Re: sleep mode revisited
On Wed Jul 31, 2002 at 12:32:42AM -0400, Ornitorinco wrote:
Hi,
I'm sleep deprived too ;-). My case is worse though.
I have a new powerbook, I have installed the benH kernel
(2.4.19rc3-ben0 from the binary though): when I close the lid
it seems to put the machine to sleep (although the breathing
light does not go on).. when I open the lid the machine simply
stays like that. No life signs whatsoever. No matter what I do,
click, type, whatever I don't know how to make it wake up.
Well, with the Mandrake kernel I did better than this... the sleep
light would come on, but only in X would it not come back. In a
console, sleeping worked fine.
I've got both 2.4.19rc3 and 2.4.19rc3-ben0 (currently booted into
2.4.19rc3) and it works just peachy. Both were built from source.
It is in some kind of suspended mode because the power button
doesn't inmediately turn it on, I have to push it for a while
as if I was to hard turn it off and then turn it on back again.
Note this happens both on X and on console, I have both pmud
and powerbuttonsd running. Can you tell me which of versions
of those are you running? any special config?
No special configs... I've got pmud-0.10.1-1mdk installed,
pbbuttonsd-0.4.10-3rph and gtkpbbuttons-0.4.6b-4rph (the rph packages
are basic rebuilds of the packages Ben mentioned on the list a while
ago). The only config changes were to /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf to set pmu
to /dev/pmu and mixer to /dev/mixer (forget what the original settings
were). Are you sure that pbbuttonsd is running? It would silently
error out on me and say OK when starting with the initscript, but
would actually never start because the paths to the mixer and pmu were
wrong. Running pbbuttonsd on the commandline directly will tell you
if there are errors in the config.
If anybody has any suggestions I'm willing to try it out.
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Re: sleep mode revisited
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: No special configs... I've got pmud-0.10.1-1mdk installed, pbbuttonsd-0.4.10-3rph and gtkpbbuttons-0.4.6b-4rph (the rph packages are basic rebuilds of the packages Ben mentioned on the list a while ago). The only config changes were to /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf to set pmu to /dev/pmu and mixer to /dev/mixer (forget what the original settings were). Are you sure that pbbuttonsd is running? It would silently error out on me and say OK when starting with the initscript, but would actually never start because the paths to the mixer and pmu were wrong. Running pbbuttonsd on the commandline directly will tell you if there are errors in the config. Those config changes were only necessary because you weren't using devfs. Anyone using devfs will have pbbuttonsd working out of the box. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: sleep mode revisited
On Wed Jul 31, 2002 at 10:30:11AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
No special configs... I've got pmud-0.10.1-1mdk installed,
pbbuttonsd-0.4.10-3rph and gtkpbbuttons-0.4.6b-4rph (the rph packages
are basic rebuilds of the packages Ben mentioned on the list a while
ago). The only config changes were to /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf to set pmu
to /dev/pmu and mixer to /dev/mixer (forget what the original settings
were). Are you sure that pbbuttonsd is running? It would silently
error out on me and say OK when starting with the initscript, but
would actually never start because the paths to the mixer and pmu were
wrong. Running pbbuttonsd on the commandline directly will tell you
if there are errors in the config.
Those config changes were only necessary because you weren't using
devfs. Anyone using devfs will have pbbuttonsd working out of the box.
Hmmm... you're right. Just checked... you can tell it to use
non-devfs entries and it will work whether devfs is used or not (devfs
makes the correct symlinks). Wondered about that because my benH
kernel doesn't do devfs, but the linuxppc kernel does (just my playing
around).
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Re: sleep mode revisited
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:41:44AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Hmmm... you're right. Just checked... you can tell it to use non-devfs entries and it will work whether devfs is used or not (devfs makes the correct symlinks). Wondered about that because my benH kernel doesn't do devfs, but the linuxppc kernel does (just my playing around). When I packaged it on my stock 8.2 system pbbuttonsd didn't like the symlinks. That may have been fixed in a subsequent release... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: sleep mode revisited
Hi, I did correct the config /dev/pmud, so maybe I'm missing devfs with the new kernel. I'll check on that. I'm sure I am running pbbuttonsd because the start script would give an error initially. It couldn't insert the module since in benh kernels these things are not modules but built in the kernel. Once I eliminated that from the script it ran merrily. Now that I think about, I really should compile the kernel, it will be easier to do the debugging. Two questions: a) does the benh kernel have devfs at all? or is it just a matter of enabling it at config time? b) do you have the .config resulting from your compile? that way I don't have to go guessing ppc options. I've only compiled intel kernels before. Thanks, Platy On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 13:49, Ben Reser wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:41:44AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Hmmm... you're right. Just checked... you can tell it to use non-devfs entries and it will work whether devfs is used or not (devfs makes the correct symlinks). Wondered about that because my benH kernel doesn't do devfs, but the linuxppc kernel does (just my playing around). When I packaged it on my stock 8.2 system pbbuttonsd didn't like the symlinks. That may have been fixed in a subsequent release... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: sleep mode revisited
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:32:42AM -0400, Ornitorinco wrote: Hi, I'm sleep deprived too ;-). My case is worse though. I have a new powerbook, I have installed the benH kernel (2.4.19rc3-ben0 from the binary though): when I close the lid it seems to put the machine to sleep (although the breathing light does not go on).. when I open the lid the machine simply stays like that. No life signs whatsoever. No matter what I do, click, type, whatever I don't know how to make it wake up. It is in some kind of suspended mode because the power button doesn't inmediately turn it on, I have to push it for a while as if I was to hard turn it off and then turn it on back again. Note this happens both on X and on console, I have both pmud and powerbuttonsd running. Can you tell me which of versions of those are you running? any special config? If anybody has any suggestions I'm willing to try it out. Thanks, Platy ps. maybe compiling from source would do the trick? This is a different problem. Your powerbook is probably new enough that it's not supported by the kernel/pmud. And just because other people have say a TiBook or whatever you have doesn't mean apple hasn't made some minute change that doesn't create an issue (they do it all the time). The issue that Vincent found a solution to was machines that would go to sleep and wake up when in console mode but not under X... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: sleep mode
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:12, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:48:42AM +0200, Henrik Edlund wrote: Do anyone feel that 8.0ppc was rushed out the door? Sadly, given that there are problems with MandrakeUpdate (lack of archetecture path in the updates dir path). It's a know problem with primary server. Problem is currently same with Intel version. It should be solved soon. Among other little things. Which ones? Please give us feedback or we will not be able to fix them. If you can, please report bugs here: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/. If you can't, report them here. However, IMHO it's still the best PPC distribution out there. Thanks :-) -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: sleep mode
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 23:08, you wrote: QM pmud is for (older) laptops; I am almost certain that you will need QM somet other solution for a desktop... RE: desktop power management APM kernel stuff maybe ? I do not know whether this is supported on PPC architecture. There is an emulation in latest Benh kernels. What kind of power (battery, processor, screen) montor should I use for my iBook2? RE: portables You need two separate things: 1) something to put the machine to sleep, detect low-battery, report battery levels. This is pmud 2) some cool widget for your desktop which waves/flashes/makes sounds/draws ace pictures etc which includes some battery level report. I would recommend gkrellm w/ the gkrellm-pmu plugin for this. Apparently bronxe-key powerbooks, Titaniums are supported by pmud now. /.../ But for Titanium, you also need a recent kernel (2.4.8-benh0 or higher) if you want use sleep function on a Titanium. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Paris, FRANCE --David
Re: sleep mode
You need two separate things: 1) something to put the machine to sleep, detect low-battery, report battery levels. This is pmud 2) some cool widget for your desktop which waves/flashes/makes sounds/draws ace pictures etc which includes some battery level report. I would recommend gkrellm w/ the gkrellm-pmu plugin for this. Apparently bronxe-key powerbooks, Titaniums are supported by pmud now. /.../ But for Titanium, you also need a recent kernel (2.4.8-benh0 or higher) if you want use sleep function on a Titanium. For Titanium and iBook 2. Sylvain OBEGI Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 661913
Re: sleep mode
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Toby Givens wrote: TG Yes...but so was OSX. :-) TG TG Ain't life fun? Well OSX is a non-Free product so you expect it be useless, faulty and forbidden for use... :-) I noticed an 8.1 beta release for x86 now, can we expect a simultaneous 8.1ppc stable release together with 8.1x86? Is MandrakeSoft making a commitment to PPC as it has to x86 or is this just a test-run to test the market? I am considering a complete move from x86 architecture to PPC as I am tired of badly integrated hardware. I considered SuSE a few weeks ago, but their commitment to the PPC platform seems to be very low, not having released 7.2ppc for many months. Maybe a bit off-topic for the cooker list, but I don't believe MandrakeSoft provides any other list for PPC discussions? Regards, Henrik -- Henrik Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.edlund.org/ You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens. -- Angelina Jolie
Re: sleep mode
I hope Mandrake continues to provide parallel release support for x86 and ppc. I've used Mandrake-Linux on the dreaded x86 platform for some time, usually with good results. I would imagine that it will take a bit of time for the ppc port to mature as it continues to do on the x86 platform. In the meantime...we must keep on cooking. Fortunately I haven't leap into the OSX debacle. Man...what was Apple thinking when they used the BSD kernel??? No flames please! I can't help myself...I'm a Linux man. What does this have to do with sleep mode? I don't know either. BTW - I don't have a fresh copy of 8.1 ppc yet but soonvery soon. tkg On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Toby Givens wrote: TG Yes...but so was OSX. :-) TG TG Ain't life fun? Well OSX is a non-Free product so you expect it be useless, faulty and forbidden for use... :-) I noticed an 8.1 beta release for x86 now, can we expect a simultaneous 8.1ppc stable release together with 8.1x86? Is MandrakeSoft making a commitment to PPC as it has to x86 or is this just a test-run to test the market? I am considering a complete move from x86 architecture to PPC as I am tired of badly integrated hardware. I considered SuSE a few weeks ago, but their commitment to the PPC platform seems to be very low, not having released 7.2ppc for many months. Maybe a bit off-topic for the cooker list, but I don't believe MandrakeSoft provides any other list for PPC discussions? Regards, Henrik -- Henrik Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.edlund.org/ You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens. -- Angelina Jolie -- T.K. Givens 3467 Confederate Highway Lodge, SC 29082
Re: sleep mode
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:48:42AM +0200, Henrik Edlund wrote: Do anyone feel that 8.0ppc was rushed out the door? Sadly, given that there are problems with MandrakeUpdate (lack of archetecture path in the updates dir path). Among other little things. However, IMHO it's still the best PPC distribution out there. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org Wizard's First Rule - People are stupid, they will believe anything if they want it to be true or they fear it is true - Terry Goodkind
RE: sleep mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just my luck - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sylvain OBEGI Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sleep mode You need two separate things: 1) something to put the machine to sleep, detect low-battery, report battery levels. This is pmud 2) some cool widget for your desktop which waves/flashes/makes sounds/draws ace pictures etc which includes some battery level report. I would recommend gkrellm w/ the gkrellm-pmu plugin for this. Apparently bronxe-key powerbooks, Titaniums are supported by pmud now. /.../ But for Titanium, you also need a recent kernel (2.4.8-benh0 or higher) if you want use sleep function on a Titanium. For Titanium and iBook 2. Sylvain OBEGI Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 661913 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBO4648d0IbHN+6I/YEQIMawCg8YaryOkGozAahYGTPxyiTBvBIcUAoNdg J5P1hknfBRj5967w1TPwHI4j =9Qml -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sleep mode
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:23:16PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: How can I put my mandrake 8.0 box into sleep mode on the ppc? At the very least I'd like the monitor shut down after X minutes... I tried setting the power-off settings in the gnome control panel, but it only turns the screensaver on. Since this machine gets toasty real fast, I'd like to have it go into sleep mode after 20 minutes of being idle... any ideas on how i can accomplish this? I don't recall what type of machine you had. But PMUD is probably the package you need to install and run. Unfortunately programs like the gnome control panel are going to try and use the PC style Power Management. Apple having a serious case of NIH had to make up their own. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org Wizard's First Rule - People are stupid, they will believe anything if they want it to be true or they fear it is true - Terry Goodkind
