Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
Use shorewall or something similar to adjust the firewall. Tom On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 21:45, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wanted us to know: This brings up an interesting question. My ISP blocks all outgoing port 25 connections as well as incoming. Is there anyway to use a local SMTP server in this situation, or won't it be blocked when it forwards the mail on? My work just implimented the same block, so it would be nice to know if there is a way around it. I'm assuming that you meant block all outgoing port 25 unless it is to the ISP mail server. Just configure Postfix to use the ISP mail server as a smart host. Then postfix will never try to deliver directly to who it's addressed, instead it will relay through your ISP. Regards...Todd - -- Are there any plans to allow different levels of protection in the firewall? Right now the iptables rules are too strict to function properly on a windows network without manually adjusting the rules. --Cooker ML Oct 2002 Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/OHD8IBT1264ScBURArWAAJ4vCYfqzEj2snsG0xGYq1j7qEfG9wCfWEoH 2Y5Nxuhs82urUV/8i47hlnQ= =8S+w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best Regards Thomas Spuhler All e-mail sent from this site has been scanned for viruses. This E-mail has a digital signature attached for proof of its origin. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
On Monday 11 August 2003 10:24 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : How are they getting my personal IP when I'm connecting through a firewall? Cause they are in the mail enveloppe headers. Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? It can't, it wouldn't be RFC compliant otherwise. This seem to go against what I thought was one of the reasons for having a firewall in the first place. I don't understand why email needs to send the specific machine IP address. If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. Can't, ISP limitations. -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : On Monday 11 August 2003 10:24 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : How are they getting my personal IP when I'm connecting through a firewall? Cause they are in the mail enveloppe headers. Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? It can't, it wouldn't be RFC compliant otherwise. This seem to go against what I thought was one of the reasons for having a firewall in the first place. I don't understand why email needs to send the specific machine IP address. You're confusing. A firewall works essentially at transport level (IP), whereas you're dealing here with application level (SMTP) problems. When you want to masquerade your IP adresses on the web, the easiest way is to use an HTTP proxy, not a firewall. The same goes for mail, the easiest way is to use a SMTP gateway. If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. Can't, ISP limitations. Your ISP can block external connections on port 25, but can't prevent you from listening your own network. -- Guillaume Rousse In any human endeavor, once you've exhausted all possibilities and fail, there will be one solution, simple and obvious, highly visible to everyone else -- SNAFU Equations (JB's Scholastic Laws) n°5 This brings up an interesting question. My ISP blocks all outgoing port 25 connections as well as incoming. Is there anyway to use a local SMTP server in this situation, or won't it be blocked when it forwards the mail on? My work just implimented the same block, so it would be nice to know if there is a way around it. Just wondering... Thanks Scott
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : How are they getting my personal IP when I'm connecting through a firewall? Cause they are in the mail enveloppe headers. Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? It can't, it wouldn't be RFC compliant otherwise. If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. -- Guillaume Rousse No matter how early you arrive, you'll always get there too late. The best buy of the day always take place in front of you. -- Ferguson's Observation's Concerning Flea Markets
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
On Mon Aug 11 11:31 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote: If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. Can't, ISP limitations. If you just set the SMTP server to accept connections from localhost, there is no way the ISP can know... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Fly By Night - Best I Can Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 14:37:00 up 6 days, 23:55, 11 users, load average: 0.37, 0.35, 0.19
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wanted us to know: This brings up an interesting question. My ISP blocks all outgoing port 25 connections as well as incoming. Is there anyway to use a local SMTP server in this situation, or won't it be blocked when it forwards the mail on? My work just implimented the same block, so it would be nice to know if there is a way around it. I'm assuming that you meant block all outgoing port 25 unless it is to the ISP mail server. Just configure Postfix to use the ISP mail server as a smart host. Then postfix will never try to deliver directly to who it's addressed, instead it will relay through your ISP. Regards... Todd - -- Are there any plans to allow different levels of protection in the firewall? Right now the iptables rules are too strict to function properly on a windows network without manually adjusting the rules. --Cooker ML Oct 2002 Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/OHD8IBT1264ScBURArWAAJ4vCYfqzEj2snsG0xGYq1j7qEfG9wCfWEoH 2Y5Nxuhs82urUV/8i47hlnQ= =8S+w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? It can't, it wouldn't be RFC compliant otherwise. If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. It's not entirely true. I had this problem when using local dns. Either use iptables to MASQ LAN with external IP or use only ISP dns in /etc/resolv.conf will solve the problem. At least that's what I did. -Larry
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
On Mon Aug 11 9:18 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote: Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? Yes. KMail is sending this information. Basically, it's the HELO part of an SMTP transaction, which is basically required by an SMTP transaction. It shouldn't be turned off; that would be a Bad Thing. KMail should probably be using something besides the IP (there are mailservers that will reject non-resolvable or non-FQDN hostnames). The output of hostname is probably a better option (though that would require working DNS). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Billy Joel - Glass Houses - I Don't Want to Be Alon Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 14:38:00 up 6 days, 23:56, 11 users, load average: 0.21, 0.30, 0.18
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : On Monday 11 August 2003 10:24 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Ken Thompson : How are they getting my personal IP when I'm connecting through a firewall? Cause they are in the mail enveloppe headers. Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? It can't, it wouldn't be RFC compliant otherwise. This seem to go against what I thought was one of the reasons for having a firewall in the first place. I don't understand why email needs to send the specific machine IP address. You're confusing. A firewall works essentially at transport level (IP), whereas you're dealing here with application level (SMTP) problems. When you want to masquerade your IP adresses on the web, the easiest way is to use an HTTP proxy, not a firewall. The same goes for mail, the easiest way is to use a SMTP gateway. If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. Can't, ISP limitations. Your ISP can block external connections on port 25, but can't prevent you from listening your own network. -- Guillaume Rousse In any human endeavor, once you've exhausted all possibilities and fail, there will be one solution, simple and obvious, highly visible to everyone else -- SNAFU Equations (JB's Scholastic Laws) n°5
Re: [Cooker] no install possible with the current cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please make an account on Mandrakesoft bugzilla and vote for bug 697 (and any others that are still unconfirmed and that you are also experiencing) Thanks, Sascha Noyes On Friday 20 December 2002 03:13 pm, Udo Weber wrote: Hi folks, I tryed to install cooker from a rsynced tree (several times rsynced without changes, so I believe there should nothing missing). After the Package Group Selection window I get following error: An error occurred error ordering package list: cannot open Requirename index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) An I'm back in the Package Group Selection Window. . Can anyone give me some hints how to resolve this or if this should be a bug in the cooker tree please correct this. Thanks Udo - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+A3aIgzJdfX+cTW8RAjylAJsFkZf7NcX/MHtHgXikVUPisnfOmQCfZJku QfCPHb9svApwBbUT3kuEkp4= =hYY1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] is it possible to have the 3 iso of mdk in a dvd iso?
On Friday 13 December 2002 11:23, francesco.melo wrote: i have dvd-r burner ... so for me and i think for other user it is better to have a single big iso in the mirror and burn it in a dvd-+r .. is it possible? thanks francesco Copy contents of CDs to a directory, and then run mkcd (in the misc directory) to create single large ISO. -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] is it possible to include this package in cooker ooodi
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Luis Alves wrote: OOodi provides an automated dictionary installer for the OpenOffice.org word processer. It uses GTK+ for the user interface and libcurl for automated download of selected dictionaries. What's wrong with: # urpmi myspell-dictionary or # urpmi myspell-en_GB ?? Of course, if you really want a gui, you can use rpmdrake. But, if you installed OO.o or mozilla-spellchecker, you should have been able to choose a dictionary. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to upgrade from Mdk 8.0 to cooker withurpmi?
On 19 Jul 2001, François Pons wrote:
{ The problem is that you need to upgrade urpmi and rpmtools first, there is a
{ problem managing new source with old source together when only one medium is
{ registered for new urpmi (because it get back depslist.ordered without
{ recomputing it, and old urpmi will not work).
Thanks! I'm now upgrading to Cooker.
Denis
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Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to upgrade from Mdk 8.0 to cooker with urpmi?
Denis Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to upgrade from 8.0 to Cooker. It seems that urpmi is the perfect tool for this job. So I first did urpmi.removedmedia -a. Then I added a cooker mirror: urpmi.addmedia sunet ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz Everything seems to be ok but when I try to install a new package I get the following error: [root@maniwaki i686]# urpmi abisuite package abisuite-0.9.0-0.pre20010714.3mdk.i586 is not found, ids=(987,987) unable to get source packages, aborting at /usr/bin/urpmi line 254. The problem is that you need to upgrade urpmi and rpmtools first, there is a problem managing new source with old source together when only one medium is registered for new urpmi (because it get back depslist.ordered without recomputing it, and old urpmi will not work). François.
Re: [Cooker] is this possible?
You installed and started all daemons possible? Abel Cheung On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Sarang Lakare wrote: on LM8.0. This is top's output when sorted by Memory [root@mc user]# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:899952 598644 301308 0 251752 216036 -/+ buffers/cache: 130856 769096 Swap: 1791208 01791208 [snip]
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
Steve Fox wrote: On 08 Mar 2001 14:10:09 -0800, r j wrote: I would like to see JFS too since it is an Open Source project( http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ ) and part of the Linux Technology Center(LTC). (What is LTC?: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-03/lw-03-vcontrol_1.html ) You do not want JFS yet. Even the developers say it is not ready for casual use. If they bring JFS up to the same level as it is on AIX I'll take it. As far as I'm concerned it's the best one out there. -randy
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Michèl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Eugenio Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ok, anyone that wants XFS in cooker raise your han..er keys! Several months ago we were asked what we wanted in cooker ... well, I want enterprise features, specifically XFS! Me :) Wonder if this process should be formalised, like having a top-10 most-wanted list... In case you did not know, it _was_ in the www.mandrakeforum.com, a couple of times. The last was only ~ a week ago. You should post there too. Civileme started the forum post( BETA 8.0 Advice ). If XFS has LOTS of comments, it will be apparant that it is desired. It is _not_ there now, which is not good if you folks really want it. I would like to see JFS too since it is an Open Source project( http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ ) and part of the Linux Technology Center(LTC). (What is LTC?: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-03/lw-03-vcontrol_1.html ) . Regards, rj === Michel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
On 08 Mar 2001 14:10:09 -0800, r j wrote: I would like to see JFS too since it is an Open Source project( http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ ) and part of the Linux Technology Center(LTC). (What is LTC?: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-03/lw-03-vcontrol_1.html ) You do not want JFS yet. Even the developers say it is not ready for casual use. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
I would like to see XFS in Mandrake 8.0 also. We need a good industrial grade journaling file system. ReiserFS may be really good, but the trust factor just isn't there. Including XFS would be a really wise move. It makes it much easier to get Mandrake into the datacenter. I don't believe JFS is ready for prime time use though, maybe for version 8.1 or 8.2. Terry r j wrote: --- Michl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Eugenio Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > > Ok, anyone that wants XFS in cooker raise your > > han..er keys! Several months ago > > we were asked what we wanted in cooker ... well, I > > want enterprise features, > > specifically XFS! > > > Me :) > Wonder if this process should be formalised, like > having a top-10 most-wanted list... In case you did not know, it _was_ in the www.mandrakeforum.com, a couple of times. The last was only ~ a week ago. You should post there too. Civileme started the forum post( BETA 8.0 Advice ). If XFS has LOTS of comments, it will be apparant that it is desired. It is _not_ there now, which is not good if you folks really want it. I would like to see JFS too since it is an Open Source project( http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ ) and part of the Linux Technology Center(LTC). (What is LTC?: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-03/lw-03-vcontrol_1.html ) . Regards, rj === > Michel > > > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Terry Nelms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Sr. Network Engineer nfusen, Inc. http://www.nfusen.com Voice: 601.939.4889 x109 Fax: 601.939.1848 "Accept no failure." begin:vcard n:Nelms;Terry tel;fax:601-939-1848 tel;work:601-939-4889 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.nfusen.com org:nfusen, Inc. version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Network Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;2506 Lakeland Drive=0D=0ASuite 603;Jackson;MS;39208;US x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Terry Nelms end:vcard
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Joakim Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking the same thing for a while now, I've been running xfs for 3-4 months now. I'll take a look at mandrakes installer and see if dropping in a xfs kernel. The xfsprogs rpm shouldn't be a large problem since they seem to be made for rh7.0 . Joakim Bodin That's splendid! Do keep us updated - will try to help if I can. Will be great if this can make it to Mandrake 8 - even as an unsupported option. Regards, Michel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
What other crypto patch can u expect? :) just found it under mandrake-devel/unsupported directory (kernel-*-2.4.0-5mdkcrypto.*) , but seems to be binary only :( Abel Cheung On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, r j wrote: Is that 'the' crypto patch from ftp.kerneli.org that allows one to encrypt the filesystem? me wanna the real thing; this will kick ms butt if it works. Great for laptops/portables, too.
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
I raise my legs! :D But only if the merging doesn't cause much pain.. otherwise hopefully this issue will be considered after 8.0. Abel Cheung On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Eugenio Diaz wrote: --- Michèl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone at Mandrake please? I pledge my money to buying a boxed set of Mandrake 8.0 if it includes XFS - seriously. (Having bought several of SuSE's releases, and one of RH's, I am not against spending real money on Linux if I deem it adds something nice) Ok, anyone that wants XFS in cooker raise your han..er keys! Several months ago we were asked what we wanted in cooker ... well, I want enterprise features, specifically XFS!
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Eugenio Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ok, anyone that wants XFS in cooker raise your han..er keys! Several months ago we were asked what we wanted in cooker ... well, I want enterprise features, specifically XFS! Me :) Wonder if this process should be formalised, like having a top-10 most-wanted list... Michel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
Michl Alexandre Salim wrote: --- Piranha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too, I like XFS! ;) Hey, by doing this can also build a good relationship with SGI! Mandrake will partner with SGI! It means you Mandrake guys appreciates the SGI guys' efforts! Then you guys can have more money $$$ !!! :-) Prana Eugenio Diaz wrote: --- Michl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? Me too. Me likes this. I doubt SGI has a lot of money to burn :p. Regarding a suggestion that I do it myself, I am afraid I am rather short of time currently. Perhaps sometime during the Easter break, but I must warn that I have never dabbled with Mandrake's installer before. Also, since the XFS-enabled kernel is currently a fork off the standard kernel tree, an installation with XFS would require not only a different kernel for booting the install process, but also a different kernel to install on the target, and the use of initrd (which I am not sure if Mandrake still uses, since the latest LILO/GRUB both support booting straight off ReiserFS partitions...) Someone at Mandrake please? I pledge my money to buying a boxed set of Mandrake 8.0 if it includes XFS - seriously. (Having bought several of SuSE's releases, and one of RH's, I am not against spending real money on Linux if I deem it adds something nice) Regards, Michel Salim I've been thinking the same thing for a while now, I've been running xfs for 3-4 months now. I'll take a look at mandrakes installer and see if dropping in a xfs kernel. The xfsprogs rpm shouldn't be a large problem since they seem to be made for rh7.0 . Joakim Bodin
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, if you have time, perhaps you can make a source RPM and put it into contrib to benefit others for now? I saw that a 2.4 kernel with crypto patch was already there. Probably those developers will reconsider Is that 'the' crypto patch from ftp.kerneli.org that allows one to encrypt the filesystem? me wanna the real thing; this will kick ms butt if it works. Great for laptops/portables, too. rj adding other FS support if they see that XFS works! Abel Cheung On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, [iso-8859-1] Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: Hello all, I have been trying out the SGI XFS filesystem (using SGI's XFS Installer for RH 7) and must say I am quite impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can already support Reiser, supporting XFS should be just a matter of having the proper tools (mkxfs etc.) and kernel modules, I suppose? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So sprach Michl Alexandre Salim am Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:28:24PM +: It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can What problems? Did I miss anything? Please tell me, so that I can be aware of this! You can read the entire discussion at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - not a major problem I believe, nothing a simple fsck won't fix. Michel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LINUX*. But I have another question though, does XFS patch modify handling of VFS directly in some way that other filesystems can't be usable anymore? If not, then maybe XFS can be a serious candidate for inclusion in future Mandrake releases. They included Reiserfs when it doesn't get so much attention as it do today.. then why not others? Abel Cheung I don't think it modifies the VFS handling - I have heard of problems running earlier ext3 with reiserfs, but not xfs and reiser. In fact even before reiser makes it to the standard kernel tree I've seen some people in the xfs mailing list patching reiserfs on top of xfs.. should be no problem with the latest xfs cvs then. Seems like Joakim's going to try it - good luck :) Michel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
mee too ! It would add weight to my argument when proposing Linux at work ... Jan On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Eugenio Diaz wrote: --- Michèl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone at Mandrake please? I pledge my money to buying a boxed set of Mandrake 8.0 if it includes XFS - seriously. (Having bought several of SuSE's releases, and one of RH's, I am not against spending real money on Linux if I deem it adds something nice) Ok, anyone that wants XFS in cooker raise your han..er keys! Several months ago we were asked what we wanted in cooker ... well, I want enterprise features, specifically XFS!
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
Yes, if you have time, perhaps you can make a source RPM and put it into contrib to benefit others for now? I saw that a 2.4 kernel with crypto patch was already there. Probably those developers will reconsider adding other FS support if they see that XFS works! Abel Cheung On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, [iso-8859-1] Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: Hello all, I have been trying out the SGI XFS filesystem (using SGI's XFS Installer for RH 7) and must say I am quite impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can already support Reiser, supporting XFS should be just a matter of having the proper tools (mkxfs etc.) and kernel modules, I suppose?
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Piranha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too, I like XFS! ;) Hey, by doing this can also build a good relationship with SGI! Mandrake will partner with SGI! It means you Mandrake guys appreciates the SGI guys' efforts! Then you guys can have more money $$$ !!! :-) Prana Eugenio Diaz wrote: --- Michl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? Me too. Me likes this. I doubt SGI has a lot of money to burn :p. Regarding a suggestion that I do it myself, I am afraid I am rather short of time currently. Perhaps sometime during the Easter break, but I must warn that I have never dabbled with Mandrake's installer before. Also, since the XFS-enabled kernel is currently a fork off the standard kernel tree, an installation with XFS would require not only a different kernel for booting the install process, but also a different kernel to install on the target, and the use of initrd (which I am not sure if Mandrake still uses, since the latest LILO/GRUB both support booting straight off ReiserFS partitions...) Someone at Mandrake please? I pledge my money to buying a boxed set of Mandrake 8.0 if it includes XFS - seriously. (Having bought several of SuSE's releases, and one of RH's, I am not against spending real money on Linux if I deem it adds something nice) Regards, Michel Salim Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
So sprach Michl Alexandre Salim am Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:28:24PM +: It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can What problems? Did I miss anything? Please tell me, so that I can be aware of this! Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 1 hour 17 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
So sprach Michl Alexandre Salim am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:29:57PM +: install on the target, and the use of initrd (which I am not sure if Mandrake still uses, since the latest LILO/GRUB both support booting straight off ReiserFS partitions...) Yes, of course they do - how else would you boot from SCSI if SCSI is (rightfully) not compiled into the kernel, but just available as a module? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 1 hour 19 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
Hmmm doubt if LM people will include it for now, since it will certainly need lots of time for debugging and complaining ( :P ) before prime time, and it's still less proven then reiserfs *UNDER LINUX*. But I have another question though, does XFS patch modify handling of VFS directly in some way that other filesystems can't be usable anymore? If not, then maybe XFS can be a serious candidate for inclusion in future Mandrake releases. They included Reiserfs when it doesn't get so much attention as it do today.. then why not others? Abel Cheung On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, [iso-8859-1] Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: I doubt SGI has a lot of money to burn :p. Regarding a suggestion that I do it myself, I am afraid I am rather short of time currently. Perhaps sometime during the Easter break, but I must warn that I have never dabbled with Mandrake's installer before. Also, since the XFS-enabled kernel is currently a fork off the standard kernel tree, an installation with XFS would require not only a different kernel for booting the install process, but also a different kernel to install on the target, and the use of initrd (which I am not sure if Mandrake still uses, since the latest LILO/GRUB both support booting straight off ReiserFS partitions...)
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
--- Michèl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been trying out the SGI XFS filesystem (using SGI's XFS Installer for RH 7) and must say I am quite impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can already support Reiser, supporting XFS should be just a matter of having the proper tools (mkxfs etc.) and kernel modules, I suppose? Perhaps not in the default image, but having this on a separate boot image would be terrific... Also, if one makes Reiser partitions from the installer, what version will be used - v1/3.5 or v2/3.6 ? If it is one or another, can I just create partitions manually in a terminal session and not have the installer tripping over? (Tried booting the RH Anaconda installer with a Reiser-enabled kernel and making + mounting my own reiser partition, and the installer just got sorely confused). Me too. Me likes this. = Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Is it possible to bundle XFS support?
Me too, I like XFS! ;) Hey, by doing this can also build a good relationship with SGI! Mandrake will partner with SGI! It means you Mandrake guys appreciates the SGI guys' efforts! Then you guys can have more money $$$ !!! :-) Prana Eugenio Diaz wrote: --- Michl Alexandre Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been trying out the SGI XFS filesystem (using SGI's XFS Installer for RH 7) and must say I am quite impressed by it. I wonder if XFS support can be included, perhaps in the next beta release? It would be a nice additional option, what with the recent strings of problems with using ReiserFS 3.6 on the 2.4 kernel series, and since the installer can already support Reiser, supporting XFS should be just a matter of having the proper tools (mkxfs etc.) and kernel modules, I suppose? Perhaps not in the default image, but having this on a separate boot image would be terrific... Also, if one makes Reiser partitions from the installer, what version will be used - v1/3.5 or v2/3.6 ? If it is one or another, can I just create partitions manually in a terminal session and not have the installer tripping over? (Tried booting the RH Anaconda installer with a Reiser-enabled kernel and making + mounting my own reiser partition, and the installer just got sorely confused). Me too. Me likes this. = Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3
Re: [Cooker] alternate download possible
Udo Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it is realy nice to see your anouncements for new updates in the cooker-distro. changelog mailing list ? But where can I download this ? The primary mirror ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS got no new package since yesterday 07-Dec-2000 20:04 there is a problem with mirror we currently fix. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] is it possible to get this list working as a newsgroup as well
jorge costa a écrit : It would be easier to follwow Not a newsgroup, but you can access list archive here : http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
RE: [Cooker] is it possible to get this list working as a newsgroup aswell
I knew but they don't follow the meaning of online because they are a litle delayed. Thanks -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Em nome de Guillaume Rousse Enviada: segunda-feira, 11 de Setembro de 2000 13:32 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: [Cooker] is it possible to get this list working as a newsgroup as well jorge costa a écrit : It would be easier to follwow Not a newsgroup, but you can access list archive here : http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
