Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
Todd Lyons wrote: O'Riordan, Kevin wrote on Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:08:46PM +0100 : I tried using the snd-via686 module, but sound is very very choppy when using esound or the xine alsa module. Sound is okay when using arts through alsa, or oss emulation. Sound is also okay with the via82cxxx module. Am running latest cooker with 2.4.19-9mdk kernel. I recall seeing someone say that setting in the XF86Config-4 file the following made a difference in sound working properly for them: Option PciRetry true You could serve as a guinea pi^W^W baseline if you would try adding this option. I also use via686. I just added this option to my XF86Config-4 file (currently Mandrake 8.2 box), running this box for few hours now, and the cranked sound with esd seems to go away. (Previously I got choppiness sometimes when Mozilla draw its contents and I played through esd). So at the very least, I think it won't hurt to add it. Michal Bukovjan
RE: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
I tried using the snd-via686 module, but sound is very very choppy when using esound or the xine alsa module. Sound is okay when using arts through alsa, or oss emulation. Sound is also okay with the via82cxxx module. Am running latest cooker with 2.4.19-9mdk kernel. -Original Message- From: Reinout van Schouwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2002 23:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips Hi, Well I be it works! I have an onboard via sound chip that uses the via82cXXX and ac97 kernel modules and sound has always been problematic especially games like RTCW. Now it works fine. It doesn't seem to affect other sound Of course, you could also just ditch the via82cxxx driver and use the ALSA snd-via686 module instead.. :-) -- Reinout van SchouwenArtificial Intelligence student email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile phone: +31-6-44360778 GPG public key http://www.cs.vu.nl/~reinout/reinout.asc
RE: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 10:08, O'Riordan, Kevin wrote: I tried using the snd-via686 module, but sound is very very choppy when using esound or the xine alsa module. Sound is okay when using arts through alsa, or oss emulation. Sound is also okay with the via82cxxx module. Am running latest cooker with 2.4.19-9mdk kernel. I also tried the ALSA snd-via686 module, and it refused to load, giving all manner of bad symbol errors. Nothing I could do would make it load. Switched back to the via82cxxx module, and sound works just fine again. MSI MS-6330 K7T Turbo 2 system board. -- Brad Felmey
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 12:29:29PM -0500, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 10:08, O'Riordan, Kevin wrote: I tried using the snd-via686 module, but sound is very very choppy when using esound or the xine alsa module. Sound is okay when using arts through alsa, or oss emulation. Sound is also okay with the via82cxxx module. Am running latest cooker with 2.4.19-9mdk kernel. I also tried the ALSA snd-via686 module, and it refused to load, giving all manner of bad symbol errors. Nothing I could do would make it load. Switched back to the via82cxxx module, and sound works just fine again. What did you do to load the module ? insmod of course won't work, modprobe should resolve missing symbols. It would be better you'd post the exact error message and what you did. Also: Have you tried switching to snd-via686 with draksound ? Warning: It only shows the driver to which you can switch. I have via sound on board chipset as well and it works without any problems here. (Sony Vaio FX301 laptop with AMD Duron). MSI MS-6330 K7T Turbo 2 system board. -- Brad Felmey Regards, Reinhard Katzmann -- Software-Engineer, Developer for Embedded Devices Project: Pertergrin, a role playing game system GnuPG Public Key available on request msg74948/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 12:42, Reinhard Katzmann wrote: What did you do to load the module ? Tried both modprobe and (after modprobe failed) insmod. Also: Have you tried switching to snd-via686 with draksound ? Yes, also did not work. # lspcidrake -v snip via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1106 device:3058 subv:1462 subd:3300) snip
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
Hi Brad, On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 01:41:48PM -0500, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 12:42, Reinhard Katzmann wrote: What did you do to load the module ? Tried both modprobe and (after modprobe failed) insmod. Also: Have you tried switching to snd-via686 with draksound ? Yes, also did not work. # lspcidrake -v snip via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1106 device:3058 subv:1462 subd:3300) snip My one looke like this: via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1106 device:3058 subv:104d subd:80e3) So it seems we have different devices (at least according to subv and subd). Also I have to admin that I did not yet update to rc2 from beta4 as I'm waiting for my new hard drive to come. Tonight is too late, but if the drive does not arrive tomorrow, I'll try a custom 9mdk kernel on my laptop. Regards, Reinhard Katzmann -- Software-Engineer, Developer for Embedded Devices Project: Pertergrin, a role playing game system GnuPG Public Key available on request msg74975/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
O'Riordan, Kevin wrote on Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:08:46PM +0100 : I tried using the snd-via686 module, but sound is very very choppy when using esound or the xine alsa module. Sound is okay when using arts through alsa, or oss emulation. Sound is also okay with the via82cxxx module. Am running latest cooker with 2.4.19-9mdk kernel. I recall seeing someone say that setting in the XF86Config-4 file the following made a difference in sound working properly for them: Option PciRetry true You could serve as a guinea pi^W^W baseline if you would try adding this option. Looking...Here is the original message. Hmmm, it's this same thread :( so you've probably already seen it and it didn't work. But doesn't hurt ot post it again. Good luck ---Forwarded message Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:25:26 -0400 From: Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips There is a problem which exists on many systems with VIA 82C686 sound chips where X causes the sound to become crackly. This behavior can be fixed by adding the following to the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Option PciRetry true Would it be possible for DrakX to, if it detects the presence of this sound chip, to make this addition? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way out is the way in... Linux 2.4.19-4mdklrr 2:15am up 1 day, 4:46, 7 users, load average: 0.53, 0.29, 0.20 -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-9mdk msg75018/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 05:34, allen wrote: Right now I cannot install RC1 into VMWare for a variety of odd reasons that I hope are being addressed. Oooh, yah, why do you bury us in such overwhelmingly specific detail? (-: Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a problem which exists on many systems with VIA 82C686 sound chips where X causes the sound to become crackly. This behavior can be fixed by adding the following to the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Option PciRetry true Would it be possible for DrakX to, if it detects the presence of this sound chip, to make this addition? it could be. but: - are you sure it *can't* break anything, esp. that it works for every video card - do you have a web page explaining this - i'd rather have this added only for a sound card/video card combination
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Saturday 07 September 2002 01:25 am, Levi Ramsey wrote: There is a problem which exists on many systems with VIA 82C686 sound chips where X causes the sound to become crackly. This behavior can be fixed by adding the following to the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Option PciRetry true Would it be possible for DrakX to, if it detects the presence of this sound chip, to make this addition? Well I be it works! I have an onboard via sound chip that uses the via82cXXX and ac97 kernel modules and sound has always been problematic especially games like RTCW. Now it works fine. It doesn't seem to affect other sound card such as the Soundblaster Live etc... Maybe a few more testers could try it and see how it works. Anyway thank you so much Levi, you just made my day, now back to RTCW.
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pixel wrote: | Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | |There is a problem which exists on many systems with VIA 82C686 sound chips |where X causes the sound to become crackly. This behavior can be fixed |by adding the following to the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: | | Option PciRetry true | |Would it be possible for DrakX to, if it detects the presence of this |sound chip, to make this addition? | | | it could be. but: | | - are you sure it *can't* break anything, esp. that it works for every | video card | | - do you have a web page explaining this | | - i'd rather have this added only for a sound card/video card | combination | I'll try to give this a shot on the Compaq Presario 700 series of laptops to potentially confirm the Via Twister chips (Savage 4 core), they exibit the crackling sound and have that same chip. Unfortunately, I can't get to this right away. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj16bdoACgkQUMkt1ZRwL1M52ACdGEF95CoTbZeHHg1qNA3NIIks dVEAoLdlDEazTJJ9kHGmuDjdCtnrtegp =HP3u -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Saturday 07 September 2002 04:21 pm, Richard Houser wrote: Pixel wrote: Option PciRetry true I'll try to give this a shot on the Compaq Presario 700 series of laptops to potentially confirm the Via Twister chips (Savage 4 core), they exibit the crackling sound and have that same chip. Unfortunately, I can't get to this right away. FYI I have a Presario 715, AMD, 1.4Ghz, 512MB RAM now. I would be happy to try this. However, I will have to be able to install into VMWare, and it would have to be known to work that way. Right now I cannot install RC1 into VMWare for a variety of odd reasons that I hope are being addressed. ? -AEF
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
On Sat Sep 07 12:26 +0200, Pixel wrote: Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a problem which exists on many systems with VIA 82C686 sound chips where X causes the sound to become crackly. This behavior can be fixed by adding the following to the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Option PciRetry true Would it be possible for DrakX to, if it detects the presence of this sound chip, to make this addition? it could be. but: - are you sure it *can't* break anything, esp. that it works for every video card - do you have a web page explaining this - i'd rather have this added only for a sound card/video card combination I picked this up from question 3.2 of the Mini ITX FAQ at http://www.mini-itx.com/faq.asp The answer to that question only mentions the OSS driver (via82cxxx_audio); whether this has any effect on the ALSA drivers is an open question. I added the line to my configuration and it seems to fix the crackling problems. Oddly enough, I'm using XFree86's nv driver, which does not list itself as supporting this option. However, it does not seem to have adverse effects on system stability. So it seems to work in the nv/via82cxxx case. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way out is the way in... Linux 2.4.19-4mdklrr 5:30pm up 1 day, 20:01, 7 users, load average: 0.17, 0.11, 0.15
Re: [Cooker] suggestion for systems with VIA sound chips
Hi, Well I be it works! I have an onboard via sound chip that uses the via82cXXX and ac97 kernel modules and sound has always been problematic especially games like RTCW. Now it works fine. It doesn't seem to affect other sound Of course, you could also just ditch the via82cxxx driver and use the ALSA snd-via686 module instead.. :-) -- Reinout van SchouwenArtificial Intelligence student email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile phone: +31-6-44360778 GPG public key http://www.cs.vu.nl/~reinout/reinout.asc
