MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Daniel R. Broemmelsiek
The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on this 
Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass from BootX?

Dan




Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:

 The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on this 
 Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass from BootX?
 
 Dan
 

Did you use the ext3 initrd? (BootX folder)

Stew Benedict

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Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:

 On Friday 07 February 2003 04:24 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:
  On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Daniel R. Broemmelsiek wrote:
   The kernel keeps mounting my ext3 file system as an ext2 file system on
   this Wallstreet.  Why?  Is there a particular kernel argument to pass
   from BootX?
  
   Dan
 
  Did you use the ext3 initrd? (BootX folder)
 
  Stew Benedict
 
 When?  To run the installer I had to use vmlinux and all.gz during which I 
 just used existing partitions.  Any other combination I tried went into 
 kernel panic.  Install went fine so at reboot I point BootX to the 
 vmlinuz-2.4.20-2mdk kernel and my partition /dev/hda10 because that's where 
 it's going to find the loadable modules in /lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/.  So I'm 
 curious, when and where does the kernel want to see 
 initrd-2.4.20-2mdk.img-ext3?
 
 By the way, kmail composer is doing funky black screen flashes while I'm 
 writing this.  The first annoying thing I've found.
 

Any module need to access / needs to be loaded by an initrd.  Folks
using bootX to load linux have this extra grief to deal with.  Since you
are using ext3 on / and it's modular, you need the initrd I created in
the BootX folder to be able to access and mount that partition as ext3.
Same would apply for scsi or other journalled filesystems.  For the final,
I'll try to have initrd's for all the journalled filesystems in that
folder.


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Re: MDK 9.1 vmlinux2.4.20 ext3

2003-02-07 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 07 February 2003 02:27 pm, Stew Benedict wrote:

 Any module need to access / needs to be loaded by an initrd.  Folks
 using bootX to load linux have this extra grief to deal with.  Since you
 are using ext3 on / and it's modular, you need the initrd I created in
 the BootX folder to be able to access and mount that partition as ext3.
 Same would apply for scsi or other journalled filesystems.  For the final,
 I'll try to have initrd's for all the journalled filesystems in that
 folder.

Yes and I know but some of us can simply not afford to have a mac that is new 
and shiny but yet we still like the little buggers. Untill the prices of the 
used hardware fall inline to what it is really worth I dare say I wont be 
owning a new world mac for quite a long time.

Anyway Stew thanks for your help with this stuff since I know the old world 
macs are not officially supported anyway.


 Stew Benedict

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Re: ext3

2002-04-14 Thread Anne et Bertrand

Le 2002.04.12 21:12, Stew Benedict a écrit :
 On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Kener, Andy wrote:
 
  Is there support in the default 2.4 kernel included in 8.2rc2 for ext3
  filesystems?  if no one knows, how do i check?
 
 
 ext3, reiser, jfs and xfs
 
 You just need to be careful on Oldworld if you setup / as journalled.
 
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Why ?

Bertrand Dekoninck




ext3

2002-04-12 Thread Kener, Andy

Is there support in the default 2.4 kernel included in 8.2rc2 for ext3
filesystems?  if no one knows, how do i check?

thanks

andy

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-12 Thread Jonathan Sailor

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What exactly are ext3 and ResierFS anyways?

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB The installer prepares an initrd if it's needed (ie SCSI drive). 
In the
SB case of Reiser, as I said, it's untested on PPC, so I'm not sure
what
SB will happen.
SB
SB Just as an aside, unless the endian safe Reiser stuff has made it
into
SB official kernel tree, each time the kernel is updated, PPC Reiser
gets
SB broken and has to be reworked.  So if you want Reiser and the
latest
SB bleeding edge kernel, be prepared to rework patches.

This seems like I want to install ext2 instead and wait for ext3 in
Mandrake 8.1. Migration back and forth between ext2 and ext3 is far
easier.

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-12 Thread Jonathan Sailor

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Thanks

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Jonathan Sailor wrote:

JS What exactly are ext3 and ResierFS anyways?

ext3 is a file system that builds on the long stability of the ext2
file
system which is what most Linux distributions used, and still use, up
until ReiserFS came along. ext2 is an improved version of the
original ext
file system from the early Linux days. ext2 has been stable at least
since
1995.

ext3 just add journaling to the ext2 file system and makes it
possible to
later reverse to plain old ext2 without journaling.

ReiserFS is a totally written from scratch file system by Hans
Reiser. It
was the first journaling file system for Linux.

Other new journaling file systems for Linux include JFS from IBM, and
XFS
from Silicon Graphics.

If you need to know what a journaling file system is I suggest Google
as I
don't want to go further into details here.

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ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Ryan C. Gordon


Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
recommendations for the best way to get them installed on Mandrake/PPC? I
just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait through a
fsck.  :)

Thanks,

--ryan.






Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

 
 Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
 recommendations for the best way to get them installed on Mandrake/PPC? I
 just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait through a
 fsck.  :)
 

ReiserFS endian-safe patches are in place.  I did a bit of testing a while
back and found no issues with it.  The installer is not setup to propose
Reiser at the moment on PPC.  In my testing, I made a spare partition
Reiser, then transferred my data, using the reiser tools, edited fstab and
proceeded to use the new partitions.  I did not try to use Reiser on /.

ext3 is an unknown to me on PPC at this time

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB
SB On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
SB
SB 
SB  Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
SB  recommendations for the best way to get them installed on Mandrake/PPC? I
SB  just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait through a
SB  fsck.  :)
SB 
SB
SB ReiserFS endian-safe patches are in place.  I did a bit of testing a while
SB back and found no issues with it.  The installer is not setup to propose
SB Reiser at the moment on PPC.  In my testing, I made a spare partition
SB Reiser, then transferred my data, using the reiser tools, edited fstab and
SB proceeded to use the new partitions.  I did not try to use Reiser on /.
SB
SB ext3 is an unknown to me on PPC at this time

What is the procedure then if I want to run Reiser on all my partitions?
Should I boot from the CD and makefs the partitions before I start the
install program? Will the instlal program honor already formatted
drives?

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Jonathan Sailor

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It should.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB
SB On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
SB
SB 
SB  Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
SB  recommendations for the best way to get them installed on
Mandrake/PPC? I
SB  just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait
through a
SB  fsck.  :)
SB 
SB
SB ReiserFS endian-safe patches are in place.  I did a bit of
testing a while
SB back and found no issues with it.  The installer is not setup to
propose
SB Reiser at the moment on PPC.  In my testing, I made a spare
partition
SB Reiser, then transferred my data, using the reiser tools, edited
fstab and
SB proceeded to use the new partitions.  I did not try to use Reiser
on /.
SB
SB ext3 is an unknown to me on PPC at this time

What is the procedure then if I want to run Reiser on all my
partitions?
Should I boot from the CD and makefs the partitions before I start
the
install program? Will the instlal program honor already formatted
drives?

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB I have not tried it, so I can't really recommend a procedure.  Nor did I
SB try anything with Reiser and the installer.  Obviously Reiser code is in
SB the installer as it is the same one used for Intel, but at the time I was
SB more concerned with getting proper partition, ext2, and bootstrap setup
SB going.
SB
SB I don't know if yaboot would have any issue or not.  You would need the
SB reiser modules in your initrd for sure.
SB
SB If you do decide to experiment, I'd like to hear your results.

I would of course keep /boot as ext2 as it is a waste to have reiser
there. Do I still need the reiser modules in my initrd then? If so, how do
I do? I am willing to experiment, as soon as my new iBook2 arrives from
Taiwan.

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Jonathan Sailor

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If yaboot didn't support ResierFS, then you would need an ext2
partition for the kernel, a root, and a HFS bootstrap, at minimum so
why not just make one for booting?

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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Jonathan Sailor wrote:
 
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 JS I might suggest making an ext2 partition for /boot just to make
 JS yaboot happy. Or since yaboot needs an HFS partition, you might
 just JS want one HFS partition for yaboot and /boot.
 
 Can I, or should I, have /boot as an HFS partition? How does that
 work? (I am pretty new to running Linux on Mac hardware, but have
 experience since 1993 on x86. I just did the huge decision to move
 from the x86 entirely to the PPC architecture.)
 

You can, and I believe LinuxPPC does this, but I don't see the
benefit.
We mix MacOS and Linux as little as possible.  The bootstrap is a
necessary evil, but the rest of the OS resides on the Linux side. 
Back
when BootX was the norm, there was a benefit to being able to move
kernels
etc. back and forth between MacOS and Linux, but it's really not
needed
now, on NewWorld machines.   I have also operated with a larger
bootstrap
and put the kernel there, but what do you really gain?  If the
filesystem
is trashed enough to lose the kernel, you're not going to get very
far
anyway, and you may as well resort to using the install CD in rescue
mode
to pick up the pieces.

Stew Benedict

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Sylvain OBEGI wrote:

SO It also seems that before being delivered, they stop by Apple's office.

Not according to the person I talked to. If you had add-ons, like
printers, they stop by Eire (here in Europe) so be repackaged with
add-ons. but not otherwise.

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB In that scenario, you may still need them, as the modules reside
SB on /lib and you'll need them to mount /.  To assure they(it) is
SB included in the initrd image, use the --with= option:
SB
SB [root@imac root]# /sbin/mkinitrd --with=reiserfs myimage.img
SB 2.4.4-6.2mdk

I have never had to use ramdisks during my 9 years of Linux so can you
explain exactly where and when I do that?

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:
 
 SB
 SB On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
 SB
 SB 
 SB  Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
 SB  recommendations for the best way to get them installed on Mandrake/PPC? I
 SB  just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait through a
 SB  fsck.  :)
 SB 
 SB
 SB ReiserFS endian-safe patches are in place.  I did a bit of testing a while
 SB back and found no issues with it.  The installer is not setup to propose
 SB Reiser at the moment on PPC.  In my testing, I made a spare partition
 SB Reiser, then transferred my data, using the reiser tools, edited fstab and
 SB proceeded to use the new partitions.  I did not try to use Reiser on /.
 SB
 SB ext3 is an unknown to me on PPC at this time
 
 What is the procedure then if I want to run Reiser on all my partitions?
 Should I boot from the CD and makefs the partitions before I start the
 install program? Will the instlal program honor already formatted
 drives?
 

I have not tried it, so I can't really recommend a procedure.  Nor did I
try anything with Reiser and the installer.  Obviously Reiser code is in
the installer as it is the same one used for Intel, but at the time I was
more concerned with getting proper partition, ext2, and bootstrap setup
going.

I don't know if yaboot would have any issue or not.  You would need the
reiser modules in your initrd for sure.

If you do decide to experiment, I'd like to hear your results.

Stew Benedict

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Jonathan Sailor

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Ext3?

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Are ReiserFS and/or ext3 stable for PPC?  If so, has anyone got
recommendations for the best way to get them installed on
Mandrake/PPC? I
just kicked the plug out of my iMac, and had to suffer the wait
through a
fsck.  :)

Thanks,

- --ryan.


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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Henrik Edlund

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Jonathan Sailor wrote:

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JS
JS - From Taiwan?

They are being built in Taiwan according to the person I spoke to at
Apple. When they are built they are shipped to the buyer. Build time
(queue time I would say) is 9 days currently.

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RE: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Stew Benedict


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Jonathan Sailor wrote:
 
 JS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 JS Hash: SHA1
 JS
 JS I might suggest making an ext2 partition for /boot just to make
 JS yaboot happy. Or since yaboot needs an HFS partition, you might just
 JS want one HFS partition for yaboot and /boot.
 
 Can I, or should I, have /boot as an HFS partition? How does that work? (I
 am pretty new to running Linux on Mac hardware, but have experience since
 1993 on x86. I just did the huge decision to move from the x86 entirely to
 the PPC architecture.)
 

You can, and I believe LinuxPPC does this, but I don't see the benefit.
We mix MacOS and Linux as little as possible.  The bootstrap is a
necessary evil, but the rest of the OS resides on the Linux side.  Back
when BootX was the norm, there was a benefit to being able to move kernels
etc. back and forth between MacOS and Linux, but it's really not needed
now, on NewWorld machines.   I have also operated with a larger bootstrap
and put the kernel there, but what do you really gain?  If the filesystem
is trashed enough to lose the kernel, you're not going to get very far
anyway, and you may as well resort to using the install CD in rescue mode
to pick up the pieces.

Stew Benedict

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Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?

2001-09-11 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

Ok, because mine stopped by Apple's office (Eire too I guess :)

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Subject: Re: ReiserFS/ext3 for PPC Mandrake?


 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Sylvain OBEGI wrote:

 SO It also seems that before being delivered, they stop by Apple's
office.

 Not according to the person I talked to. If you had add-ons, like
 printers, they stop by Eire (here in Europe) so be repackaged with
 add-ons. but not otherwise.

 --
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 http://www.edlund.org/

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 happens. -- Angelina Jolie