Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker]kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andi Payn wrote: > On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:02, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > >>I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) > > > I'm sure Buchan will explain why samba is going to be necessary for Windows to > finally die-- # net rpc vampire ;-) (with some preparation). > but even after that happens, samba may well survive. SMB/CIFS, > when done right, is a good filesharing system. The only real problem with it > is that all of Microsoft's implementations so far stink--but samba 3 does not > stink. > But, to be able to claim this, we would need the cifs filesystem driver in-kernel (which would give us symlinks and named pipes and potentially working chown/chmod etc across cifs mounts). Would also give us >2GB file support on cifs mounts. > Samba is not only useful for transitioning LANs from Windows to linux, it's > also useful for all kinds of multi-platform LANs. I can't think of another > filesharing system that runs on so many *nix platforms that doesn't block in > the kernel on network reads, handles user-level shares easily (with nice > GUIs, even), allows hierarchical networks, can use LDAP or various other > techniques for authentication, etc. And that works on every version of > Windows, and Mac OS X, and (with cheap add-on software) MacOS 9. > The fact that samba is a great implementation, and that MS OS's are ubiquitous has nothing to do with SMB/CIFS being a good protocol ;-). NFSv4 or OpenAFS etc may be better solutions. BTW, we hardly use user shares anymore, since we implemented a really reliable (currently Mandrake 9.0/samba-2.2.8a with ldap) file server, and migrated all data there, and made provision for automatically creating/cleaning directories for people to temporarily share data. Very few users now have rights to create shares, and files are easier to locate, and all backed up (amanda) and all accessible to us linux users without having to resort to smbfs (nfs). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/FGWlrJK6UGDSBKcRApCgAKCJqwoXqjp79+fQY4pe92JO0ODJmQCgikGz jTnqIKMqfzuxRNrECSWuRhE= =mKx1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:02, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) I'm sure Buchan will explain why samba is going to be necessary for Windows to finally die--but even after that happens, samba may well survive. SMB/CIFS, when done right, is a good filesharing system. The only real problem with it is that all of Microsoft's implementations so far stink--but samba 3 does not stink. Samba is not only useful for transitioning LANs from Windows to linux, it's also useful for all kinds of multi-platform LANs. I can't think of another filesharing system that runs on so many *nix platforms that doesn't block in the kernel on network reads, handles user-level shares easily (with nice GUIs, even), allows hierarchical networks, can use LDAP or various other techniques for authentication, etc. And that works on every version of Windows, and Mac OS X, and (with cheap add-on software) MacOS 9.
Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Maybe now I can go back to spending my limited time fixing B> *real* bugs in samba? I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker]kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >>"B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > B> Maybe now I can go back to spending my limited time fixing > B> *real* bugs in samba? > > I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) > samba3 is a critical piece of software that will allow people to migrate from Window NT infrastructure to linux-based infrastructure, probably with about the same effort as migrating to AD, losing some features of AD at present, but with significant licensing savings. This (linux on the servers) will make it easier to migrate desktops to linux (since you can have a real NFS server for free). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/FFC9rJK6UGDSBKcRAt5iAJ4xTgGClPvHZ18mfAexdGTl8YdVRACeKnZM cbjmo/ASCUnppfxO3RbXQ4M= =MAiw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
