Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-10 Thread SHadowX

On Sunday 10 December 2000 05:02, you wrote:
> Vadim Plessky wrote:
--snip--
> >  7 ??? 2000 06:03, Zeljko Vukman ???:
> > P.S. I have working QT 2.2.2 binary rpms for LM 7.2, and (god!) it is
> > i686 built. (not  *default* i586)
> > If somebody is interested - let me know.  Binary has bigger size then
> > RPMs created by Chris. /don't know why; if you know why - let me know ;-/
--snip--
>
> Vadim,
> I would be VERY interested in getting copies of the spec files for both
> qt-2.2.2 and KDE 2.0.1.  I've already downloaded the source for all but
> I prefer to build the rpms myself (I'm not really enamored of the idea
> of using -ffast-math with and optimization level of 3)  Also the CPU I
> have is a K6-2 450MHz.  Would it be possible to post the spec files
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> Arnold Troeger

I rebuilt the cooker SRPMS of qt-2.2.2 and there is no problems, so I see no 
reason to build a completely new SRPM just for LM 7.2.

SHadowX




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-10 Thread Vadim Plessky

Sunday 10 December 2000 04:02, ?? :
|   Vadim Plessky wrote:
|
|   Vadim,
|   I would be VERY interested in getting copies of the spec files for both
|   qt-2.2.2 and KDE 2.0.1.  I've already downloaded the source for all but
|   I prefer to build the rpms myself (I'm not really enamored of the idea
|   of using -ffast-math with and optimization level of 3)  Also the CPU I
|   have is a K6-2 450MHz.  Would it be possible to post the spec files
|   somewhere?
|
|   Thanks and best regards,
|   Arnold Troeger

I used standard SRPMS prepared by Chris (before he swicthed to his new job!)
If Chris doesn't mind, I can post it.  Chris?
Hopefully, spec files are MUCH less then binaries.  :-)
Unfortunately, my provider allows me only 30MB of space on server, and my KDE 
site together with htmltests already took some portion of it.
 And, they do not allow .zip and .mp3 files to be placed on server.
But, rpm has different extension, I will try today  :-)

As about AMD-specific builds. I was asking about it several times.
It looks like we will have them when gcc 3.0 *final* arrives.
I can't afford to install Cooker on my machine, so I am still sticked to gcc 
2.95 and LM 7.2.
 
By the way, why you don't want to use 
-ffast-math 
and 
-optimization level of 3 ?
  
I am not so familiar with gcc, so any advise can be helpful.
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-09 Thread Arnold Troeger

Vadim Plessky wrote:
> 
>  7 ??? 2000 06:03, Zeljko Vukman ???:
> |   On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
> |   > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> |   > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This
> |   > > > is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users
> |   > > > of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake
> |   > > > update facility.
> |   > >
> |   > > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1
> |   > > for Mandrake
> |   > > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
> |   > > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
> |   >
> |   > I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!
> |   > Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...
> |   > Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
> |   > (to tell the truth I didn't even try)
> |
> |   You will compile yourself when you choose to compile Kde2.0.1.
> |   He, he..
> |   Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will
> | be available for users of Mandrake 7.2.
> |   I compiled myself when I had to compile final Kde-2.0.1. It took 24
> | hours. I was totally compiled after that experience.
> 
> Do you have now binary RPMs (or compiled from tar.gz)?
> If you have binary RPMs for LM 7.2, may be, we can make them public on some
> ftp server?
> Finally, we can put them on RPMFIND.net, why not?  Just mark them as
> "Builder: LM Fan Club; Distribution: Linux Mandrake 7.2"
> 
> As I already said, it's much better to use KDE 2.1 ... when it's available,
> and not to use KDE 2.0.1. Unfortunately, KDE 2.1 is not in Release condition
> yet.
> 
> P.S. I have working QT 2.2.2 binary rpms for LM 7.2, and (god!) it is i686
> built. (not  *default* i586)
> If somebody is interested - let me know.  Binary has bigger size then RPMs
> created by Chris. /don't know why; if you know why - let me know ;-/
> 
> I can built i586 binary as well, if there is an interest. It just 35 minutes
> on my Pentium III box.
> To my mind, you should update to QT 2.2.2 even if you use KDE 2.0 Release
> from LM 7.2.  And, QT 2.2.3 is very close...
> 
> --
> 
> Vadim Plessky
> http://kde2.newmail.ru  (English)
> http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
> Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it!
> http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html

Vadim,
I would be VERY interested in getting copies of the spec files for both
qt-2.2.2 and KDE 2.0.1.  I've already downloaded the source for all but
I prefer to build the rpms myself (I'm not really enamored of the idea
of using -ffast-math with and optimization level of 3)  Also the CPU I
have is a K6-2 450MHz.  Would it be possible to post the spec files
somewhere?  

Thanks and best regards,
Arnold Troeger




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update? (cool, thanks Christopher)

2000-12-09 Thread Zeljko Vukman

On Saturday 09 December 2000 20:03, you wrote:
> on 12/7/00 2:41 PM, Christopher Molnar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Guys, please give them a few more days! They are working on it, I've been
> > told by my manager. The packagers on the project have not worked with
> > kde2 that often before (remember I was doing the packaging) and it is
> > taking a little longer.
>
> Great news, and thanks for the positive update - so where do those nasty
> rumors get started that Mandrake won't be making those available?
>
> Thanks, again.
>
> Harry

Same place, as above.




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update? (cool, thanksChristopher)

2000-12-09 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)

on 12/7/00 2:41 PM, Christopher Molnar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Guys, please give them a few more days! They are working on it, I've been
> told by my manager. The packagers on the project have not worked with kde2
> that often before (remember I was doing the packaging) and it is taking a
> little longer. 

Great news, and thanks for the positive update - so where do those nasty
rumors get started that Mandrake won't be making those available?

Thanks, again.

Harry





Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-09 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)

on 12/7/00 3:15 AM, Vadim Plessky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> |   Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will
> | be available for users of Mandrake 7.2.

How charming - have they given a reason as to why?

Harry





Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-09 Thread Leon Brooks

> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > ++
> >
> > You have been infected with the Linux Virus!
> >
> > This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version of Linux,
> > please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at random and then
> > forward this message to everyone in your address book.
> >
> > Thank you for your participation.
> >
> > ++

Lin wrote:
> Infected by Linux virus? ...but I am running on Microsoft windows right
> now... with McAfee antivirus software... does it like cross platform
> infection?

$#^%$#%$$# Outlook users... READ THE SECOND LINE OF THE MESSAGE, LIN!

It's a joke, all right?

While you're there, please:

1. CHOP OUT ANY TEXT THAT'S NOT RELEVENT, DON'T QUOTE THE WHOLE ~^%%^$%^$ THING!

2. PUT YOUR REPLY NEAR AND AFTER THE BIT YOU'RE REPLYING TO (IE IN CONTEXT)

These simple steps will make your e-mail much smaller (faster) and more
readable.

-- 
Fortune crookie: couldn't open (null) - Bad address




RE: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-08 Thread Steve Wray

I guess wine or dosemu could be infected...

> Infected by Linux virus? ...but I am running on Microsoft windows right
> now... with McAfee antivirus software... does it like cross platform
> infection?
>
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
>
> > Does it really take that much time and effort? I am assuming it
> is packaged
> > pretty much the same way as KDE 2.0. Am I wrong? Where is a
> good resource on
> > learning how to package something?
> >
> >
> > Zeljko Vukman wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote:
> > > > How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that
> Caldera has
> > > > rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0.
> SuSe has for
> > > > like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake
> has a stupid
> > > > readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well,
> that's great and
> > > > totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
> > > > incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an
> > > > upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?
> > >
> > > I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many
> > > employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did
> > > a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that.
> > > And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't
> feel like
> > > they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users
> happy because
> > > of Kde2 bugs.
> >
> > --
> >
> ++
> >
> > You have been infected with the Linux Virus!
> >
> > This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version
> of Linux,
> > please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at
> random and then
> > forward this message to everyone in your address book.
> >
> > Thank you for your participation.
> >
> >
> ++
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>





Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Lin

Infected by Linux virus? ...but I am running on Microsoft windows right
now... with McAfee antivirus software... does it like cross platform
infection?  

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:

> Does it really take that much time and effort? I am assuming it is packaged
> pretty much the same way as KDE 2.0. Am I wrong? Where is a good resource on
> learning how to package something?
> 
> 
> Zeljko Vukman wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote:
> > > How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has
> > > rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for
> > > like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid
> > > readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and
> > > totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
> > > incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an
> > > upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?
> >
> > I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many
> > employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did
> > a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that.
> > And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't feel like
> > they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users happy because
> > of Kde2 bugs.
> 
> --
> ++
> 
> You have been infected with the Linux Virus!
> 
> This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version of Linux,
> please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at random and then
> forward this message to everyone in your address book.
> 
> Thank you for your participation.
> 
> ++
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Daniel Tabuenca

Does it really take that much time and effort? I am assuming it is packaged
pretty much the same way as KDE 2.0. Am I wrong? Where is a good resource on
learning how to package something?


Zeljko Vukman wrote:

> On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote:
> > How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has
> > rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for
> > like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid
> > readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and
> > totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
> > incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an
> > upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?
>
> I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many
> employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did
> a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that.
> And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't feel like
> they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users happy because
> of Kde2 bugs.

--
++

You have been infected with the Linux Virus!

This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version of Linux,
please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at random and then
forward this message to everyone in your address book.

Thank you for your participation.

++







Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher Molnar

Guys, please give them a few more days! They are working on it, I've been 
told by my manager. The packagers on the project have not worked with kde2 
that often before (remember I was doing the packaging) and it is taking a 
little longer. 

-Chris

On Thursday 07 December 2000 17:22, you wrote:
> On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote:
> > How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has
> > rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for
> > like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid
> > readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and
> > totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
> > incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributi

ons have an
> > upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?
>
> I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many
> employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did
> a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that.
> And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't feel like
> they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users happy because
> of Kde2 bugs.




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Zeljko Vukman

On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote:
> How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has
> rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for
> like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid
> readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and
> totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
> incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an
> upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?

I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many 
employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did
a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that.
And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't feel like
they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users happy because
of Kde2 bugs.




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Daniel Tabuenca

How hard can this be? If  I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has
rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for
like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid
readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and
totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely
incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an
upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't?

Zeljko Vukman wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a
> > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> > facility.
> >
> 
> You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1 for Mandrake
> 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
> incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
> 
> Regards,




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Vadim Plessky

 7 ??? 2000 06:46, Steve Wray ???:
|   I'm starting to become of the opinion that
|   when one is installing distributions
|   such as mandrake and redhat, one should pay close
|   attention to software that one is *particularly* keen on.

you are right, indeed!

|   One should *not* install these through rpm
|   rather one should COMPILE FROM SOURCE!!
|

IMHO, problem is when SRPM is prepared not-correctly.
The best, to my mind, is to take Source RPMs and build binaries from them.
It's the easiest way, and you get "transportable" binary after all.
rpm --rebuild automatically makes a lot of work for you
(unpacking, ./configure, make, make install ... even cleaning disk after all;
why it just doesn't make fresh orange juice [orangesaft] while compiling?.. )
 
|   I've had no end of troubles with (various bits of) KDE2
|   and its next to impossible to update *just* those bits
|   (eg kdemultimedia) without making a mess...
|
Yes, I agree with you.
This is not normal - to have 10 varaiations of KDE for one OS, Linux.

Problem is that many Linux distributions do not include necessary libraries, 
or include *buggy* ones. Libpng 1.0.8 was buggy on SuSE and not working with 
KDE 2.
Linux Mandrake 7.2 has  Libpng 1.0.8 but KDE2 is working ok.
May be, it's because libpng is built into kdesupport?  :-))
 That's not good, to my mind.
If there is a system libpng, all programs from distribution (including KDE2) 
should use system [shared] library.

|   On a redhat 7 machine I forcibly removed all the kde packages
|   and compiled the whole kde2 set from scratch.
|
|   The result? BLISS!

Probably you used *final* source, KDE 2.0 release.
In September and beg. of October, KDE2 was not compiling for RedHat.

-- 

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Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Vadim Plessky

 7 ??? 2000 06:03, Zeljko Vukman ???:
|   On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
|   > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
|   > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This
|   > > > is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users
|   > > > of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake
|   > > > update facility.
|   > >
|   > > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1
|   > > for Mandrake
|   > > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
|   > > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
|   >
|   > I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!
|   > Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...
|   > Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
|   > (to tell the truth I didn't even try)
|
|   You will compile yourself when you choose to compile Kde2.0.1.
|   He, he..
|   Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will
| be available for users of Mandrake 7.2.
|   I compiled myself when I had to compile final Kde-2.0.1. It took 24
| hours. I was totally compiled after that experience.

Do you have now binary RPMs (or compiled from tar.gz)?
If you have binary RPMs for LM 7.2, may be, we can make them public on some 
ftp server?
Finally, we can put them on RPMFIND.net, why not?  Just mark them as 
"Builder: LM Fan Club; Distribution: Linux Mandrake 7.2"

As I already said, it's much better to use KDE 2.1 ... when it's available, 
and not to use KDE 2.0.1. Unfortunately, KDE 2.1 is not in Release condition 
yet.

P.S. I have working QT 2.2.2 binary rpms for LM 7.2, and (god!) it is i686 
built. (not  *default* i586)
If somebody is interested - let me know.  Binary has bigger size then RPMs 
created by Chris. /don't know why; if you know why - let me know ;-/

I can built i586 binary as well, if there is an interest. It just 35 minutes 
on my Pentium III box.
To my mind, you should update to QT 2.2.2 even if you use KDE 2.0 Release 
from LM 7.2.  And, QT 2.2.3 is very close...
 
-- 

Vadim Plessky
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http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it!
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Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-07 Thread Vadim Plessky

 7 ??? 2000 06:22, Christopher Molnar ???:
|   On Wednesday 06 December 2000 22:03, Zeljko Vukman wrote:
|   > On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
|   > > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
|   > > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This
|   > > > > is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current
|   > > > > users of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the
|   > > > > mandrake update facility.
|
|   Should have waited. It is being worked on.
|
|   BTW all those downloading from nebsllc.com , those are not 2.0.1 they are
|   from the HEAD cvs path. When you "upgrade" to 2.0.1 you will loose
| features.
|
|   look at the source dates. They are from before 2.0.1 was announced.
| Sorry.

IMHO, the most important now is to get KDE pre-2.1 working, and add 
*so-needed*  features still missing in it.
QT 2.2.3 is very close now, I personally would recommend  everybody to wait 
QT 2.2.3 until planning serious upgrades. XF 4.0.1[f,g,h,...] is moving and 
moving forward. 
XF 4.0.2 will have Render Extension with Anti-Aliased fonts, which is 
break-through for font rendering & general visual quality.
To my mind, both XF 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 should be available to Linux Mandrake 
7.2 users. (I mean, it's rather difficult to upgrade to Cooker from LM 7.2; 
there should be binary RPMs compiled with gcc 2.95.2 and available for 
download; may be, we should have short beta-testing period for them as well, 
before putting it to public-download directory)  
|
|   -Chris

-- 

Vadim Plessky
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http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
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Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread salane

actually they are pre 2.1 


On Wednesday 06 December 2000 22:22, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 December 2000 22:03, Zeljko Vukman wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This
> > > > > is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users
> > > > > of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake
> > > > > update facility.
>
> Should have waited. It is being worked on.
>
> BTW all those downloading from nebsllc.com , those are not 2.0.1 they are
> from the HEAD cvs path. When you "upgrade" to 2.0.1 you will loose
> features.
>
> look at the source dates. They are from before 2.0.1 was announced. Sorry.
>
> -Chris




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread Christopher Molnar

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 22:03, Zeljko Vukman wrote:
> On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is
> > > > a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > > > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> > > > facility.

Should have waited. It is being worked on.

BTW all those downloading from nebsllc.com , those are not 2.0.1 they are 
from the HEAD cvs path. When you "upgrade" to 2.0.1 you will loose features.

look at the source dates. They are from before 2.0.1 was announced. Sorry.

-Chris




RE: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread Steve Wray

I'm starting to become of the opinion that
when one is installing distributions
such as mandrake and redhat, one should pay close
attention to software that one is *particularly* keen on.

One should *not* install these through rpm
rather one should COMPILE FROM SOURCE!!

I've had no end of troubles with (various bits of) KDE2
and its next to impossible to update *just* those bits
(eg kdemultimedia) without making a mess...

I compiled kdemultimedia from source on mandrake 7.2
after several programs from that package were causing
problems.

After the compilation those programs still cause trouble...
more in fact.

On a redhat 7 machine I forcibly removed all the kde packages
and compiled the whole kde2 set from scratch.

The result? BLISS!

Everything works (for a change)


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zeljko Vukman
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 4:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
>
>
> On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE
> 2.0.1. This is a
> > > > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > > > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the
> mandrake update
> > > > facility.
> > >
> > > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1
> > > for Mandrake
> > > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
> > > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
> >
> > I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!
> > Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...
> > Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
> > (to tell the truth I didn't even try)
> >
>
> You will compile yourself when you choose to compile Kde2.0.1.
> He, he..
> Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will be
> available for users of Mandrake 7.2.
> I compiled myself when I had to compile final Kde-2.0.1. It took
> 24 hours. I
> was totally compiled after that experience.
>





Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread Zeljko Vukman

On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a
> > > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> > > facility.
> >
> > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1
> > for Mandrake
> > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
> > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
>
> I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!
> Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...
> Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
> (to tell the truth I didn't even try)
>

You will compile yourself when you choose to compile Kde2.0.1.
He, he.. 
Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will be
available for users of Mandrake 7.2.
I compiled myself when I had to compile final Kde-2.0.1. It took 24 hours. I
was totally compiled after that experience.




Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread salane

nebsllc.com

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 20:51, you wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a
> > > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> > > facility.
> >
> > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1
> > for Mandrake
> > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary
> > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.
>
> I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!
>
> Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...
>
> Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
> (to tell the truth I didn't even try)
>
> 8-)




RE: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread Steve Wray

> On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a
> > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> > facility.
> >
> 
> You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1 
> for Mandrake 
> 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary 
> incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.


I am not sourcecode! I am a free man!

Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet...

Sorry but I really couldn't resist that
(to tell the truth I didn't even try)

8-)






Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?

2000-12-06 Thread Zeljko Vukman

On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a
> BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of
> Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update
> facility.
>

You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1 for Mandrake 
7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary 
incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself.

Regards,