Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Vox wrote:
 
 "xhost +localhost" as the user that runs X, then "export
 DISPLAY=:0" as root in the terminal where you su'ed will get you going.
 (that second part is what was missing in the original answer)

Yes, that works.

But the oddest thing is that having done that once suing to root and
command line kediting or invoking the File Mangaer (Super User) menu
option now always works on the user's :0 display without having to do
the above.

Even after relogging in.

Even after totally rebooting.

So what are we chasing here???

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Regards,

Ron. [AU]




Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-06 Thread Frederic Lepied

Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Today's 7.2 beta has the following show-stopper problem:
 
 Log in as a user.
 
 Open a terminal window
 
 su to root
 
 kedit /etc/modules.conf
 
 You CANNOT!   X refuses to let user root use display :0.
 
 All previous Mandrakes permitted su root full access to the machine
 and all its functions.
 
 Without this capability the ability to su becomes near useless.


What type of installation hve you done ? I have just tried a small install and
this work justs fine. This should be handled by the pam_xauth module which must
be present in /etc/pam.d/su.
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Frederic Lepied wrote:

 What type of installation hve you done ? I have just tried a small install and
 this work justs fine. This should be handled by the pam_xauth module which must
 be present in /etc/pam.d/su.

english (UK) - US international keyboard - medium_security - hd
optimisations - 128KB - no supermount - no numlock - customized -
install - development - all packages.

But the problem has gone away now - see my earlier message.

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Regards,

Ron. [AU]




Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Thu, 05 Oct 2000, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Today's 7.2 beta has the following show-stopper problem:

 Log in as a user.

 Open a terminal window

 su to root

 kedit /etc/modules.conf

 You CANNOT!   X refuses to let user root use display :0.

 All previous Mandrakes permitted su root full access to the machine
 and all its functions.

 Without this capability the ability to su becomes near useless.

 IMO, very serious!

 The same situation occurs if you:

 K

 Applications

 File Tools

 File Manager (super user mode)

 Bring up /etc

 Try to edit modules.conf

 --- silence ---

Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the problem). 
xhost +127.0.0.1
Solves your problem

I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)


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Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Ron Stodden

Bryan Paxton wrote:

 Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the problem).
 xhost +127.0.0.1
 Solves your problem
 
 I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
 You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)

What an awful way to respond!  Do you not realise we are performing
beta testing on a product for world-wide distribution?

I stand by my claim - not a user error, a showstopper (which your
'fix' does not fix, BTW).

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Thu, 05 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Bryan Paxton wrote:
  Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the problem).
  xhost +127.0.0.1
  Solves your problem
 
  I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
  You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)

 What an awful way to respond!  Do you not realise we are performing
 beta testing on a product for world-wide distribution?

 I stand by my claim - not a user error, a showstopper (which your
 'fix' does not fix, BTW).

P.S.: try xhost +localhost


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Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Vox


During the bombing raid of Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:45:55 +1100, somebody
heard Ron Stodden mumble in fear:

 Bryan Paxton wrote:
  
   Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the problem).
   xhost +127.0.0.1
   Solves your problem
   
   I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
   You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)
  
  What an awful way to respond!  Do you not realise we are performing
  beta testing on a product for world-wide distribution?

Yes, and if you read bugtraq or securityportal or similar sites,
you'll notice that the fact that you could do that in previous versions
of Mandrake was conscidered a *BUG* because only the user that starts an
X session should have access to it unless he *specifically* decides
otherwise.  I'm glad mandrake fixed this *security hole*

  I stand by my claim - not a user error, a showstopper (which your
  'fix' does not fix, BTW).

"xhost +localhost" as the user that runs X, then "export
DISPLAY=:0" as root in the terminal where you su'ed will get you going.
(that second part is what was missing in the original answer)

Vox

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messenger...
For info about safety in BDSM, visit Vox's Info Center at 
 http://www.the-vox.com/

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Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use 
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Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:45:55PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Bryan Paxton wrote:
 
  Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the problem).
  xhost +127.0.0.1
  Solves your problem
  
  I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
  You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)
 
 What an awful way to respond!  Do you not realise we are performing
 beta testing on a product for world-wide distribution?

 I stand by my claim - not a user error, a showstopper (which your
 'fix' does not fix, BTW).


I think this is handled by msec now.

Not a "bug" but a feature, you should have read the changelog for xinitrc package. 
:-)



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 Ron. [AU]

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Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta show stopper

2000-10-05 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Yo,

 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:45:55PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
  Bryan Paxton wrote:
   Not a bug at all, this is user error(you failed to research the
   problem). xhost +127.0.0.1
   Solves your problem
  
   I suggest putting this in your ~/.xinitrc
   You can optionally put this in the global Xsession file(in /etc/X11)
 
  What an awful way to respond!  Do you not realise we are performing
  beta testing on a product for world-wide distribution?
 
  I stand by my claim - not a user error, a showstopper (which your
  'fix' does not fix, BTW).

 I think this is handled by msec now.

 Not a "bug" but a feature, you should have read the changelog for xinitrc
 package.

yes this was intended to be handled by msec since 7.1, though somewhere it 
got fubar : p


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