Re: [Cooker] What about a new distribution mode ?
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 07:04:17PM +0100, Saint-Michel Laurent wrote: * wait one more couple of days to squizze the last bugs that apeears with the final rush and then transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. I was under the impression that some things do change from the GPL cds to the commercial ones. At least there's been discussion about a fix being done for the commercial cds for cups. ? -- Warly
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for me it sounds really a good idea. after downloading and installing iso version, if i know that the boxed version will fix some errors i met, i'll buy it:) Hello cookers, What about a new mode of Mandrake Linux distribution mode : - Now : we have a 3 stages of validation (QA process) for the distribution : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and, I think, the transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. - Proposal : why not add a step at the end following this pattern : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and make available on the FTP site the GPL cds * wait one more couple of days to squizze the last bugs that apeears with the final rush and then transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. This way has some big advantages : - the boxed version could be more stable. - the 3 CDs are for internet people and not the average people who could wait a little more to have their box. - no more offficial update just after the launch of the boxed version. - a more professionnal approch (less on the bleeding edge, more safe you are) - you will be more covered by the media (one article for the GPL CDs, one for the box version) - You could do a two distribution ways : * sell the GPL CDs without _any_ stuff (including books, ...) for people who want to be the first. * sell the boxed version a few weeks after with the corrected version nd the books, the support, ... People who use the first version will have to update their distribution when the boxed version is ready via internet, that's all. Please ask if I am not clear enough. Bye, Laurent -- Penser pour un bon nombre de femmes est plutot un accident heureux qu'un etat permanent. E.Stern --- Envoy
Re: [Cooker] What about a new distribution mode ?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 07:04:17PM +0100, Saint-Michel Laurent wrote: * wait one more couple of days to squizze the last bugs that apeears with the final rush and then transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. I was under the impression that some things do change from the GPL cds to the commercial ones. At least there's been discussion about a fix being done for the commercial cds for cups. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for me it sounds really a good idea. after downloading and installing iso version, if i know that the boxed version will fix some errors i met, i'll buy it:) Hello cookers, What about a new mode of Mandrake Linux distribution mode : - Now : we have a 3 stages of validation (QA process) for the distribution : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and, I think, the transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. - Proposal : why not add a step at the end following this pattern : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and make available on the FTP site the GPL cds * wait one more couple of days to squizze the last bugs that apeears with the final rush and then transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. This way has some big advantages : - the boxed version could be more stable. - the 3 CDs are for internet people and not the average people who could wait a little more to have their box. - no more offficial update just after the launch of the boxed version. - a more professionnal approch (less on the bleeding edge, more safe you are) - you will be more covered by the media (one article for the GPL CDs, one for the box version) - You could do a two distribution ways : * sell the GPL CDs without _any_ stuff (including books, ...) for people who want to be the first. * sell the boxed version a few weeks after with the corrected version nd the books, the support, ... People who use the first version will have to update their distribution when the boxed version is ready via internet, that's all. Please ask if I am not clear enough. Bye, Laurent -- Penser pour un bon nombre de femmes est plutot un accident heureux qu'un etat permanent. E.Stern --- Envoy The problem is that it is _NOT_ a couple of days. Testing the bugfixes is necessary lest they have side effects that bite us in the butt after release. That is why the final week will never see small bugfixes, only release critical ones. For example, a new kernel made during that week might pass Cerberus, but it would still have to be used a while to check other things and unanticipated side effects. Remember 8.1 with a late addition of iptables? It broke internet connection sharing on reboot, which was a large source of support requests, expensive out of all proportion to its significance. Still, it might be a good idea to schedule this in, but look at longer than a couple of days with a deep freeze in effect. Civileme
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You said : It's more than a couple of day ! But in the beta and RC phase we only have a couple of day to test and you put the other series out in a week. If you're able to do so in the beta stage why not in the marketing phase ? Denis B. --- civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for me it sounds really a good idea. after downloading and installing iso version, if i know that the boxed version will fix some errors i met, i'll buy it:) Hello cookers, What about a new mode of Mandrake Linux distribution mode : - Now : we have a 3 stages of validation (QA process) for the distribution : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and, I think, the transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. - Proposal : why not add a step at the end following this pattern : * One two or three betas after the cooker work. * One, two or maybe three release candidate with a deep freeze in cooker tree * The final step is the announce (on that ever media) and make available on the FTP site the GPL cds * wait one more couple of days to squizze the last bugs that apeears with the final rush and then transfert of the final master to the printing packaging departement + the mirroring to the ftp sites. This way has some big advantages : - the boxed version could be more stable. - the 3 CDs are for internet people and not the average people who could wait a little more to have their box. - no more offficial update just after the launch of the boxed version. - a more professionnal approch (less on the bleeding edge, more safe you are) - you will be more covered by the media (one article for the GPL CDs, one for the box version) - You could do a two distribution ways : * sell the GPL CDs without _any_ stuff (including books, ...) for people who want to be the first. * sell the boxed version a few weeks after with the corrected version nd the books, the support, ... People who use the first version will have to update their distribution when the boxed version is ready via internet, that's all. Please ask if I am not clear enough. Bye, Laurent -- Penser pour un bon nombre de femmes est plutot un accident heureux qu'un etat permanent. E.Stern --- Envoy The problem is that it is _NOT_ a couple of days. Testing the bugfixes is necessary lest they have side effects that bite us in the butt after release. That is why the final week will never see small bugfixes, only release critical ones. For example, a new kernel made during that week might pass Cerberus, but it would still have to be used a while to check other things and unanticipated side effects. Remember 8.1 with a late addition of iptables? It broke internet connection sharing on reboot, which was a large source of support requests, expensive out of all proportion to its significance. Still, it might be a good idea to schedule this in, but look at longer than a couple of days with a deep freeze in effect. Civileme __ Obtenez votre adresse @yahoo.ca gratuite et en français ! courriel.yahoo.ca
