Re: PPC install help files [Was: 7600 almost there]

2002-05-22 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 21 May 2002, Rick Thomas wrote:

 
 
  I guess it's really up to the
  installer team, though, what they'll allow.
  
  Stew Benedict
 
 So... How do we write to the installer team to let them know (in a friendly
 way) that PPC users are paying customers and need architecture specific help
 files, just like the x86 users?
 

The installer team monitors [EMAIL PROTECTED] As things stand at
the moment, the PPC installer is not quite in sync with the main one, for
various reasons.  When a new iteration starts I generally try to sync back
up, but at some point I usually again deviate because it just becomes too
time consuming to try to keep up with the installer team and get the thing
to build/work on PPC.

Stew Benedict

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Re: PPC install help files [Was: 7600 almost there]

2002-05-21 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 21 May 2002, Rick Thomas wrote:

 Stew,
 
 The tutorial is great (even excellent) and very helpful, but the online
 help is there-when-you-need-it.  Either way, if it's x86 specific and I'm
 installing on a PPC, it's just frustrating, not helpful.
 
 My vote goes for putting the PPC stuff in both places (of course, I don't
 have to do the work! (;)  )  Is there any way we can be of assistance here?
 
 

I agree, right on the screen is the best, I know myself, I don't look at
documentation/manuals until I'm stuck.  The problem is there's more to it
than just adding the text in the installer.  That same text feeds manuals
etc. (of which there are none on PPC), so they don't want PPC stuff in
there confusing the issue on the x86 side.  Also, translators work on all
that text to get it presentable in other languages. I suppose the thing to
do would be to break out the help portion of drakx into arch specific
sections, and then see if we could get all that translated. Currently the
only other arch we support is ia64, and I don't believe it's that much
different than x86.  I can look at whether it would be possible to do this
for the next iteration.

Stew Benedict

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Re: PPC install help files [Was: 7600 almost there]

2002-05-21 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:42:50PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote:
 I suppose the thing to
 do would be to break out the help portion of drakx into arch specific
 sections, and then see if we could get all that translated. Currently the
 only other arch we support is ia64, and I don't believe it's that much
 different than x86.  I can look at whether it would be possible to do this
 for the next iteration.

Why not introduce something in there similar to RPM's ifarch?  That way
when built on x86 or ia64 ppc stuff will be ignored.  When manuals are
generated for x86 ppc stuff can be ignored.  However there is only one
source of the manuals.

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Re: PPC install help files [Was: 7600 almost there]

2002-05-21 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 21 May 2002, Ben Reser wrote:

 On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:42:50PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote:
  I suppose the thing to
  do would be to break out the help portion of drakx into arch specific
  sections, and then see if we could get all that translated. Currently the
  only other arch we support is ia64, and I don't believe it's that much
  different than x86.  I can look at whether it would be possible to do this
  for the next iteration.
 
 Why not introduce something in there similar to RPM's ifarch?  That way
 when built on x86 or ia64 ppc stuff will be ignored.  When manuals are
 generated for x86 ppc stuff can be ignored.  However there is only one
 source of the manuals.
 

That's kind of along the lines I was thinking.  There is similar coding
all through drakx, and that was originally how I had done some of the PPC
help that was completely different that x86. I guess it's really up to the
installer team, though, what they'll allow.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoft
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3
IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc





Re: PPC install help files [Was: 7600 almost there]

2002-05-21 Thread Rick Thomas



 I guess it's really up to the
 installer team, though, what they'll allow.
 
 Stew Benedict

So... How do we write to the installer team to let them know (in a friendly
way) that PPC users are paying customers and need architecture specific help
files, just like the x86 users?

Thanks, Stew, for all your good work!  Mandrake for PPC is a great product.
Let's work together to make it even greater.  (Wow, I sound just like Steve
Jobs... Scary.  ;-)

Enjoy!

Rick