Re: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use?
LINK WORLD wrote: Dear Cooker, I have now come to the stage where I wish to commercially (yet freely) bundle Mandrake Linux on systems that I sell. However I find Mandrake (as well as Suse, Red Hat, Corel, Turbo, Storm and more) very slow. I have settled on Mandrake due to its extremely stable nature (no hanging system malfunction in over 40 days of use). The systems that I wish to sell are presently Cyrix 333 Mhz, 512K Cache, 32MB Ram, 4.2GB Hard Disk AT25 VGA card, CD rom without sound card, for typical office use. Yet the systems are slooow. I have tried 'hdparm', removed daemons and other startups I dont need, increased swap size, removed unwanted installed rpm's, but its of no use. The same systems function excellently (as far as speed goes) on Windows-95. Star office takes aeons to load, and if I try development tools like AnyJ, then the system almost stops. Star Office is a hog- on any OS. A fact that I think Sun is even admitting due to the plans to break up the components of the system with version 6.0 (somebody correct me I am wrong). As far as AnyJ or any Java-written program, use IBM JDK/JRE 1.3 and dump the others. IBM's Java is so blazingly fast (for Java at least). In the August 200 LinuxJournal, there is an article about Java implementations on Linux. The author apparently had little time to put IBM JRE 1.3 through the same tests; however, he provided a small statistic that showed it to be 2-3 times faster than other Linux Java implementations. Yet, still only 70-75% the speed on C++. -matthew porter I have been under the impression that linux is not as demanding on resources as Windows, MS-Office Visual Studio. Where have I gone wrong? Please help. As a Windows user I have come to love appreciate Linux, but I am now at my wits end. If I need to spend more on hardware like memory SCSI drives then a large part of the desire to switch to Linux (at least on the Desktop) will be negated. A happy but frustrated user, Sunil Gupta Link World.
Re: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use?
- Original Message - From: "LINK WORLD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:06 AM Subject: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use? Dear Cooker, I have now . . . 32MB Ram . . . Yet the systems are slooow. . I have been under the impression that linux is not as demanding on resources as Windows, MS-Office Visual Studio. Where have I gone wrong? You have been listening to the Linux hype. When run with only a command shell, Linux is very fast, even on low memory machines. X uses a significant amount of memory as KDE and GNOME. (This has nothing to do with Mandrake's Linux, btw. All the distros share this "problem".) The solutuion? 1. Add more memory to the systems, especially if you want to run StarOffice. 2. Use a lightweight replacement for X (tinyX ?) and a lightweight replacemnent for KDE/GNOME and have a fast disk system to make swap work as fast as possible. Hoyt
RE: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use?
I have now come to the stage where I wish to commercially (yet freely) bundle Mandrake Linux on systems that I sell. However I find Mandrake (as well as Suse, Red Hat, Corel, Turbo, Storm and more) very slow. I have settled on Mandrake due to its extremely stable nature (no hanging system malfunction in over 40 days of use). The systems that I wish to sell are presently Cyrix 333 Mhz, 512K Cache, 32MB Ram, 4.2GB Hard Disk AT25 VGA card, CD rom without sound card, for typical office use. It's good to see Mandrake bundled. Decent specs, although the memory seems a bit low for today's standards. Yet the systems are slooow. I have tried 'hdparm', removed daemons and other startups I dont need, increased swap size, removed unwanted installed rpm's, but its of no use. The same systems function excellently (as far as speed goes) on Windows-95. Star office takes aeons to load, and if I try development tools like AnyJ, then the system almost stops. I'm guessing you've disabled a lot of the unneeded services (PCMCIA and many others..)? I won't be the only one to tell you that StarOffice (at least version 5.1) is a SEVERE resource hog. Have you tried 5.2? I would not be surprised if doubling the memory (64MB) made a huge difference, have you tried that yet? I have been under the impression that linux is not as demanding on resources as Windows, MS-Office Visual Studio. Where have I gone wrong? This impression is correct, but it takes quite a bit of stripping unneeded junk to get it down to the point where you really see a difference. That's one of the benefits of Linux, you can strip it down. You can't do that with Windows. Please help. As a Windows user I have come to love appreciate Linux, but I am now at my wits end. If I need to spend more on hardware like memory SCSI drives then a large part of the desire to switch to Linux (at least on the Desktop) will be negated. I would hate to see a converted Windows user go back home. I would recommend trying a little more memory, though. The rest of the hardware specs seem more than adequate. Depending on what you're using the systems for, it's possible there's more things that can be disabled/removed that you don't know about. Your current GUI setup may also need to be tweaked to remove added features that you really don't need/use that are taking up vital resources. There's a lot of possibilities. Don Head [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Linux Mentor [1 314 692-1942] Wave Technologies, Inc. [1 800 826-4640 x1942] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935][Yahoo - Don_Wave]
RE: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use?
I think also that 32 MB is a little. We were running on 40MB and now on 64MB and it is big different. Andy -Pùvodní zpráva- Od: Matthew E. Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Odesláno: 3. srpna 2000 17:12 Komu: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pøedmìt: Re: [Cooker] How to speedup Mandrake for general desktop use? LINK WORLD wrote: Dear Cooker, I have now come to the stage where I wish to commercially (yet freely) bundle Mandrake Linux on systems that I sell. However I find Mandrake (as well as Suse, Red Hat, Corel, Turbo, Storm and more) very slow. I have settled on Mandrake due to its extremely stable nature (no hanging system malfunction in over 40 days of use). The systems that I wish to sell are presently Cyrix 333 Mhz, 512K Cache, 32MB Ram, 4.2GB Hard Disk AT25 VGA card, CD rom without sound card, for typical office use. Yet the systems are slooow. I have tried 'hdparm', removed daemons and other startups I dont need, increased swap size, removed unwanted installed rpm's, but its of no use. The same systems function excellently (as far as speed goes) on Windows-95. Star office takes aeons to load, and if I try development tools like AnyJ, then the system almost stops. Star Office is a hog- on any OS. A fact that I think Sun is even admitting due to the plans to break up the components of the system with version 6.0 (somebody correct me I am wrong). As far as AnyJ or any Java-written program, use IBM JDK/JRE 1.3 and dump the others. IBM's Java is so blazingly fast (for Java at least). In the August 200 LinuxJournal, there is an article about Java implementations on Linux. The author apparently had little time to put IBM JRE 1.3 through the same tests; however, he provided a small statistic that showed it to be 2-3 times faster than other Linux Java implementations. Yet, still only 70-75% the speed on C++. -matthew porter I have been under the impression that linux is not as demanding on resources as Windows, MS-Office Visual Studio. Where have I gone wrong? Please help. As a Windows user I have come to love appreciate Linux, but I am now at my wits end. If I need to spend more on hardware like memory SCSI drives then a large part of the desire to switch to Linux (at least on the Desktop) will be negated. A happy but frustrated user, Sunil Gupta Link World.
