Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD
How about including Star office 5.X on it? That is a free program, but not sure if Sun would agree to it. This is not really free [for example, we pay royalties for each printed CD]. Fair, that's the way it is... For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD Installation and CD Extension] OK, what however could be provided is some kind of "rpm-wrapper" for these "closed software" programs. Maybe some kind of mechanism can be made which performs the following tasks: - An icon show up in a "to be installed closed software menu" - When you click the icon, the software will be downloaded from the software makers site ($un Micro$y$tem$ in this case) and an RPM will be made installed. - Key is that the rpm which is made is "taylored" for mandrake. Which means that the menu items are in place, the files are placed in a work-able place on the disk (according to the FS standards that mandrake lives to), etc. etc. etc. Goal of this mechanism will be: - Not needing to distribute this software with the CD's (royalties) - User performs "task" (one mouse-click) to download install the software. - User is provided with the "comfort" of a Mandrake packaged RPM. - Updates of new "closed software" packages (acroread, staroffice, WP??) can be provided with this mechanism. I know it goes far... Stefan van der Eijk
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD Installation and CD Extension] OK, what however could be provided is some kind of "rpm-wrapper" for these "closed software" programs. Maybe some kind of mechanism can be made which performs the following tasks: - An icon show up in a "to be installed closed software menu" - When you click the icon, the software will be downloaded from the software makers site ($un Micro$y$tem$ in this case) and an RPM will be made installed. - Key is that the rpm which is made is "taylored" for mandrake. Which means that the menu items are in place, the files are placed in a work-able place on the disk (according to the FS standards that mandrake lives to), etc. etc. etc. so we would have to work hard for "tayloring" closed apps, eating some time that could be used to package free software apps? I'm not sure there will be very much Mandrakesoft employees to do that.. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
RE: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD
Ok, I can understand the download to avoid royalty fees, but that is a very large download for one program. Last time i downloaded SO 5.2B it was around 70M...and of course it was not on a mirror so even on a cable modem it took forever. If I go out and spend 50-100$ for an distribution, I expect it to have all the latest stable versions, and not have to download programs like SO. Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan van der Eijk Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD How about including Star office 5.X on it? That is a free program, but not sure if Sun would agree to it. This is not really free [for example, we pay royalties for each printed CD]. Fair, that's the way it is... For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD Installation and CD Extension] OK, what however could be provided is some kind of "rpm-wrapper" for these "closed software" programs. Maybe some kind of mechanism can be made which performs the following tasks: - An icon show up in a "to be installed closed software menu" - When you click the icon, the software will be downloaded from the software makers site ($un Micro$y$tem$ in this case) and an RPM will be made installed. - Key is that the rpm which is made is "taylored" for mandrake. Which means that the menu items are in place, the files are placed in a work-able place on the disk (according to the FS standards that mandrake lives to), etc. etc. etc. Goal of this mechanism will be: - Not needing to distribute this software with the CD's (royalties) - User performs "task" (one mouse-click) to download install the software. - User is provided with the "comfort" of a Mandrake packaged RPM. - Updates of new "closed software" packages (acroread, staroffice, WP??) can be provided with this mechanism. I know it goes far... Stefan van der Eijk
crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD
Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wish List: Since the distro is getting so big and we have some space free on the 2nd disk, would it be legal and or possible to set all the crypto stuff on it and somehow encrypt it with a password or disclaimer prior to using it? It is not legal. However, the law is changing real fast by now, and Europe and the USA are changing their positions. We certainly will be able to ship the crypto stuff for next version, once the law has been voted and positively analyzed. How about including Star office 5.X on it? That is a free program, but not sure if Sun would agree to it. This is not really free [for example, we pay royalties for each printed CD]. For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD Installation and CD Extension] -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second CD
BS''D Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD Installation and CD Extension] ... which is a very good decision Daniel.