Re: [COOT] Coot fails to read numeric chain IDs

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Emsley

Kevin Cowtan wrote:
Coot reads files with duplicate atom numbers 
just fine (at least 0.6pre-latest does).



However Coot will ignore any lines beginning
ATOM 1?
ATOM 2?
etc
because those are not valid atom records. So that is the reason these 
are being ignored. 


Yes, we should say that this is handled by the mmdb library from Eugene 
Krissinel.


The original poster could have expedited the analysis somewhat by 
quoting the console log which should have reproduced the problematic 
lines and line numbers.


Paul.

(p.s. back now, less out of touch)


Re: [COOT] sequencing gui

2009-06-04 Thread Bernhard Lohkamp
I guess you didnt give it a chain id. When sequencing the closest
fragment this information is required (maybe it shouldnt, or at least it
should give the appropriate warning - I will look into it at some point).

B

 I'm trying to understand the Extensions- Dock sequence dialogue. 
 How  
 does it work?
 
 I've tried
 
 Place helix here
 Select Dock Sequence
 choose Helix molecule
 Load sequence from a file
 click Sequence closest fragment
 
 then I get
 
 assign-sequence-from-file2 /Users/pre/Documents/Talks/ 
 Crystallography/LMB-2009/MapFitting/Examples/amph2.seq)
 iv: 0 seq.size: 1
 debug pythoning  and  

MAEMGSKGVTAGKIASNVQKKLTRAQEKVLQKLGKADETKDEQFEQCVQNFNKQLTEGTRLQKDLRTYLASVKAMHEASKKLSECLQEVYEPEWPGRDEANKIAENNDLLWMDYHQKLVDQALLTMDTYLGQFPDIKSRIAKRGRKLVDYDSARHHYESLQTAKKKDEAKIAKPVSLLEKAAPQWCQGKLQAHLVAQTNLLRNQAEEELIKAQKVFEEMNVDLQEELPSLWNSRVGFYVNTFQSIAGLEENFHKEMSKLNQNLNDVLVSLEKQHGSNTFTVKAQPSDSAPEKGNKSPSPPPDGSPAATPEIRVNHEPEPASGASPGATIPKSPSQLRKGPPVKHTPSKEMKQEQILSLFDDAFVPEISVTTPSQFEAPGPFSEQASLLDLDFEPLPPVASPVKAPTPSGQSIPWDLWEPTESQAGVLPSGEPSSAEGSFAVAWPSQTAEPGPAQPAEASEVVGGTQEPGETAASEATSSSLPAVVVETFSATVNGAVEGSTTTGRLDLPPGFMFKVQAQHDYTATDTDELQLKAGDVVLVIPFQNPEEQDEGWLMGVKESDWNQHKELEKCRGVFPENFTERVQ
 apply the sequence info here
 
 then cootaneer
 
 ERROR:: the input contains an invalid chain and/or sequence
 BL ERROR:: something went wrong assigning the sequence
 
 
 
 What should I have done?  (Coot 0.6-pre 1 1941, OSX)
 
 Best wishes
 Phil
 


Re: [COOT] sequencing gui

2009-06-04 Thread Phil Evans



OK thanks.

I tried a different example, which did give me a (wrong) assignment -  
is there any way of picking an alternative?


What partly confused me before and again was that this command assigns  
the sequence but doesn't build the side chains - you have to use the  
Fill Partial Residues command, I suppose


Also if I go back to the GUI for the same molecule, it displays 2  
sequences


Thanks again
Phil

---

then cootaneer

iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ

in assign_sequence_from_string
storing sequence:  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 
 for chain id: A
(assign-sequence-from-string2 A  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 
)


Sequence: ?KIEFT?
Confidence: 0.912518


On 4 Jun 2009, at 13:37, Bernhard Lohkamp wrote:



I guess you didnt give it a chain id. When sequencing the closest
fragment this information is required (maybe it shouldnt, or at  
least it
should give the appropriate warning - I will look into it at some  
point).


B


I'm trying to understand the Extensions- Dock sequence dialogue.
How
does it work?

I've tried

Place helix here
Select Dock Sequence
choose Helix molecule
Load sequence from a file
click Sequence closest fragment

then I get

assign-sequence-from-file2 /Users/pre/Documents/Talks/
Crystallography/LMB-2009/MapFitting/Examples/amph2.seq)
iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and


MAEMGSKGVTAGKIASNVQKKLTRAQEKVLQKLGKADETKDEQFEQCVQNFNKQLTEGTRLQKDLRTYLASVKAMHEASKKLSECLQEVYEPEWPGRDEANKIAENNDLLWMDYHQKLVDQALLTMDTYLGQFPDIKSRIAKRGRKLVDYDSARHHYESLQTAKKKDEAKIAKPVSLLEKAAPQWCQGKLQAHLVAQTNLLRNQAEEELIKAQKVFEEMNVDLQEELPSLWNSRVGFYVNTFQSIAGLEENFHKEMSKLNQNLNDVLVSLEKQHGSNTFTVKAQPSDSAPEKGNKSPSPPPDGSPAATPEIRVNHEPEPASGASPGATIPKSPSQLRKGPPVKHTPSKEMKQEQILSLFDDAFVPEISVTTPSQFEAPGPFSEQASLLDLDFEPLPPVASPVKAPTPSGQSIPWDLWEPTESQAGVLPSGEPSSAEGSFAVAWPSQTAEPGPAQPAEASEVVGGTQEPGETAASEATSSSLPAVVVETFSATVNGAVEGSTTTGRLDLPPGFMFKVQAQHDYTATDTDELQLKAGDVVLVIPFQNPEEQDEGWLMGVKESDWNQHKELEKCRGVFPENFTERVQ

apply the sequence info here

then cootaneer

ERROR:: the input contains an invalid chain and/or sequence
BL ERROR:: something went wrong assigning the sequence



What should I have done?  (Coot 0.6-pre 1 1941, OSX)

Best wishes
Phil



Re: [COOT] sequencing gui

2009-06-04 Thread Phil Evans

Ah OK

thanks
Phil

On 4 Jun 2009, at 15:05, Kevin Cowtan wrote:

It's very unlikely to be right on anything much shorter than 12  
residues. The confidence scores are a bit gung-ho.


Phil Evans wrote:


OK thanks.
I tried a different example, which did give me a (wrong) assignment  
- is there any way of picking an alternative?
What partly confused me before and again was that this command  
assigns the sequence but doesn't build the side chains - you have  
to use the Fill Partial Residues command, I suppose
Also if I go back to the GUI for the same molecule, it displays 2  
sequences

Thanks again
Phil
---
then cootaneer
iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 
 in assign_sequence_from_string
storing sequence:  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 
 for chain id: A
(assign-sequence-from-string2 A  
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 
) Sequence: ?KIEFT?

Confidence: 0.912518
On 4 Jun 2009, at 13:37, Bernhard Lohkamp wrote:


I guess you didnt give it a chain id. When sequencing the closest
fragment this information is required (maybe it shouldnt, or at  
least it
should give the appropriate warning - I will look into it at some  
point).


B


I'm trying to understand the Extensions- Dock sequence dialogue.
How
does it work?

I've tried

Place helix here
Select Dock Sequence
choose Helix molecule
Load sequence from a file
click Sequence closest fragment

then I get

assign-sequence-from-file2 /Users/pre/Documents/Talks/
Crystallography/LMB-2009/MapFitting/Examples/amph2.seq)
iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and


MAEMGSKGVTAGKIASNVQKKLTRAQEKVLQKLGKADETKDEQFEQCVQNFNKQLTEGTRLQKDLRTYLASVKAMHEASKKLSECLQEVYEPEWPGRDEANKIAENNDLLWMDYHQKLVDQALLTMDTYLGQFPDIKSRIAKRGRKLVDYDSARHHYESLQTAKKKDEAKIAKPVSLLEKAAPQWCQGKLQAHLVAQTNLLRNQAEEELIKAQKVFEEMNVDLQEELPSLWNSRVGFYVNTFQSIAGLEENFHKEMSKLNQNLNDVLVSLEKQHGSNTFTVKAQPSDSAPEKGNKSPSPPPDGSPAATPEIRVNHEPEPASGASPGATIPKSPSQLRKGPPVKHTPSKEMKQEQILSLFDDAFVPEISVTTPSQFEAPGPFSEQASLLDLDFEPLPPVASPVKAPTPSGQSIPWDLWEPTESQAGVLPSGEPSSAEGSFAVAWPSQTAEPGPAQPAEASEVVGGTQEPGETAASEATSSSLPAVVVETFSATVNGAVEGSTTTGRLDLPPGFMFKVQAQHDYTATDTDELQLKAGDVVLVIPFQNPEEQDEGWLMGVKESDWNQHKELEKCRGVFPENFTERVQ

apply the sequence info here

then cootaneer

ERROR:: the input contains an invalid chain and/or sequence
BL ERROR:: something went wrong assigning the sequence



What should I have done?  (Coot 0.6-pre 1 1941, OSX)

Best wishes
Phil





Re: [COOT] sequencing gui

2009-06-04 Thread Kevin Cowtan
It's very unlikely to be right on anything much shorter than 12 
residues. The confidence scores are a bit gung-ho.


Phil Evans wrote:



OK thanks.

I tried a different example, which did give me a (wrong) assignment - is 
there any way of picking an alternative?


What partly confused me before and again was that this command assigns 
the sequence but doesn't build the side chains - you have to use the 
Fill Partial Residues command, I suppose


Also if I go back to the GUI for the same molecule, it displays 2 
sequences


Thanks again
Phil

---

then cootaneer

iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and 
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ 


in assign_sequence_from_string
storing sequence: 
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ for 
chain id: A
(assign-sequence-from-string2 A 
MHHLVPRGSHMIPSITAYSKNGLKIEFTFERSNTNPSVTVITIQASNSTELDMTDFVFQAAVPKTFQLQLLSPSSSVVPAFNTGTITQVIKVLNPQKQQLRMRIKLTYNHKGSAMQDLAEVNNFPPQSWQ) 



Sequence: ?KIEFT?
Confidence: 0.912518


On 4 Jun 2009, at 13:37, Bernhard Lohkamp wrote:



I guess you didnt give it a chain id. When sequencing the closest
fragment this information is required (maybe it shouldnt, or at least it
should give the appropriate warning - I will look into it at some point).

B


I'm trying to understand the Extensions- Dock sequence dialogue.
How
does it work?

I've tried

Place helix here
Select Dock Sequence
choose Helix molecule
Load sequence from a file
click Sequence closest fragment

then I get

assign-sequence-from-file2 /Users/pre/Documents/Talks/
Crystallography/LMB-2009/MapFitting/Examples/amph2.seq)
iv: 0 seq.size: 1
debug pythoning  and

MAEMGSKGVTAGKIASNVQKKLTRAQEKVLQKLGKADETKDEQFEQCVQNFNKQLTEGTRLQKDLRTYLASVKAMHEASKKLSECLQEVYEPEWPGRDEANKIAENNDLLWMDYHQKLVDQALLTMDTYLGQFPDIKSRIAKRGRKLVDYDSARHHYESLQTAKKKDEAKIAKPVSLLEKAAPQWCQGKLQAHLVAQTNLLRNQAEEELIKAQKVFEEMNVDLQEELPSLWNSRVGFYVNTFQSIAGLEENFHKEMSKLNQNLNDVLVSLEKQHGSNTFTVKAQPSDSAPEKGNKSPSPPPDGSPAATPEIRVNHEPEPASGASPGATIPKSPSQLRKGPPVKHTPSKEMKQEQILSLFDDAFVPEISVTTPSQFEAPGPFSEQASLLDLDFEPLPPVASPVKAPTPSGQSIPWDLWEPTESQAGVLPSGEPSSAEGSFAVAWPSQTAEPGPAQPAEASEVVGGTQEPGETAASEATSSSLPAVVVETFSATVNGAVEGSTTTGRLDLPPGFMFKVQAQHDYTATDTDELQLKAGDVVLVIPFQNPEEQDEGWLMGVKESDWNQHKELEKCRGVFPENFTERVQ 


apply the sequence info here

then cootaneer

ERROR:: the input contains an invalid chain and/or sequence
BL ERROR:: something went wrong assigning the sequence



What should I have done?  (Coot 0.6-pre 1 1941, OSX)

Best wishes
Phil