> >
> > fried:
> > CRD-8322B
> > CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> > CDR-8400B(mi)
> > CRD-8400C
> > COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> > CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> > GCR-8523B
> > LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
> >
> > work:
> > HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> > HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
> > LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> > LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> > HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>
> My updated list:
>
> fried:
> CRD-8322B
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CDR-8400B(mi)
=> ^^
Is this a typo?

> CRD-8400C
> COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> GCR-8523B
> LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
>
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
> LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Régis Wira
Some more working:

HL-DT-ST GCE-8481B CD-CDRW on SIS 651/962 chipsets

HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B on Shuttle SB 62 G2 (i865/ICH5)

Le ven 24/10/2003 à 13:14, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> 
> My updated list:
> 
> fried:
> CRD-8322B
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CDR-8400B(mi)
> CRD-8400C
> COMPAQ CRD-8402B
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> GCR-8523B
> LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
> 
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
> LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
> LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.

My updated list:

fried:
CRD-8322B
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CDR-8400B(mi)
CRD-8400C
COMPAQ CRD-8402B
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
GCR-8523B
LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)

work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Todd Lyons
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Guillaume Cottenceau wanted us to know:

>fried:
>CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
>CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
>CRD-8322B
>GCR-8523B
>
>work:
>HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
>HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
>
>That's not many, under the "work" label. And I'm a bit surprised.
>No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?

I do.  Just burned another set of 9.2 isos under 9.2 to make sure that
the upgrade from 9.1 -> 9.2 was good.  Even though it says I'm using
DMA, I can only burn at about a maximum of 8X (drive is capable of
burning at 24X).  Under the 9.1 update kernel (25mdk), I was able to
burn at 16X.  Under some older kernels it was burning at 32X even
though the drives says it's only capable of 24X.  Go figure.

Here's what I have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/ide/hdc/{model,settings}
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B
namevalue   min max mode
- -   --- --- 
bios_cyl0   0   1023rw
bios_head   0   0   255 rw
bios_sect   0   0   63  rw
current_speed   34  0   70  rw
init_speed  34  0   70  rw
io_32bit0   0   3   rw
keepsettings0   0   1   rw
log 0   0   1   rw
nice1   1   0   1   rw
number  2   0   3   rw
pio_modewrite-only  0   255 w
slow0   0   1   rw
transform   1   0   3   rw
unmaskirq   0   0   1   rw
using_dma   1   0   1   rw

And from dmesg:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5
SIS5513: chipset revision 208
SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SIS5513: SiS 961B MuTIOL IDE UDMA133 controller
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: SAMSUNG SV4002H, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c0180d20, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: Maxtor 52049H3, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c01812b0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 78242976 sectors (40060 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4870/255/63, UDMA(100)
hdd: attached ide-disk driver.
hdd: host protected area => 1
hdd: 40021632 sectors (20491 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=39704/16/63, UDMA(33)
Partition check:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 >
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: [PTBL] [2491/255/63] p1 p2 p3 < p5 p6 p7 >
ide: late registration of driver.

And the hardware:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspcidrake -v
unknown : Silicon Integrated System|SiS 650 Host-to-PCI Bridge [BRIDGE_H
OST] (vendor:1039 device:0650)
unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|5591/5592 AGP [BRIDGE_PCI] (v
endor:1039 device:0001)
unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|85C503/5513 [BRIDGE_ISA] (ven
dor:1039 device:0008)
usb-ohci: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|7001 USB [SERIAL_USB] (vendor
:1039 device:7001)
usb-ohci: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|7001 USB [SERIAL_USB] (vendor
:1039 device:7001)
unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|5513 [IDE] [STORAGE_IDE] (ven
dor:1039 device:5513)
snd-intel8x0: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator
 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1039 device:7012 subv:1458 subd:a001)
unknown : unknown (151f///) [COMMUNICATION_OTHER]
8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8139)
Card:SiS 650: Silicon Integrated System|SiS650/651/740 GUI 2D/3D Accelerator
 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1039 device:6325)
unknown : Unknown|USB OHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:0
000)
unknown : Unknown|USB OHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:0
000)
unknown : NEC Corporation|USB2.0 Hub Controller [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor:0
50d device:0224)

Success story here.  No burnt hardware.
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a
> > drive as well.
> 
> Yes I've been using the dvd drive. I'm watching dvd and read data CD no
> problem. Maybe it will die in a few days? Will see.
> 
> The system is PIII/933MHz Soyo MB. 

thx

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 14:34 schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau:
> Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector
> > 1404912 Oct 23 12:53:55 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00,
> > sector 1407792 Oct 23 12:54:02 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev
> > 0b:00, sector 1410672
> >
> >
> > I have to investigate that further. I can't imagine how a drive can
> > be fried by booting from it :( . I thought the kernel panic was
> > because of a bad image. Will check cabling and all the other things
> > in the evening today.
>
> Thx! Keep us in touch.

Cabling and my hardware is Ok. I have rechecked it with my teac drive i 
have laying around here. With that all is fine. So my LG is definitly 
fried. I will try to flash my LG drive tomorrow at work, or is 
something speaking against that ? Should i better send the drive to my 
store to get it repaired (I had it 3 weeks or the like build in, bought 
8 weeks before)? 

Effects of frying are here that i have a lot of drive seek complete 
errors and other read errors. Further: Since my CD1 is burned bad i 
hadn't booted after the kernel and got a kernel panic, so it seems not 
to be safe to boot the CD at all. 

My LG drive is a DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM Combo drive (GCC 4480B, firmware 
1.00), so it aren't only cdrom drives, but also burner. 

HTH and hope i get my drive back to life again

Steffen





Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Larry Nguyen
Vào ngày Th6, 24/10/2003 lúc 01:45, 1066934723 viết rằng:
> Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > My LG dvd works fine with beta*, rc*. I don't have final ISOs to
> > test. I did a net-install from ftp.
> 
> But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a
> drive as well.

Yes I've been using the dvd drive. I'm watching dvd and read data CD no
problem. Maybe it will die in a few days? Will see.

The system is PIII/933MHz Soyo MB. 
>  
> > Here's the model
> > HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B
> 

-Larry




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Régis Wira
It seems that only CD drives are affected, this is a CD burner, no report
about burners yet.

> Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> LD CD-RW CED-8120B on a ASUS K7M mobo works fine also.
>
> that's LD? not LG?
>
> --
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Spencer
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

LD CD-RW CED-8120B on a ASUS K7M mobo works fine also.
   

that's LD? not LG?

 

Correction ( LG ). At 6am my eyes aren't focusing:-)
/me needs more coffee before answering email



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> LD CD-RW CED-8120B on a ASUS K7M mobo works fine also.

that's LD? not LG?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Germ from mandrakeusers.org reported that his LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
> installed 9.2 "no probs"

thx

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Larry Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My LG dvd works fine with beta*, rc*. I don't have final ISOs to
> test. I did a net-install from ftp.

But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a
drive as well.
 
> Here's the model
> HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B


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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:59 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally
> fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting
> that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On
> MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell
> Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models.
>
> I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
this would be interesting to see the outcome of but LG drives are of 
particularly low quality. It would be my guess that they are simply dying 
from end of life span. It is not unheard of to have cdroms die while in use. 

On a side note it would be advisable to stay away from aopen drives also. Of 
course this goes without saying that you will want to stay way from any 
company that resells these drives also. 

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread illogic-al
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:34 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Curtis Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> > > CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> > > the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> > > 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
> >
> > If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
> > ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
> >
> > ]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
> > HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B
>
> Thanks!
>
> Then here's my current list:
>
> fried:
> CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
> CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
> CRD-8322B
> GCR-8523B
>
> work:
> HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
>
> That's not many, under the "work" label. And I'm a bit surprised.
> No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?
Germ from mandrakeusers.org reported that his LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
installed 9.2 "no probs"
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Larry Nguyen
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Curtis Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B


Thanks!

Then here's my current list:

fried:
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
CRD-8322B
GCR-8523B
work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
That's not many, under the "work" label. And I'm a bit surprised.
No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?
My LG dvd works fine with beta*, rc*. I don't have final ISOs to test. I 
did a net-install from ftp.

Here's the model
HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B
-Larry




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Spencer
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Curtis Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
 

If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B
   

Thanks!

Then here's my current list:

fried:
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
CRD-8322B
GCR-8523B
work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
That's not many, under the "work" label. And I'm a bit surprised.
No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?
 

LD CD-RW CED-8120B on a ASUS K7M mobo works fine also.




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404912
> Oct 23 12:53:55 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1407792
> Oct 23 12:54:02 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1410672
> 
> 
> I have to investigate that further. I can't imagine how a drive can be 
> fried by booting from it :( . I thought the kernel panic was because of 
> a bad image. Will check cabling and all the other things in the evening 
> today.

Thx! Keep us in touch.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Curtis Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> > CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> > the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> > 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
> 
> If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
> ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
> 
> ]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B

Thanks!

Then here's my current list:

fried:
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
CRD-8322B
GCR-8523B

work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)

That's not many, under the "work" label. And I'm a bit surprised.
No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 08:00 schrieb Curtis Hildebrand:
> > I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> > CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> > the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> > 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
>
> If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
> ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
>
> ]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B
>
> Curtis

I'm not sure if it is related. I have exactly that drive on an kt133a 
chipset/Duron 1,1 Ghz. Booting from Mdk 9.2 CD resulted in a kernel 
panic (error at decompressing kernel image) and i have now mostly read 
errors on every CD

Oct 23 12:53:35 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404748
Oct 23 12:53:42 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404752
Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel: scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 
0, CDB: Request Sense 00 00 00 40 00
Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel: Current sd0b:00: sense key Medium 
Error
Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel: Additional sense indicates No seek 
complete
Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404912
Oct 23 12:53:55 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1407792
Oct 23 12:54:02 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1410672


I have to investigate that further. I can't imagine how a drive can be 
fried by booting from it :( . I thought the kernel panic was because of 
a bad image. Will check cabling and all the other things in the evening 
today.

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Curtis Hildebrand

> I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).

If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.

]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B

Curtis





Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 10:31 pm, Robert L Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:45 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > Might help to also report the breed of IDE controller involved, and/or
> > the CPU brand and speed since it sounds like a combination of factors
> > is necessary to fry a drive.
>
> it may be a bit of a darwin problem does the installer try to pull the rpms
> very quickly?
>
> A coroners report on the drive might be helpful
>
> Les coroners rendent compte de la commande pourraient être utiles (used
> babelfish to get the french)
If anyone in the US has a dead one and can part with it, I'd be happy to 
undertake a postmortem on the dead drive.  Contact me off-list if interested.

Vincent Meyer, MD
.. electrical engineer before medical school




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Robert L Martin
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:45 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> Might help to also report the breed of IDE controller involved, and/or
> the CPU brand and speed since it sounds like a combination of factors
> is necessary to fry a drive.

it may be a bit of a darwin problem does the installer try to pull the rpms 
very quickly?

A coroners report on the drive might be helpful

Les coroners rendent compte de la commande pourraient être utiles (used 
babelfish to get the french)



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"ef2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now : LG CD-ROM Model GCR-8523B :/
> 
> http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=12989&forum=10

Ouch, that resembles much the GCR-8520B reported to work
correctly :/.

Then there might also be interactions with motherboards or
chipsets or bios config or bios firmware updates..

Well..

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread ef2
Now : LG CD-ROM Model GCR-8523B :/

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=12989&forum=10




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 17:26, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Teletchéa Stéphane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > 
> > Be carefull !
> > You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
> > for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.
> 
> I didn't quote anything from you, did I?
> 
> I didn't even mention the GCE-8240B.

Hum, sorry, the two posts were within 5 minutes, i took it for my post
...

You're right.

Sorry about the noise.

Stef

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Terjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel
> > nodma blacklist (drive_list_entry drive_blacklist).
> Reading the list I see stuff like :
> 
>   { "Compaq CRD-8241B",   "ALL"   },
>   { "CRD-8400B"   ,   "ALL"   },
>   { "CRD-8480B",  "ALL"   },
>   { "CRD-8480C",  "ALL"   },
>   { "CRD-8482B",  "ALL"   },
>   { "CRD-84"  ,   "ALL"   },

So this is definitely beyond DMA problems since people fried
CRD-8400B and CRD-8482B already :/.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
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> I am very doubtful if the "fried" drives have anything to do with dma.

Where do you think it could come from?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Teletchéa Stéphane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> 
> Be carefull !
> You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
> for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.

I didn't quote anything from you, did I?

I didn't even mention the GCE-8240B.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Pascal Terjan
Pascal Terjan wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel nodma 
blacklist (drive_list_entry drive_blacklist). 
Reading the list I see stuff like :

 { "Compaq CRD-8241B",   "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8400B"   ,   "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8480B",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8480C",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8482B",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-84"  ,   "ALL"   },
Does it work when this appears as substring ?
I guess not, else CRD-84 would be enough...

for ( ; drive_table->id_model ; drive_table++)
if ((!strcmp(drive_table->id_model, id->model)) &&
I think I have my answer...




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Pascal Terjan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel nodma blacklist 
(drive_list_entry drive_blacklist). 
Reading the list I see stuff like :

 { "Compaq CRD-8241B",   "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8400B"   ,   "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8480B",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8480C",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-8482B",  "ALL"   },
 { "CRD-84"  ,   "ALL"   },
Does it work when this appears as substring ?
I guess not, else CRD-84 would be enough...



Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Pascal Terjan
ef2 wrote:

I am afraid it also concerns the CRD-8322B :

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=12989&forum=10
Someone on IRC also just reported for CRD-8322B :/




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread ef2

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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom
drives


> Hi,
>
> Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally
> fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting
> that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On
> MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell
> Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models.
>

>
> For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
>


I am afraid it also concerns the CRD-8322B :

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=12989&forum=10

Eric




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:59, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally
> fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting
> that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On
> MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell
> Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models.

> I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).

Might help to also report the breed of IDE controller involved, and/or 
the CPU brand and speed since it sounds like a combination of factors 
is necessary to fry a drive.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> 
> > Le mer 22/10/2003 à 14:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > > On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> > > 
> > I did a fresh install for 8.1 and 9.0 (disk failure for the second
> > -backups are my friends-) and DMA was activated on my drive, causing it
> > to dma_errors 'DriveSeek Error ... blabla'.
> > 
> > I had to manually disable it by adding a line in /etc/sysconfig/hardhdc
> > telling explicitly DMA to be turned off.
> > 
> > Are you sure it is blacklisted ?
> 
> CRD-8400B is blacklisted, your drive is not. But it works in 9.1/9.2 with 
> DMA? If not I can make a patch in next kernel-mm and you can try if it 
> works for you.

It works with 9.1 and previous but WITHOUT DMA. I cannot test for 9.2
(production machine, uptime is important). Feel free for the patch,
although i would not be able to test it on the machine. May be someone
else ?

> I am very doubtful if the "fried" drives have anything to do with dma.

I hope it could help ...

Stef

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread danny
On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:

> Le mer 22/10/2003 à 14:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> > 
> > > Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Be carefull !
> > > You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
> > > for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.
> > > 
> > > I didn't test it already with 9.2 ...
> > Yes, but even until 9.1, you didn't fry the drive did you?
> 
> No, you're correct.
> 
> > DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel nodma blacklist 
> > (drive_list_entry drive_blacklist). IIRC during the first 2.4.x kernels it 
> > was not in the list, and people got dma errors, but no drive damage at 
> > all. I think you can only turn on dma on this drive with hdparm -d1 -X34 
> > /dev/hd?
> 
> I did a fresh install for 8.1 and 9.0 (disk failure for the second
> -backups are my friends-) and DMA was activated on my drive, causing it
> to dma_errors 'DriveSeek Error ... blabla'.
> 
> I had to manually disable it by adding a line in /etc/sysconfig/hardhdc
> telling explicitly DMA to be turned off.
> 
> Are you sure it is blacklisted ?

CRD-8400B is blacklisted, your drive is not. But it works in 9.1/9.2 with 
DMA? If not I can make a patch in next kernel-mm and you can try if it 
works for you.

I am very doubtful if the "fried" drives have anything to do with dma.

d.





Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 14:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> 
> > Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > 
> > Be carefull !
> > You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
> > for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.
> > 
> > I didn't test it already with 9.2 ...
> Yes, but even until 9.1, you didn't fry the drive did you?

No, you're correct.

> DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel nodma blacklist 
> (drive_list_entry drive_blacklist). IIRC during the first 2.4.x kernels it 
> was not in the list, and people got dma errors, but no drive damage at 
> all. I think you can only turn on dma on this drive with hdparm -d1 -X34 
> /dev/hd?

I did a fresh install for 8.1 and 9.0 (disk failure for the second
-backups are my friends-) and DMA was activated on my drive, causing it
to dma_errors 'DriveSeek Error ... blabla'.

I had to manually disable it by adding a line in /etc/sysconfig/hardhdc
telling explicitly DMA to be turned off.

Are you sure it is blacklisted ?

> I assume this drive is still in the blacklist, although since klama is 
> down i cannot check 9.2 kernel source at the moment.

Wrong for 8.1, 8.2, 9.0 and 9.1, why would it be like this for 9.2 ? 

> Also, it might be worthwhile to check if these guys did do a firmware 
> upgrade recently (or in any case what firmware version they use, perhaps 
> a flash can even revive the broken drive).

I didn't.

Stef

> d.
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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread danny
On 22 Oct 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:

> Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> 
> Be carefull !
> You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
> for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.
> 
> I didn't test it already with 9.2 ...
Yes, but even until 9.1, you didn't fry the drive did you?

DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel nodma blacklist 
(drive_list_entry drive_blacklist). IIRC during the first 2.4.x kernels it 
was not in the list, and people got dma errors, but no drive damage at 
all. I think you can only turn on dma on this drive with hdparm -d1 -X34 
/dev/hd?

I assume this drive is still in the blacklist, although since klama is 
down i cannot check 9.2 kernel source at the moment.

Also, it might be worthwhile to check if these guys did do a firmware 
upgrade recently (or in any case what firmware version they use, perhaps 
a flash can even revive the broken drive).

d.




Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Hi,
> 

Be carefull !
You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.

I didn't test it already with 9.2 ...

So htis drive cannot be considered as 'safe' for 9.2.

Stef

> Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally
> fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting
> that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On
> MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell
> Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models.
> 
> I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
> CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
> the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
> 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
> 
> For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
> 
> Please, every people with an LG model who already installed 9.2
> (download or powerpack), please report the model of your LG
> drive, and whether it's still alive or not :). Please ask that
> also to your friends who don't read cooker/expert lists. Also, in
> the following days, one might consider not installing 9.2 with LG
> drives, until we can provide a workaround to the problem.
> 
> 
> You can have exact model name of your cdrom by looking at the
> corresponding proc file. For example, if your CDROM is the first
> IDE medium of your second IDE adapter, its name is "hdc" and you
> can do the following to see the model:
> 
> cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
> 
> You can even do that at the very beginning of the graphical
> install, by going to the second console (Ctrl Alt F2) and typing
> the previous command. This should be safe as the "fry" always
> occurs at the beginning of the package installation. Then, reboot
> your computer.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Ref: 
> [1] 
> http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=12568&forum=9
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