Re: How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R?
Thanks again Stew, for being so helpful! Alas... I have more questions! (see below) 2) When I try to install security patches from one of the mirror sites, using the Mandrake Updater, it locates them just fine, but refuses to do the updates because the two packages (sudo and imlib) that need updating are already installed. Indeed they are already installed, but the installed version is the buggy/insecure one. How do I get it to do what I want? Am I missing a check-box or pull-down menu somewhere? Ahh, we just had an internal discussion on this, again. As things stand now, the updater will not work for PPC, for a couple of reasons: 1) rpmdrake needs a patch to look in the right path for PPC updates 2) the web page that lists the update source doesn't even have entries for PPC I'm trying to get the appropriate folks the act on these, but until then you'll have to manually download the updates. Stew Benedict It's good to know that the problem wasn't *entirely* with me! (8-) So, to do that (download the updates and install them) (I'm guessing now:) I ftp to the mirror site, locate the PPC rpm's that I need, retrieve them into a previously empty directory somewhere, and do : rpm -i *.rpm in that directory. Or is there some more urpmi or rpmdrake magic that I'm missing? Thanks again for your patience! Rick
How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R?
I hope this is an RTFM question. Trouble is, I can't figure out which FM to Read? A while back I installed the PPC 8.2beta2 release on my Mac. As of yesterday, I downloaded the 8.2 production ISO's and burned them to CDs. S How do I apply the updates on the new CDs to my existing installation? can it be done without doing a complete re-install? can it be done without examining each rpm individually for updates? Thanks, Rick
Re: How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Rick Thomas wrote: I hope this is an RTFM question. Trouble is, I can't figure out which FM to Read? A while back I installed the PPC 8.2beta2 release on my Mac. As of yesterday, I downloaded the 8.2 production ISO's and burned them to CDs. S How do I apply the updates on the new CDs to my existing installation? can it be done without doing a complete re-install? can it be done without examining each rpm individually for updates? Sure, urpmi or rpmdrake. You just need to add your new media to the database. (see urpmi.addmedia, or the gui in rpmdrake). Once your media is added, you can do: urpmi --auto-select to update things. urpmi --help will give you some clues, as well as urpmi.addmedia --help (both in /usr/sbin - off the beaten path) Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R?
First of all: Thanks! Stew, for the pointers. That was (most of) what I needed. Now, the Hmmm...' part: Well... After some puzzling over the urpmi.addmedia(8) man page (some examples would be really helpful on that manpage.) I decided to do urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://dev/cdrom with the bluebird CD1 in the drive. That seems to have gotten package list info for both CD1 and CD2 and integrated it into the database. (I was totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this using the gui in rpmdrake -- even after perusing the tutorial from the CD1. Am I just dumb, or is there a section missing from the tutorial on adding new CD media?) Then I did, as Stew suggested, urpmi --autoselect and it updated/installed a bunch of packages. So I guess everything's cool. (Once again, I was totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this with the rpmdrake gui. Thank goodness for command language interfaces! says I.) I still have some questions: 1) Did it install any new kernel parts? If so, what do I have to do to take advantage of them? (Even if there were no kernel changes between PPC/8.2beta2 (cooker) and PPC/8.2 (bluebird), the question still stands. How do I take advantage of new kernel stuff, when it becomes available?) Do I need to rerun ybin? I'm not a total newby -- I've read the ybin and yaboot ( so on) man pages (and understood them! -- compared to urpmi(8) and cousins, they managed to make the normally murky subject [of booting a kernel] crystal clear.). 2) When I try to install security patches from one of the mirror sites, using the Mandrake Updater, it locates them just fine, but refuses to do the updates because the two packages (sudo and imlib) that need updating are already installed. Indeed they are already installed, but the installed version is the buggy/insecure one. How do I get it to do what I want? Am I missing a check-box or pull-down menu somewhere? Thanks! Rick From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:20:23 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R? On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Rick Thomas wrote: I hope this is an RTFM question. Trouble is, I can't figure out which FM to Read? A while back I installed the PPC 8.2beta2 release on my Mac. As of yesterday, I downloaded the 8.2 production ISO's and burned them to CDs. S How do I apply the updates on the new CDs to my existing installation? can it be done without doing a complete re-install? can it be done without examining each rpm individually for updates? Sure, urpmi or rpmdrake. You just need to add your new media to the database. (see urpmi.addmedia, or the gui in rpmdrake). Once your media is added, you can do: urpmi --auto-select to update things. urpmi --help will give you some clues, as well as urpmi.addmedia --help (both in /usr/sbin - off the beaten path) Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: How to apply updates in 8.2 ISOs and CDs -- Which TFM to R?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Rick Thomas wrote: First of all: Thanks! Stew, for the pointers. That was (most of) what I needed. Now, the Hmmm...' part: Well... After some puzzling over the urpmi.addmedia(8) man page (some examples would be really helpful on that manpage.) I decided to do urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://dev/cdrom with the bluebird CD1 in the drive. That seems to have gotten package list info for both CD1 and CD2 and integrated it into the database. (I was totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this using the gui in rpmdrake -- even after perusing the tutorial from the CD1. Am I just dumb, or is there a section missing from the tutorial on adding new CD media?) Then I did, as Stew suggested, urpmi --autoselect and it updated/installed a bunch of packages. So I guess everything's cool. (Once again, I was totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this with the rpmdrake gui. Thank goodness for command language interfaces! says I.) Guess I could have gone into more detail. ;^) The Mandrake tools are a little light on man pages. Developers don't really like to document much, but I'm glad you worked it out. I tend to use the command line more myself. In rpmdrake, it's under Define Sources, and then New. Once you do this, I believe Mandrake Update may do the updating for you, but I could be wrong (I use urpmi most of the time). I still have some questions: 1) Did it install any new kernel parts? If so, what do I have to do to take advantage of them? (Even if there were no kernel changes between PPC/8.2beta2 (cooker) and PPC/8.2 (bluebird), the question still stands. How do I take advantage of new kernel stuff, when it becomes available?) Do I need to rerun ybin? This I do know about. Part of rpm install of a kernel runs installkernel which makes an initrd if needed, and adds a yaboot entry and runs ybin. Your old kernel is left as the default, but you should now be able to choose the new one at the yaboot prompt. My last kernel update, aside from the rebuild I just did for ide-cs was: * Wed Mar 27 2002 Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-1mdk - new rivafb patches for PPC, from Ani Joshi/YDL - 2.4.18-6.1mdk. (there was also an experimental power management build, that I pulled, as it didn't help those folks with sleep problems) I'm not a total newby -- I've read the ybin and yaboot ( so on) man pages (and understood them! -- compared to urpmi(8) and cousins, they managed to make the normally murky subject [of booting a kernel] crystal clear.). 2) When I try to install security patches from one of the mirror sites, using the Mandrake Updater, it locates them just fine, but refuses to do the updates because the two packages (sudo and imlib) that need updating are already installed. Indeed they are already installed, but the installed version is the buggy/insecure one. How do I get it to do what I want? Am I missing a check-box or pull-down menu somewhere? Ahh, we just had an internal discussion on this, again. As things stand now, the updater will not work for PPC, for a couple of reasons: 1) rpmdrake needs a patch to look in the right path for PPC updates 2) the web page that lists the update source doesn't even have entries for PPC I'm trying to get the appropriate folks the act on these, but until them you'll have to manually download the updates. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
