RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
well at one time i found away to use certain winmodems i think it was called linmodem.net that or linmodems.net but i dunno if there still doing the project though -Original Message- From: Guillaume Cottenceau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem "Riyad Kalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he > kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. this is because: . it needs a driver. at present time these manufacturers do not write drivers for Linux. . and, more important, the driver involves some patented algorithm, so reverse engineering / use of the patented algorithm is sort of risky for people, who prefer to say "get a real modem". -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
"Riyad Kalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he > kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. this is because: . it needs a driver. at present time these manufacturers do not write drivers for Linux. . and, more important, the driver involves some patented algorithm, so reverse engineering / use of the patented algorithm is sort of risky for people, who prefer to say "get a real modem". -- Guillaume Cottenceau
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
You did better than me when I tried it the other day on my laptop I dialed, connected and then got a kernel segfault. -Chris On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Greg Drake wrote: > Unfortunately, it came with the computer I bought. I'm building a new one > now, though - without a Winmodem!! > > -Original Message- > From: Geoffrey Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > > > > > > > > I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I > > attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. > > > > > what you get for using some no-source-code-proprietary crap :( > >
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
I read the Howto, and followed the steps. Like I said, it didn't work, so it's looking like it's still NEVER. -Original Message- From: Riyad Kalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: Greg Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:12 AM To: Barry@Klein; Barry Klein Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. - Original Message - From: Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Barry Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Klein wrote: > > > > > winmodems, whatever they may be: they cannot be supported and will > > probably never be. > > > > You should have had many replies to this comment by now, however, I am > > going to add mine. > > > > I have successfully used a Lucent 'winmodem' with Mandrake 7 (as > > supplied by PC Plus magazine of May 2000). The information and driver > > was obtained from > > > > www.linmodems.org > > > > 1. this driver is binary only, so this is not what I call supported. > > 2. this same driver (I got one too) woes on 2.2.15 - therefore it's not > supported on 7.1. > > losemodems are therefore not supported. > > -- > fg > > "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck manpage) >
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
Unfortunately, it came with the computer I bought. I'm building a new one now, though - without a Winmodem!! -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > > I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I > attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. what you get for using some no-source-code-proprietary crap :(
Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
- Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > > buy a real modem instead of a microsoft-only / proprietary only modem :) > > If you already have a notebook with a winmodem, that is often not an option. Would that we could all buy our way out of hardware incompatability. Hoyt
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Icebreaker wrote: > > I need to point out that even though 2.2.15-0.2mdk is a prekernel, my > winmodem > works fine with it. It stopped working around 2.2.15-0.24mdk, so > something was > either removed or changed. All I want to know is what was > changed/removed so that > I might be able to make it work. The ppp code. -- fg "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck manpage)
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
> > > I need to point out that even though 2.2.15-0.2mdk is a prekernel, my > winmodem > works fine with it. It stopped working around 2.2.15-0.24mdk, so > something was > either removed or changed. All I want to know is what was > changed/removed so that > I might be able to make it work. buy a real modem instead of a microsoft-only / proprietary only modem :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 6/2/00, 9:24:47 AM, "Riyad Kalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding > RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem: > > > > How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere > int he > > kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. > > > Riyad Kalla > > Java Programmer > > Game Enthusiast > > > -Original Message- > > From: Greg Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:12 AM > > To: Barry@Klein; Barry Klein > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > > > I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. > When I > > attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes > fine. > > - Original Message - > > From: Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Barry Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:13 PM > > Subject: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Klein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > winmodems, whatever they may be: they cannot be supported and will > > > > probably never be. > > > > > > > > You should have had many replies to this comment by now, > however, I am > > > > going to add mine. > > > > > > > > I have successfully used a Lucent 'winmodem' with Mandrake 7 (as > > > > supplied by PC Plus magazine of May 2000). The information > and driver > > > > was obtained from > > > > > > > > www.linmodems.org > > > > > > > > > > 1. this driver is binary only, so this is not what I call supported. > > > > > > 2. this same driver (I got one too) woes on 2.2.15 - therefore it's > not > > > supported on 7.1. > > > > > > losemodems are therefore not supported. > > > > > > -- > > > fg > > > > > > "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck > manpage) > > > > >
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
I need to point out that even though 2.2.15-0.2mdk is a prekernel, my winmodem works fine with it. It stopped working around 2.2.15-0.24mdk, so something was either removed or changed. All I want to know is what was changed/removed so that I might be able to make it work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 6/2/00, 9:24:47 AM, "Riyad Kalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem: > How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he > kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. > Riyad Kalla > Java Programmer > Game Enthusiast > -Original Message- > From: Greg Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:12 AM > To: Barry@Klein; Barry Klein > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I > attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. > - Original Message - > From: Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Barry Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:13 PM > Subject: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Klein wrote: > > > > > > > > winmodems, whatever they may be: they cannot be supported and will > > > probably never be. > > > > > > You should have had many replies to this comment by now, however, I am > > > going to add mine. > > > > > > I have successfully used a Lucent 'winmodem' with Mandrake 7 (as > > > supplied by PC Plus magazine of May 2000). The information and driver > > > was obtained from > > > > > > www.linmodems.org > > > > > > > 1. this driver is binary only, so this is not what I call supported. > > > > 2. this same driver (I got one too) woes on 2.2.15 - therefore it's not > > supported on 7.1. > > > > losemodems are therefore not supported. > > > > -- > > fg > > > > "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck manpage) > >
Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
- Original Message - From: "Riyad Kalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he > kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. > Cooler heads prevailed. Besides, they probably viewed it as a challenge. Hoyt
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
> > > I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I > attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. what you get for using some no-source-code-proprietary crap :(
RE: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
How are you using a win modem? I thought I remmebr reading somewhere int he kernel that "Winmodem Support: NEVER" or something to that extent. Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: Greg Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:12 AM To: Barry@Klein; Barry Klein Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. - Original Message - From: Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Barry Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Klein wrote: > > > > > winmodems, whatever they may be: they cannot be supported and will > > probably never be. > > > > You should have had many replies to this comment by now, however, I am > > going to add mine. > > > > I have successfully used a Lucent 'winmodem' with Mandrake 7 (as > > supplied by PC Plus magazine of May 2000). The information and driver > > was obtained from > > > > www.linmodems.org > > > > 1. this driver is binary only, so this is not what I call supported. > > 2. this same driver (I got one too) woes on 2.2.15 - therefore it's not > supported on 7.1. > > losemodems are therefore not supported. > > -- > fg > > "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck manpage) >
Re: [Cooker] Re: winmodem
I am also experiencing problems with a Lucent Winmodem and 2.2.15. When I attempt to dial, it says there is no dial tone, yet it initializes fine. - Original Message - From: Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Barry Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: [Cooker] Re: winmodem > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Klein wrote: > > > > > winmodems, whatever they may be: they cannot be supported and will > > probably never be. > > > > You should have had many replies to this comment by now, however, I am > > going to add mine. > > > > I have successfully used a Lucent 'winmodem' with Mandrake 7 (as > > supplied by PC Plus magazine of May 2000). The information and driver > > was obtained from > > > > www.linmodems.org > > > > 1. this driver is binary only, so this is not what I call supported. > > 2. this same driver (I got one too) woes on 2.2.15 - therefore it's not > supported on 7.1. > > losemodems are therefore not supported. > > -- > fg > > "You can tune a filesystem but you can't tuna fish" (HP/UX' fsck manpage) >
