Re: partitioning bug on IBM hardware

2001-09-24 Thread Todd Inglett

Stew Benedict wrote:

[...]

>What you may be able to do is use "get_mac_model" and change $type to dos:
>
>sub zero_MBR {
>my ($hd) = @_;
>#- force the standard partition type for the architecture
>my $type = arch() eq "alpha" ? "bsd" : arch() =~ /^sparc/ ? "sun" : \
>arch() eq "ppc" ? "mac" : "dos";
>#- IBM PPC machines use DOS partition table
>$type = "dos" if (detect_devices::get_mac_model =~ /^IBM/);
>require("partition_table_$type.pm");
>bless $hd, "partition_table_$type";
>$hd->{primary} = $hd->clear_raw();
>delete $hd->{extended};
>}
>
Ok, I'm back on it again :).  I had already brute forced this with a 
simple $type = "dos".  Now I still get a "warning: bad magic number at 
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_emtpy.pm line 31."  It looks like 
this code is looking for a zero block on the drive but I don't see 
offhand where it is called

BTW, it does say it found a dos partition table at sector 0, but they 
may be simply due to my hack.  I haven't read the code close enough to 
know for sure.

-todd










XFree86 4.1.0 on beige g3

2001-09-24 Thread cjw

Hi,

XFree86-server 4.1.0 gives me garbled text in most fonts. Both with source
package from cooker that I compiled myself and with the binary someone
referred to in a previous mail on this list. The characters are almost
written in reverse order. Any idea what causes this? I don't use the X
font server.


greetings,

Christiaan





Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:

> okay, i built the initrd and then transferred it over to the mac os
> partition.  selected it with bootx, set video driver to off.  the boot
> process halts right after detecting the floppy disk (where it would usually
> then detect the scsi bus).  i get the error,
> Oops: kernel access of bad area. sig: 11
> then a few lines of more info (mainly looks like machine code to me, except
> for
> Task=c0466000 [1] 'swapper' last syscall: 120
> kernel panic: attempted to kill init!
> 
> then i have to reboot.  i left the ramdisk size as the default in bootx,
> should i increase that?
> 
> thanks for all the help.

Do you see anything in the kernel messages referring to loading the
ramdisk?  You should not need anything too big, but probably double your
actual ramdisk image wouldn't hurt.

Are you booting the 2.2 kernel with an initrd also? (I would think so
since SCSI is not built in)

It's also possible that things are getting corrupted moving them from
Linux to MacOS.  You might want to consider building a kernel with
integrated SCSI, rather than modules.  this could make your life a little
easier.

Can you show us:

ls -l /boot

A screen shot of the BootX setup. (some common format - I'd rather not
have to boot MacOS just to see it ;^))

Finally - have you tried the kernel/initrd image for 2.4 on my web page?

Thanks,
Stew Benedict

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RE: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Probably.
--JES

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Mann
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac


Okay, I see.  But I'm on an oldworld mac, so I'm using BootX.  Do i need to
make this ram disk and then move it over to the mac side of the world so i
can then tell bootx to load from this ram disk initially?

oh, and the rpm -i command didn't seem to make a initrd for me.

thanks
-chris
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac


>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:
>
> > Aahhh.  Yes, I already have Mandrake 8.0 installed and the 2.2 kernel is
up
> > and running just fine.  I'm just trying to upgrade to the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> > I'm guessing I need an initrd, but i'm not really sure what that is or
how
> > to use it :).  I remember seeing one linked on your webpage, but i
wasn't
> > sure what to do with it.  And why is this different than what is needed
for
> > the 2.2 kernel?
> >
>
> Any kernel that does not have SCSI integrated needs an initrd if you are
> mount "/" on a SCSI drive.  initrd is an initial ramdisk, that loads the
> modules needed for the kernel to see the hardware and proceed.
>
> If you look at yaboot.conf, you will most likely see an initrd entry for
> your 2.2 kernel.  The rpm -i process for the 2.4 kernel should have also
> created one, if things worked the way they are intended to. the images
> reside in /boot, with the kernels.
>
> To create one manually:
>
> [stew@powerbook-cooker aewm-drakx]$ /sbin/mkinitrd
> usage: mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] [--ifneeded] [--preload ]
>[--omit-scsi-modules] [--omit-raid-modules] [--with=]
>[--image-version] [--fstab=] [--nocompress] 
>
>(ex: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.8-20mdk 2.4.8-20mdk)
>
> It should pick up the fact that you need the SCSI module, or you can
> force them with --with=
>
> man mkinitrd goes into more detail
>
> Then of course make sure you have the entry in yaboot.conf and run ybin to
> update things.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC Faq:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99441208917647&w=
>
>


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Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


One last Q - do you recall if you were able to use the 2.4 kernel on the
CD when you installed?

Thx,
Stew Benedict

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"Bug" in X autodetection on iBook2

2001-09-24 Thread Henrik Edlund

During install I picked 32 bits of colours and then tested this and then
clicked okay on it. The program showed 32 bit and I went on. When I later
login and start X for the first time it is running in 15 bits of colours
(which it also says as default colour depth in the XF86Config-4). I
change manually to 32 in the config and then when I do startx I get to
know the driver do not support this, do I change to 24 bits manually in
the config and it works. So the bug in the autodetection during install is
that the installer should say 32 bits do not work and suggest 24 bits
instead, not autoselect 15 bits and fool the user it is still 32 bits.

-- 
Henrik Edlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.edlund.org/

"You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit
happens." -- Angelina Jolie





Re: iMac DV and XFree 4

2001-09-24 Thread Ryan C. Gordon


> Will rpm -Uvh * install the 4.1 rpms without any trouble (assuming I do it
> from the console...)?

Did for me. You don't need all the RPMs, so choose them carefully.

In short, if one won't install, you probably don't need it.

--ryan.






Re: iMac DV and XFree 4

2001-09-24 Thread David Chart

Thanks.

Will rpm -Uvh * install the 4.1 rpms without any trouble (assuming I do it 
from the console...)?

David Chart




Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Chris Mann

okay, i built the initrd and then transferred it over to the mac os
partition.  selected it with bootx, set video driver to off.  the boot
process halts right after detecting the floppy disk (where it would usually
then detect the scsi bus).  i get the error,
Oops: kernel access of bad area. sig: 11
then a few lines of more info (mainly looks like machine code to me, except
for
Task=c0466000 [1] 'swapper' last syscall: 120
kernel panic: attempted to kill init!

then i have to reboot.  i left the ramdisk size as the default in bootx,
should i increase that?

thanks for all the help.

-chris
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac


>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:
>
> > Okay, I see.  But I'm on an oldworld mac, so I'm using BootX.  Do i need
to
> > make this ram disk and then move it over to the mac side of the world so
i
> > can then tell bootx to load from this ram disk initially?
> >
> > oh, and the rpm -i command didn't seem to make a initrd for me.
> >
>
> Yes you do - set it up in BootX like a ramdisk for the installer.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC Faq:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99441208917647&w=
>
>





Re: iMac DV and XFree 4

2001-09-24 Thread Ryan C. Gordon


> A week or so ago, Ryan Gordon posted that he had XFree 4 working on an iMac
> DV.
>
> The archived messages contains too little information for me to reproduce
> that feat; is there any more available?

http://icculus.org/ppc_linux/

(I also have a titanium config that was sent to me that has yet to be
posted...please email me details of getting your PPC system up and
running, and I'll add them to the website.)

--ryan.






Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:

> Okay, I see.  But I'm on an oldworld mac, so I'm using BootX.  Do i need to
> make this ram disk and then move it over to the mac side of the world so i
> can then tell bootx to load from this ram disk initially?
> 
> oh, and the rpm -i command didn't seem to make a initrd for me.
> 

Yes you do - set it up in BootX like a ramdisk for the installer.

Stew Benedict

-- 
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lyx

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


Henrik has identified a problem with lyx.  The program segfaults
immediately when you try to use it.  The version from cooker seems to
build/run acceptably in my quick try and Vincent is going to rebuild it
and add it to the updates site.

Thanks Henrik!

Stew Benedict

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Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Chris Mann

Okay, I see.  But I'm on an oldworld mac, so I'm using BootX.  Do i need to
make this ram disk and then move it over to the mac side of the world so i
can then tell bootx to load from this ram disk initially?

oh, and the rpm -i command didn't seem to make a initrd for me.

thanks
-chris
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac


>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:
>
> > Aahhh.  Yes, I already have Mandrake 8.0 installed and the 2.2 kernel is
up
> > and running just fine.  I'm just trying to upgrade to the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> > I'm guessing I need an initrd, but i'm not really sure what that is or
how
> > to use it :).  I remember seeing one linked on your webpage, but i
wasn't
> > sure what to do with it.  And why is this different than what is needed
for
> > the 2.2 kernel?
> >
>
> Any kernel that does not have SCSI integrated needs an initrd if you are
> mount "/" on a SCSI drive.  initrd is an initial ramdisk, that loads the
> modules needed for the kernel to see the hardware and proceed.
>
> If you look at yaboot.conf, you will most likely see an initrd entry for
> your 2.2 kernel.  The rpm -i process for the 2.4 kernel should have also
> created one, if things worked the way they are intended to. the images
> reside in /boot, with the kernels.
>
> To create one manually:
>
> [stew@powerbook-cooker aewm-drakx]$ /sbin/mkinitrd
> usage: mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] [--ifneeded] [--preload ]
>[--omit-scsi-modules] [--omit-raid-modules] [--with=]
>[--image-version] [--fstab=] [--nocompress] 
>
>(ex: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.8-20mdk 2.4.8-20mdk)
>
> It should pick up the fact that you need the SCSI module, or you can
> force them with --with=
>
> man mkinitrd goes into more detail
>
> Then of course make sure you have the entry in yaboot.conf and run ybin to
> update things.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC Faq:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99441208917647&w=
>
>





Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:

> Aahhh.  Yes, I already have Mandrake 8.0 installed and the 2.2 kernel is up
> and running just fine.  I'm just trying to upgrade to the 2.4 kernel.
> 
> I'm guessing I need an initrd, but i'm not really sure what that is or how
> to use it :).  I remember seeing one linked on your webpage, but i wasn't
> sure what to do with it.  And why is this different than what is needed for
> the 2.2 kernel?
> 

Any kernel that does not have SCSI integrated needs an initrd if you are
mount "/" on a SCSI drive.  initrd is an initial ramdisk, that loads the
modules needed for the kernel to see the hardware and proceed.

If you look at yaboot.conf, you will most likely see an initrd entry for
your 2.2 kernel.  The rpm -i process for the 2.4 kernel should have also
created one, if things worked the way they are intended to. the images
reside in /boot, with the kernels.

To create one manually:

[stew@powerbook-cooker aewm-drakx]$ /sbin/mkinitrd
usage: mkinitrd [--version] [-v] [-f] [--ifneeded] [--preload ]
   [--omit-scsi-modules] [--omit-raid-modules] [--with=]
   [--image-version] [--fstab=] [--nocompress] 
   
   (ex: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.8-20mdk 2.4.8-20mdk)

It should pick up the fact that you need the SCSI module, or you can
force them with --with=

man mkinitrd goes into more detail

Then of course make sure you have the entry in yaboot.conf and run ybin to
update things.

Stew Benedict

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Re: update on beige G3 bootx issues

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Xavier wrote:

> One step at a time.  I found that if I choose "no video driver" and 
> "text" as a kernel argument (not "install-text") I get a little further. 
> Now, I manage to enter the install program.  I get as far as 
> choosing the install method and then the install language.  Later I get 
> a kernel panic:
> 
> sda9Kernel panic: Kernel access of bad area pc c015ea40 lr c01f1564 
> address 6960 tsk insmod_138
> 

I'm pretty sure "text" is what I recommended.  Someone else mentioned
"install-text".  As I said all you need to do is look at yaboot.conf on
the CD to see the append arguments and other arguments needed for BootX.

It looks like you have a SCSI drive, with at least 9 partitions (sda9),
and the kernel panics when the module is loaded (insmod).

I believe some other folks had a similar issue with this and are using
Phil's workaround:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/temp/BootXtest.sit

Which uses another kernel.

HTH,
Stew Benedict

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Re: hdlists

2001-09-24 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Thanks.
--- David Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> miBoot is another boot loader for Old-World
> machines.  It can be set up to
> use the same style config file as yaboot.  Because
> it replaces the MacOS
> System Folder, it's possible to create a smaller HFS
> partition and still be
> able to boot multiple kernels.  In my case, I no
> longer have an easily
> accessible ADB mouse, and the USB stuff doesn't load
> until after the BootX
> extension, so having the ability to change the
> boot.conf file from Linux
> makes it easier for me when I want to try new
> kernels and stuff.  I haven't
> actually used it with Mandrake since I haven't been
> able to complete the
> install process, but it works fine for me when I
> load the installer.
> 
> dc
> 
> While emailing instead of doing something productive
> on 9/23/01 3:40 PM,
> Jonathan Sailor wrote:
> 
> > What's miBoot
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of David Cheng
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:11 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: hdlists
> > 
> > 
> > Actually, instead of using BootX, I'm using miBoot
> (I think it's just cool
> > to see the penguin on the Mac), after having
> copied vmlinux and the ramdisk
> > to the HFS partition, along with making changes to
> the boot.conf file.
> > Getting into the installer isn't a problem.  Is
> that what you mean?  After
> > the initial boot-up, I have the option of
> selecting the method of install,
> > and I have, so far, chosen the HTTP server option.
>  Then the graphical (or
> > text, depending on which I choose) installer
> loads, and I'm off and
> > running/stumbling until it's time to find hdlists.
>  I guess this plan won't
> > work for now.  I'll just have to burn the CDs. 
> Unfortunately, I don't have
> > the space on the 7500 to mount the images.
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply.  I'll just put this on hold
> until I am able to burn
> > the CDs.
> > 
> > dc
> > 
> > While emailing instead of doing something
> productive on 9/19/01 3:25 PM,
> > Stew Benedict wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, David Cheng wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I've looked through the archives for my problem,
> but I can't seem to find
> > a
> >>> solution.  I'm currently attempting to install
> Mandrake 8.0 on a fairly
> >>> stock 7500/100.  I am able to get the install to
> the point where I am
> >>> supposed to select packages, but I keep getting
> the message "an error
> >>> occurred no hdlists found".
> >>> 
> >>> What I've tried:
> >>> -Downloaded both ISO images to a fairly stock
> G4/400 AGP
> >>> -Mounted them using DiskCopy since I don't have
> a burner
> >>> -Copied all the files to a single directory,
> combining the RPM
> > directories
> >>> into a single RPMS directory
> >>> -Turned on web server with the Mandrake
> directory as the home directory
> >>> -Started install, everything worked great until
> after formatting drives
> >>> -Checked archive
> >>> 
> >
>
(http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99856711214748&w=2)
> >>> and saw that this would make hdlists invalid
> >>> -Thought I could fix this by getting the hdlists
> from the cooker-ppc
> > mirror,
> >>> saw that maybe I should also get hdlist1.cz, so
> downloaded that as well
> >>> -Replaced hdlists and hdlist1.cz in the base
> directory
> >>> -Failed install again for the same reason
> >>> -Thought maybe I should not combine the CD
> images, so created new
> > directory
> >>> with just the files from the install CD
> >>> -Failed install again for the same reason
> >>> -Thought that maybe the installer was looking
> for a hdlists instead of
> >>> HDLISTS (anyone know why the CD images are all
> in upper case?)
> >>> -Failed install again for the same reason
> >>> -Frustrated
> >>> 
> >>> My question, is there a way to change hdlists to
> reflect my current
> > setup,
> >>> or does it need to be edited in any way?
> >>> 
> >>> My next option is to attempt to install over the
> network using one of the
> >>> mirrors (but I've been avoiding that since I've
> already downloaded the
> >>> images) or get a CD-RW (maybe this will be my
> excuse!).
> >>> 
> >>> If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate
> it.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I think you're running into problems in moving
> the files across different
> >> media/OS's.  Most definitely, none of the files
> should be all upper case,
> >> although some RPM packages have mixed case
> naming.  In concept, you're
> >> doing the right thing, in combining the RPMS and
> using the hdlist stuff
> >> from the mirror, but the filename issue is going
> to be a showstopper.
> >> 
> >> Can you not use BootX to boot into the CD
> installer?
> >> 
> >> Stew Benedict
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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iMac DV and XFree 4

2001-09-24 Thread David Chart

A week or so ago, Ryan Gordon posted that he had XFree 4 working on an iMac 
DV.

The archived messages contains too little information for me to reproduce 
that feat; is there any more available?

Thanks in advance.

David Chart




Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Chris Mann

Aahhh.  Yes, I already have Mandrake 8.0 installed and the 2.2 kernel is up
and running just fine.  I'm just trying to upgrade to the 2.4 kernel.

I'm guessing I need an initrd, but i'm not really sure what that is or how
to use it :).  I remember seeing one linked on your webpage, but i wasn't
sure what to do with it.  And why is this different than what is needed for
the 2.2 kernel?

thanks
-chris
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac


>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm trying to get the 2.4 kernel working on my oldworld mac, but am
not
> > really getting very far.  i have a umax j700 with a turbomax ata card.
the
> > root parition is on a scsi disk.  I'm using BootX v1.2.3.  To even get
> > anywhere i have to check the No video driver option in boot x otherwise
the
> > screen just blacks out and the machine freezes.
> >
> > With any of the 2.4 mandrake supplied kernels, it starts to load, but
never
> > detects the scsi interface, so i get the message:
> > VFS:  cannot  open root device "sda8" or 08:08
> >
> > looks like it sees the ide devices and other hardware fine (although
> > everything scrolls by so fast, it's hard to see).  when booting with the
> > 2.2. kernel scsi0 is MESH and scsi1 is 53C94.  is there anything i can
do to
> > force the 2.4 kernel to use the modules (I'm assuming these are modules,
but
> > am fairly new with this part of linux).
> >
> > the 2.4.10pre2 kernel from ppckernel.org doesn't even get that far.  it
just
> > freezes at some sort of hardware checking stage.
> >
> > thanks for any help.
> >
>
> Please clarify.  Have you already installed and you're trying to use 2.4.4
> instead of 2.2 (2.4 should have been installed).  If your "/" is on a SCSI
> drive you need an initrd with the appropriate driver.
>
> If you are trying to install, stage 1 should allow you to load the SCSI
> module, regardless of which kernel is being used, provided you use the
> appropriate stage1 image for the kernel (all.gz).
>
> Stew Benedict
>
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Re: problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Mann wrote:

> Hi, I'm trying to get the 2.4 kernel working on my oldworld mac, but am not
> really getting very far.  i have a umax j700 with a turbomax ata card.  the
> root parition is on a scsi disk.  I'm using BootX v1.2.3.  To even get
> anywhere i have to check the No video driver option in boot x otherwise the
> screen just blacks out and the machine freezes.
> 
> With any of the 2.4 mandrake supplied kernels, it starts to load, but never
> detects the scsi interface, so i get the message:
> VFS:  cannot  open root device "sda8" or 08:08
> 
> looks like it sees the ide devices and other hardware fine (although
> everything scrolls by so fast, it's hard to see).  when booting with the
> 2.2. kernel scsi0 is MESH and scsi1 is 53C94.  is there anything i can do to
> force the 2.4 kernel to use the modules (I'm assuming these are modules, but
> am fairly new with this part of linux).
> 
> the 2.4.10pre2 kernel from ppckernel.org doesn't even get that far.  it just
> freezes at some sort of hardware checking stage.
> 
> thanks for any help.
> 

Please clarify.  Have you already installed and you're trying to use 2.4.4
instead of 2.2 (2.4 should have been installed).  If your "/" is on a SCSI
drive you need an initrd with the appropriate driver.

If you are trying to install, stage 1 should allow you to load the SCSI
module, regardless of which kernel is being used, provided you use the
appropriate stage1 image for the kernel (all.gz).

Stew Benedict

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Re: update on beige G3 bootx issues

2001-09-24 Thread Xavier

One step at a time.  I found that if I choose "no video driver" and 
"text" as a kernel argument (not "install-text") I get a little further. 
Now, I manage to enter the install program.  I get as far as 
choosing the install method and then the install language.  Later I get 
a kernel panic:

sda9Kernel panic: Kernel access of bad area pc c015ea40 lr c01f1564 
address 6960 tsk insmod_138

I'm not sure what this means or how to resolve it.

-Paul Rodriguez

Xavier wrote:

> No, the beige G3 is an "old world" macintosh.  That's why I'm trying to 
> get the installer to work with Bootx.  Still no luck.
> 
> I've tried every combination.
> 
> -Paul R
> 
> Wijnand Rietman wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> though I'm still having difficulties installing Mandrake-PPC myself 
>> (due to
>> partitioning problems) I maybe can help you out a bit. The machine you 
>> want
>> to install is a "new world" machine, right? I suggest you should use 
>> yaboot
>> to boot your system. I think that the option root device: /dev/ram3 is the
>> driver you need to create the ramdisk.
>>
>> Greetings, Wijnand.
>>
>> --
>>
>>> From: Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: update on beige G3 bottx issues
>>> Date: zon, 23 sep 2001 17:54
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> Ok, this is where I stand.
>>>
>>> After starting bootx, I choose the file all.gz.  I set the ramdisk size
>>> as 32000.  I choose vmlinux as my kernel.
>>>
>>> Whatever I put into my command arguments is ignored, including
>>> "install-text" or "text".  (Unless of course, they're not being ignored,
>>> but just makes no difference to the problem.)
>>>
>>> Immediatly after clicking linux the system starts up, shows me the name
>>> of the kernel, says it is beginning boot and freezes there, in a black
>>> screen with some system information.
>>>
>>> Choosing "no video driver" gets me a little farther, to finishing second
>>> stage install, but not to the Mandrake install program.
>>>
>>> Stew mentioned that he had a setting:
>>>
>>> root device: /dev/ram3
>>>
>>> I have no idea what this is.  There are no parameters for me to set to
>>> the above, and I'm not sure what that means anyway.
>>>
>>> These troubles may or may not be related to my video card.  If that was
>>> the case, it would seem that text install should work, but it's not.
>>>
>>> -Paul Rodriguez
>>>
>>> PS  I did have some trouble booting my machine after adding the kernels
>>> from the Mandrake cd to the bootx folder, but that went away.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
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Re: hdlists

2001-09-24 Thread David Cheng

miBoot is another boot loader for Old-World machines.  It can be set up to
use the same style config file as yaboot.  Because it replaces the MacOS
System Folder, it's possible to create a smaller HFS partition and still be
able to boot multiple kernels.  In my case, I no longer have an easily
accessible ADB mouse, and the USB stuff doesn't load until after the BootX
extension, so having the ability to change the boot.conf file from Linux
makes it easier for me when I want to try new kernels and stuff.  I haven't
actually used it with Mandrake since I haven't been able to complete the
install process, but it works fine for me when I load the installer.

dc

While emailing instead of doing something productive on 9/23/01 3:40 PM,
Jonathan Sailor wrote:

> What's miBoot
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Cheng
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: hdlists
> 
> 
> Actually, instead of using BootX, I'm using miBoot (I think it's just cool
> to see the penguin on the Mac), after having copied vmlinux and the ramdisk
> to the HFS partition, along with making changes to the boot.conf file.
> Getting into the installer isn't a problem.  Is that what you mean?  After
> the initial boot-up, I have the option of selecting the method of install,
> and I have, so far, chosen the HTTP server option.  Then the graphical (or
> text, depending on which I choose) installer loads, and I'm off and
> running/stumbling until it's time to find hdlists.  I guess this plan won't
> work for now.  I'll just have to burn the CDs.  Unfortunately, I don't have
> the space on the 7500 to mount the images.
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I'll just put this on hold until I am able to burn
> the CDs.
> 
> dc
> 
> While emailing instead of doing something productive on 9/19/01 3:25 PM,
> Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, David Cheng wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've looked through the archives for my problem, but I can't seem to find
> a
>>> solution.  I'm currently attempting to install Mandrake 8.0 on a fairly
>>> stock 7500/100.  I am able to get the install to the point where I am
>>> supposed to select packages, but I keep getting the message "an error
>>> occurred no hdlists found".
>>> 
>>> What I've tried:
>>> -Downloaded both ISO images to a fairly stock G4/400 AGP
>>> -Mounted them using DiskCopy since I don't have a burner
>>> -Copied all the files to a single directory, combining the RPM
> directories
>>> into a single RPMS directory
>>> -Turned on web server with the Mandrake directory as the home directory
>>> -Started install, everything worked great until after formatting drives
>>> -Checked archive
>>> 
> (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99856711214748&w=2)
>>> and saw that this would make hdlists invalid
>>> -Thought I could fix this by getting the hdlists from the cooker-ppc
> mirror,
>>> saw that maybe I should also get hdlist1.cz, so downloaded that as well
>>> -Replaced hdlists and hdlist1.cz in the base directory
>>> -Failed install again for the same reason
>>> -Thought maybe I should not combine the CD images, so created new
> directory
>>> with just the files from the install CD
>>> -Failed install again for the same reason
>>> -Thought that maybe the installer was looking for a hdlists instead of
>>> HDLISTS (anyone know why the CD images are all in upper case?)
>>> -Failed install again for the same reason
>>> -Frustrated
>>> 
>>> My question, is there a way to change hdlists to reflect my current
> setup,
>>> or does it need to be edited in any way?
>>> 
>>> My next option is to attempt to install over the network using one of the
>>> mirrors (but I've been avoiding that since I've already downloaded the
>>> images) or get a CD-RW (maybe this will be my excuse!).
>>> 
>>> If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think you're running into problems in moving the files across different
>> media/OS's.  Most definitely, none of the files should be all upper case,
>> although some RPM packages have mixed case naming.  In concept, you're
>> doing the right thing, in combining the RPMS and using the hdlist stuff
>> from the mirror, but the filename issue is going to be a showstopper.
>> 
>> Can you not use BootX to boot into the CD installer?
>> 
>> Stew Benedict
> 
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problems with 2.4 kernel on oldworld mac

2001-09-24 Thread Chris Mann

Hi, I'm trying to get the 2.4 kernel working on my oldworld mac, but am not
really getting very far.  i have a umax j700 with a turbomax ata card.  the
root parition is on a scsi disk.  I'm using BootX v1.2.3.  To even get
anywhere i have to check the No video driver option in boot x otherwise the
screen just blacks out and the machine freezes.

With any of the 2.4 mandrake supplied kernels, it starts to load, but never
detects the scsi interface, so i get the message:
VFS:  cannot  open root device "sda8" or 08:08

looks like it sees the ide devices and other hardware fine (although
everything scrolls by so fast, it's hard to see).  when booting with the
2.2. kernel scsi0 is MESH and scsi1 is 53C94.  is there anything i can do to
force the 2.4 kernel to use the modules (I'm assuming these are modules, but
am fairly new with this part of linux).

the 2.4.10pre2 kernel from ppckernel.org doesn't even get that far.  it just
freezes at some sort of hardware checking stage.

thanks for any help.

-c





Re: update on beige G3 bottx issues

2001-09-24 Thread Xavier

No, the beige G3 is an "old world" macintosh.  That's why I'm trying to 
get the installer to work with Bootx.  Still no luck.

I've tried every combination.

-Paul R

Wijnand Rietman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> though I'm still having difficulties installing Mandrake-PPC myself (due to
> partitioning problems) I maybe can help you out a bit. The machine you want
> to install is a "new world" machine, right? I suggest you should use yaboot
> to boot your system. I think that the option root device: /dev/ram3 is the
> driver you need to create the ramdisk.
> 
> Greetings, Wijnand.
> 
> --
> 
>>From: Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: update on beige G3 bottx issues
>>Date: zon, 23 sep 2001 17:54
>>
>>
> 
>>Ok, this is where I stand.
>>
>>After starting bootx, I choose the file all.gz.  I set the ramdisk size
>>as 32000.  I choose vmlinux as my kernel.
>>
>>Whatever I put into my command arguments is ignored, including
>>"install-text" or "text".  (Unless of course, they're not being ignored,
>>but just makes no difference to the problem.)
>>
>>Immediatly after clicking linux the system starts up, shows me the name
>>of the kernel, says it is beginning boot and freezes there, in a black
>>screen with some system information.
>>
>>Choosing "no video driver" gets me a little farther, to finishing second
>>stage install, but not to the Mandrake install program.
>>
>>Stew mentioned that he had a setting:
>>
>>root device: /dev/ram3
>>
>>I have no idea what this is.  There are no parameters for me to set to
>>the above, and I'm not sure what that means anyway.
>>
>>These troubles may or may not be related to my video card.  If that was
>>the case, it would seem that text install should work, but it's not.
>>
>>-Paul Rodriguez
>>
>>PS  I did have some trouble booting my machine after adding the kernels
>>from the Mandrake cd to the bootx folder, but that went away.
>>
>>
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Re: Network problem

2001-09-24 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> That depends.  Are you unloading/loading the module or just re-assigning
SB> the IP address?  I've had occasions here where I disconnected/reconnected
SB> and couldn't get an IP, and the problem was at the server end, that it had
SB> not released the lease on the IP.  I ended up restarting dhcpd on the
SB> server and it was fine.
SB>
SB> If the module is being unloaded/loaded and you're getting kernel oop's
SB> (which seems to happen with bmac if you try to do that), then I'd say yes,
SB> it's a kernel/module issue.
SB>
SB> What exactly are you doing?  Moving the laptop to a new location to get a
SB> new IP?  Are you running
SB>
SB> /etc/rc.d/init/network restart
SB>
SB> or
SB>
SB> service network restart
SB>
SB> After the move?

I do a

  /sbin/ifdown eth0 && /sbin/ifup eth0

I get no oops, just the dhcp fails.

I have also tried just:

  /sbin/dhcpcd -k && /sbin/dhcpcd eth0

Also fails. The laptop is at the same location.

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Re: 2.4.9-benh0

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On 22 Sep 2001, Sylvain OBEGI wrote:

> Humm.. This user seems to have too many problems with sound to be just
> not lucky! He may have a very limited knowledge in Linux & co, no?
> Could you please, at least, give us his name so we could mail bomb him?
> 

Yeah, lets get this guy!

Seriously - Thanks Sylvain for working with me on the iBook2 sound issues.
It seems like we're pretty close, just something missing.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Network problem

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:
> 
> HE> So to end this message; it seems that the dhcp server we have on
> HE> the cat-5 laptop net on my department is a bit incompatible with
> HE> something (?), as it works well with MacOS it have to be something
> HE> with either Linux or the Linux dhcp utils.
> 
> It works the first time, but not after that. I would say this is a problem
> in the gmac module right?
> 

That depends.  Are you unloading/loading the module or just re-assigning
the IP address?  I've had occasions here where I disconnected/reconnected
and couldn't get an IP, and the problem was at the server end, that it had
not released the lease on the IP.  I ended up restarting dhcpd on the
server and it was fine.

If the module is being unloaded/loaded and you're getting kernel oop's
(which seems to happen with bmac if you try to do that), then I'd say yes,
it's a kernel/module issue.

What exactly are you doing?  Moving the laptop to a new location to get a
new IP?  Are you running 

/etc/rc.d/init/network restart

or 

service network restart

After the move?

Stew Benedict

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RE: More weird depenencies

2001-09-24 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Jonathan Sailor wrote:
> 
> JS> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> JS> Hash: SHA1
> JS>
> JS> Now that I can't answer. Having 5 GB of space, I never really cared.
> 
> I am sort of very interrested of what I have installed, exactly what I
> have installed... :-)
> 

[stewb@grapefruit ~]$ rpm -qilp
/mnt/kenobippc/8.0/Mandrake/RPMS/DrakX-8.0-1mdk.ppc.rpm 
Name: DrakXRelocations: /usr 
Version : 8.0   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Mon 14 May 2001
04:46:03 PM CEST
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
grapefruit.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : Development/Perl  Source RPM:
DrakX-8.0-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 0License: GPL
Summary : wonderfull source of wonderfull DrakX
Description :
see the README for technical information
(contains no files)

Seems to be an oversite.  this is the drakx installer source code.  If
you're interested in it, CVS would probably be better, as it's changing
constantly.  Checkout the Mandrake developer pages for info on how to
access it via CVS.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Network problem

2001-09-24 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

HE> So to end this message; it seems that the dhcp server we have on
HE> the cat-5 laptop net on my department is a bit incompatible with
HE> something (?), as it works well with MacOS it have to be something
HE> with either Linux or the Linux dhcp utils.

It works the first time, but not after that. I would say this is a problem
in the gmac module right?

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[Mandrake Forum 946] Re: help needed with bootinh (fwd)

2001-09-24 Thread Denis HAVLIK


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Re: help needed with bootinh ,by

Received the two CD pack I''ve ordered some weeks ago from France.
I also have the trouble to boot it on my PM7300 with G3 ZIF carrier. Here''s what I 
did to get to the installation screen although I''m still having the problem of the 
keyboard won''t respond.

Download BootX 1.2.2 as well as vmlinux2.2.16-17fpmac from the mirror server. Put the 
all.gz from the boot folder of the boot CD and put vmlinux2.2.16-17fpmac into the 
Lunux folder. Follow the instruction and I was able to get to the initial screen after 
booting. The thing is the keyboard won''t respond. :(

Any idea what went wrong here?

PM7300 + G3 400/200
120MB RAM
OS 8.