Re: kernel updates

2001-09-16 Thread Ben Reser

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:53:12AM +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> Well :) :

Show off. :P

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Re: some 8.0 final observations

2001-09-16 Thread thomas graichen

oh - i forgot the diff file - appended now at the end ...

thomas graichen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i just had the chance to test-install the 8.0 final of mandrake
> ppc on an indigo ibook firewire (2000) and a cube with an attached
> apple 15" lcd studio display and observed the following:

> * i was on both machines not able to get to the graphical installer
>   - i tried many of the provided kernels also with a lot of video
>   vmode etc. options - no go - i get either a blue screem with the
>   typical x stipple background and a big x cursor (with the default
>   install) or garbage (ibook) or a turning off monitor (lcd) with
>   other modes ... all this always happens then the installer tries
>   to start its xserver ... does anyone else experience this too or
>   has a solution for it (some magic boot commandlines :-)?

> * so the only option left is text install on those machines ... to
>   see how well this would work (after having discovered some
>   problems with textinstall on my imac with the first beta) i did
>   a text mode test-install on my imac (onto a free partition) with
>   the following observations (btw. all this is about the expert
>   mode of it and now done with the final 8.0 ppc):

> * it is not possible to to choose a non us keyboard in the install
>   (the "more" button on the keyboard selection is missing in the
>   text install) - so i left it as us for the installation

> * it often puts out some errors of not being able to find some
>   LC_xyz values (en:us or something like) - looks like something
>   with the locales is broekn in the text installer which makes
>   the installer output not very readable

> * it does not ask me for the second install cd (i think it gave
>   an error about this for a very short time before it asked for
>   the root password) although i told it that i have the second
>   cd

> * this resulted in the expectation that i will not have all the
>   packages installed at the end (it can't if it has not seen the
>   second cd it uses for my packages choosed - all without the game
>   station, the scientific workstaion and the other graphical
>   desktops) ... but what i saw confused me even a bit more: it
>   installed besides that a somewhat different set of packages - is
>   the text-installer using it's own package list to install? ...
>   at the end of this mail i append a diff of a "rpm -qa" made
>   directly after the graphical install and the text install - the
>   confusing parts are the "-" ones (why does the text install
>   install things the graphical does not for the exact same package
>   selection?) and the following "+" which say the textinstaller
>   does not even install some packages which are on the first cd

> howto-html-en-8.0-1mdk.noarch.rpm
> howto-utils-0.2.3-1mdk.noarch.rpm
> ispell-en-3.1.20-15.1mdk.ppc.rpm
> locales-en-2.3.1-7mdk.noarch.rpm
> mandrake_doc-en-8.0-2mdk.noarch.rpm

>   all the other "+" come from the fact that it never saw the
>   second cd

> ok - thats all so far ... and please don't get me wrong - i think
> that mandrake/ppc is a great distribution - i only noticed those
> things and wanted to describe them here in best possible detail
> so that they might get fixed in the next release ... in the hope
> that this is helpful ... keep up the good work

> t

ok - and here the diff mentioned above:

--- graphical   Sun Sep 16 10:14:06 2001
+++ textSun Sep 16 10:14:13 2001
@@ -3,10 +3,10 @@
 apache-1.3.19-3mdk
 apache-common-1.3.19-3mdk
 apache-conf-1.3.19-3mdk
-apache-manual-1.3.19-3mdk
 apache-mod_perl-1.3.19_1.25-3mdk
 apache-modules-1.3.19-3mdk
 apache-suexec-1.3.19-3mdk
+arpwatch-2.1a10-2mdk
 arts-2.2-14mdk
 ash-0.2-24mdk
 at-3.1.7-21mdk
@@ -17,7 +17,6 @@
 automake-1.4-15mdk
 basesystem-8.0-3mdk
 bash-2.05-2mdk
-bash-doc-2.05-2mdk
 Bastille-1.2.0.rc3-0.1mdk
 Bastille-Curses-module-1.2.0.rc3-0.1mdk
 bc-1.06-2mdk
@@ -27,7 +26,6 @@
 binutils-2.10.1.0.2-4mdk
 bison-1.28-8mdk
 BitchX-1.0-0.c17.6mdk
-bluefish-0.6-1.1mdk
 bonobo-1.0.2-1mdk
 bug-buddy-2.0.1-1mdk
 bzip2-1.0.1-10mdk
@@ -55,16 +53,13 @@
 dev-3.0.6-9mdk
 diffutils-2.7-26mdk
 dip-3.3.7o-14mdk
-docbook-dtd31-sgml-1.0-3mdk
-docbook-style-dsssl-1.62-4mdk
 dosfstools-2.7-1mdk
-dpsftp-0.6.1-5mdk
 DrakConf-0.61-44mdk
 drakfloppy-0.43-1mdk
 drakfont-0.58-13.1mdk
-draksync-8.0-8mdk
 drakxtools-1.1.5-100.2mdk
 drakxtools-newt-1.1.5-100.2mdk
+dump-0.4b21-2mdk
 e2fsprogs-1.19-4mdk
 ed-0.2-24mdk
 ee-0.3.12-5mdk
@@ -72,7 +67,6 @@
 eject-2.0.2-8mdk
 emacs-20.7-16mdk
 emacs-X11-20.7-16mdk
-eMusic-DR0.9-9mdk
 enscript-1.6.1-16mdk
 eperl-2.2.14-8mdk
 esound-0.2.22-4mdk
@@ -84,14 +78,12 @@
 faces-1.6.1-14mdk
 fetchmail-5.7.4-5.1mdk
 file-3.34-5mdk
-FileRunner-2.5.1-3mdk
 filesystem-2.0.7-2mdk
 fileutils-4.0-18mdk
 findutils-4.1.6-1mdk
+finger-0.17-3mdk
 flex-2.5.4a-14mdk
 fmirror-0.8.4-2mdk
-fonts-ttf-decoratives-1.3-9mdk
-fonts-ttf-west_european-1.3-9mdk
 fortune-mod-1.0-29mdk
 freetype-1.3.1-10mdk
 freetype2-2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk
@@ -1

some 8.0 final observations

2001-09-16 Thread thomas graichen

i just had the chance to test-install the 8.0 final of mandrake
ppc on an indigo ibook firewire (2000) and a cube with an attached
apple 15" lcd studio display and observed the following:

* i was on both machines not able to get to the graphical installer
  - i tried many of the provided kernels also with a lot of video
  vmode etc. options - no go - i get either a blue screem with the
  typical x stipple background and a big x cursor (with the default
  install) or garbage (ibook) or a turning off monitor (lcd) with
  other modes ... all this always happens then the installer tries
  to start its xserver ... does anyone else experience this too or
  has a solution for it (some magic boot commandlines :-)?

* so the only option left is text install on those machines ... to
  see how well this would work (after having discovered some
  problems with textinstall on my imac with the first beta) i did
  a text mode test-install on my imac (onto a free partition) with
  the following observations (btw. all this is about the expert
  mode of it and now done with the final 8.0 ppc):

* it is not possible to to choose a non us keyboard in the install
  (the "more" button on the keyboard selection is missing in the
  text install) - so i left it as us for the installation

* it often puts out some errors of not being able to find some
  LC_xyz values (en:us or something like) - looks like something
  with the locales is broekn in the text installer which makes
  the installer output not very readable

* it does not ask me for the second install cd (i think it gave
  an error about this for a very short time before it asked for
  the root password) although i told it that i have the second
  cd

* this resulted in the expectation that i will not have all the
  packages installed at the end (it can't if it has not seen the
  second cd it uses for my packages choosed - all without the game
  station, the scientific workstaion and the other graphical
  desktops) ... but what i saw confused me even a bit more: it
  installed besides that a somewhat different set of packages - is
  the text-installer using it's own package list to install? ...
  at the end of this mail i append a diff of a "rpm -qa" made
  directly after the graphical install and the text install - the
  confusing parts are the "-" ones (why does the text install
  install things the graphical does not for the exact same package
  selection?) and the following "+" which say the textinstaller
  does not even install some packages which are on the first cd

howto-html-en-8.0-1mdk.noarch.rpm
howto-utils-0.2.3-1mdk.noarch.rpm
ispell-en-3.1.20-15.1mdk.ppc.rpm
locales-en-2.3.1-7mdk.noarch.rpm
mandrake_doc-en-8.0-2mdk.noarch.rpm

  all the other "+" come from the fact that it never saw the
  second cd

ok - thats all so far ... and please don't get me wrong - i think
that mandrake/ppc is a great distribution - i only noticed those
things and wanted to describe them here in best possible detail
so that they might get fixed in the next release ... in the hope
that this is helpful ... keep up the good work

t

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Re: kernel updates

2001-09-16 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a Titanium with 512 MB (maxed out at the time I bought it) and a
> Dell laptop with 512 MB (also maxed out).

Well :) :

(chmou@kernel)[~]-% cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1194.670
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 2385.51

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1194.670
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 2385.51

(chmou@kernel)[~]-% cat /proc/meminfo
total:used:free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  1053245440 996974592 562708480 50618368 776073216
Swap: 411222016  1560576 409661440
MemTotal:  1028560 kB
MemFree: 54952 kB
MemShared:   0 kB
Buffers: 49432 kB
Cached: 756360 kB
SwapCached:   1524 kB
Active: 508352 kB
Inact_dirty:231736 kB
Inact_clean: 67228 kB
Inact_target:  620 kB
HighTotal:  131008 kB
HighFree: 2036 kB
LowTotal:   897552 kB
LowFree: 52916 kB
SwapTotal:  401584 kB
SwapFree:   400060 kB
NrSwapPages:100015 pages




Re: iMac DV XF86config?

2001-09-16 Thread Vincent Danen

On Sun Sep 16, 2001 at 05:30:52PM -0400, Zack wrote:

> >Perhaps we should set up a repository for these;
> 
> I think this is a great idea! I realize, with Wintel architecture, video settings 
>and possiblities can be endless.  But, as you said, with Mac Hardware, the video 
>settings and possiblities are fairly low in number, and would only require a few 
>different config files to be swapped around.
> 
> Hopefully many people will be willing to share!
> 
> I personally have yet to get xfree86 working on my PowerMac 4400 series machine.  
>I'm using xpmac, and I'm passing kernel arguments with bootx to get it to change bit 
>depth and resolutions, as necessary.

I'm willing to be on the receiving end... =)  I'm still using xpmac on
my imac G3 "indigo" machine and have yet to get XFree86 4.x working on
it yet.

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Re: Disable Trackpad (fwd)

2001-09-16 Thread Stew Benedict


Guess I sent this directly - rather than the list...

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Terrence O.Oblak wrote:

> I'm running Mandrake 8.0 PPC on a tiPowerbook.
> 
> How can I de-activate the trackpad and button on my laptop since I'm using an 
> external USB mouse?
> 
> Sometime, when I'm typing my finger touches the trackpad which is 
> interpretted as a double click and the focus is being shifted to another 
> program or to a different part of the document than the section I'm working 
> on.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is happening often and it's a 
> bit annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Terrence Oblak
> 

You may need to experiment a little and see what device you external mouse
is attached to.  What the setup does is link:

/dev/mouse --> /dev/usbmouse --> /dev/input/mice

Which is kindof neat on a laptop, because it will autmagically pickup both
the trackpad and an external mouse (except when it becomes annoying, as in
your case)

Chances are the trackpad is on /dev/input/mouse0, and the external USB
mouse is on /dev/input/mouse1, although I juts tried on my Powerbook and
my external mouse actually landed in /dev/input/mouse2.

So if you change the entry in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver  "mouse"
Option "Protocol""IMPS/2"
Option "Device"  "/dev/input/mice"

to the correct device for your external mouse, the problem should go away.

For the console, the device is defined in /etc/sysconfig/mouse and mine is
pointed to /dev/usbmouse, which is linked to /dev/input/mice, but my
machine has changed since the initial install.

HTH,
Stew Benedict

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Re: my cinema display problem

2001-09-16 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Markus Teich wrote:

> 
> > 
> > There are a couple of other install modes you can try:
> > 
> > install-atyfb
> > install-aty128fb
> 
> 
> i get the errors on the log window: (doing standart install)
> 
> can not set locale modifiers at /usr/bin/per-install/mygtk.pm line 279
> locale not supported by c library at  " "; (the upper path)
> 
> this error comes again and again
> 

Normal.

> on the f7 window i get the installation screen  (first graphicak screen)
> but it has obscure colors and is totaly ugly like 16 colors only and 
> scrambled..
> 
> anyone have any experience..
> i think i am not the only user with a cinema display
> 

Did you try both of the above modes? Your only other alternative is the
text install.  The cinema display isn't the issue - it's whatever video
card the machine has.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Disable Trackpad [REPOST]

2001-09-16 Thread Ben Reser

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:16:31AM +0200, Henrik Edlund wrote:
> There is probably some wire that connects it to the motherboard so if you
> want to void your warranty you could open the laptop up and cut the wire.

If the new ibook is anything like the old ones you wouldn't have to cut
it.  However, it would be a tad inconvient to plug in and out because
you have to take the case apart.

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Re: Disable Trackpad [REPOST]

2001-09-16 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Terrence Oblak wrote:

TO> Correct, I want to totally disable the trackpad.  I guess I'll
TO> just have to be careful of my hand position from now on.

There is probably some wire that connects it to the motherboard so if you
want to void your warranty you could open the laptop up and cut the wire.

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Re: Disable Trackpad [REPOST]

2001-09-16 Thread Terrence Oblak

On Sunday 16 September 2001 15:34, you wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:24:45PM +0200, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> > Check for "trackpad" in the pmud package. "trackpad notap" will disable
> > tapping. Then, you may want to add the following in /etc/sysconfig/mouse:
> >
> > TRACKPAD_TAP=no # set to yes if you want trackpad tapping
>
> I think he wants to completely turn off the trackpad.  Which as far as
> I'm aware there is no way to do that.  And what you gave won't do that.

Correct, I want to totally disable the trackpad.  I guess I'll just have to 
be careful of my hand position from now on.

Thanks to all for their suggestions.

Terrence Oblak




RE: iMac DV XF86config?

2001-09-16 Thread Ryan C. Gordon


> Hopefully many people will be willing to share!

I finally managed to cobble together a working, accelerated X
configuration for my iMac DV. I had to upgrade to XFree 4.1.0, but dear
lord, it's FAST. I'm in love with this distro, now.

I'll be putting up a PPC XFConfig repository.

Everyone: Please forward your working PPC XF86Config files to me! Let me
know what type of machine it is, and any important caveats to getting it
going ("uh...i needed to upgrade to 4.1.0, and use this kernel command
line...", "this only works in 16-bit color", etc).

--ryan. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])







Re: Disable Trackpad [REPOST]

2001-09-16 Thread Ben Reser

On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:24:45PM +0200, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> Check for "trackpad" in the pmud package. "trackpad notap" will disable
> tapping. Then, you may want to add the following in /etc/sysconfig/mouse:
> 
>   TRACKPAD_TAP=no # set to yes if you want trackpad tapping

I think he wants to completely turn off the trackpad.  Which as far as
I'm aware there is no way to do that.  And what you gave won't do that.

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RE: iMac DV XF86config?

2001-09-16 Thread Zack

>Perhaps we should set up a repository for these;

I think this is a great idea! I realize, with Wintel architecture, video settings and 
possiblities can be endless.  But, as you said, with Mac Hardware, the video settings 
and possiblities are fairly low in number, and would only require a few different 
config files to be swapped around.

Hopefully many people will be willing to share!

I personally have yet to get xfree86 working on my PowerMac 4400 series machine.  I'm 
using xpmac, and I'm passing kernel arguments with bootx to get it to change bit depth 
and resolutions, as necessary.

-Zack

"Ryan C. Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Does anyone have a functioning XF86Config file for a tangerine iMac DV?
>
>Perhaps we should set up a repository for these; as far as Apple hardware
>goes, there's only a finite number of video configurations anyhow. I'll
>volunteer webspace for it, if people will send me configs for their
>various iMacs, iBooks, Cubes, etc.
>
>Thanks!
>
>--ryan.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Disable Trackpad [REPOST]

2001-09-16 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne

[Since it doesn't to have reached the list the first time]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Terrence O.Oblak wrote:

> I'm running Mandrake 8.0 PPC on a tiPowerbook.

So do I. ;-)

> How can I de-activate the trackpad and button on my laptop since I'm using an
> external USB mouse?

Check for "trackpad" in the pmud package. "trackpad notap" will disable
tapping. Then, you may want to add the following in /etc/sysconfig/mouse:

TRACKPAD_TAP=no # set to yes if you want trackpad tapping

Bye,
Gwenole.






Re: my cinema display problem

2001-09-16 Thread Markus Teich


> 
> There are a couple of other install modes you can try:
> 
> install-atyfb
> install-aty128fb


i get the errors on the log window: (doing standart install)

can not set locale modifiers at /usr/bin/per-install/mygtk.pm line 279
locale not supported by c library at  " "; (the upper path)

this error comes again and again

on the f7 window i get the installation screen  (first graphicak screen)
but it has obscure colors and is totaly ugly like 16 colors only and 
scrambled..

anyone have any experience..
i think i am not the only user with a cinema display

.. thanx in advance
markus





Re: my cinema display problem

2001-09-16 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Markus Teich wrote:

> i just get after starting installation with standart no-video
> ... an getting into the second stage..
> 
> a blue screen with a brighter blue bar on the downside of the screen
> and a X in the middle..
> 
> then i have to reboot because nothing happens
> anyone has a clue?
> 

There are a couple of other install modes you can try:

install-atyfb
install-aty128fb

Short of that, you'll need to use the text-mode install

Stew Benedict

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Re: VMWare?

2001-09-16 Thread Brice D Ruth

Has Bochs gotten any faster?  I tried it a while back and on a speedy 
machine it was still quite slow - to the point where it was unusable.

-Brice

Sylvain OBEGI wrote:

>On dim, 2001-09-16 at 06:55, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
>
>>>Is there a version of VMWare or a similar product available for Linux PPC?
>>>
>>>I make my living doing Windoze programming and I would love to run some
>>>virtual machines.
>>>
>>VMware virtualizes the x86 processor, so it won't run on anything but an
>>x86, ever.
>>
>>The alternative is to emulate every opcode, which is much less speedy, but
>>it can theoretically work on any platform.
>>
>>The best bet in this case is Bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net/), which
>>I think not only works on PowerPC Linux, but also has RPMs for download.
>>Your Mileage May Vary.
>>
>>--ryan.
>>
>
>Bochs seems cool, but I personnally can't install/boot Win98SE under
>bochs (on iBook 2 with Mdk 8.0 PPC)
>Oh.. And if you use bochs, use a cvs snapshot.
>






my cinema display problem

2001-09-16 Thread Markus Teich

i just get after starting installation with standart no-video
... an getting into the second stage..

a blue screen with a brighter blue bar on the downside of the screen
and a X in the middle..

then i have to reboot because nothing happens
anyone has a clue?

markus





cinema display----installation of mandrake 8

2001-09-16 Thread Markus Teich

hi all..
i cant get the graphical installer to start on my g4 400 (no-gigabit) 
with a 22" cinema display...

does mandrake support the 22" cinema display with the graphical 
installer.. and with X..

or should i give up installing.. if its not supported at all..

if its supportet... are virtal consoles also supported?

anyone?

markus





Re: VMWare?

2001-09-16 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

On dim, 2001-09-16 at 06:55, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> 
> > Is there a version of VMWare or a similar product available for Linux PPC?
> >
> > I make my living doing Windoze programming and I would love to run some
> > virtual machines.
> 
> VMware virtualizes the x86 processor, so it won't run on anything but an
> x86, ever.
> 
> The alternative is to emulate every opcode, which is much less speedy, but
> it can theoretically work on any platform.
> 
> The best bet in this case is Bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net/), which
> I think not only works on PowerPC Linux, but also has RPMs for download.
> Your Mileage May Vary.
> 
> --ryan.

Bochs seems cool, but I personnally can't install/boot Win98SE under
bochs (on iBook 2 with Mdk 8.0 PPC)
Oh.. And if you use bochs, use a cvs snapshot.

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