Re: [COOT] rotamer selection

2023-08-24 Thread Daniel Larsson
I can also add that “Auto Fit Rotamer” tool is probably intended to do #4, but 
to me it is not useful, since it moves the mainchain atoms. I have disable 
backrub rotamers (I think).

Regards,
Daniel





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Hi Paul,

I have some suggestions/requests for facilitating sidechain modelling.


  *   Option to have the rotamer tool default to the rotamer most closely 
resembling the current rotamer (now it defaults to the most common rotamer)
  *   Option to have the rotamer tool default to the rotamer with the highest 
average map value for the atoms. Atoms closer to the Ca should be weight higher 
(as an option). Perhaps also have an option to allow for a small 
rotation/translation.
  *   Show all rotamers in the rotamer library at the same time and then you 
can click on the one that you want (“bouquet” mode)
  *   Automatically select the best rotamer in a chain/molecule considering 
fit-to-density and clashes, but without touching the backbone and not doing any 
refinement.

Perhaps it is already possible to do some of these things already?

Regards,
Daniel









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[COOT] rotamer selection

2023-08-24 Thread Daniel Larsson



Hi Paul,

I have some suggestions/requests for facilitating sidechain modelling.


  *   Option to have the rotamer tool default to the rotamer most closely 
resembling the current rotamer (now it defaults to the most common rotamer)
  *   Option to have the rotamer tool default to the rotamer with the highest 
average map value for the atoms. Atoms closer to the Ca should be weight higher 
(as an option). Perhaps also have an option to allow for a small 
rotation/translation.
  *   Show all rotamers in the rotamer library at the same time and then you 
can click on the one that you want (“bouquet” mode)
  *   Automatically select the best rotamer in a chain/molecule considering 
fit-to-density and clashes, but without touching the backbone and not doing any 
refinement.

Perhaps it is already possible to do some of these things already?

Regards,
Daniel









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Re: [COOT] Coot 9.8.91 is still broken

2023-08-24 Thread Paul Emsley

On 24/08/2023 15:53, Helge Paternoga wrote:



I just had the chance to try out the new Coot version 9.8.91 from CCP4 
and I would like to report that RSR of ribosomes is still broken



Thank you.

I will get to this shortly. I had been hoping to solve the problem 
without a general-purpose (and more complex) link-filtering algorithm. 
It seems that I should not avoid it.


Regards,

Paul.



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Re: [COOT] Coot 9.8.91 is still broken

2023-08-24 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Helge,

> G533 in chain a
> C823 in chain A
> G1186 in chain A
> C1147 in chain A
> A614 in chain a
These are actually what I just reported to Paul - the "DNA-SER" link
problem, while some of them are DNA-TYR, but the same issue.

Coot tries to make these links when RNA/DNA residues are close to SER
or TYR. It is related to the AA-RNA problem:
https://pemsley.github.io/coot/blog/2023/06/05/AA-RNA.html

> D2T
> 3TD
> 6MZ
In the monomer library, they have been demoted to NON-POLYMER because
they do not use the standard atom names. However, it is completely
fine to change D2T and 3TD group names to peptide/RNA, as the
problematic atom names are those that do not exist in polymers (OXT
equivalent for example). Changing 6MZ group name to RNA would be
suboptimal, because they use O1P/O2P/O3P names instead of the standard
OP1/OP2/OP3, and restraints for these atoms would not be used in the
refinement (if you change the group name to RNA).

Best regards,
Keitaro

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 16:03, Helge Paternoga
 wrote:
>
> Dear Paul,
>
> I just had the chance to try out the new Coot version 9.8.91 from CCP4
> and I would like to report that RSR of ribosomes is still broken (albeit
> not as severely as before).
>
> You can have a look at PDB-7K00 for examples:
>
> https://www.rcsb.org/structure/7K00
>
> https://www.ebi.ac.uk/emdb/EMD-22586
>
> I went through the model with sphere refine to check for broken areas
> and identified many, here are a few:
>
> G533 in chain a
> C823 in chain A
> G1186 in chain A
> C1147 in chain A
> A614 in chain a
>
>
> In addition, there are three modified residues in that model that still
> require edited restraints to make them work in Coot:
>
> D2T
> 3TD
> 6MZ
>
> Here, the group name is "NON-POLYMER", I changed that to RNA (3TD+6MZ)
> or L-peptide (D2T) which makes it work in Coot. Is that ok to do?
>
> Many regards,
>
> Helge
>
> 
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[COOT] Coot 9.8.91 is still broken

2023-08-24 Thread Helge Paternoga

Dear Paul,

I just had the chance to try out the new Coot version 9.8.91 from CCP4 
and I would like to report that RSR of ribosomes is still broken (albeit 
not as severely as before).


You can have a look at PDB-7K00 for examples:

https://www.rcsb.org/structure/7K00

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/emdb/EMD-22586

I went through the model with sphere refine to check for broken areas 
and identified many, here are a few:


G533 in chain a
C823 in chain A
G1186 in chain A
C1147 in chain A
A614 in chain a


In addition, there are three modified residues in that model that still 
require edited restraints to make them work in Coot:


D2T
3TD
6MZ

Here, the group name is "NON-POLYMER", I changed that to RNA (3TD+6MZ) 
or L-peptide (D2T) which makes it work in Coot. Is that ok to do?


Many regards,

Helge



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