Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today? When it's done.

2002-03-12 Thread andre

Op dinsdag 12 maart 2002 05:01, schreef u:
 On Monday 11 March 2002 23:52, Brad Felmey wrote:
  On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 12:03, SI Reasoning wrote:
  Don't be in such a rush! I feel it is much more
  important to work through all of these fixes and
  release the most stable version possible.
 
  Personally, I think it is VERY  important to have
  things work out of the box.
 
  snip
 
  Especially businesses, who are taking the
  hardest look at Mandrake (for both servers and as a
  desktop)
 
  I second this. I'm pinning a lot of hope on Mdk 8.2 for desktop
  duty at work for our programmers.

 I third this. 8.0 and 8.1, despite having loads more useful features (like
 ext3 and mod_dav) and up-to-date applications (like ethereal and KOffice),
 also had some significant things which did not work well (or usually at
 all) out of the box, like Broadcast 2000 and WINE.

 I would *much* rather that significant things like this worked well
 *OUT*OF*THE*BOX* (ie, no recompiles, no adding of Windows libraries etc)
 than have it look nicer or be released earlier, impatient as I am to get my
 hands on a nice neat package full of shiny new toys.

 Also, the whole Open Source community benefits from the close inspections
 that their applications suffer during intense Cookering.

 Cheers; Leon

You can't ask that notepad works in wine. That would be something to hard to 
ask.




Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today? When it's done.

2002-03-11 Thread Anthony Symons

On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 14:31, Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Monday 11 March 2002 23:52, Brad Felmey wrote:
  On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 12:03, SI Reasoning wrote:

  Personally, I think it is VERY  important to have
  things work out of the box.

  I second this. I'm pinning a lot of hope on Mdk 8.2 for desktop

 I third this. 8.0 and 8.1, despite having loads more useful features (like 

I forth it. The reason I originally switched to mandrake was because it
worked better than redhat. The niceness of it was just a bonus. I had no
problems with 8.0, and a lot with 8.1. 8.2 should be perfect and confirm
to the skeptics after 8.1 that mandrake is a quality distro.

BTW I run a mandrake virus scanning mailserver based on 8.0 here. Its
medium sized, handling approx 15,000 mails per week. It worked the day
they plugged it in, and it has been up and not skipped a beat since. The
exchange server however has crapped out majorly about 4 times. There are
a lot of people who want redhat because its the norm, but they cant
justify the swap as long as there hasnt been a single problem with the
mandrake box :) I belive quaily is more important ahead of anything
else.

Ant

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today? When it's done.

2002-03-11 Thread Leon Brooks

On Tuesday 12 March 2002 12:56, Anthony Symons wrote:
 BTW I run a mandrake virus scanning mailserver based on 8.0 here. Its
 medium sized, handling approx 15,000 mails per week. It worked the day
 they plugged it in, and it has been up and not skipped a beat since. The
 exchange server however has crapped out majorly about 4 times. There are
 a lot of people who want redhat because its the norm, but they cant
 justify the swap as long as there hasnt been a single problem with the
 mandrake box :) I belive quaily is more important ahead of anything
 else.

I have a Mandrake (8.1) mailserver, nothing like 15kMails/day but scans 
viruses using Sophos managed by AMaViS, competing with RedHat in a pigeon 
pair of companies. SendMail under Redhat, although listening on port 25, was 
no accepting mail from the LAN today. PostFix under Mandrake has never 
blinked.

The reason I got the job in the first place was because of another (then 8.0, 
now 8.1) Mandrake server (still not 15kMails/day but scores of websites as 
well, and firewall/proxy for a dozen public-access screens, SaMBa and NFS 
server, jukebox (no, I'm not kidding, the keyboard cable runs through a wall 
and people select songs on it, blind, from outside) and scores more DNS 
zones, SMS relay, mailing lists, yadda yadda - name it, it runs here) which 
has never blipped despite considerable abuse (power losses etc).

I also have servers replacing Exchange, and their big feature, from the POV 
of their owners, is that they've forgotten that the mail servers exist.

It must be said in all fairness that the vast majority of buggy/unstable 
stuff that I've had problems with are not services but applications, and 
mostly X applications. And also that, bugs or no, Mandrake (even 8.1) doesn't 
(yet, and may it never) have Windows' habit of changing (ie breaking) things 
spontaneously.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today?

2002-03-08 Thread Daouda LO

Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I'm curious... Is Cooker to be 8.2 final today?

No.




Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today?

2002-03-08 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Vendredi 8 Mars 2002 14:41, vous avez écrit :
 Hi,

 I'm curious... Is Cooker to be 8.2 final today?

I have some friends who are courius to know then name of the 8.2, is there 
information about this ? Or it is a secret.

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker = 8.2 final today?

2002-03-08 Thread Warly

Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le Vendredi 8 Mars 2002 14:41, vous avez écrit :
 Hi,

 I'm curious... Is Cooker to be 8.2 final today?

 I have some friends who are courius to know then name of the 8.2, is there 
 information about this ? Or it is a secret.

Well, quite secret as we do not know it yet clearly

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