Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 01:06:25AM -0400, Hoyt wrote: BTW, there should be a better way to access the docs and READMEs that are installed during the installation. They are everywhere and hard to find unless you are good at grepping - and then you need to know almost specifically what you are looking for. Aren't they all in /usr/doc? It's a pain to search for what you want in there (if you forget about tab completion :), but they're all in one place. I noticed a "Help - HOWTOs" in one of the menus, which should make things easier. Yes, in the menu there's Help/Howto's, which brings up Netscape with the html-Howto's. However, that's true that it is sometimes hard for newbies to discover the place for documentation for packages ; and also, once you know it, it's not easy to browse in it if you don't like the command line tools. Most users are not extreme-geeks :-). I would add, to be more general, that some packages are bringing man pages, some others info pages, some others only a text-faq, some others, html documentation, etc. It is true that it would be better to be easily informed, say, given a package name, what sort of help/information system is available. Anyone thinking this may be a good idea / anyone having an idea how we could realize that ? -- Guillaume Cottenceau
RE: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
Yes, in the menu there's Help/Howto's, which brings up Netscape with the html-Howto's. However, that's true that it is sometimes hard for newbies to discover the place for documentation for packages ; and also, once you know it, it's not easy to browse in it if you don't like the command line tools. Most users are not extreme-geeks :-). I would add, to be more general, that some packages are bringing man pages, some others info pages, some others only a text-faq, some others, html documentation, etc. It is true that it would be better to be easily informed, say, given a package name, what sort of help/information system is available. Anyone thinking this may be a good idea / anyone having an idea how we could realize that ? a easy way is to write a frontend rpm -qal or something to check fro a list of documents avaialble on the system. the usual search directories should be included of course, i.e. /usr/doc /usr/info. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
you already have apache and dig in your distro this could very easily make it searchable. As far as the distro being to big apache is not so big and you get searchable help files. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 01:06:25AM -0400, Hoyt wrote: BTW, there should be a better way to access the docs and READMEs that are installed during the installation. They are everywhere and hard to find unless you are good at grepping - and then you need to know almost specifically what you are looking for. Aren't they all in /usr/doc? It's a pain to search for what you want in there (if you forget about tab completion :), but they're all in one place. I noticed a "Help - HOWTOs" in one of the menus, which should make things easier. Yes, in the menu there's Help/Howto's, which brings up Netscape with the html-Howto's. However, that's true that it is sometimes hard for newbies to discover the place for documentation for packages ; and also, once you know it, it's not easy to browse in it if you don't like the command line tools. Most users are not extreme-geeks :-). I would add, to be more general, that some packages are bringing man pages, some others info pages, some others only a text-faq, some others, html documentation, etc. It is true that it would be better to be easily informed, say, given a package name, what sort of help/information system is available. Anyone thinking this may be a good idea / anyone having an idea how we could realize that ? -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
:~It is true that it would be better to be easily informed, say, given a :~package name, what sort of help/information system is available. :~ :~ :~Anyone thinking this may be a good idea / anyone having an idea how we :~could realize that ? "rpm -qd" is a good starting point. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
I am aware that the howto's are in /user/doc but if the html versions were installed under /home/http along with mandrakeuser.org it would be easy to index the pages with htdig. this would make it easy for anyone with a browser to be able to search the howto's doc's whatever. The last part is that some have complained that the distro is getting to big and they want a minimal install. What I am saying is that apache and htdig if they were installed just as a search facilitator for only the local machine (with permissions set for only localhost to use for security) would mot take up that much space they are both combined last i looked under a meg of space. However the howto's are another matter. The point is that it is doable. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Brook humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you already have apache and dig in your distro this could very easily make it searchable. As far as the distro being to big apache is not so big and you get searchable help files. I'm sorry, but I am completely lost in space.. can you explain ? -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
Brook humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am aware that the howto's are in /user/doc but if the html versions were installed under /home/http along with mandrakeuser.org it would be easy to index the pages with htdig. this would make it easy for anyone with a browser to be able to search the howto's doc's whatever. i don't see the point. the html howto's are accessible through a menu entry + you can see them in /usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML... -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
the point is to put a search engine on them. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Brook humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am aware that the howto's are in /user/doc but if the html versions were installed under /home/http along with mandrakeuser.org it would be easy to index the pages with htdig. this would make it easy for anyone with a browser to be able to search the howto's doc's whatever. i don't see the point. the html howto's are accessible through a menu entry + you can see them in /usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML... -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] HOWTOS
"Geoffrey Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a easy way is to write a frontend rpm -qal or something to check fro a list -qald should be better or implementing the dwww system from debian. of documents avaialble on the system. the usual search directories should be included of course, i.e. /usr/doc /usr/info. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com In travel.--Chmouel
