Re: INstallation Issues
Yep, that happened to me last week. I forget what Stew told me - but I printed it out so i could fix it again. (It's a work.) Ask Stew. He knows about this. At 04:13 PM 11/25/02 -0500, you wrote: This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, and without an OS i'm SOL here are the specs on my comp: 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors SuperDrive Geforce 4 Ti Pci Ethernet as well as onboard Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board discussion if you see so fit. thanks everyone Ben Schmidt Barry M. Hertzberg On Location Photography 59 Copperleaf Drive Newtown, PA 19840 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.OLPhotography.com Phone / Fax (215) 579-8727 "You Live the Moment - We'll Capture It."
Re: INstallation Issues
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, BEn wrote: > This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get > the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that > near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets Don't like the sound of the spewing i/o errors and hex digits. > past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to > the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i > get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading > second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I > assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a > waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, > and without an OS i'm SOL Welcome! We'll see if we can get you a working OS. The Mac face sounds odd to me, coming up after the 2nd stage bootloader. Pardon the questions, but I'm trying to get a feel for your partitioning setup. Do you know what partition is used for the bootstrap and linux partitions? It sounds like the OF settings are OK, since you do see part of the bootloader come up. You did by any chance choose to mount the bootstrap as "/boot" under Linux did you? If you can't get to any of this info without running Linux, or from memory, you could boot the rescue image and do some browsing from there. You may find "/" already mounted as /mnt under rescue. > here are the specs on my comp: > 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors > SuperDrive > Geforce 4 Ti > Pci Ethernet as well as onboard > Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. > any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board > discussion if you see so fit. > thanks everyone > Ben Schmidt > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: GUI Keyboard issue
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Bob Sloots wrote: > Hello Dan, > > I don't know much about the keyboard (after installation it worked, and I had > no need to change that) but I can give you my settings: > in the CLI (runlevel 3) I started (as root) the command keyboarddrake. In my > case (I use an Apple extended keyboard on a PM7600-based machine) it says: > "US keyboard" and I can change that easily. > What does your machine say, and if something else: can you change that? > > Bob. > > > I am having the same problem. When I try XFree the screen blinks > > every 4 seconds. When I run the xpmac server I get I think italian > > compose keys. > > > > I really want to use Mandrake anyone have any idea how to fix this or > > when mandrake 9 for ppc is coming out? > > > > Thanks > > Dan J. > > > > On 25 Nov 2002 at 13:28, Barry Hertzberg wrote: > > > I struggled all weekend with the keyboard issue that i had mentioned. > > > No one got back to me with any ideas on that. I have no idea why but > > > at the CLI the keyboard is fine. From the GUI all the mapping was > > > wrong. I could not even input a password. > > > > > > I wound up blowing the whole thing out and putting YDL back to see if > > > i could make it work. It did. I still want to make Mandrake work. Is > > > there a reason that my keyboard is changing and which of the X > > > windows packages should I use? > > > > > > The installer on this could be a little easier to use. There was all > > > the trouble I had with the bootstrap and now the issue with the GUI. > > > I'm hoping that I can get around this and make it work in the > > > classroom. The problem is that I'm not up on editing and working > > > outside of the GUI - so for the time being this is a real pain in the > > > neck for me. > > > > > > Why would YDL be okay with the keyboard but Mandrake is causing it to > > > map wrong? Can I fix this with a work around in the install and set > > > up? > > > My apologies to Barry, I mailed him privately and told him I'd follow up on the Xpmac keyboard issue and got sidetracked. Been busy working on the next release but you guys keep wanting to pull me back! 1) Mandrake PPC 9 - won't be one. There are plans to release 9.X, or whatever it may be called. This is the cooker track you hear us talking about on here. 2) Flashing X display. You guys should try the FAQ, archives for some of these things. If it's a MACH64 card, it's known issue with a couple of workarounds: a) Option "composite_sync" "off" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Above BusID is a good place. b) Rename the i2c driver: mv /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.bad 3) Xpmac keyboard wierdness: Xpmac doesn't read the /etc/X11/XFree86Config. It's not really even the preferred display driver but it's kept around for those few particularly difficult machines that just can't seem to use XFree with any configuration. Making changes to the keyboard settings in any of the GUI tools will have no effect. You can read the long saga of me trying to help someone to switch to XFree, which is really not that difficult, but was seemingly impossible for the person on mandrakeexpert.com. (There's a whole PPC section on there). Anyway, urpme XFree86-Xpmac should remove Xpmac and urpmi XFree86-server should install XFree86. XFdrake can be run from the command line to configure the new server. Should you really want to continue with Xpmac, you need to tell it what keyboard to use. This is done with command line switches. If you look at /usr/X11R6/bin/Xpmac, you'll see it's a shell script that runs the Xpmac binary. If you run Xpmac --help, you'll see a number of options and you'll have to experiment with keymaps. The other option is to switch back to mac keycodes, rather than linux keycodes. Since Xpmac predates the use of Linux keycodes, it naturally works with mac keycodes. I'm going to describe the US setup, for other countries, you'll need to modify accordingly: Boot the system to runlevel three (linux 3 at the "boot:" prompt) /etc/sysctl.conf Look for the line: dev.mac_hid.keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes = 1 change the "1" to a "0" /etc/sysconfig/keyboard Look for the line: KEYTABLE=us Change it to: KEYTABLE=mac-us-ext Run: sysctl -p && /etc/rc.d/init.d/keytable restart telinit 5 Should get you to the X login with a sane keymapping. If you look at the list archives, there is a nice document by Sylvain OBEGI on using linux or mac keymaps, with a subsequent thread on other methods. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: keyboard issue
Barry Hertzberg wrote: Thanks to all that helped me get Mandrake on to this iMAC. Unfortunately I still have a problem. The keyboard is not typing the correct letters when i use X. It appears to be okay from the CLI but not at the GUI. All I remember about setting up was a choice of two X systems. I did not choose the one of the left for Free X. I took the one on the right which i beleive said something about MAC - so i thought it would be a better choice. There were no choices in the set up for a particular keyboard map. Is there a way i can get this to work now? I can't even enter a pw at the GUI. It's all in gibberish at that point. Hi Barry, sorry I cant help though I share this problem with you. I chose FreeX for my installs. I went as far as making a password that I could enter and going to the mandrake control centre and re choosing the keyboard, it would work fine until the next boot. I wish you luck, I don't think much of YDL hopefully someone can pinpoint this bug so it is not carried over to future versions of PPC-MDL Thank you for the keyboarddrake tip Bob. Cheers
Re: GUI Keyboard issue
Hello Dan, I don't know much about the keyboard (after installation it worked, and I had no need to change that) but I can give you my settings: in the CLI (runlevel 3) I started (as root) the command keyboarddrake. In my case (I use an Apple extended keyboard on a PM7600-based machine) it says: "US keyboard" and I can change that easily. What does your machine say, and if something else: can you change that? Bob. > I am having the same problem. When I try XFree the screen blinks > every 4 seconds. When I run the xpmac server I get I think italian > compose keys. > > I really want to use Mandrake anyone have any idea how to fix this or > when mandrake 9 for ppc is coming out? > > Thanks > Dan J. > > On 25 Nov 2002 at 13:28, Barry Hertzberg wrote: > > I struggled all weekend with the keyboard issue that i had mentioned. > > No one got back to me with any ideas on that. I have no idea why but > > at the CLI the keyboard is fine. From the GUI all the mapping was > > wrong. I could not even input a password. > > > > I wound up blowing the whole thing out and putting YDL back to see if > > i could make it work. It did. I still want to make Mandrake work. Is > > there a reason that my keyboard is changing and which of the X > > windows packages should I use? > > > > The installer on this could be a little easier to use. There was all > > the trouble I had with the bootstrap and now the issue with the GUI. > > I'm hoping that I can get around this and make it work in the > > classroom. The problem is that I'm not up on editing and working > > outside of the GUI - so for the time being this is a real pain in the > > neck for me. > > > > Why would YDL be okay with the keyboard but Mandrake is causing it to > > map wrong? Can I fix this with a work around in the install and set > > up? > > > > Thanks for any input > > > > -- > > Barry M. Hertzberg, TTL > > > > Wm. Loesche School > > Information Technology Lab > > 595 Tomlinson Road > > Philadelphia, PA 19116 > > > > (215) 961-2519 (voice) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~ > > "Experience counts only if you learn from it." > > "Expert advice works only if you listen to it."
INstallation Issues
This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, and without an OS i'm SOL here are the specs on my comp: 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors SuperDrive Geforce 4 Ti Pci Ethernet as well as onboard Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board discussion if you see so fit. thanks everyone Ben Schmidt
Re: GUI Keyboard issue
I am having the same problem. When I try XFree the screen blinks every 4 seconds. When I run the xpmac server I get I think italian compose keys. I really want to use Mandrake anyone have any idea how to fix this or when mandrake 9 for ppc is coming out? Thanks Dan J. On 25 Nov 2002 at 13:28, Barry Hertzberg wrote: > I struggled all weekend with the keyboard issue that i had mentioned. > No one got back to me with any ideas on that. I have no idea why but > at the CLI the keyboard is fine. From the GUI all the mapping was > wrong. I could not even input a password. > > I wound up blowing the whole thing out and putting YDL back to see if > i could make it work. It did. I still want to make Mandrake work. Is > there a reason that my keyboard is changing and which of the X > windows packages should I use? > > The installer on this could be a little easier to use. There was all > the trouble I had with the bootstrap and now the issue with the GUI. > I'm hoping that I can get around this and make it work in the > classroom. The problem is that I'm not up on editing and working > outside of the GUI - so for the time being this is a real pain in the > neck for me. > > Why would YDL be okay with the keyboard but Mandrake is causing it to > map wrong? Can I fix this with a work around in the install and set > up? > > Thanks for any input > > -- > Barry M. Hertzberg, TTL > > Wm. Loesche School > Information Technology Lab > 595 Tomlinson Road > Philadelphia, PA 19116 > > (215) 961-2519 (voice) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~ > "Experience counts only if you learn from it." > "Expert advice works only if you listen to it." >
GUI Keyboard issue
I struggled all weekend with the keyboard issue that i had mentioned. No one got back to me with any ideas on that. I have no idea why but at the CLI the keyboard is fine. From the GUI all the mapping was wrong. I could not even input a password. I wound up blowing the whole thing out and putting YDL back to see if i could make it work. It did. I still want to make Mandrake work. Is there a reason that my keyboard is changing and which of the X windows packages should I use? The installer on this could be a little easier to use. There was all the trouble I had with the bootstrap and now the issue with the GUI. I'm hoping that I can get around this and make it work in the classroom. The problem is that I'm not up on editing and working outside of the GUI - so for the time being this is a real pain in the neck for me. Why would YDL be okay with the keyboard but Mandrake is causing it to map wrong? Can I fix this with a work around in the install and set up? Thanks for any input -- Barry M. Hertzberg, TTL Wm. Loesche School Information Technology Lab 595 Tomlinson Road Philadelphia, PA 19116 (215) 961-2519 (voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ "Experience counts only if you learn from it." "Expert advice works only if you listen to it."
Re: New problem!
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:19:24AM +0100, Ernst Persson wrote: > The downside is that OpenOffice.org can't display any text anymore, but > it probably just needs to be rebuilt... x86 is having similar issues. Until the bugs are worked out in fontconfig and Xft2 I'd expect a lot of this. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org "If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough." - Jim Nichols
8.2->cooker
In the process of trying to debug why the new 9.0 based installer is stalling out at loading stage2 on the resurrected 7600 machine, I decided to do a clean 8.2 install and urpmi it to cooker. Although 1 pass of --auto-select failed, I was able to do it in just a few steps, and now it's running cooker. urpmi.addmedia cooker //mnt/disk/Mandrake/RPMS urpmi.removemedia "CD 1 Cooker (cdrom1)" urpmi.removemedia "CD 2 Cooker (cdrom2)" urpmi glibc urpmi perl-base urpmi perl-base rpmdrake grpmi urpmi kdebase urpmi kernel (Since this is an OldWorld machine, I had to ftp the kernel and initrd to another machine to get it on the MacOS side for booting. Also, since mesh and mac53c94 are integrated in recent kernels, I had to remove the references to them in /etc/modules.conf so mkinitrd would run without error) urpmi --auto-select (I was asked to make one choice of libgnomeprint2-2_0-2.1.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm vs libgnomeprint2.0_0-1.116.0-2mdk.ppc.rpm. I chose the 2nd, as the first pass of auto-select I tried I had picked the first and it failed. In reality only one of these should be available, my repository needs some cleaning. This auto-select too some time, over 300 packages, and the makedev process took quite a long time, so you need to be patient here.) urpmi --auto-select (This 2nd pass was just for good measure and ended up loading the first of the 2 libgnomeprint packages listed above). urpmi openssh-server (So I could log in and write this, after setting up my new kernel and initrd in BootX). [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.19-19mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-3mdk)) #1 Mon Nov 11 18:19:54 EST 2002 [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo cpu : 604 clock : 132MHz revision: 3.5 (pvr 0004 0305) bogomips: 263.78 machine : Power Macintosh motherboard : AAPL,7500 MacRISC detected as : 16 (PowerMac 7500) pmac flags : L2 cache: 256K unified memory : 160MB pmac-generation : OldWorld KDE3 is not exactly a pleasure to run on this machine, but it does come up. The frozen adb mouse in kdm we had in 8.2 is also gone. In all cooker-ppc is quite usable at the moment, if anyone wants to give it a whirl. The safest thing, of course, if you need your machine for work etc., would be to do a 2nd 8.2 install and upgrade that one to cooker, so you could fall back on the original 8.2 install should you need to. HTH, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
