Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-14 Thread Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
When I was about fifteen, I was cooking some french fries one day which 
I had done before on numerous occasions.  I suddenly realized that the 
french fries cooking didn't sound right.  I held my hand over the 
skillet on our gas stove and realized that the heat was coming up much 
higher than it should be.  I realized that the grease was on fire but I 
either didn't know or had forgotten about just sliding a lid over the 
skillet to smother it.  I panicked and picked up the skillet and started 
fast-walking.  I'm not sure exactly where I thought I was going so then 
I set the skillet down in our hall.  I ran into my bedroom and grabbed a 
big, wool army blanket off my bed.  I ran back, folded the blanket 
double and dropped it over the skillet.  That was large overkill but it 
did put the fire out.  Of course, it ruined the blanket and left a large 
skillet-shaped burn scar on our hardwood floor.  I met my mom in the 
driveway when she got home from work and told her what had happened.  I 
don't know what she really thought but all she said was "well, accidents 
happen".



On 7/11/2020 9:17 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Good thing no one was hurt except a lot of pride.  I bet it was a long time 
before your parents let you make stuff.  I did not really get started until I 
was in college and was dating George.
He would come to college to see me a lot and I lived on a floor in the ddorm 
where we had a kitchenette.
We could save money by not being on the food contract. I loved it and at least 
George didn’t have a problem with me making stuff and we did meals together.

  


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From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:07 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I
remember my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and
I was scared. Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not.
And the teacher as I remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


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From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I reme

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-12 Thread Dena Polston via Cookinginthedark
Do you remember who wrote the book "Food at Your Fingertips"or where it was 
published?
Dena

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Of Anna Galassi via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:48 PM
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Hi, I would give anything to have Food At Your Fingertips. I got some good 
recipes out of there.
Anna

-Original Message- 
From: Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:43 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
got that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like 
that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.
She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way 
to at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall 
now, but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
meat loaf or Meatloaf.
Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly

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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on 
that book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and 
nutrition have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good 
recipes and tips and for some of us, memories.



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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as 
in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
> break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant 
> of us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and wh

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Deatherage via Cookinginthedark


Cooking without looking was the first braille cookbook I ever had. I was a 
student at Kentucky school for the Blind so all is I had to do was walk across 
the parking lot to APH to buy it.
Bill Deatherage

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> On Jul 11, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> The braille version of Cooking Without Looking has been around for a long
> time.  However, I do not know if APH still reprints it.  I had a copy until
> it was too worn out to read anymore, but I did type it into the computer a
> long time ago and saved the text file.
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark <
>> cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf
>> Of
>> Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:55 AM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Jeanne Fike 
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>> 
>> Hi,
>> The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
>> ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
>> one's
>> computer or a notetaker.
>>   Jeanne
>> 
>>> On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
>>> There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at
>>> National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date
>>> is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.
>>> There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a
>>> combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking
>>> with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling
>>> Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a
>>> bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread
>>> machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would
>>> take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I
>>> couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
>>> 
>>> There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table /
>>> BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of
>>> Catholic Guild.
>>> 
>>> This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that
>>> these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had
>>> several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread,
>>> which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own
>>> learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.
>>> Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on
>>> bread.
>>> 
>>> So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were
>>> rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly
>>> visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though
>>> recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it
>>> was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the
>>> recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks
>>> around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not
>>> have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the
>>> instructions.
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
>>> cooks.
>>> 
>>>  -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>> 
>>> What a hoot.
>>> Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Go figure.  Sighted people know it all of course, LOL!


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From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:08 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, and just for the record, she was fully sighted.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
> of fun.
> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was 
> a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Linda S.
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>
> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>>
>>
>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>>> them on to a sd card for my stream.
>>> Happy cooking. :)
>>>      Jeanne
>>>
>>> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
>>>> Now, the recipes I copi

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Good thing no one was hurt except a lot of pride.  I bet it was a long time 
before your parents let you make stuff.  I did not really get started until I 
was in college and was dating George.
He would come to college to see me a lot and I lived on a floor in the ddorm 
where we had a kitchenette.
We could save money by not being on the food contract. I loved it and at least 
George didn’t have a problem with me making stuff and we did meals together.

 

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From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:07 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I 
remember my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and 
I was scared. Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. 
And the teacher as I remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
> of fun.
> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was 
> a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Linda S.
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>
> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>>
>>
>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille versi

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread WitKnit via Cookinginthedark
I’ll bet she was.  I know I would have been too.

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> On Jul 11, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I remember 
> my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and I was scared. 
> Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. And the teacher as I 
> remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.
> 
>> On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
>> I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind 
>> of fun.
>> Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it 
>> was a little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S.
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>> 
>> Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
>> remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
>> fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
>> work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
>> came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
>> because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
>> hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
>> have to call the fire dept. (lol)
>> 
>>> On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
>>> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
>>> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
>>> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
>>> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
>>> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
>>> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
>>> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
>>> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
>>> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
>>> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
>>> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
>>> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
>>> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
>>> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
>>> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
>>> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
>>> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
>>> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
>>> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
>>> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
>>> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
>>> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
>>> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
>>> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
>>> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
>>> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
>>> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
>>> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
>>> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
>>> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>>>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>>>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>>>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>>>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Linda S. via Cookinginthedark

Oh, and just for the record, she was fully sighted.

On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
and has pretty much stood the test of time.



On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
     Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on
behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knu

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Ohm, now that I remember it was the grease that caught on fire. I 
remember my dad was pretty shocked and just went in to crisis mode, and 
I was scared. Can't reven remember if we ate those hamburgers or not. 
And the teacher as I remember was pretty embarrassed and left pretty fast.


On 7/11/2020 6:36 PM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously,
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys,
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
and has pretty much stood the test of time.



On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
     Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on
behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More boo

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Oh wow!  Thank God you did not set the house on fire!
I bet that scared your Dad! But now it seems like it started out to be kind of 
fun.
Too bad it didn’t end up that way.  Wonder if the burgers burned or if it was a 
little of the grease that dripped onto the burner.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S.
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on 
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at 
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he 
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house 
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it 
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't 
have to call the fire dept. (lol)

On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
> break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in 
> cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever 
> taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls 
> in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, 
> so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed 
> a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was 
> very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each 
> class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  
> When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she 
> looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and 
> milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought 
> everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody 
> came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
> was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three 
> unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  
> I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next 
> class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, 
> you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
>> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
>> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
>> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
>> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
>> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
>> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
>> them on to a sd card for my stream.
>> Happy cooking. :)
>>     Jeanne
>>
>> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>>  wrote:
>>> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
>>> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
>>> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
>>>
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Cookinginthedark 
>>> [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>> Cc: Rebecca Manners
>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>>
>>> I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
>>> availabl

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Oh, going way back in to the sixties, there was a braille recipe book 
called everyday foods? I remember reading it in high school; omy I 
feeling old now!Have to stop remembering!


On 7/11/2020 7:33 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
  A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions.

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Oh, this is such a fun story. Isn't fun to relive those cool memories? I 
remember one of my resource teachers came and almost set our house on 
fire when I was a senior. My mom was in the hospital, and my dad was at 
work, so she asked me if I'd like to surprise my dad with dinner when he 
came home. He got home just in time to see smoke coming out of the house 
because we had made hamburgers, and the broiler was on and I think it 
hadn't been cleaned or something, and ... well, thankfully we didn't 
have to call the fire dept. (lol)


On 7/10/2020 3:39 PM, Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
break.  We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in 
cooking class.  It was interesting because I don't think she had ever 
taught any males much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls 
in class.  It was hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, 
so we probably took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed 
a lot and worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was 
very tolerant of us.  For the culmination of the cooking class, each 
class got to decide what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  
When she asked us what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she 
looked and what she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and 
milk shakes.  The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought 
everything we'd need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody 
came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us 
was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So I remember three 
unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  
I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember the next 
class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, 
you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
and has pretty much stood the test of time.




On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
    Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On

Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on 
behalf of

Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One rec

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Ihave the New King James in 20 volumes on my living room shelves.
It was donated to my regional library so I put in for it.  Someone was ahead of 
me, and they said they couldn’t take it, so they loaded it onto my bus home 
from a meeting.
I don’t think my driver was too thrilled, but it was kind of cool coming home 
with the Word!
 

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From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:50 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Awww, I don't even know what condition those poor 
books are in anymore. Makes me so sad, because my 
Bibles are out there, too. *sigh*

Karen



At 10:26 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight 
>fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound can into 
>the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of 
>those bread ties really tight on the sugar bag 
>just until it goes down enough for the rest to 
>fit. I’d never want the possibility of a 
>roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a bug 
>when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky! 
>Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the 
>shed, let me know, I could probably do it all 
>within a week or so, unless I get really busy 
>fast. I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 
>years and they are still on one of the shelves 
>in my basement. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 
>From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark Sent: 
>Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Karen Delzer 
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
>blind there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
>cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
>Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
>live in a home that is too small for a 
>bookshelf. Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! 
>Anyway, some of the recipes are good. But there 
>is a tip in there I think is just nuts! Well, 
>many may be, but this one, if you have ants, put 
>your sugar bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle 
>ant powder onto the plate so the ants won't get 
>into the sugar. Well, ants literally send me 
>screaming, so I can't deal. But, really??? Put 
>ant poison onto a paper plate that you will 
>touch as you get into the sugar bowl? Um, I 
>don't think so! Karen At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you 
>wrote: >I’ll tell you about one I would 
>like to find. >Some time around the early 
>1990’s I think it >was, a gentleman came to 
>my house and said he >was a retired water man 
>and that he remembered >seeing me when he came 
>to read the water >meter.  He said he and his 
>wife were moving and >that his sister had passed 
>away and he had some >braille cookbooks. Well, I 
>got pretty excited of >course.  One of them was 
>the 1948 book called >The Braille 
>Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but >I like 
>it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 >volumes 
>of a book called the New Evelyn 
>Lee’s >Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes 
>because the >contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in 
>Volume 1. But >there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came >out in 1963.  If anyone would 
>happen to have it, >I would love to get a copy 
>so I could copy it. >I’d just transcribe it 
>into my computer and >just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere >has it.  I asked about 
>it through my library and >no one knows anything 
>about it. I was going >through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of >from a shared folder a 
>few years ago, and I got >Evelyn Lee’s 
>Fried Chicken. It does sound >good, but wherever 
>they got that recipe, there >must be her braille 
>book.  I would appreciate >any help in at least 
>borrowing a copy of that >Volume 3. Lora and 
>Leader Dog Firefly Sent from >Mail for Windows 
>10 From: meward1954--- via >Cookinginthedark 
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 >10:21 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
>Cc: >meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] 
>More >books written for the blind There was 
>also >Cooking with Feeling by Deborah 
>DeBord.  This is >at National Braille Press, if 
>they still have >it.  The publication date is 
>1997, so it is a >bit more up to date, though 
>far from >recent.  There are five soft-cover 
>Braille >volumes.  The book is actually a 
>combination of >two different books, a 
>three-part series called >Cooking with Feeling 
>Recipes and a two-part one >called Cooking with 
>Feeling >Techniques.  Techniques are 
>well-described.  I >believe she also had a bread 
>machine book.  I >don't know if there are 
>accessible bread >machines now.  I don't have 
>one because I think >that a machine wo

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Awww, I don't even know what condition those poor 
books are in anymore. Makes me so sad, because my 
Bibles are out there, too. *sigh*


Karen



At 10:26 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight 
fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound can into 
the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of 
those bread ties really tight on the sugar bag 
just until it goes down enough for the rest to 
fit. I’d never want the possibility of a 
roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a bug 
when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky! 
Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the 
shed, let me know, I could probably do it all 
within a week or so, unless I get really busy 
fast. I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 
years and they are still on one of the shelves 
in my basement. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 
From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark Sent: 
Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Karen Delzer 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
blind there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a 
bookshelf. Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! 
Anyway, some of the recipes are good. But there 
is a tip in there I think is just nuts! Well, 
many may be, but this one, if you have ants, put 
your sugar bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle 
ant powder onto the plate so the ants won't get 
into the sugar. Well, ants literally send me 
screaming, so I can't deal. But, really??? Put 
ant poison onto a paper plate that you will 
touch as you get into the sugar bowl? Um, I 
don't think so! Karen At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you 
wrote: >I’ll tell you about one I would 
like to find. >Some time around the early 
1990’s I think it >was, a gentleman came to 
my house and said he >was a retired water man 
and that he remembered >seeing me when he came 
to read the water >meter.  He said he and his 
wife were moving and >that his sister had passed 
away and he had some >braille cookbooks. Well, I 
got pretty excited of >course.  One of them was 
the 1948 book called >The Braille 
Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but >I like 
it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 >volumes 
of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s >Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes 
because the >contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in 
Volume 1. But >there was no Volume 3.  I think 
the book came >out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, >I would love to get a copy 
so I could copy it. >I’d just transcribe it 
into my computer and >just give it back. Maybe 
some library somewhere >has it.  I asked about 
it through my library and >no one knows anything 
about it. I was going >through a collection of 
recipes I got ahold of >from a shared folder a 
few years ago, and I got >Evelyn Lee’s 
Fried Chicken. It does sound >good, but wherever 
they got that recipe, there >must be her braille 
book.  I would appreciate >any help in at least 
borrowing a copy of that >Volume 3. Lora and 
Leader Dog Firefly Sent from >Mail for Windows 
10 From: meward1954--- via >Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 >10:21 AM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: >meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] 
More >books written for the blind There was 
also >Cooking with Feeling by Deborah 
DeBord.  This is >at National Braille Press, if 
they still have >it.  The publication date is 
1997, so it is a >bit more up to date, though 
far from >recent.  There are five soft-cover 
Braille >volumes.  The book is actually a 
combination of >two different books, a 
three-part series called >Cooking with Feeling 
Recipes and a two-part one >called Cooking with 
Feeling >Techniques.  Techniques are 
well-described.  I >believe she also had a bread 
machine book.  I >don't know if there are 
accessible bread >machines now.  I don't have 
one because I think >that a machine would take 
all the fun out of >making bread.  What would be 
the point, if I >couldn't knead out all my 
frustrations?  There >is another Braille Book on 
BARD, A leaf from our >table / BRA10152 Porter, 
Marie; Catholic Guild. >2 volumes. A production 
of Catholic Guild. This >book was put together 
by a group of blind >women.  I believe that 
these women all cooked >and shared these recipes 
at meetings.  They had >several other books back 
in the 1970s.  The book >on making Bread, which 
was just called, Bread, >is the one I used as a 
primer for my own >learning how to make 
bread.  They also had a >salad and dessert 
book.  Maybe there were others >as well, but the 
only one I had was the one on >bread.  So many 
of the cookbooks I have seen by >blind people's 
groups were rather obviously >copied from 
somewhere els

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Anna Galassi via Cookinginthedark
Hi, I would give anything to have Food At Your Fingertips. I got some good 
recipes out of there.

Anna

-Original Message- 
From: Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:43 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
got that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like 
that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.

She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way 
to at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall 
now, but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
meat loaf or Meatloaf.

Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on 
that book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and 
nutrition have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good 
recipes and tips and for some of us, memories.




-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as 
in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.


Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:



I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
when I had to throw it out.
But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
visually handicapped instead of blind.
But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
Lora and Firefly


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lee Mounger
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
break.

We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
class.

It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant 
of us.

For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.
The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd
need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us
that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and
prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys
prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have
laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came
back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't
have to use all the ice cream for your milk sh

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Anna Galassi via Cookinginthedark

The copy I saw was hard covered and in 1 volume.
Anna

-Original Message- 
From: Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:07 AM
To: Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Cc: Carol Ashland
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I used to own "Food At Your Fingertips." It came in a three-ring notebook, 
assuming that one would add recipes to it. I loaned it to a friend, whose 
father sent it to the library, but didn't tell me until way later. I was not 
pleased!


Carol Ashland
carol97...@gmail.com
Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 7:43 AM, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark  wrote:


I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
got that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something 
like that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or 
somewhere.

She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way 
to at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called 
A Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice 
Megamall now, but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been 
either meat loaf or Meatloaf.

Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on 
that book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and 
nutrition have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good 
recipes and tips and for some of us, memories.


-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf 
Of Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking 
as in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.


Marie

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:


> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas 
> break.

> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> class.

> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very 
> tolerant of us.

> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
> she thought when we told her 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
No, I have never noticed this one, will check it out.


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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:28 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I hated onions as a child.  But when I moved out on my own, finally, and had to 
cook, I became the biggest onion fan on the planet.

Anybody ever tried roasting onions?  I have ben enjoying the Roasted Vegetable 
Cookbook, though it's not necessarily a book for us blind people.  The roasted 
vegetable / BR17845
 Chesman, Andrea. 2 volumes. A production of the National Library Service for 
the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of Congress. 
  

-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:05 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used to have our campers bring the 
ingredients for that big boy thing, though we called it something else, and we 
helped them get the food all packed up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. 
It was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at 
>the Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so 
>that others in the house would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their homes, I think they may 
>have even stayed there back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But if you can't manage your 
>diabetes without being able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, smirk.  I copied 
>things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  
>You got out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  
>You made a packet out of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how long.  I made it and it was 
>good, though a bit greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was over 
>50 years ago.  And there were different nutritional standards and they 
>didn't have all these small electrical devices then that we have now.  
>I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested 
>in dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if 
>there was enough demand.  It's really our history.  -Original 
>Message-
>From: Cookinginthedark
> On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via 
>Cookinginthedark
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett  
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around the early 1990’s I 
>think it was, a gentleman came to my house and said he was a retired 
>water man and that he remembered seeing me when he came to read the 
>water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his sister 
>had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book 
>called The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New 
>Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents 
>of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I would 
>love to get a copy so I could copy it.
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound good, but wherever they got 
>that recipe, there must be her braille book.  I would appreciate any 
>help in at least borrowing a copy of that Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog 
>Firefly Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookingintheda

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
I hated onions as a child.  But when I moved out on my own, finally, and had to 
cook, I became the biggest onion fan on the planet.

Anybody ever tried roasting onions?  I have ben enjoying the Roasted Vegetable 
Cookbook, though it's not necessarily a book for us blind people.  The roasted 
vegetable / BR17845
 Chesman, Andrea. 2 volumes. A production of the National Library Service for 
the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of Congress. 
  

-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:05 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used to have our campers bring the 
ingredients for that big boy thing, though we called it something else, and we 
helped them get the food all packed up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. 
It was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at 
>the Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so 
>that others in the house would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their homes, I think they may 
>have even stayed there back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But if you can't manage your 
>diabetes without being able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, smirk.  I copied 
>things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  
>You got out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  
>You made a packet out of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how long.  I made it and it was 
>good, though a bit greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was over 
>50 years ago.  And there were different nutritional standards and they 
>didn't have all these small electrical devices then that we have now.  
>I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested 
>in dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if 
>there was enough demand.  It's really our history.  -Original 
>Message-
>From: Cookinginthedark
> On Behalf Of Lora Leggett via 
>Cookinginthedark
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett  
>Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around the early 1990’s I 
>think it was, a gentleman came to my house and said he was a retired 
>water man and that he remembered seeing me when he came to read the 
>water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his sister 
>had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book 
>called The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New 
>Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents 
>of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was no Volume 3.  I think 
>the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I would 
>love to get a copy so I could copy it.
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back. Maybe 
>some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going through a collection of 
>recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound good, but wherever they got 
>that recipe, there must be her braille book.  I would appreciate any 
>help in at least borrowing a copy of that Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog 
>Firefly Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the 
>blind There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have it.  Th

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Oh, wow, I have a coffee can with a tight fitting lid.  I pour the 4 or 5 pound 
can into the can.  If it doesn’t run out, I put one of those bread ties really 
tight on the sugar bag just until it goes down enough for the rest to fit.
I’d never want the possibility of a roach, an ant, a fly or any other kind of a 
bug when I can’t see or hear them there.  Yucky!
Well, if that volume 3 ever crawls out of the shed, let me know, I could 
probably do it all within a week or so, unless I get really busy fast.
I must have had Volumes 1 and 2 about 20 years and they are still on one of the 
shelves in my basement.


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From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:49 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a bookshelf. 
Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! Anyway, some 
of the recipes are good. But there is a tip in 
there I think is just nuts! Well, many may be, 
but this one, if you have ants, put your sugar 
bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle ant powder 
onto the plate so the ants won't get into the 
sugar. Well, ants literally send me screaming, so 
I can't deal. But, really??? Put ant poison onto 
a paper plate that you will touch as you get into 
the sugar bowl? Um, I don't think so!

Karen




At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I’ll tell you about one I would like to find. 
>Some time around the early 1990’s I think it 
>was, a gentleman came to my house and said he 
>was a retired water man and that he remembered 
>seeing me when he came to read the water 
>meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and 
>that his sister had passed away and he had some 
>braille cookbooks. Well, I got pretty excited of 
>course.  One of them was the 1948 book called 
>The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but 
>I like it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 
>volumes of a book called the New Evelyn Lee’s 
>Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the 
>contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But 
>there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came 
>out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, 
>I would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
>just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
>has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going 
>through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
>from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
>good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
>must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
>any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
>Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
>Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind There was also 
>Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have 
>it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
>bit more up to date, though far from 
>recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
>volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
>two different books, a three-part series called 
>Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
>called Cooking with Feeling 
>Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
>believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
>don't know if there are accessible bread 
>machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
>that a machine would take all the fun out of 
>making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
>couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
>is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
>table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
>2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
>book was put together by a group of blind 
>women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
>and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
>several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
>on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
>is the one I used as a primer for my own 
>learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
>salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
>as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
>bread.  So many of the cookbooks I have seen by 
>blind people's groups were rather obviously 
>copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some 
>highly visual descriptions even in Cooking in 
>the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
>Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because 
>it was put out by an ACB or 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark
I used to own "Food At Your Fingertips." It came in a three-ring notebook, 
assuming that one would add recipes to it. I loaned it to a friend, whose 
father sent it to the library, but didn't tell me until way later. I was not 
pleased! 

Carol Ashland
carol97...@gmail.com
Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 7:43 AM, Lora Leggett via 
Cookinginthedark  wrote:
>
> I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never 
> got that one
> I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan 
> School For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like 
> that.  She came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.
> She was older, but very kind and likeable.
> I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way to 
> at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
> I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
> Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall 
> now, but they are not the one that was.
> There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
> meat loaf or Meatloaf.
> Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
> Lora and Firefly
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:49 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
> book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
> have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and 
> tips and for some of us, memories.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Marie Rudys 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as 
> in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was 
> actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time 
> ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.
>
> Marie
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
> cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>
> > I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> > it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> > when I had to throw it out.
> > But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> > The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> > about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> > visually handicapped instead of blind.
> > But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> > Lora and Firefly
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> > Cc: Lee Mounger
> > Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> >
> > While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> > post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> > at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> > other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> > our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> > shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> > We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> > together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> > Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> > written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> > was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> > have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> > class.
> > It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> > much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> > hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> > took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> > worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant 
> > of us.
> > For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> > w

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Oh, I love onions, woo hoo!  That must have been fun, and of course, if you are 
making it at home, you could cut down or leave them out.


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From: Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Karen Delzer
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used 
to have our campers bring the ingredients for 
that big boy thing, though we called it something 
else, and we helped them get the food all packed 
up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. It 
was great, though too much onion for me. :)

Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
>I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used 
>to have a copy of it at the Texas School for the 
>Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
>goal of the agency was to help the blind person 
>become a homemaker so that others in the house 
>would not have to stay home and take care of 
>them.  Teachers would spend long times in their 
>homes, I think they may have even stayed there 
>back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
>feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But 
>if you can't manage your diabetes without being 
>able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
>because I was a teacher, and that's not how I 
>taught, smirk.  I copied things out of that book 
>myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
>don't know where the files went.  I remember a 
>recipe called Big Boy.  You got out some foil, 
>made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
>and whatever vegetables, and put them around the 
>burger on the foil.  You made a packet out of 
>the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
>out, and baked it for I don't remember how 
>long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit 
>greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was 
>over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
>nutritional standards and they didn't have all 
>these small electrical devices then that we have 
>now.  I don't know where to get a copy.  I 
>wonder if NLS would be interested in dredging up 
>and reissuing some of these old Braille 
>cookbooks if there was enough demand.  It's 
>really our history.  -Original Message- 
>From: Cookinginthedark 
> On 
>Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
>cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
>about one I would like to find. Some time around 
>the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman 
>came to my house and said he was a retired water 
>man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
>came to read the water meter.  He said he and 
>his wife were moving and that his sister had 
>passed away and he had some braille cookbooks. 
>Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of 
>them was the 1948 book called The Braille 
>Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it. 
>The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a 
>book called the New Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It 
>really has 3 volumes because the contents of 
>Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was 
>no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 
>1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I 
>would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
>I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
>just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
>has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
>no one knows anything about it. I was going 
>through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
>from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
>Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
>good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
>must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
>any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
>Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
>Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
>Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
>10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
>meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
>books written for the blind There was also 
>Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
>at National Braille Press, if they still have 
>it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
>bit more up to date, though far from 
>recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
>volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
>two different books, a three-part series called 
>Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
>called Cooking with Feeling 
>Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
>believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
>don't know if there are accessible bread 
>machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
>that a machine would take all the fun out of 
&

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
I remember that, as a day camp counselor, we used 
to have our campers bring the ingredients for 
that big boy thing, though we called it something 
else, and we helped them get the food all packed 
up and we put it onto the campfire to cook. It 
was great, though too much onion for me. :)


Karen

At 08:51 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used 
to have a copy of it at the Texas School for the 
Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the 
goal of the agency was to help the blind person 
become a homemaker so that others in the house 
would not have to stay home and take care of 
them.  Teachers would spend long times in their 
homes, I think they may have even stayed there 
back then.  These days, it's pretty much "stop 
feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  But 
if you can't manage your diabetes without being 
able to cook it's your fault."  I know this 
because I was a teacher, and that's not how I 
taught, smirk.  I copied things out of that book 
myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a 
recipe called Big Boy.  You got out some foil, 
made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, 
and whatever vegetables, and put them around the 
burger on the foil.  You made a packet out of 
the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak 
out, and baked it for I don't remember how 
long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit 
greasy.  Not exactly foodie fare, but that was 
over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all 
these small electrical devices then that we have 
now.  I don't know where to get a copy.  I 
wonder if NLS would be interested in dredging up 
and reissuing some of these old Braille 
cookbooks if there was enough demand.  It's 
really our history.  -Original Message- 
From: Cookinginthedark 
 On 
Behalf Of Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM To: 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Lora Leggett 
 Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind I’ll tell you 
about one I would like to find. Some time around 
the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman 
came to my house and said he was a retired water 
man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and 
his wife were moving and that his sister had 
passed away and he had some braille cookbooks. 
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of 
them was the 1948 book called The Braille 
Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it. 
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a 
book called the New Evelyn Lee’s Cookbook.  It 
really has 3 volumes because the contents of 
Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But there was 
no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 
1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, I 
would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it. I was going 
through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind There was also 
Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
at National Braille Press, if they still have 
it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from 
recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
two different books, a three-part series called 
Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
called Cooking with Feeling 
Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
that a machine would take all the fun out of 
making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
book was put together by a group of blind 
women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
is the one I used as a primer for my own 
learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
bread.  So many of the cookbooks I

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Good going, Marie.  I have both versions from BARD but have never actually sat 
down and copied it.  Maybe I should before I get too old and decrepit, haha.  
I’m hitting 68 on August 24 so I think I better get cracking, haha.
Lora and Firefly
 

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From: Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:23 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The braille version of Cooking Without Looking has been around for a long
time.  However, I do not know if APH still reprints it.  I had a copy until
it was too worn out to read anymore, but I did type it into the computer a
long time ago and saved the text file.

Marie



On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf
> Of
> Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:55 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Jeanne Fike 
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Hi,
> The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
> ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
> one's
> computer or a notetaker.
>Jeanne
>
> On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> > There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at
> > National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date
> > is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.
> > There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a
> > combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking
> > with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling
> > Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a
> > bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread
> > machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would
> > take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I
> > couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
> >
> > There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table /
> > BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of
> > Catholic Guild.
> >
> > This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that
> > these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had
> > several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread,
> > which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own
> > learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.
> > Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on
> > bread.
> >
> > So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were
> > rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly
> > visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though
> > recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it
> > was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the
> > recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks
> > around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not
> > have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the
> > instructions.
> >
> > I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> > cooks.
> >
> >   -Original Message-
> > From: Cookinginthedark  On
> > Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 7:35 PM
> > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> > Cc: gail johnson 
> > Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >
> > What a hoot.
> > Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
there certainly was an Evelyn Lee braille 
cookbook, and it had three volumes. 
Unfortunately, it is out in our shed, as we now 
live in a home that is too small for a bookshelf. 
Can you imagine? Sooo frustrating! Anyway, some 
of the recipes are good. But there is a tip in 
there I think is just nuts! Well, many may be, 
but this one, if you have ants, put your sugar 
bowl on a paper plate and sprinkle ant powder 
onto the plate so the ants won't get into the 
sugar. Well, ants literally send me screaming, so 
I can't deal. But, really??? Put ant poison onto 
a paper plate that you will touch as you get into 
the sugar bowl? Um, I don't think so!


Karen




At 07:36 AM 7/11/2020, you wrote:
I’ll tell you about one I would like to find. 
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it 
was, a gentleman came to my house and said he 
was a retired water man and that he remembered 
seeing me when he came to read the water 
meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and 
that his sister had passed away and he had some 
braille cookbooks. Well, I got pretty excited of 
course.  One of them was the 1948 book called 
The Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but 
I like it. The other 2 volumes are the first 2 
volumes of a book called the New Evelyn Lee’s 
Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the 
contents of Volumes 2 and 3 are in Volume 1. But 
there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came 
out in 1963.  If anyone would happen to have it, 
I would love to get a copy so I could copy it. 
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and 
just give it back. Maybe some library somewhere 
has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it. I was going 
through a collection of recipes I got ahold of 
from a shared folder a few years ago, and I got 
Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken. It does sound 
good, but wherever they got that recipe, there 
must be her braille book.  I would appreciate 
any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3. Lora and Leader Dog Firefly Sent from 
Mail for Windows 10 From: meward1954--- via 
Cookinginthedark Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 
10:21 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: 
meward1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CnD] More 
books written for the blind There was also 
Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is 
at National Braille Press, if they still have 
it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from 
recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of 
two different books, a three-part series called 
Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one 
called Cooking with Feeling 
Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I 
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I 
don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think 
that a machine would take all the fun out of 
making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  There 
is another Braille Book on BARD, A leaf from our 
table / BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 
2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild. This 
book was put together by a group of blind 
women.  I believe that these women all cooked 
and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
several other books back in the 1970s.  The book 
on making Bread, which was just called, Bread, 
is the one I used as a primer for my own 
learning how to make bread.  They also had a 
salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others 
as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
bread.  So many of the cookbooks I have seen by 
blind people's groups were rather obviously 
copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some 
highly visual descriptions even in Cooking in 
the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because 
it was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate 
doesn't mean that all the recipes have been 
test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody 
asks around for recipes and people just copy 
them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, 
but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
instructions. I haven't seen any audio books on 
BARD written specifically for blind 
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
The braille version of Cooking Without Looking has been around for a long
time.  However, I do not know if APH still reprints it.  I had a copy until
it was too worn out to read anymore, but I did type it into the computer a
long time ago and saved the text file.

Marie



On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf
> Of
> Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
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>
> Hi,
> The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
> ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
> one's
> computer or a notetaker.
>Jeanne
>
> On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
> > There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at
> > National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date
> > is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.
> > There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a
> > combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking
> > with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling
> > Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a
> > bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread
> > machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would
> > take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I
> > couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
> >
> > There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table /
> > BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of
> > Catholic Guild.
> >
> > This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that
> > these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had
> > several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread,
> > which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own
> > learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.
> > Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on
> > bread.
> >
> > So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were
> > rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly
> > visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though
> > recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it
> > was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the
> > recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks
> > around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not
> > have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the
> > instructions.
> >
> > I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> > cooks.
> >
> >   -Original Message-
> > From: Cookinginthedark  On
> > Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
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> > What a hoot.
> > Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lois Swartz via Cookinginthedark
I learned to cook with this book and Mrs Tipps as well! I sure liked that 
lady.

Lois

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I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and 
tips and for some of us, memories.



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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately,
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It's about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs.
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking 
> class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she
> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
> test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking
> > without Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other
> > with the db starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just
> > looked.) When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read
> > for a Talking Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded
> > a copy of the Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it
> > to me at Christmas that year. I still have the c

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
I tried to look on that link, but couldn’t navigate it much.
The one I had was called Evelyn Lee’s New Cookbook, so she must have had a 
couple.  The introduction was written by I think a gentleman who was so totally 
amazed that she was blind, he could not get over himself, haha.
I think it’s like people who ask you who dresses you or where your care giver 
is.
If it is the same book, I have Volume 1, and if it is a different one, it must 
be incomplete if it is only Volume 1.
But thanks.  Somewhere in my house, I have the Braille Cookbook of 1948.
Of course there were no more can labels in the back, just a spot where they 
used to be.
That Big Boy sounds good.  Yes, I have diabetes, but once in a while, you just 
want something that tastes good.






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From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at the 
Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the goal of the 
agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so that others in the 
house would not have to stay home and take care of them.  Teachers would spend 
long times in their homes, I think they may have even stayed there back then.  
These days, it's pretty much "stop feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  
But if you can't manage your diabetes without being able to cook it's your 
fault."  I know this because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, 
smirk.  

I copied things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  You got 
out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, and whatever 
vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  You made a packet out 
of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak out, and baked it for I don't 
remember how long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit greasy.  Not 
exactly foodie fare, but that was over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all these small electrical devices 
then that we have now.  

I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested in 
dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if there was 
enough demand.  It's really our history.  

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Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There 

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
It was always only Braille.  Thanks for looking that up.



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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hi,
The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to one's
computer or a notetaker.
   Jeanne

On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at 
> National Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date 
> is 1997, so it is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  
> There are five soft-cover Braille volumes.  The book is actually a 
> combination of two different books, a three-part series called Cooking 
> with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called Cooking with Feeling 
> Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she also had a 
> bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
> machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would 
> take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I 
> couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
>
> There is another Braille Book on BARD,  A leaf from our table / 
> BRA10152 Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of 
> Catholic Guild.
>
> This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that 
> these women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had 
> several other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, 
> which was just called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own 
> learning how to make bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  
> Maybe there were others as well, but the only one I had was the one on 
> bread.
>
> So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were 
> rather obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly 
> visual descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though 
> recipes I know are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it 
> was put out by an ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the 
> recipes have been test-driven by a real blind person.  Somebody asks 
> around for recipes and people just copy them out.  They may or may not 
> have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
> instructions.
>
> I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind 
> cooks.
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On 
> Behalf Of gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
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> What a hoot.
> Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
Hi,
The Cooking with Feeling book is still abailable from NBP but only as
ebraille. If one purchases it, one is downloading 5 braille volumes to
one's computer or a notetaker.
   Jeanne

On 7/11/20, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
> Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
> is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five
> soft-cover
> Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different
> books,
> a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
> called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
> believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
> accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
> machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
> point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?
>
> There is another Braille Book on BARD,
>  A leaf from our table / BRA10152
> Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.
>
> This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
> women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
> other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
> called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to
> make
> bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
> well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.
>
> So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
> obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
> descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
> are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
> ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been
> test-driven
> by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
> copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
> necessarily adapted the instructions.
>
> I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind
> cooks.
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of
> gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
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> Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
I forgot about the Braille Cookbook.  They used to have a copy of it at the 
Texas School for the Blind.  It was made back in the 40s when the goal of the 
agency was to help the blind person become a homemaker so that others in the 
house would not have to stay home and take care of them.  Teachers would spend 
long times in their homes, I think they may have even stayed there back then.  
These days, it's pretty much "stop feeling sorry for yourself and get a job.  
But if you can't manage your diabetes without being able to cook it's your 
fault."  I know this because I was a teacher, and that's not how I taught, 
smirk.  

I copied things out of that book myself but I used an old Braille 'n Speak and 
don't know where the files went.  I remember a recipe called Big Boy.  You got 
out some foil, made a patty, cut up some onion, potato, carrot, and whatever 
vegetables, and put them around the burger on the foil.  You made a packet out 
of the foil, being careful that it couldn't leak out, and baked it for I don't 
remember how long.  I made it and it was good, though a bit greasy.  Not 
exactly foodie fare, but that was over 50 years ago.  And there were different 
nutritional standards and they didn't have all these small electrical devices 
then that we have now.  

I don't know where to get a copy.  I wonder if NLS would be interested in 
dredging up and reissuing some of these old Braille cookbooks if there was 
enough demand.  It's really our history.  

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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:34 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lora Leggett 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these 
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several other 
books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just called, 
Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make bread.  
They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as well, but 
the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather 
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual 
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an ACB or 
NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven by a real 
blind person.  Somebody a

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Tiffany H. Jessen via Cookinginthedark
Googling, this page is closed, but it seems to imply your book really is only 
one volume. Maybe the recipe you found outside of the book was from a different 
source altogether?
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/71247568


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I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National 
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it is a 
bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover Braille 
volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books, a 
three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one called 
Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I believe she 
also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are accessible bread 
machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a machine would take all 
the fun out of making bread.  What would be the point, if I couldn't knead out 
all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these 
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several other 
books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just called, 
Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make bread.  
They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as well, but 
the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather 
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual 
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know are 
Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an ACB or 
NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven by a real 
blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just copy them out.  
They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't necessarily adapted the 
instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
I remember there was another book called Food At Your Fingertips.  I never got 
that one
I think one summer when I went to this 5-week program up at the Michigan School 
For The Blind, there was a lady named Mrs. Schultz or something like that.  She 
came from somewheredown South like maybe Arkansas or somewhere.
She was older, but very kind and likeable.
I think it was a 3-volume or so soft covered book.  I wish there was a way to 
at least find copies of this stuff to borrow.
I also had and it could be around here but I can’t find it.  It was called A 
Campbell Cookbook.  I have the 3 book collection from Blind Mice Megamall now, 
but they are not the one that was.
There was a recipe in it called Souper Meat Loaf.  It could have been either 
meat loaf or Meatloaf.
Those books were so cool, and so rare back then.
Lora and Firefly
 
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I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and tips 
and for some of us, memories.



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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us 
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what 
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd 
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us 
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and 
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have 
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came 
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't 
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she 
> wa

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
I’ll tell you about one I would like to find.
Some time around the early 1990’s I think it was, a gentleman came to my house 
and said he was a retired water man and that he remembered seeing me when he 
came to read the water meter.  He said he and his wife were moving and that his 
sister had passed away and he had some braille cookbooks.
Well, I got pretty excited of course.  One of them was the 1948 book called The 
Braille Cookbook.  It’s old of course, but I like it.
The other 2 volumes are the first 2 volumes of a book called the New Evelyn 
Lee’s Cookbook.  It really has 3 volumes because the contents of Volumes 2 and 
3 are in Volume 1.
But there was no Volume 3.  I think the book came out in 1963.  If anyone would 
happen to have it, I would love to get a copy so I could copy it.
I’d just transcribe it into my computer and just give it back.
Maybe some library somewhere has it.  I asked about it through my library and 
no one knows anything about it.
I was going through a collection of recipes I got ahold of from a shared folder 
a few years ago, and I got Evelyn Lee’s Fried Chicken.
It does sound good, but wherever they got that recipe, there must be her 
braille book.  I would appreciate any help in at least borrowing a copy of that 
Volume 3.
Lora and Leader Dog Firefly


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To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
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Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
There was also Cooking with Feeling by Deborah DeBord.  This is at National
Braille Press, if they still have it.  The publication date is 1997, so it
is a bit more up to date, though far from recent.  There are five soft-cover
Braille volumes.  The book is actually a combination of two different books,
a three-part series called Cooking with Feeling Recipes and a two-part one
called Cooking with Feeling Techniques.  Techniques are well-described.  I
believe she also had a bread machine book.  I don't know if there are
accessible bread machines now.  I don't have one because I think that a
machine would take all the fun out of making bread.  What would be the
point, if I couldn't knead out all my frustrations?  

There is another Braille Book on BARD,
 A leaf from our table / BRA10152
Porter, Marie; Catholic Guild. 2 volumes. A production of Catholic Guild.

This book was put together by a group of blind women.  I believe that these
women all cooked and shared these recipes at meetings.  They had several
other books back in the 1970s.  The book on making Bread, which was just
called, Bread, is the one I used as a primer for my own learning how to make
bread.  They also had a salad and dessert book.  Maybe there were others as
well, but the only one I had was the one on bread.  

So many of the cookbooks I have seen by blind people's groups were rather
obviously copied from somewhere else.  I've seen some highly visual
descriptions even in Cooking in the Dark cookbooks, though recipes I know
are Dale's are very blind-friendly.  So just because it was put out by an
ACB or NFB affiliate doesn't mean that all the recipes have been test-driven
by a real blind person.  Somebody asks around for recipes and people just
copy them out.  They may or may not have cooked them, but they haven't
necessarily adapted the instructions. 

I haven't seen any audio books on BARD written specifically for blind cooks.

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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
I was at the Texas School for the Blind when Esther Tipps was working on that 
book.  I look at it every once in a  while.  Ideas about food and nutrition 
have changed quite a bit since then.  But there are still good recipes and tips 
and for some of us, memories.



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From: Cookinginthedark  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 8:38 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as in 
the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was actually 
read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time ago, don't 
know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark < 
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, 
> it was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried 
> when I had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from 
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says 
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior 
> at Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two 
> other senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill 
> our graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take 
> shop or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided 
> together that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. 
> Tipps had been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had 
> written Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who 
> was totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would 
> have it, it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably 
> took it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and 
> worked in some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of 
> us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide 
> what they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us 
> what we wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what 
> she thought when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  
> The day before our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd 
> need.  The next day when we came to class, somebody came and told us 
> that Mrs. Tipps was out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and 
> prepare our meal.  So I remember three unsupervised senior guys 
> prepared and ate our chili and milk shakes.  I think we may have 
> laughed the whole period. I remember the next class when she came 
> back, the only thing she said was, "You know guys, you really didn't 
> have to use all the ice cream for your milk shakes".  All in all, she 
> was a nice lady and her book is still useful and has pretty much stood the 
> test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking 
> > without Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other 
> > with the db starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just 
> > looked.) When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read 
> > for a Talking Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded 
> > a copy of the Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it 
> > to me at Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would 
> > like to get them on to a sd card for my stream.
> > Happy cooking. :)
> > Jeanne
> >
> > On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
> >  wrote:
> >> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> >> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-11 Thread Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
The recipes ARE the same in the audio version of Cooking Without Looking as
in the braille one.  In fact, the original narration of this book was
actually read by a blind man for NLS.  I found out about that a long time
ago, don't know where I heard it but it is true.  I kid you not.

Marie


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark <
cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

> I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, it
> was on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried when I
> had to throw it out.
> But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
> The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from
> about 1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says
> visually handicapped instead of blind.
> But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
> Lora and Firefly
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Lee Mounger
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
> While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this
> post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at
> Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other
> senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our
> graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop
> or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.
> We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided together
> that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had
> been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had written
> Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was
> totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it,
> it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.
> It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males
> much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was
> hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably took
> it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in
> some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.
> For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide what
> they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us what we
> wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what she thought
> when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before
> our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next
> day when we came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was
> out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So
> I remember three unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and
> milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember
> the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You
> know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk
> shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful
> and has pretty much stood the test of time.
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
> > Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
> > starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
> > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
> > Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
> > Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
> > Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
> > them on to a sd card for my stream.
> > Happy cooking. :)
> > Jeanne
> >
> > On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
> >  wrote:
> >> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> >> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
> >> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
> >>
> >> Marie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
> >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> >> Cc: Rebecca Manners
> >> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
> >>
> >> I don't know about the

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-10 Thread Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark
I had the old braille book of Cooking Without Looking.  Unfortunately, it was 
on my shelf in the basement and it got water damaged.  I cried when I had to 
throw it out.
But I downloaded both copies from BARD.
The original version is read byh a gentleman, and the newer copy from about 
1980 is read by a female.  It’s about the same except it says visually 
handicapped instead of blind.
But I think the recipes are the same in both versions.
Lora and Firefly


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From: Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 6:39 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Lee Mounger
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at 
Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other 
senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our 
graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop 
or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  
We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided together 
that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had 
been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had written 
Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was 
totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it, 
it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.  
It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably took 
it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in 
some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.  
For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide what 
they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us what we 
wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what she thought 
when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before 
our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next 
day when we came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was 
out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So 
I remember three unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and 
milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember 
the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You 
know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
and has pretty much stood the test of time.



On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
> Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
> starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
> Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
> Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
> Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
> them on to a sd card for my stream.
> Happy cooking. :)
> Jeanne
>
> On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
>> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
>> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
>> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
>>
>> Marie
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
>> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Rebecca Manners
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>
>> I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
>> available
>> in braille.
>>
>> 
>> From: Cookinginthedark  on behalf of
>> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
>> Cc: Marie Rudys 
>> Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following
>>
>> Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,
>>
>> And in audio formats.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps
>>
>>
>>
>> There are two different rec

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-10 Thread gail johnson via Cookinginthedark
What a hoot.
Milk shake sounds good.
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-07-10 Thread Lee Mounger via Cookinginthedark

Greetings All,


While perusing numerous saved months of this forum I came across this 
post.  Wow, did it bring back some memories.  In 1970, I was a senior at 
Texas School For The Blind.  At the beginning of the year, two other 
senior guys and I needed a half credit to for some reason fill our 
graduation requirements.  It turned out that we could either take shop 
or home ec which meant cooking for half the year until Christmas break.  
We had all taken various kinds of shop for years so we decided together 
that it might be fun to take cooking, and so we did.  Mrs. Tipps had 
been the home ec teacher for many years and in fact, she had written 
Cooking Without Looking which was  inspired by her husband who was 
totally blind and had passed away sometime back.  As fate would have it, 
it ended up being just us three guys and Mrs. Tipps in cooking class.  
It was interesting because I don't think she had ever taught any males 
much less three fun-loving guys like us and no girls in class.  It was 
hard for us to take cooking class really seriously, so we probably took 
it half-seriously.  Anyway, I remember we laughed a lot and worked in 
some learning too.  To her credit, Mrs. Tipps was very tolerant of us.  
For the culmination of the cooking class, each class got to decide what 
they'd like for a meal and then prepare it.  When she asked us what we 
wanted to do for our meal, I wonder how she looked and what she thought 
when we told her we wanted to do chili and milk shakes.  The day before 
our meal, she went shopping and bought everything we'd need.  The next 
day when we came to class, somebody came and told us that Mrs. Tipps was 
out sick but her message to us was to go ahead and prepare our meal.  So 
I remember three unsupervised senior guys prepared and ate our chili and 
milk shakes.  I think we may have laughed the whole period. I remember 
the next class when she came back, the only thing she said was, "You 
know guys, you really didn't have to use all the ice cream for your milk 
shakes".  All in all, she was a nice lady and her book is still useful 
and has pretty much stood the test of time.




On 2/18/2020 3:47 PM, Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:

I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not

Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real

Sauerbraten.



Another book full of tips is written by a

Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to

Independence by Rita Kersh.

It covers everything from housekeeping to

Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can

Hear can also benefit from this book.

Please check it out.  It's on Bard.



Another one available on Bard is

Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired

It is well written by its blind author.



I frequently monitor Bard and so all this

Comes down to knowing w

Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-02-18 Thread Jeanne Fike via Cookinginthedark
Hi everyone,
According to BARD there are two audio versions of the Cooking without
Looking book: one with a db starting with 11 and the other with the db
starting with 52; as well as a braille version. (I just looked.)
When I was a teenager in the 1970s, an aunt of mine read for a Talking
Book organization in the St. Louis area. She recorded a copy of the
Cooking without Looking book (on cassette) and gave it to me at
Christmas that year. I still have the cassettes, but would like to get
them on to a sd card for my stream.
Happy cooking. :)
   Jeanne

On 2/18/20, Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I know; I used to have a braille copy.
> Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
> Has long gone into the recycling bin.
>
> Marie
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
> Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Cc: Rebecca Manners
> Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also
> available
> in braille.
>
> 
> From: Cookinginthedark  on behalf of
> Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
> Cc: Marie Rudys 
> Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
>
>
> For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following
>
> Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,
>
> And in audio formats.
>
>
>
> Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps
>
>
>
> There are two different recordings of this book.
>
> The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there
>
> Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually
>
> Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.
>
>
>
> When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed
>
> He is blind and explains how he does things well, how
>
> To do things step by step without vision or supervision.
>
> He has recipes in the book, and he
>
> Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes
>
> Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by
>
> Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not
>
> Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real
>
> Sauerbraten.
>
>
>
> Another book full of tips is written by a
>
> Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to
>
> Independence by Rita Kersh.
>
> It covers everything from housekeeping to
>
> Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can
>
> Hear can also benefit from this book.
>
> Please check it out.  It's on Bard.
>
>
>
> Another one available on Bard is
>
> Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired
>
> It is well written by its blind author.
>
>
>
> I frequently monitor Bard and so all this
>
> Comes down to knowing what is out there.
>
>
>
> Now, you have more easy recipes when you
>
> Get these books from Bard or your local braille and talking book library.
>
>
>
> Of course, we should continue to help each other on the list.
>
> Don't stop sending tips!!  Even I can benefit,
>
> And I'm an old hand.  There are things I never would
>
> Have thought of, always something new to learn from others.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Marie
>
>
>
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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-02-18 Thread Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
I know; I used to have a braille copy.
Now, the recipes I copied from it are digital, and the book
Has long gone into the recycling bin.

Marie



-Original Message-
From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:11 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Rebecca Manners
Subject: Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

I don't know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also available
in braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on behalf of
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not

Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real

Sauerbraten.



Another book full of tips is written by a

Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to

Independence by Rita Kersh.

It covers everything from housekeeping to

Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can

Hear can also benefit from this book.

Please check it out.  It's on Bard.



Another one available on Bard is

Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired

It is well written by its blind author.



I frequently monitor Bard and so all this

Comes down to knowing what is out there.



Now, you have more easy recipes when you

Get these books from Bard or your local braille and talking book library.



Of course, we should continue to help each other on the list.

Don't stop sending tips!!  Even I can benefit,

And I'm an old hand.  There are things I never would

Have thought of, always something new to learn from others.



Best,

Marie



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-02-18 Thread Rebecca Manners via Cookinginthedark
I don’t know about the others, but Cooking without looking is also available in 
braille.


From: Cookinginthedark  on behalf of 
Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00:30 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org 
Cc: Marie Rudys 
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not

Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real

Sauerbraten.



Another book full of tips is written by a

Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to

Independence by Rita Kersh.

It covers everything from housekeeping to

Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can

Hear can also benefit from this book.

Please check it out.  It's on Bard.



Another one available on Bard is

Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired

It is well written by its blind author.



I frequently monitor Bard and so all this

Comes down to knowing what is out there.



Now, you have more easy recipes when you

Get these books from Bard or your local braille and talking book library.



Of course, we should continue to help each other on the list.

Don't stop sending tips!!  Even I can benefit,

And I'm an old hand.  There are things I never would

Have thought of, always something new to learn from others.



Best,

Marie



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Re: [CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-02-18 Thread Ron Kolesar via Cookinginthedark

Many thanks for this info.
Ron KR3DOG

-Original Message- 
From: Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark

Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Marie Rudys
Subject: [CnD] More books written for the blind

Hello, everyone.



For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.



Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipp's



There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.



When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not

Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real

Sauerbraten.



Another book full of tips is written by a

Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to

Independence by Rita Kersh.

It covers everything from housekeeping to

Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can

Hear can also benefit from this book.

Please check it out.  It's on Bard.



Another one available on Bard is

Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired

It is well written by its blind author.



I frequently monitor Bard and so all this

Comes down to knowing what is out there.



Now, you have more easy recipes when you

Get these books from Bard or your local braille and talking book library.



Of course, we should continue to help each other on the list.

Don't stop sending tips!!  Even I can benefit,

And I'm an old hand.  There are things I never would

Have thought of, always something new to learn from others.



Best,

Marie



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[CnD] More books written for the blind

2020-02-18 Thread Marie Rudys via Cookinginthedark
Hello, everyone.

 

For those who may be interested, I highly recommend the following

Books written for the blind.  They are all on Bard,

And in audio formats.

 

Cooking Without Looking by Esther Knudson Tipps

 

There are two different recordings of this book.

The information is dated, but much of it is useful and there

Are many easy recipes.  One of the audio versions is actually

Read by a blind man from a braille copy for NLS.

 

When the Cook Can't Look by Ralph Reed

He is blind and explains how he does things well, how

To do things step by step without vision or supervision.

He has recipes in the book, and he

Rates them level 1, 2, and 3.  All the recipes

Are easy and that book is well written.  It is read by

Ray Hagen.  One recipe I like is sauerbraten, which is not

Soaked with cookies; that recipe in the book is the real

Sauerbraten.

 

Another book full of tips is written by a

Deaf-blind woman.  It is called Pathways to

Independence by Rita Kersh.

It covers everything from housekeeping to

Cooking without sight and hearing, but those who can

Hear can also benefit from this book.

Please check it out.  It's on Bard.

 

Another one available on Bard is

Adaptive Culinary Techniques for the Visually Impaired

It is well written by its blind author.

 

I frequently monitor Bard and so all this

Comes down to knowing what is out there.

 

Now, you have more easy recipes when you

Get these books from Bard or your local braille and talking book library.

 

Of course, we should continue to help each other on the list.

Don't stop sending tips!!  Even I can benefit,

And I'm an old hand.  There are things I never would

Have thought of, always something new to learn from others.

 

Best,

Marie

 

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