RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.

2002-09-29 Thread Pascal Gagnon


 Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it.  You should be able to
 tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).

I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google research,
i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i can't
do any other installation that install-text.

All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line screen
and the
Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error:
enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem
or
enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem

Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi everything
from cooker.
Didn't work a month ago but now maybe...

Something to try.  I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
using text mode.  You could try the same thing.

Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I think. I
gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to rsync
2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry.

Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586) for
ppc just to start a ftp installation ?

P.





RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.

2002-09-29 Thread Pascal Gagnon

If I try a install-text then a ftp server with ADSL I get:

needs ppp_generic
file-not-found-in-archive ppp_generic.o
warning, insmod failed (ppp_generic (null)) (2)
have to insmod ppp_async
needs ppp_async
file-not-found-in-archive ppp_async.o
warning, insmod failed (ppp_async (null)) (2)
have to insmod ppp
needs ppp
file-not-found-in-archive ppp.o
warning, insmod failed (ppp (null)) (2)
PPP: sleep
execve of /sbin/pppd failed: No such file or directory

Same thing with the http server

P.



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  Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it.  You should be able to
  tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
  100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).

 I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some
 google research, i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2
 install CD did boot but i can't do any other installation that
 install-text.

 All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical
 line screen and the
 Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error:
 enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem
 or
 enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem

 Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi
 everything from cooker.
 Didn't work a month ago but now maybe...

 Something to try.  I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
 using text mode.  You could try the same thing.

 Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I
 think. I gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could
 not afford to rsync 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry.

 Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for
 i586) for ppc just to start a ftp installation ?

 P.





Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.

2002-09-29 Thread Vincent Danen


On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 10:59 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:

 Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it.  You should be able to
 tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).

 I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google 
 research,
 i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i 
 can't
 do any other installation that install-text.

Do the install in text mode then.  I know it's a PITA, but it was the 
only way I could get 8.2 and cooker to install on my G4 lamp.

 All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line 
 screen
 and the
 Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error:
 enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem
 or
 enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem

Never tried a 2.2-based install myself, but I would really think you 
need to go with a 2.4 install (or at least you should).

 Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi 
 everything
 from cooker.
 Didn't work a month ago but now maybe...

You may have some cleaning up to do (I did), but now the machine works 
quite well, aside from some other quirks.

 Something to try.  I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
 using text mode.  You could try the same thing.

 Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I 
 think. I
 gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to 
 rsync
 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry.

 Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586) 
 for
 ppc just to start a ftp installation ?

I don't know.  Someone else might (Stew?) but I have no clue on that.

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Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.

2002-09-29 Thread Vincent Danen


On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 11:21 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:

 If I try a install-text then a ftp server with ADSL I get:

 needs ppp_generic
 file-not-found-in-archive ppp_generic.o
 warning, insmod failed (ppp_generic (null)) (2)
 have to insmod ppp_async
 needs ppp_async
 file-not-found-in-archive ppp_async.o
 warning, insmod failed (ppp_async (null)) (2)
 have to insmod ppp
 needs ppp
 file-not-found-in-archive ppp.o
 warning, insmod failed (ppp (null)) (2)
 PPP: sleep
 execve of /sbin/pppd failed: No such file or directory

 Same thing with the http server

You're doing PPPoE?  I've not done that, but it sounds like you might 
not be able to do it (ie. the ppp server/client can't be run) over the 
network at all.  Is it possible to do a hdd install maybe?

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Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.

2002-09-29 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Vincent Danen wrote:

 
 On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 10:59 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:
 
  Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it.  You should be able to
  tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
  100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).
 
  I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google 
  research,
  i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i 
  can't
  do any other installation that install-text.
 
 Do the install in text mode then.  I know it's a PITA, but it was the 
 only way I could get 8.2 and cooker to install on my G4 lamp.
 
  All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line 
  screen
  and the
  Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error:
  enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem
  or
  enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem
 
 Never tried a 2.2-based install myself, but I would really think you 
 need to go with a 2.4 install (or at least you should).
 
  Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi 
  everything
  from cooker.
  Didn't work a month ago but now maybe...
 
 You may have some cleaning up to do (I did), but now the machine works 
 quite well, aside from some other quirks.
 
  Something to try.  I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
  using text mode.  You could try the same thing.
 
  Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I 
  think. I
  gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to 
  rsync
  2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry.
 
  Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586) 
  for
  ppc just to start a ftp installation ?
 
 I don't know.  Someone else might (Stew?) but I have no clue on that.
 

I could do an installer only ISO, at about 100MB or so.  Problem is
where to host it.  We did do this some time back during the 8.0 beta
period.

A couple of problems with what you're trying to do:

1) The mirrors installer does not reflect the state of the final 8.2
installer image.  I was never able to update it at the end of the cycle,
as I don't have direct write access.

2) The RPM tree is incomplete, with several rather important files
missing.  Vincent had a certain advantage in that he synced the most
current stuff directly from me.  Explanation for the state of the mirrors
as far as RPMs is twofold:
 
a) Some RPMs, though valid versions, were rejected by the upload
script I use to upload. 
b) Cooker has been frozen, so I haven't uploaded anything since
Sept 2 or so.

Finally, network installs aren't really intended to be done over the
internet.  The idea is to mirror the files locally on your own network,
and then do an install from your own ftp, http, nfs server.  If cooker was
live, there's a good chance the files would change on you in the middle of
your install, which would not play out well for your install.

An 8.2 install and updating via urpmi is probably your best bet at this
point, but you'll still get bitten by point #2 above.  Hopefully cooker
will re-open soon, and I'l be able to clean things up on the mirrors.

The net boot you were trying to do above requires you to have a local
tftpserver hosting the kernel images.  This is covered in the small guide
in the doc directory.

Test mode install isn't really that bad.  The partitioning is the portion
that is probably the most different, mostly due to limitations of what you
can do with a console based app vs. gtk.

Stew Benedict

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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot

2002-09-29 Thread Damon Garn

- Original Message -
From: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot


On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Damon Garn wrote:

 I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is
 already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to
 succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot
 I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits
 idle from that point, forcing a manual restart.

This is yaboot not working properly most likely.

  Attempted the following:
 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
 designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
 'shut-down'

What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this?  /boot?  the apple
bootstrap?)

[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as the
blessed partition where the normal startup would go to look for the boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux partitions I
created follow it. ]

  2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with
 cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk
 Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well
 as a greyed-out bootstrap partition (I suspect this to be the
 blessed partition). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them
 not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB
 and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the /
 partition, if it matters.

No, OS X will not show the Linux partitions.  Unfortunately.  =)

  3. Subscribed to this list. :)

Good move... =)

  No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I
 installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I
 could try this very thing.

My mind is fuzzy, so I'm probably not too much help, but if you can
provide the details of /dev/hda8 that'd be great.

[See above - designated by Mandrake installer as location of boot manager.]

The other option might be to boot off the 8.2 install CD into rescue
mode, then chroot your root partition (usually automatically mounted in
/mnt, so do chroot /mnt) and check your /etc/yaboot.conf file to make
sure it looks ok.  Also try running ybin -v to regenerate the
bootstrap stuff.

The other option, that I've encountered on my newer G4 imac, is I've
had to power down the imac after getting it stalling like you describe,
but on the next power up yaboot always comes up fine.  So for me it's
just a nuisance.

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