Re: [COOT] drawing symmetry

2008-12-16 Thread Dirk Kostrewa

Hi Eleanor,

this is the first action that I do after loading a molecule: I display  
symmetry-related ones. So, I agree, that displaying symmetry-related  
copies of a molecule should be set to default (as a user-preference,  
maybe).


Dirk.

Am 16.12.2008 um 11:01 schrieb Eleanor Dodson:

Am I alone in thinkingthat the default should be to display symmetry  
related molecules - not to have it turned off?

Eleanor



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Re: [COOT] [ccp4bb] superpose structures .ssm or lsq which is better

2008-12-16 Thread Paul Emsley

junfeng liu wrote:

Dear All,
I am overlaying several structures using coot. There are two ways SSM 
or LSQ can be used  in that package.  But I got clearly different  
result  form  the two methods. In my opinion SSM only works on the 
secondary structures and LSQ can works on the whole atoms ,main chain 
or CA.
So the question is which one is better to overlay structures, LSQ or 
SSM ?


Dear Liu,

Depends on what you are trying to do.  If you are trying to overlay 
proteins that are homologous but have low sequence identity, then 
finding which atoms/residues match with which can be pretty difficult - 
hence you would use SSM.  If, however, your protein chains are similar 
(for example, because they are NCS-related perhaps) then LSQ over a 
particular residue range is probably a better option.


Paul.


[COOT] drawing symmetry

2008-12-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Am I alone in thinkingthat the default should be to display symmetry 
related molecules - not to have it turned off?

Eleanor


Re: [COOT] [ccp4bb] superpose structures .ssm or lsq which is better

2008-12-16 Thread junfeng liu
Thanks Paul and Edwin, I will use SSM first  . It looks little better 
than LSQ .

ta
liu

Paul Emsley wrote:

junfeng liu wrote:

Dear All,
I am overlaying several structures using coot. There are two ways SSM 
or LSQ can be used  in that package.  But I got clearly different  
result  form  the two methods. In my opinion SSM only works on the 
secondary structures and LSQ can works on the whole atoms ,main chain 
or CA.
So the question is which one is better to overlay structures, LSQ or 
SSM ?


Dear Liu,

Depends on what you are trying to do.  If you are trying to overlay 
proteins that are homologous but have low sequence identity, then 
finding which atoms/residues match with which can be pretty difficult 
- hence you would use SSM.  If, however, your protein chains are 
similar (for example, because they are NCS-related perhaps) then LSQ 
over a particular residue range is probably a better option.


Paul.