Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread Carfield Yim
> francesco.melo wrote:
> 
> > this works for me now
> > try
> > maybe can help you
> > regards francesco
> 
> That worked. Perhaps FONT_SCALING needs to be on as well. In any case, I 
> have found out a little bit more on this topic.
> 
> This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes 
> how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font 
> (Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which 
> is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is 
> monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this 
> ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the 
> freetype2 RPM.
>
I also have the same problem, all font in openoffice disappeared. But I miss 
the old post, and can't find the archive of cooker mailing list.

Can you tell me what patch/fix should I apply?





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread Ural Khassanov
On Friday 13 December 2002 22:50, David Walluck wrote:

> This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes
> how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font
> (Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which
> is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is
> monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this
> ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the
> freetype2 RPM.

I also tried the solution from ft-smooth's README, it works, but when I select 
page zoom too small, say 50%, all fonts <12pt disappear again. Print preview 
is empty too. It seems that OO switches antialiasing off for small fonts and 
'options/view/antialiasing-from N pixels' setting doesn't help. 

I ended up compiling libfreetype-2.0.9 with hinting and LD_PRELOAD it in the 
'ooffice' script. Version 2.0.9 is the best for OO 1.0.1.

Ural.





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread David Walluck
francesco.melo wrote:


this works for me now
try
maybe can help you
regards francesco


That worked. Perhaps FONT_SCALING needs to be on as well. In any case, I 
have found out a little bit more on this topic.

This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes 
how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font 
(Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which 
is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is 
monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this 
ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the 
freetype2 RPM.

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread francesco.melo
David Walluck wrote:


francesco.melo wrote:


Pascal Terjan wrote:


nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how 
would that be
achieved if nothing can be read?




vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font




thanks :)

now it works !



.



Not for me. I still can't see any of the menu/dialog fonts, no matter 
what name I put there.

### Define font to use for user interface (default: AUTO).
# If set to "AUTO", ooffice will choose the UI font according to the
# current UI language, the first time you start in that
# language. Otherwise, this shall match the actual font name.
UI_FONT="helvetica"

### Define font scaling (default: not set).
# If set to "AUTO", font scaling is set based on the current display
# resolution of first screen. Otherwise, this shall be a valid number.
FONT_SCALING="AUTO"

### Define paper size for documents without printer configured (default: 
AUTO).
# If set to "AUTO", paper size for new documents is set based on the
# current locale. Otherwise, this shall match a valid paper size.
PAPER_SIZE="AUTO"
#
# NOTE: The $HOME/.openoffice/user/psprint/psprint.conf file is
# automatically regenerated whenever you start ooffice with a valid
# value for PAPER_SIZE, and system psprint.conf is actually
# newer. Therefore, undefine this variable if you have genuine changes
# done in the user psprint.conf.
#
# Possible values: A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, B4, B5, B6, Legal,
# Letter, Executive, Statement, Tabloid, Ledger, AnsiC, AnsiD, ARCHA,
# ARCHB, ARCHC, ARCHD, ARCHE, EnvMonarch, EnvC4, EnvC5, EnvC6, Env10,
# EnvC65, Folio.



this works for me now
try
maybe can help you
regards francesco




Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread David Walluck
francesco.melo wrote:

Pascal Terjan wrote:


nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how 
would that be
achieved if nothing can be read?



vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font




thanks :)

now it works !



.



Not for me. I still can't see any of the menu/dialog fonts, no matter 
what name I put there.

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Fonts, GUI design and visualy impaired Was: Re: [Cooker] [openoffice]GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread Lea Gris
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francesco.melo wrote:

Pascal Terjan wrote:


nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how 
would that be
achieved if nothing can be read?



vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font




thanks :)

now it works !




Having:

UI_FONT="helvetica"

and

FONT_SCALING="AUTO"

Just gives a more soft and clean look.

Im a very low sighted person with 1/10 both eyes (normal sight field 
though). That's why I pay so much attention to font and colour choices 
for any GUIs.

Hav to do balanced choices between font size and usability. Large fonts 
= easy read = much less information per screen = bloated UI
small fonts = more workspace per screen = well balanced UI = eye stress

I just keep using clear design san serif fonts like "clean, 
helvetica..." as 12pt (72 DPI screen)
I read that on a 21" screen at a distance of 5" (4" from a 17" screen). 
This means 1024x768 for the max everyday resolution.

Hope this might help Mandrake consider visualy impaired persons in teir 
own developments and built'in ready to use config designs.

Regards,

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread francesco.melo
Pascal Terjan wrote:


nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how 
would that be
achieved if nothing can be read?


vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font




thanks :)

now it works !





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Terjan
Pascal Terjan wrote:


nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how 
would that be
achieved if nothing can be read?


vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font


And then run, for instance, oowriter
(I translate from the french version I have so the labels may be different)
Menu Tools/Options/OpenOffice.org/Font substitution
Unselect it
Got much more beautiful :-)





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Terjan
nDiScReEt wrote:



Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would 
that be
achieved if nothing can be read?

vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf
replace AUTO by the name of the font





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Austin Acton
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:58, nDiScReEt wrote:
> Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be 
> achieved if nothing can be read?

You gots to have skills to run cooker.
Use the force.  ;-)
Austin

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread nDiScReEt
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On Thursday 12 December 2002 9:43 am, Austin Acton wrote:
> Change your UI font to Lucida.  It works.
> Austin
>
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> > OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or
> > not printed at all).
> >
> > Documents fonts are all ok.
> >
> > I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't
> > find much more about it.
> >
> > Anyone has a fix yet for this ?
> > Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ?
> > Someone's already cooking a fix ?
> >
> > regards,

Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be 
achieved if nothing can be read?

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Buchan Milne
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David Walluck wrote:
> Giuseppe Ghibr wrote:
>
>> The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have
>> to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding.

Yes, I would be prepared to build an host OO.o for cooker at
http://ranger.dnsalias.com if someone can let me at the patch. I have
build OO.o RPMs before ...

> Is it possible to get this patch in the meantime? Even if it is not
> ready for public consumption, you may email it or provide me a URL
> directly. In a week I leave University for the holidays. If an OO.org
> update does not happen within the next week, then I am stuck for about 5
> or 6 weeks with no office suite.
>
> On an only slightly related note, one other thing I have been hoping for
> is a KDE with the slow debug feature turned off. With debug turned on
> the speed is too slow, even on my 1 GHz machine. I guess someone would
> need to volunteer to provide these. I am not expecting Mandrake to turn
> debug off until the 3.1 release, or possibly Mandrake plans on leaving
> it on in Cooker always, which I wouldn't be too happy about.
>

I think the only way you're going to get KDE without debugging
(possibly) would be Mandrake 9.0 with KDE3.1 final, which wil pobably be
after you're back ...

unless someone volunteers to build ... and anyone finding bugs is
preparted to revert to provide debugging ...

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread David Walluck
Giuseppe Ghibr wrote:


The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have
to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding.

Bue.
Giuseppe.


Is it possible to get this patch in the meantime? Even if it is not 
ready for public consumption, you may email it or provide me a URL 
directly. In a week I leave University for the holidays. If an OO.org 
update does not happen within the next week, then I am stuck for about 5 
or 6 weeks with no office suite.

On an only slightly related note, one other thing I have been hoping for 
is a KDE with the slow debug feature turned off. With debug turned on 
the speed is too slow, even on my 1 GHz machine. I guess someone would 
need to volunteer to provide these. I am not expecting Mandrake to turn 
debug off until the 3.1 release, or possibly Mandrake plans on leaving 
it on in Cooker always, which I wouldn't be too happy about.

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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Austin Acton
Change your UI font to Lucida.  It works.
Austin

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 04:49, Lea Gris wrote:
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> OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or
> not printed at all).
> 
> Documents fonts are all ok.
> 
> I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't
> find much more about it.
> 
> Anyone has a fix yet for this ?
> Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ?
> Someone's already cooking a fix ?
> 
> regards,
> 
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Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
francesco.melo wrote:

Pascal Terjan wrote:


Buchan Milne wrote:


It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who
actually have working UI can document how others can do it ...

Buchan
(still running 643C so he can see the menus ...)




It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one 
neither on my laptop.
The 3 machines are up to date cooker.

I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop 
computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I 
moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it 
tonight.



i have two version of oo in mty system.
1) 101 from openoffice .org
2) rpm from mandrake

so the invisible font is from mandrake rpm version .
but:
open mdk verion ...invisible
open oo version ...invisible
open again oo version ... works
so the first time after a mdk start also ooversion didn't work..
i have the lastest cooker ..
i am not able to know when exctly it stopped to work

francesco




The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have
to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding.

Bue.
Giuseppe.






Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread francesco.melo
Pascal Terjan wrote:


Buchan Milne wrote:


It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who
actually have working UI can document how others can do it ...

Buchan
(still running 643C so he can see the menus ...)



It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one 
neither on my laptop.
The 3 machines are up to date cooker.

I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop 
computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I 
moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it 
tonight.



i have two version of oo in mty system.
1) 101 from openoffice .org
2) rpm from mandrake

so the invisible font is from mandrake rpm version .
but:
open mdk verion ...invisible
open oo version ...invisible
open again oo version ... works
so the first time after a mdk start also ooversion didn't work..
i have the lastest cooker ..
i am not able to know when exctly it stopped to work

francesco





Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Pascal Terjan
Buchan Milne wrote:


It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who
actually have working UI can document how others can do it ...

Buchan
(still running 643C so he can see the menus ...)


It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one neither 
on my laptop.
The 3 machines are up to date cooker.

I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop 
computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I 
moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it 
tonight.




Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles

2002-12-12 Thread Buchan Milne
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Lea Gris wrote:
> OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or
> not printed at all).
>
> Documents fonts are all ok.
>
> I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't
> find much more about it.
>
> Anyone has a fix yet for this ?
> Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ?

Probably lack of support for Xft2/fontconfig in OO.o

> Someone's already cooking a fix ?

Gwenole?

It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who
actually have working UI can document how others can do it ...

Buchan
(still running 643C so he can see the menus ...)

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