Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:49, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > le mar 29-01-2002 à 01:30, Bryan Paxton a écrit : > > > One final note, is mandrakesoft ever going to provide it's own repos of > > updates? Bandwidth is expensive yes, but look at the redhat route. I > > would certainly pay 5 dollars a month for a service like that (I already > > pay for redcarpet). The security and reliability of co-mirrors is > > ridiculous. Time to take the next step, don't ya think? > > yes. For example thanks to MandrakeClub. Pay for update of "important" > packages ( KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, etc ... ) and this with high bandwith > and for at least one year ( have the ability to upgrade part of my 8.2 > to be up to date in one/two years ). > At the long time mdksoft will earn more money. ( 1¤/month is nothing but > during 24 months it's 24 ¤ ). So if mdkclub provide good valuable > services and high quality service and update option, pay 10¤/month may > be a reality ( 10 * 24 = 240 ¤ ). Put a limit to the contract ( > subscribe for at least one year ) with good price for new box you may > want to buy instead of upgrade just key packages and I can see a very > good way to have earnings. > Some phone operator provide this kind of service ( one year minimum for > contract + valuable services like music/reservation/ ) in order to > make more money with 3G technology I actually forget that this new service existed. How is access to the "high bandwidth" servers provided? The one year contract, seems compulsory, am I right? If so, that just kills the whole ideal of such a service, IMHO. People don't want to buy into something they may not be using in 6 months. (Note: This isn't the proper place for such discussion, but where else?) -- Bryan Paxton Public PGP key: http://www.deadhorse.net/bpaxton.gpg
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
le mar 29-01-2002 à 01:30, Bryan Paxton a écrit : > One final note, is mandrakesoft ever going to provide it's own repos of > updates? Bandwidth is expensive yes, but look at the redhat route. I > would certainly pay 5 dollars a month for a service like that (I already > pay for redcarpet). The security and reliability of co-mirrors is > ridiculous. Time to take the next step, don't ya think? yes. For example thanks to MandrakeClub. Pay for update of "important" packages ( KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, etc ... ) and this with high bandwith and for at least one year ( have the ability to upgrade part of my 8.2 to be up to date in one/two years ). At the long time mdksoft will earn more money. ( 1¤/month is nothing but during 24 months it's 24 ¤ ). So if mdkclub provide good valuable services and high quality service and update option, pay 10¤/month may be a reality ( 10 * 24 = 240 ¤ ). Put a limit to the contract ( subscribe for at least one year ) with good price for new box you may want to buy instead of upgrade just key packages and I can see a very good way to have earnings. Some phone operator provide this kind of service ( one year minimum for contract + valuable services like music/reservation/ ) in order to make more money with 3G technology -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - If you marry a man who cheats on his wife, you'll be married to a man who cheats on his wife. -- Ann Landers
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 17:42, J.A. Magallon wrote: > > On 20020128 Bryan Paxton wrote: > >On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 14:00, Christopher Samuel wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> I'd just like to add my voice to the requests to update the APT package > >> listings for Cooker - I started playing with apt-get before Xmas and managed > >> to upgrade my 8.1 box to Cooker, but nothing since the 24th. > >> > > > > I vote second for that, I'm very interested in trying out apt-get for > >RPM. From what I've heard, it seems to work without a hitch (as much as > >any software can). > > > > I don't. Instead of trying to integrate an alien in mdk, why could not > time be spent in building a curses version of rpmdrake, for example ? > Make mdk tools better than apt, not just clone apt for cooker. > It's about choice... Diversity can be a good thing, it often times pushes on project ahead of the other, and vice versa. But let's have a real life example: Mandrakesoft produces SNF (Single Network Firewall), I can only assume that their intentions are to take this further. This being a firewall oriented target, suppose the admin simply wants to strip the GUI stuff away, and have it a bare bones system (as any firewall should really be). If he or she was to choose rpmdrake, well that ruins the plans for stripping the system. Now, I know what you're going to say, "Well what about urpmi, the backend? It's a CLI, why not use it?" And my response to that would be that urpmi has a barage (only in opposite of apt) of dependencies... [evil7@sQa evil7]$ rpm -qpR urpmi-3.2-2mdk.i586.rpm eject webfetch perl-DateManip >= 5.40 perl-gettext rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1 rpmtools >= 4.0-5mdk /bin/sh /bin/sh rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 bash perl-base [evil7@sQa evil7]$ rpm -qpR apt-0.3.19cnc51-1mdk.i586.rpm rpm >= 3.0.5 /bin/sh /bin/sh rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 ld-linux.so.2 libapt-pkg.so.3.1 libbz2.so.1 libc.so.6 libm.so.6 libpopt.so.0 librpm-4.0.3.so librpmdb-4.0.3.so librpmio-4.0.3.so libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 libz.so.1 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) You can plainly see the difference, (libapt-pkg.so.3.1 is provided by apt). Minimalization of software is one of the key elements to security. So, in that respect, which one would be the better choice? Furthermore, I've never set up a firewall or any other security related system that had perl installed on it, it's just bad news (more options for an attacker). But take a desktop user, they dont' wanna fool around with the CLI at all, in general, and in general at first. In that case, urpmi and rpmdrake would probably make more sense for them. Sadly, both sets of software fail to do the impossible, making package management on Linux easy (yet robust). This is where the development of RPM comes in, and new packaging systems (hasn't been one yet that is better though IMHO). One final note, is mandrakesoft ever going to provide it's own repos of updates? Bandwidth is expensive yes, but look at the redhat route. I would certainly pay 5 dollars a month for a service like that (I already pay for redcarpet). The security and reliability of co-mirrors is ridiculous. Time to take the next step, don't ya think? That's my 50 dollars err 2 cents : ) -- Bryan Paxton Public PGP key: http://www.deadhorse.net/bpaxton.gpg
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
> I don't. Instead of trying to integrate an alien in mdk, why could not > time be spent in building a curses version of rpmdrake, for example ? > Make mdk tools better than apt, not just clone apt for cooker. There is not work needed to be done to apt itself to have it work with mandrake. The only thing needed is to keep the package lists on the server updated. I agree that work needs to be done on rpmdrake/urpmi but I also think we should keep apt available. It's all about choice! I personally prefer apt but I know there are those that prefer urpmi. It can't be that hard to allow both to function. There is no need to repress one or the other. Let there be choice. :) Michael
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
I second that motion. I would love to have a console-based version of rpmdrake for playing with my machine remotely. Mike J.A. Magallon wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> On 20020128 Bryan Paxton wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 14:00, Christopher Samuel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hi folks,I'd just like to add my voice to the requests to update the APT package listings for Cooker - I started playing with apt-get before Xmas and managed to upgrade my 8.1 box to Cooker, but nothing since the 24th. I vote second for that, I'm very interested in trying out apt-get forRPM. From what I've heard, it seems to work without a hitch (as much asany software can). I don't. Instead of trying to integrate an alien in mdk, why could nottime be spent in building a curses version of rpmdrake, for example ?Make mdk tools better than apt, not just clone apt for cooker.
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
On 20020128 Bryan Paxton wrote: >On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 14:00, Christopher Samuel wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I'd just like to add my voice to the requests to update the APT package >> listings for Cooker - I started playing with apt-get before Xmas and managed >> to upgrade my 8.1 box to Cooker, but nothing since the 24th. >> > > I vote second for that, I'm very interested in trying out apt-get for >RPM. From what I've heard, it seems to work without a hitch (as much as >any software can). > I don't. Instead of trying to integrate an alien in mdk, why could not time be spent in building a curses version of rpmdrake, for example ? Make mdk tools better than apt, not just clone apt for cooker. -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.18-pre7-slb #2 SMP Mon Jan 28 10:54:36 CET 2002 i686
Re: [Cooker] apt-get (again)
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 14:00, Christopher Samuel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hi folks, > > I'd just like to add my voice to the requests to update the APT package > listings for Cooker - I started playing with apt-get before Xmas and managed > to upgrade my 8.1 box to Cooker, but nothing since the 24th. > I vote second for that, I'm very interested in trying out apt-get for RPM. From what I've heard, it seems to work without a hitch (as much as any software can). -- Bryan Paxton Public PGP key: http://www.deadhorse.net/bpaxton.gpg
Re: [Cooker] Apt-get: Does it work?
Giles, goto Control Panel>System>Login Manager. There you can pick what you want shown at login. --- Spence Giles Hamlin wrote: > > Hi, > > After spending a day going through my packages clearing up all the > problems on my system with unmet dependencies etc, I finally got my RPM > base to a point where apt-get stopped complaining every time I ran it. > > I tried a apt-get update and I got the "will not be authenticated." > error message that a lot of people have been getting lately. My question > is this: I really wanted to try and use apt-get to go from beta 1 to > beta 2 - is it naive of me to think this is possible, and if it is > possible, am I using the right command? This is my first experience > using apt-get. > > If anyone could also solve this little puzzler for me I would be very > grateful - since installing beta 1, I now have a ton of phantom users in > my login menu - these users are named after startup services, but when > I go into userdrake are not listed to delete. Anyone know how to get rid > of these? > > Giles > > -- > Get $$$ just for being online > No clicking - no limits - no catch > http://www.DesktopDollars.com/default.asp?id=Gilesx
Re: [Cooker] apt-get dist-upgrade Is Obsolete
On 17 Mar 2001 23:22:38 +0400, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Wow, i'm impressed. > And if i ask now for a coffee-making feature... :-) ? http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc2324.html You asked for it ;0) -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] apt-get dist-upgrade Is Obsolete
Le 2001.03.17 22:45:11 +0400, Pixel a écrit : > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > It's great, but i would like a configurable feature to exclude some > > packages of being automatically upgraded. For instance, i always build > my > > own kernel from sources, and i don't want generic kernel package to be > > installed just for satisfying dependencies. > > pixel@leia:/etc/urpmi>cat skip.list > kernel22 > kernel > icewm-light > basesystem > ghostscript-module-X Wow, i'm impressed. And if i ask now for a coffee-making feature... :-) ? -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] apt-get dist-upgrade Is Obsolete
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > It's great, but i would like a configurable feature to exclude some > packages of being automatically upgraded. For instance, i always build my > own kernel from sources, and i don't want generic kernel package to be > installed just for satisfying dependencies. pixel@leia:/etc/urpmi>cat skip.list kernel22 kernel icewm-light basesystem ghostscript-module-X (don't ask me why basesystem and ghostscript is there :)
Re: [Cooker] apt-get dist-upgrade Is Obsolete
Le 2001.03.16 22:33:24 +0400, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : > A bit provocative subject, and a subtile reference to famous "Linux Is > Obsolete" thread on comp.os.minix (see this web for example: > http://www.dina.dk/~abraham/Linus_vs_Tanenbaum.html). > > > To try to calm down all people that promote apt-get (and especially > apt-get dist-upgrade), I would like them to try one of the latest > features > of urpmi: --auto-select; this does upgrade a system as apt-get can do it > with dist-upgrade. OK, i just tested it. It's great, but i would like a configurable feature to exclude some packages of being automatically upgraded. For instance, i always build my own kernel from sources, and i don't want generic kernel package to be installed just for satisfying dependencies. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
r j wrote: > --- Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun Mar 04, 2001 at 02:30:23PM -0800, r j wrote: >> >>> Yea, rpmfind has not updated in 5+ mo. Actually there is a recent >>> snapshot of conectiva SRPMS from ftp.debian.org with >>> apt-0.3.19cnc37-1cl.src.rpm . It looks like it is being updated ~ >>> every week which is very active devel!! >>> >>> Any mdk RPM GURU wanna drop this into the pot? It might add an >>> interesting flavor.:) >> >> Will be in there shortly... > > > Great! Thanks. > My download should be done about that time too... :) > > rj A new apt would be nice but as I said earlier, if the mirrors apt files don't improve theirs not much use for apt as it downloads several packages for me that are already installed, causing a bit of confusion for apt and more work for me. Joakim Bodin
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
--- Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun Mar 04, 2001 at 02:30:23PM -0800, r j wrote: > > > Yea, rpmfind has not updated in 5+ mo. Actually there is a recent > > snapshot of conectiva SRPMS from ftp.debian.org with > > apt-0.3.19cnc37-1cl.src.rpm . It looks like it is being updated ~ > > every week which is very active devel!! > > > > Any mdk RPM GURU wanna drop this into the pot? It might add an > > interesting flavor.:) > > Will be in there shortly... Great! Thanks. My download should be done about that time too... :) rj > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net > 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD > - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org > - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com > > Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 16 days 5 hours 43 minutes. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
On Sun Mar 04, 2001 at 02:30:23PM -0800, r j wrote: > Yea, rpmfind has not updated in 5+ mo. Actually there is a recent > snapshot of conectiva SRPMS from ftp.debian.org with > apt-0.3.19cnc37-1cl.src.rpm . It looks like it is being updated ~ > every week which is very active devel!! > > Any mdk RPM GURU wanna drop this into the pot? It might add an > interesting flavor.:) Will be in there shortly... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 16 days 5 hours 43 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
--- Joakim Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > andre wrote: > > >> > ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/conectiva/EXPERIMENTAL/apt/apt-0.3.19cnc9-1cl.src.rpm > >> A port of Debian's apt tools for RPM based distributions. > >> Or at least for Conectiva. > >> Under development, use at your own risk!!! > >> > >> No updates made for ~ 6mo! It either works good or is very > broken. > >> Build it and _experiment_ with it if you want. Let us know. > >> > >> rj > > > > > > > ftp://fjordland.nl.linux.org/pub/conectiva/6.0/cd1/conectiva/RPMS//apt-0.3.19cnc24-2cl.i386.rpm > > 22 Nov. And it is there main update tool so i guess it works. Yea, rpmfind has not updated in 5+ mo. Actually there is a recent snapshot of conectiva SRPMS from ftp.debian.org with apt-0.3.19cnc37-1cl.src.rpm . It looks like it is being updated ~ every week which is very active devel!! Any mdk RPM GURU wanna drop this into the pot? It might add an interesting flavor.:) rj > >> === > >> --- Joakim Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while > >>> rpmdrake > >>> doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking far > >>> from > >>> finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 > release > >>> and > >>> it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I want urpmi > > >>> working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that I > want to > >>> > >>> use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I started > >>> looking > >>> around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm packages I'm > wondering > >>> > >>> when they'll show up :) > >>> > >>> Joakim Bodin > >>> > yeah, apt itself seems to work fine, the biggest problem right now > seems > to be that the RPMS files that holds the rpm list for apt includes > old/duplicate rpm packages makeing apt-get a bit confused. Another > thing > is that the "hold back" feature isn't implemented yet and cause me > some > grief installing kernel-headers, dev and MAKEDEV packages when I'm > compiling my own kernel and use devfs. > > Joakim Bodin > > >>> > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
andre wrote: >> ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/conectiva/EXPERIMENTAL/apt/apt-0.3.19cnc9-1cl.src.rpm >> A port of Debian's apt tools for RPM based distributions. >> Or at least for Conectiva. >> Under development, use at your own risk!!! >> >> No updates made for ~ 6mo! It either works good or is very broken. >> Build it and _experiment_ with it if you want. Let us know. >> >> rj > > > >ftp://fjordland.nl.linux.org/pub/conectiva/6.0/cd1/conectiva/RPMS//apt-0.3.19cnc24-2cl.i386.rpm > 22 Nov. And it is there main update tool so i guess it works. > >> === >> --- Joakim Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while >>> rpmdrake >>> doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking far >>> from >>> finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 release >>> and >>> it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I want urpmi >>> working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that I want to >>> >>> use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I started >>> looking >>> around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm packages I'm wondering >>> >>> when they'll show up :) >>> >>> Joakim Bodin >>> yeah, apt itself seems to work fine, the biggest problem right now seems to be that the RPMS files that holds the rpm list for apt includes old/duplicate rpm packages makeing apt-get a bit confused. Another thing is that the "hold back" feature isn't implemented yet and cause me some grief installing kernel-headers, dev and MAKEDEV packages when I'm compiling my own kernel and use devfs. Joakim Bodin >>>
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
> > ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/conectiva/EXPERIMENTAL/apt/apt-0.3.19cnc9-1cl.src.rpm > A port of Debian's apt tools for RPM based distributions. > Or at least for Conectiva. > Under development, use at your own risk!!! > > No updates made for ~ 6mo! It either works good or is very broken. > Build it and _experiment_ with it if you want. Let us know. > > rj ftp://fjordland.nl.linux.org/pub/conectiva/6.0/cd1/conectiva/RPMS//apt-0.3.19cnc24-2cl.i386.rpm 22 Nov. And it is there main update tool so i guess it works. > === > --- Joakim Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while > > rpmdrake > > doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking far > > from > > finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 release > > and > > it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I want urpmi > > working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that I want to > > > > use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I started > > looking > > around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm packages I'm wondering > > > > when they'll show up :) > > > > Joakim Bodin > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/conectiva/EXPERIMENTAL/apt/apt-0.3.19cnc9-1cl.src.rpm A port of Debian's apt tools for RPM based distributions. Or at least for Conectiva. Under development, use at your own risk!!! No updates made for ~ 6mo! It either works good or is very broken. Build it and _experiment_ with it if you want. Let us know. rj === --- Joakim Bodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while > rpmdrake > doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking far > from > finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 release > and > it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I want urpmi > working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that I want to > > use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I started > looking > around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm packages I'm wondering > > when they'll show up :) > > Joakim Bodin > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
> > As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while rpmdrake > doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking far from > finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 release and > it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I want urpmi > working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that I want to > use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I started looking > around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm packages I'm wondering > when they'll show up :) > > Joakim Bodin > > > Look in contrib
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
Joakim Bodin wrote: > As one noticing that MandrakeUpdate is falling to pieces while > rpmdrake doesn't work much at all as MandrakeUpdate did, urpmi looking > far from finished etc. I just read an "feature list" on the Mdk 8.0 > release and it mentions "apt-get" as an experimental, as much as I > want urpmi working correct apt-get just seems more like the thing that > I want to use, hearing all debian users bragg about it :) . So I > started looking around the mirrors and not finding any apt rpm > packages I'm wondering when they'll show up :) > > Joakim Bodin > > No problem, found apt in the contrib section, the apt RPMS files seems to have a couple of duplicates in them in the mirrors I have used. Joakim Bodin
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
On Thursday 04 January 2001 15:41, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > > Pixel, > > I hear rumors about apt-get and cooker. How do i get it. What do i > > have to do to install. > > install apt and put this > > rpm > ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i >586 Mandrake cooker > > in /etc/apt/sources.list Interesting, I'll have to try this (but with my own favorite mirror). Any chance apt will make it into the official distro? -- Trebor A. Rude [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #89308 http://counter.li.org/
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > > > > > Pixel, > > > I hear rumors about apt-get and cooker. How do i get it. What do i have to do to >install. > > > > install apt and put this > > > > rpm ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 >Mandrake cooker > > > > in /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > > and were do i find the apt rpm > > contrib, were is my brain
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > > > Pixel, > > I hear rumors about apt-get and cooker. How do i get it. What do i have to do to >install. > > install apt and put this > > rpm ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 >Mandrake cooker > > in /etc/apt/sources.list > > and were do i find the apt rpm
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > Pixel, > I hear rumors about apt-get and cooker. How do i get it. What do i have to do to >install. install apt and put this rpm ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 Mandrake cooker in /etc/apt/sources.list
Re: [Cooker] apt-get
man urpmi On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, you wrote: > When are we going to see an apt-get version for Mandrake? > ok , rpm and using ftp switches exists but sucks in comparison , > Mandrakeupdate is ok but if you're running a server without X?
Re: [Cooker] Apt-get for RPM
Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > i'm currently trying conectiva's apt, but can't get it to do anything. > > i'm also trying to download it, but their server is dead slow and i can't find > any mirrors :-( lftp ftp.conectiva.com:/pub/conectiva/iso> get cl59-1-2912.iso `cl59-1-2912.iso' at 233065472 (35%) 103b/s eta:6d3h [Receiving data] didn't even know lftp switched to days :) update: completly stalled, eta:15d :'-( so if someone find a mirror somewhere it may help...
Re: [Cooker] Apt-get for RPM
Thomas Poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just read www.lwn.net and I saw that conectiva.com hast just started to > hack apt-get for working with RPM. I use a lot urpmi and apt-get on a > Debian system and a mix of two will be the top. I also see that Yellow Dog > has created the same tool in Python. i've tried to have a look at yellow dog's stuff some time ago. Far from usable it was i'd say. i'm currently trying conectiva's apt, but can't get it to do anything. i'm also trying to download it, but their server is dead slow and i can't find any mirrors :-( anyway, i think there is a solution to all this mess, it's to do the gendepslist (or now genbasefiles) at package building time. for example, for package perl-GTK, we get: pixel@leia:~>rpm -qpR /RPMS/perl-GTK-0.7003-4mdk.i586.rpm ld-linux.so.2 libX11.so.6 libXext.so.6 libXi.so.6 libc.so.6 libdl.so.2 libgdk-1.2.so.0 libglib-1.2.so.0 libgmodule-1.2.so.0 libgtk-1.2.so.0 libm.so.6 /usr/bin/perl libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) well, at build time, we can resolve those requires to something more precise: pixel@leia:~>rpm -qp --mayrequires /RPMS/perl-GTK-0.7003-4mdk.i586.rpm glibc XFree86-libs XFree86-libs XFree86-libs glibc glibc gtk+ glib glib gtk+ glibc perl-base glibc then, for resolving dependencies you do: i need libX11.so.6 which is not provided yet, hell, the mayrequires tag tells me XFree86-libs may provide it. the urpmi/apt looks if XFree86-libs really provides it (it may not if it has changed)... this solution is quite simple to implement and to use. It keeps the flexibility of "requires file" (which debian doesn't have), but doesn't the drawback :) cu Pixel.
