Re: [COOT] coot 0.9.4.1 installation on centos 8

2021-02-28 Thread William G. Scott
Sorry, I am still struggling to get it working on Ubuntu and on os x.



> On Feb 28, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Ming Sun  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill and Paul
> 
> Thanks for the messages. However, I tried removing the reducent libpng files 
> in the coot bin lib folder, and also tried several other different Scientific 
> Linux versions of coot. However, it is still not working. I'm wondering if 
> it's more of a cenos8 issue in general or some other local set-up.
> 
> Any suggestions are warmly welcomed. Thank you all again.
> 
> best,
> Ming
> 
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:18 AM William G. Scott  wrote:
> Hi Ming:
> 
> I got some similar errors on my Ubuntu install.  Removing some of the 
> non-coot libraries (like libpng) that are duplicated might help.  Also, make 
> sure you have the appropriate processor architecture.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> > On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Ming Sun  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I'm trying to install the recent released version of coot on centos 8 linux 
> > machine. However, I keep having the following error messages. Any inputs 
> > are warmly welcome. Many thanks in advances
> > 
> > coot version, 
> > coot-0.9.4.1-binary-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-python-gtk2.tar.gz, 
> > released on 2021-02-02
> > 
> > error messages:
> > /home/software/coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
> >  error while loading shared libraries: libpng15.so.15: wrong ELF class: 
> > ELFCLASS32
> > 
> > create soft link in coot/lib/ but not working either
> > sudo ln -s /bin/lib/libpng15.so.15 
> > coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python/lib/libpng15.so.15
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > Ming
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [COOT] coot 0.9.4.1 installation on centos 8

2021-02-22 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Ming:

I got some similar errors on my Ubuntu install.  Removing some of the non-coot 
libraries (like libpng) that are duplicated might help.  Also, make sure you 
have the appropriate processor architecture.

Bill



> On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Ming Sun  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I'm trying to install the recent released version of coot on centos 8 linux 
> machine. However, I keep having the following error messages. Any inputs are 
> warmly welcome. Many thanks in advances
> 
> coot version, 
> coot-0.9.4.1-binary-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-python-gtk2.tar.gz, 
> released on 2021-02-02
> 
> error messages:
> /home/software/coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
>  error while loading shared libraries: libpng15.so.15: wrong ELF class: 
> ELFCLASS32
> 
> create soft link in coot/lib/ but not working either
> sudo ln -s /bin/lib/libpng15.so.15 
> coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python/lib/libpng15.so.15
> 
> Thanks! 
> Ming
> 
> 
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Re: [COOT] latest osx version of coot

2020-11-11 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Leonard et al:

I want to apologize to you and everyone for dropping the ball on this.  Between 
a massive wildfire that almost took out our house (and destroyed those of 
several colleagues), the pandemic, a forced lab move on short notice, and a 
pile of new teaching assignments, I haven’t managed to put some time into this 
for awhile.  I’ll try to do so as soon as I can.  Meanwhile, a CCP4 update 
might be the best bet.

Sorry.

Bill



> On Nov 11, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Thomas, Leonard M.  wrote:
> 
> Okay after trolling the wiki and other site I cannot find anything about the 
> latest version of COOT for OSX. 
> 
> Any pointers would be grateful.
> 
> Len Thomas
> 
> Leonard M. Thomas Ph.D.
> Macromolecular Crystallography Laboratory
> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> University of Oklahoma
> 101 Stephenson Parkway
> Norman, OK 73019
> 405-325-1126
> lmtho...@ou.edu
> http://www.ou.edu/structuralbiology/cobre-core-facilities/mcl
> 
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Re: [COOT] Coot Fink 10.15

2020-04-24 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Ed:

I invested a lot of time into fink, so I was reluctant to let it go, but it 
might be time.  When it was at its prime, it was the best-managed and and most 
science-oriented of the third-party package manager systems.  MacPorts is 
another option I want to take a look at.  To be honest, I kind of have burned 
out on this stuff in the last few years.  

We will figure something out.  Compared to all that is going on in NYC right 
now, these problems will hopefully be minor.  

Take care.

Bill



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Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064  
USA
 
http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/SARS-CoV-2/

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Edward Miller  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Bill, as always for the dedicated support.
> 
> I've been a fink user, actually due to your packages, for at least ten years.
> 
> Maybe it's time to switch to home-brew? Would they have more gtk+2 
> flexibility?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ed Miller
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:52 PM William G. Scott  wrote:
> Hi Ed (and COOT list):
> 
> I’ve put updated info files here:   http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/fink/finkupdate/
> 
> I’m trying to get these into fink as soon as possible, BUT there are two 
> show-stopper problems:
> 
> (1) The old refmac I have won’t compile with the newer versions of gcc, and 
> we really need a new version of this anyway for coot.  (Coot only requires 
> refmac at runtime, so it can use whatever version you might have with CCP4). 
> If anyone knows of a more recent version that is available for unrestricted 
> download and installation, please let me know.
> 
> (2) Coot itself requires a newer version of gtk+2 than what fink has, and 
> they are objecting that the newer version of gtk+2 has bugs in it that break 
> other programs, so I am stuck on a pre-release version of coot.
> 
> None of this is at all satisfactory, and I apologize.
> 
> I haven’t yet had a chance to download the most recent CCP4 package, but from 
> what I understand, it has the latest coot (and refmac), so if you need the 
> new version, I suggest you do that.
> 
> 
> If we can’t have a more recent version of coot in fink vs. ccp4, and can’t 
> have refmac, it kind of makes it pointless to maintain coot in fink.
> 
> Bill
> 
> William G. Scott
> Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> University of California at Santa Cruz
> Santa Cruz, California 95064
> USA
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:24 AM, William G. Scott  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ed:
> > 
> > Briefly, I need to update the package.
> > 
> > Less briefly, I need to change to gcc9, which is easy, and I need to update 
> > to the latest version of coot, 0.9, which is proving to be a nightmare.
> > 
> > I need to go teach a class and will then get back to you with something I 
> > hope will work.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > PS:  If you just want the latest coot, it looks like the latest version of 
> > CCP4, just released, has it.  They are ahead of me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William G. Scott
> > Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> > Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> > and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> > University of California at Santa Cruz
> > Santa Cruz, California 95064
> > USA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Apr 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Edward Miller  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Professor Scott,
> >> 
> >> I'm trying to install coot via fink on OS X 10.15. This is a clean fink 
> >> install, so I completely blasted my /sw directory prior to this.
> >> 
> >> The installation is looking for a gcc5 package:
> >> 
> >> Can't resolve dependency "gcc5-shlibs (>= 5.1.0-2)" for package 
> >> "coot-0.8.9-2" (no matching packages/versions found)
> >> Exiting with failure.
> >> 
> >> Is this dependency correct?
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your help and for contributing to crystallography on os x for 
> >> all these years.
> >> 
> >> Ed Miller
> > 
> 



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Re: [COOT] Coot Fink 10.15

2020-04-24 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Ed (and COOT list):

I’ve put updated info files here:   http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/fink/finkupdate/

I’m trying to get these into fink as soon as possible, BUT there are two 
show-stopper problems:

(1) The old refmac I have won’t compile with the newer versions of gcc, and we 
really need a new version of this anyway for coot.  (Coot only requires refmac 
at runtime, so it can use whatever version you might have with CCP4). If anyone 
knows of a more recent version that is available for unrestricted download and 
installation, please let me know.

(2) Coot itself requires a newer version of gtk+2 than what fink has, and they 
are objecting that the newer version of gtk+2 has bugs in it that break other 
programs, so I am stuck on a pre-release version of coot.

None of this is at all satisfactory, and I apologize.

I haven’t yet had a chance to download the most recent CCP4 package, but from 
what I understand, it has the latest coot (and refmac), so if you need the new 
version, I suggest you do that.


If we can’t have a more recent version of coot in fink vs. ccp4, and can’t have 
refmac, it kind of makes it pointless to maintain coot in fink.

Bill

William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA



> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:24 AM, William G. Scott  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed:
> 
> Briefly, I need to update the package.
> 
> Less briefly, I need to change to gcc9, which is easy, and I need to update 
> to the latest version of coot, 0.9, which is proving to be a nightmare.
> 
> I need to go teach a class and will then get back to you with something I 
> hope will work.
> 
> Bill
> 
> PS:  If you just want the latest coot, it looks like the latest version of 
> CCP4, just released, has it.  They are ahead of me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> William G. Scott
> Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> University of California at Santa Cruz
> Santa Cruz, California 95064
> USA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Edward Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Professor Scott,
>> 
>> I'm trying to install coot via fink on OS X 10.15. This is a clean fink 
>> install, so I completely blasted my /sw directory prior to this.
>> 
>> The installation is looking for a gcc5 package:
>> 
>> Can't resolve dependency "gcc5-shlibs (>= 5.1.0-2)" for package 
>> "coot-0.8.9-2" (no matching packages/versions found)
>> Exiting with failure.
>> 
>> Is this dependency correct?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help and for contributing to crystallography on os x for all 
>> these years.
>> 
>> Ed Miller
> 



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Re: [COOT] error No appropriate OpenGL-capable visual found

2018-04-04 Thread William G. Scott
Try re-installing Xquartz.

https://www.xquartz.org


William G. Scott

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Elena Zehr <zehr.el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After upgrading my MacOS to High Sierra, coot stopped running giving me the 
> error below. Do you know what is missing?
> 
> bash-3.2$ coot
> INFO:: Using Standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary from CLIBD_MON: 
> /programs/i386-mac/ccp4/7.0/ccp4-7.0/lib/data/monomers/
> INFO:: Reading coordinate file: 
> /programs/i386-mac/ccp4/7.0/ccp4-7.0/share/coot/standard-residues.pdb
> PDB file 
> /programs/i386-mac/ccp4/7.0/ccp4-7.0/share/coot/standard-residues.pdb has 
> been read.
> Spacegroup: P 1
> 
> *** Cannot find the double-buffered visual.
> *** Trying single-buffered visual.
> 
> *** No appropriate OpenGL-capable visual found.
> catching the crash log:
> coot-exe: "/programs/i386-mac/ccp4/7.0/ccp4-7.0/libexec/coot-bin"
> coot-version: 
> /programs/i386-mac/ccp4/7.0/ccp4-7.0/libexec/coot-bin
> platform: 
> /usr/bin/uname
> core: #f
> No core file found.  No debugging
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> Elena


Re: [COOT] Mac Binaries (Release 0.8.9.1)

2018-04-02 Thread William G. Scott
For those using fink, I’ve updated the fink package info file

http://fennario.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/finkinfo/coot.info

I still need to figure out how to get it into fink.

Meanwhile, you can put the file in /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sci  and 
build it.


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Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu


> On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:58 PM, Paul Emsley <pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 01/04/2018 22:00, Paul Emsley wrote:
>> We are pleased to announce the 14th Anniversary release of Coot: 0.8.9.1
> 
> Mac binaries:
> 
> http://psbmini.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/stablereleases/
> 
> Thanks Bill.
> 
> Paul.


[COOT] New hardware lets any computer run an interactive, 3D interface | Ars Technica

2017-11-21 Thread William G. Scott
I wonder if coot might be able to take advantage of this:


> https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/new-hardware-lets-any-computer-run-an-interactive-3d-interface/
>  
> <https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/new-hardware-lets-any-computer-run-an-interactive-3d-interface/>


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Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064  
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu


Re: [COOT] APBS binary location MacPymol

2014-10-27 Thread William G. Scott
 On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:48 AM, Lau Sze Yi lau_sze...@immunol.a-star.edu.sg 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I had MacPyMOL. In order to use APBS, I rename app to MacPyMOLX11Hybrid. I am 
 ask to supply the APBS binary location but could not find it.
 
 Regards,
 Sze Yi

You have to install it separately.

You might get better responses asking about pymol on the pymol mailing list.

(Asking questions about PyMOL on the coot email list is kind of like ordering 
flowers for your mistress on your spouse’s cell phone and credit card.)




William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
 


Re: [COOT] Stand Alone Coot for 10.6–10.8

2014-09-18 Thread William G. Scott
Sorry.  I forgot to change one occurrence in the build script.  Should be fixed 
now.


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and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064  
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott

 On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Mark A Saper sa...@umich.edu wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 I installed the latest stand alone Coot from the 10.6 page and the file 
 /Library/Coot/bin/coot-bin does not exist.  Any idea where it is?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 ___
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[COOT] Coot on OS X 10.6.X ?

2014-09-14 Thread William G. Scott
Hi folks:

Does anyone use my pre-compiled version of coot for OS X 10.6 anymore?  (This 
would be either the 10.6 stand-alone or the fink debian distribution)?

Fink has discontinued support for 10.6, and I only have the one mac mini in my 
lab running it, so at some point the end is inevitable.

(My personal, irrelevant opinion was that 10.6.8 was the best version of OS X 
and it has been in decline ever since.)

Also, we made a lot of small changes recently in the 10.7-10.9 coot fink dist 
and the 10.9 stand-alone packages, so please let me know if there is any 
weirdness.

All the best,

Bill




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http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott


Re: [COOT] Extensions Menu disappeared

2014-09-03 Thread William G. Scott
Another option is to install this manually:


curl -O  
http://fennario.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.9_64bit_sw/10.9/local/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/guile18-gtk-shlibs_2.1-1_darwin-x86_64.deb”

curl -O  
“http://fennario.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.9_64bit_sw/10.9/local/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/guile18-gtk_2.1-1_darwin-x86_64.deb”

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

This is the same package with a later epoch label so fink updates won’t touch 
it.



On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:40 AM, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote:

 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:33 AM, Dimitry Rodionov d.rodio...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jianghai,
 Building Coot from source using fink solved this problem for me.
 Regards,
 Dmitry
 
 On Sep 3, 2014 8:22 AM, Jianghai Zhu z...@crystal.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am using Coot 0.8-pre-revision-5201-1 under OS X 10.9.4.  I installed it 
 using Bill’s fink binary. Now when I ran Coot, the Extensions Menu 
 disappeared. I got the following error during the start of Coot.
 
 load coot-gui.scm”
 (Error in proc: unbound-variable args:  (#f Unbound variable: ~S 
 (gtk-callback-trampoline) #f))
 
 When I ran Coot from PHENIX package, the Extensions Menu also disappeared. 
 
 Could anyone give me some suggestions on how to resolve this issue?  Thanks 
 a lot.
 
 
 — Jianghai
 
 
 I ran into this kind of thing before, and it turned out to be bug in the 
 guile18-gtk-shlibs debian file that fink distributed (rather than mine).  It 
 can be a wee bit finicky.
 
 Try re-compiling guile18-gtk
 
 At some point we hope to remove this as a dependency.
 
 Sorry.
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


[COOT] symmetry operator notation question

2014-08-30 Thread William G. Scott
Hi folks:

What is the meaning of the last field — the one in curly brackets -- that 
describes the symmetry transformation of a given atom in coot? For example, for 
a given X Y Z, coot displays the symmetry transformation of an equivalent 
position as  Y+1/2, -X+1/2, Z + (0 -1 1)  { 1 0 1 }”.

Thanks.

Bill




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Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064  
USA

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Re: [COOT] r5166 python error on Mac

2014-07-27 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Oliver et al:

On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Oliver Clarke oc2...@columbia.edu wrote:

 WARNING:: No coot.py file found! Python scripting unavailable.

It looks like this is the problem.  For some reason it is no longer getting 
copied from the src to python directory.  If I do this manually, it works.

I’m working on update/fix now.  

I apologize for not seeing this on July 20th.

Bill


Re: [COOT] coot crash when loading mtz file

2014-06-19 Thread William G. Scott
On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:33 AM, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote:

 If the user has set $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH  (perhaps via ccp4), it is possible 
 this gets over-ridden.

I can reproducibly mess coot up with this:

   export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Applications/ccp4-6.4.0/lib

and un-mess it up with this:

  export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=

Re: [COOT] unable to launch coot

2014-03-14 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Nacho:

The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably broke 
the “stable” coot package.

Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot

Sorry,

Bill



On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis imirsanc...@uchicago.edu 
wrote:

 Dear cooters,
 I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
 Scott lab web page 
 (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
 When I try to launch coot this message appears:
 
 dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
  Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
  Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
 in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
 /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5   /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 Thank you so much in advance.
 
 Nacho

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Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
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Re: [COOT] unable to launch coot

2014-03-14 Thread William G. Scott
 I am updating the “stable” coot in fink to rev. 4965 which should work fine 
with the latest rkdit.


On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:11 AM, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote:

 Dear Nacho:
 
 The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably 
 broke the “stable” coot package.
 
 Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).
 
 http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot
 
 Sorry,
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis imirsanc...@uchicago.edu 
 wrote:
 
 Dear cooters,
 I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
 Scott lab web page 
 (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
 When I try to launch coot this message appears:
 
 dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
 Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
 Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
 in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
 /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5   /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 Thank you so much in advance.
 
 Nacho
 
 William G. Scott
 Professor
 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
 and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
 University of California at Santa Cruz
 Santa Cruz, California 95064
 USA
 http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/scottlab/
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] coot - save coordinates

2013-10-08 Thread William G. Scott
I am clueless on this one, so I'll post it to the coot mailing list in case 
anyone else has seen this ….


On Oct 8, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Felix Frolow wrote:

 Hi Bill, I regularly update coot using FINK ( from your repository)
 Since one of the recent versions of coot ( difficult to say from when, maybe 
 couple of month back) save of coordinates take unreasonably long time.
 Simultaneously a flowing message appears:
 
 
 INFO:: Setting fileselection with file: 
 /Users/mbfrolow/ModificationOfM_refmac1-coot-0.pdb
 (filter-fileselection-filenames-state)
 sys:1: GtkWarning: Unable to find default local directory monitor type
 Fontconfig warning: ignoring UTF-8: not a valid region tag
 sys:1: GtkWarning: Could not find the icon 'application-x-palm-database'. The 
 'hicolor' theme
 was not found either, perhaps you need to install it.
 You can get a copy from:
   http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases
 
 
 Could you please comment? I use MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion which is 
 probably which I guess is irrelevant.
 
 Dr Felix Frolow   
 Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology, Department of Molecular 
 Microbiology and Biotechnology
 Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel
 
 Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor
 

Re: [COOT] Symbol not found: _iconv

2013-09-20 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Daniele de Sanctis de.sanct...@gmail.com wrote:

 I already tried everything I found on the web (Reinstall OS, Repair disk
 etc). Thanks in advance for your help
 
 Daniele

Hi Daniele:

This is usually due to setting 

$DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH

which is best avoided.  I think the ccp4 shell initialization scripts do this 
still. 

If /Applications/coot.app  requires that, it is broken.

Before doing anything radical like reinstalling OS X, unsetting 
$DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH is at least worth a try, i.e.,

export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=  

on bash or zsh, or 

unsetenv DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH

on tcsh should do it.

Also, you could try installing coot from here, as a control (or an alternative):

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot

Good luck.

Bill




William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
 


Re: [COOT] fink: coot-0.7.1.0-6 for 10.6

2013-09-06 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Steffen Schmidt steffen.schm...@tuebingen.mpg.de 
wrote:

 
  coot0.7.1.0-7   Crystallographic molecular graphics
  coot-pre0.8-pre-4749Crystallographic molecular graphics
  refmac  5.7.0032-3  CCP4 refmac5 standalone update
 
 Great, it works for me also!
 Do you plan to have it also available for 10.6?

Done!


Re: [COOT] fink: coot-0.7.1.0-6 - refmac cif file not found

2013-09-05 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 5, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Steffen Schmidt steffen.schm...@tuebingen.mpg.de 
wrote:

 
 
 OK, I fixed it properly now. (I hope).
 
 The newest revisions for coot, refmac and coot-pre are these:
 
  coot0.7.1.0-7   Crystallographic molecular graphics
  coot-pre0.8-pre-4749Crystallographic molecular graphics
  refmac  5.7.0032-3  CCP4 refmac5 standalone update
 
 Great, it works for me also!
 Do you plan to have it also available for 10.6?
 
 Steffen


Yes, I'll try to get it done (tested) today.

Bill



William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

 


Re: [COOT] fink: coot-0.7.1.0-6 - refmac cif file not found

2013-09-04 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Steffen Schmidt steffen.schm...@tuebingen.mpg.de 
wrote:

 Hey Bill,
 
 I noticed that coot complains that 
 
 WARNING: in init_refmac_mon_lib file 
 /sw/share/coot/lib/data/monomers/list/mon_lib_list.cif not found.
 WARNING:: energy lib /sw/share/coot/lib/data/monomers/ener_lib.cif not found.
 
 It looks like you can fix this by
 
 changing /sw/share/coot/lib/data/monomers to a symlink to refmac:
 
 ln -s /sw/share/refmac/monomers /sw/share/coot/lib/data/
 
 Are the soft link that you create in the .info file correct for you? 
 
 
 Best
   Steffen


OK, I fixed it properly now. (I hope).

The newest revisions for coot, refmac and coot-pre are these:

coot0.7.1.0-7   Crystallographic molecular graphics
coot-pre0.8-pre-4749Crystallographic molecular graphics
refmac  5.7.0032-3  CCP4 refmac5 standalone update


Re: [COOT] Downloading Coot

2013-09-03 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Dale Tronrud det...@uoxray.uoregon.edu wrote:

   I was looking for the download site for Coot but the links have
 have found point to
 
 http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/personal/pemsley/coot/
 
 but there is nothing there.  Where do I go to find prebuilt coot
 binaries?
 
 Dale Tronrud


Paul's binaries are here:

http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/Personal/pemsley/coot/binaries/

OS X ones I built are here:

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot

Source code is here:

http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/Personal/pemsley/coot/source/

Windows version is here:

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~lohkamp/coot/


[COOT] maintaining Coot on OS 10.6.8

2013-07-12 Thread William G. Scott
On Apr 24, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Andreas Förster docandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Özkan and all,
 
 this question was asked by Dave a month and a half ago 
 (https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1303L=cootP=R286), but 
 there was no reply.
 
 Snow Leopard is deprecated, even though 25% of OSX users, presumably 
 unwilling to downgrade their laptop to a smartphone clone, still use it.  I 
 understand that Bill doesn't have an SL machine anymore.
 
 But please, please, is there a way to keep coot going on SL?
 
 
 Andreas

HI Andreas:

I have two machines running 10.6.8, and as long as one of those is still alive, 
I still plan to maintain this.  I don't have 10.7, and will probably update 
10.8 to 10.9 when the time comes (unless they botch it as much as they did 
10.7).

Sorry about not answering the questions earlier.  I've been trying to rehab 
from a broken ankle and so am even a bit more out of it than usual.

Bill


Re: [COOT] Latest Coot from Fink crashing

2013-02-19 Thread William G. Scott
Sorry.  I just got my 10.6 computer back up and did another build a few hours 
ago.

I haven't been able to reproduce the issue, but was only trying on 10.8.  

I'm having python mis-match problems on 10.6.  


On Feb 19, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Dmitry Rodionov d.rodio...@gmail.com wrote:

 This seems to be a 10.6 issue since same version on 10.8 centres fine.
 
 On 2013-02-19, at 4:09 PM, Dmitry Rodionov d.rodio...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 After upgrading to latest (Fink's 0.7.1-pre-4562) coot we are experiencing a 
 strange problem:
 coot reproducibly crashes if one tries to centre on a non-protein non-water 
 atom.
 
 Coot's last words:
 
 (0)  S  /1/chainid=B/1/DMS,  occ: 0.79 with B-factor: 27.78 element:  
 S at (12.282,65.946,153.1) : 0.180006
 INFO:: recentre: clicked on imol: 0
 coot-real(60501,0x7fff71290cc0) malloc: *** error for object 0x7fff5fbfbd68: 
 pointer being freed was not allocated
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 /sw/bin/coot: line 6: 60501 Abort trap  /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 or
 
 (0)  P  /1/chainid=/1/PO4,  occ: 1 with B-factor: 30 element:  P at 
 (0,0.021,0.036) : 0.153325
 INFO:: recentre: clicked on imol: 0
 coot-real(19455,0x7fff70f8dcc0) malloc: *** error for object 0x7fff5fbfbea8: 
 pointer being freed was not allocated
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 /sw/bin/coot: line 6: 19455 Abort trap  /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 every time it's something about pointer being freed was not allocated.
 
 Purging and rebuilding Coot does not fix the problem.
 
 Has anybody seen this behaviour?
 
 Best regards,
  Dmitry
 


[COOT] New pre-release for 10.8 with rdkit

2013-02-10 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Citizens:

I've tried to put together a new coot package with rdkit incorporated.  I would 
be grateful if anyone would be willing
to test it on OS X 10.8.2.

You can get it here:  http://psbmini.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/?C=M;O=D
or using apt-get in fink.

I tried compiling it on 10.6.8 and crashed my computer with the main website on 
it. Sorry.  I can't drive due to a broken ankle so it might be awhile before it 
is up again.

Good luck.

Bill




William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
 

Re: [COOT] coot crushes in the beginning

2013-02-08 Thread William G. Scott
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Arto artop...@berkeley.edu wrote:

 /Users/pulk/.coot-preferences/0-coot-history.scm

Try moving or deleting that file and see if it works again.


[COOT] next version?

2013-01-18 Thread William G. Scott
Which button in COOT do I press to print a PDB file represented as a 
ball-and-stick model to get a 3D printout from someplace like this?  
http://www.shapeways.com


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

 


Re: [COOT] No updates

2012-11-12 Thread William G. Scott
Paul has worked his arse off for over 10 years on Coot, and has made it free, 
as in beer, for us, and very deservingly has now got a job at the best place on 
the planet to do science.

Maybe this is a good time for us all to say thanks and congratulations, to 
cheer him on, and to give him a chance to unpack.

-- Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

 

On Nov 12, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Paul Emsley pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 16:08 +0100, Jon Agirre wrote:
 Starting in October, I noticed that Paul changed his e-mail address
 from ox.ac.uk to cam.ac.uk. I wonder if it has anything to do with the
 lack of updates.
 
 Yes.  Everything (actually MRC-LMB (and what that has to do with
 cam.ac.uk I have no idea)).
 
 The Oxford site is dead for all practical purposes (I can no longer log
 in to change things).  I will try to get a new permanent home on the web
 for Coot - when that's in place, I will let you know.
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Paul.


Re: [COOT] Release 0.7

2012-09-29 Thread William G. Scott
Additional OS X builds are linked here:

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot



On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Paul Emsley paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk wrote:

 Mac 10.8:
 
 http://psbmini.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/stablereleases/Coot-0.7-stable_64bit_10.8.2.pkg.zip
 


Re: [COOT] fink stuff (OS X)

2012-09-12 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:38 AM, Chris Richardson chris.richard...@icr.ac.uk wrote:

 Apologies for reanimating this long-dead discussion, but did you reach a 
 conclusion about putting ccp4 6.3.0 in fink?  


Apologies to everyone for the delay.  

Yes.

I'm now posting news about fink updates relevant to coot and ccp4 here:

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Crystallography_on_OSX_Blog

I hope this will be of use to someone.  You can post comments, suggestions, job 
offers and death threats without impediment.

Ultimately I am hoping to have a separate ccp4-libs package that can be used 
for coot and the ccp4 suite, to prevent users from having to install two sets 
of what should be the same libraries.

Peace and joy,

Bill





William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

 


Re: [COOT] 0.7-pre-1-4305 crashes on OSX 10.8

2012-09-04 Thread William G. Scott
This is my fault.

The problem is caused by line #5 in the /sw/bin/coot wrapper script.  

Instead of 

export 
PYTHONPATH=/sw/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/sw/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0:/sw/share/coot/python:$PYTHONPATH

try

export 
PYTHONPATH=/sw/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/sw/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0:/sw/share/coot/python

and it should work.

Coot is inheriting $PYTHONPATH from some other location, probably CCP4, and is 
getting messed up.  I'm about to update the fink package, as soon as I confirm 
today's svn (r4386) compiles and behaves.

Sorry.

Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:   wgsc...@ucsc.edu

On Sep 4, 2012, at 5:38 AM, Martin Montgomery m...@mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk wrote:

 
 If you feel like testing, please copy over the following python files from 
 your 4303 to 4305 installation:
 
 python/user-defined-restraints.py
 python/coot-utils.py
 python/extension.py
 
 fingers crossed that should help.
 
 Thanks Paul,
 However, I copied over the python files from 4303 (I don't have a 
 user_defined_restraints.py) and still get the error. 
 
 Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread
 /sw/bin/coot: line 6: 37821 Abort trap: 6   /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 Regards
 
 MGM
 
 
 
 On 4 Sep 2012, at 12:22, Paul Emsley paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk wrote:
 
 On 04/09/12 10:23, Martin Montgomery wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm having trouble with 0.7-pre-1-4305 installed through fink on osx 10.8.1
 I updated to fink 0.34.3 then coot 0.7-pre-1-4305.
 Coot now crashes after the launch of the splash screen with the following 
 message:
 
 Spacegroup: P 1
 Cell: 40.631 109.18 93.243 90 90 90
 initalize graphics molecules...done.
 (filter-fileselection-filenames-state)
 (get-active-map-drag-flag)
 (use-graphics-interface-state)
 DEBUG:: stating pydirectory /sw/share/coot/python
 INFO:: importing coot.py from /sw/share/coot/python/coot.py
 Importing python module coot using command from coot import *
 INFO:: coot.py imported
 Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread
 /sw/bin/coot: line 6: 50934 Abort trap: 6   /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 The previous version (4303) was working perfectly (and still is on my 
 laptop with fink 0.34.2).
 
 A quick google showed at least two others had found the same problem but 
 hadn't posted to the list.
 
 Is there a fix?
 
 
 
 I didn't know about this recent problem until I (too) did some googling.
 
 I did see a ChangeLog entry from 2004:
 
  * src/main.cc (main): Put PYTHON macroed code before GUILE, so
  that python is initialized when we have --with-guile
  --with-python, which deals with Fatal Python error:
  PyThreadState_Get: no current thread.
 
 
 which makes me believe that I have inadvertently somehow made a similar 
 mistake (that is only apparent on Mac XXX).  How I could have done that and 
 why it only fails on Mac, I don't know.
 
 Having said that, if you have localized the problem between 4303 and 4305 
 (as seems to be the case), Bernhard (who is now on holiday) wrote r4304 and 
 r4305 - but that consists mostly of python scripting changes (the prosmart 
 interface, in particular).
 
 If you feel like testing, please copy over the following python files from 
 your 4303 to 4305 installation:
 
 python/user-defined-restraints.py
 python/coot-utils.py
 python/extension.py
 
 fingers crossed that should help.
 
 Paul.
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] problem with Auto open MTZ in coot

2012-08-03 Thread William G. Scott
What happens if you try to display a pdb and map downloaded from the EDS?  I 
believe that uses the same auto-open sequence, and it would help in figuring 
out whether the problem is with a refmac incompatibility or something else…

On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Pernigo, Stefano stefano.1.pern...@kcl.ac.uk 
wrote:

 Dear coot users,
 
 I've tried to auto-open several MTZ files without success. 


Re: [COOT] CCP4 6.3.0 released

2012-07-17 Thread William G. Scott
On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Felix Frolow wrote:

  I will wait for fink version if it will be one… :-\

Does anyone use or want this anymore?

-- Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
 +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:wgsc...@ucsc.edu


Re: [COOT] CCP4 6.3.0 released

2012-07-17 Thread William G. Scott
I don't, but I will try to get it done by the time 10.8 is released, if not 
sooner.

Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
 +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:wgsc...@ucsc.edu

On Jul 17, 2012, at 2:53 PM, jbosch wrote:

 Bill I insist, I'm completely finked.
 And if you can have a 10.8 pre-release that would be great too.
 
 Jürgen
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 5:34 PM, William G. Scott wrote:
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Felix Frolow wrote:
 
 I will wait for fink version if it will be one… :-\
 
 Does anyone use or want this anymore?
 
 -- Bill
 
 
 William G. Scott
 Professor
 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
 and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
 University of California at Santa Cruz
 Santa Cruz, California 95064
 USA
 
 phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
+1-831-459-5292 (lab)
 fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
 email:wgsc...@ucsc.edu
 


Re: [COOT] Coot nucleic acid issue

2012-03-29 Thread William G. Scott
The executable coot is really a wrapper shell script for coot-real, which 
is the coot binary.

The shell script in essence sets up the environment in which coot runs.

The relevant variable for finding the coot refmac dictionary (library) 
directory is called $COOT_REFMAC_LIB_DIR

Where these point to will be different for different installations.

For my OS X pre-built coot, it looks like this:


 cat /usr/local/bin/coot
#!/bin/sh -f
source /Library/Coot/bin/init.sh
export COOT_REFMAC_LIB_DIR=/Library/Coot/share/coot/lib
export COOT_PYTHON_DIR=/Library/Coot/share/coot/python
export COOT_SBASE_DIR=$CCP4/share/sbase
export 
PYTHONPATH=/Library/Coot/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/Library/Coot/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0:/Library/Coot/share/coot/python:$PYTHONPATH
/Library/Coot/bin/coot-real $@ 





William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:   wgsc...@ucsc.edu

On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Longfei Wang wrote:

 Hi William,
 
 Thank you for your suggestion. Another question, how to import the whole
 dictionary into coot?
 
 Best
 Longfei
 
 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:09 PM, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote:
 
 Try this:
 
 
 http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/data/refmac_experimental/refmac_dictionary_v5.33.tar.gz
 
 It seems to behave with nucleic acids correctly, at least in my hands.
 
 There is also a newer one (March 10, 2012).  Maybe you should try that
 first.
 
 
 http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/data/refmac_experimental/refmac_dictionary_v5.35.tar.gz
 
 
 William G. Scott
 Professor
 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
 and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
 University of California at Santa Cruz
 Santa Cruz, California 95064
 USA
 
 phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
 +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
 fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax)
 email:   wgsc...@ucsc.edu
 
 On Mar 27, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Longfei Wang wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 I've received a bug report about coot. I think this is a good place to
 report.
 Here is the summary of the problem. If open a molecule and try to build a
 new nucleotide, Coot crashes. This happened for the version of Coot 3936,
 both in Linux and WinCoot. A labmate suspects that there are library
 issues
 with regards to PDB version between Coot and REFMAC. An additional issue:
 Protein residues with hydrogens present can be real space refined in
 Coot.
 However, nucleic acid residues with hydrogens present cannot be real
 space
 refined in Coot. Attempting to do this results in exploding hydrogens.
 
 
 Best
 Longfei
 
 --
 *Longfei Wang
 *
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Harvard Medical School
 250 Longwood Ave
 Boston, MA 02115
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 *Longfei Wang
 *
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Harvard Medical School
 250 Longwood Ave
 Boston, MA 02115


Re: [COOT] Coot nucleic acid issue

2012-03-27 Thread William G. Scott
Try this:

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/data/refmac_experimental/refmac_dictionary_v5.33.tar.gz
 

It seems to behave with nucleic acids correctly, at least in my hands.

There is also a newer one (March 10, 2012).  Maybe you should try that first.

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/data/refmac_experimental/refmac_dictionary_v5.35.tar.gz


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:   wgsc...@ucsc.edu

On Mar 27, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Longfei Wang wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 I've received a bug report about coot. I think this is a good place to
 report.
 Here is the summary of the problem. If open a molecule and try to build a
 new nucleotide, Coot crashes. This happened for the version of Coot 3936,
 both in Linux and WinCoot. A labmate suspects that there are library issues
 with regards to PDB version between Coot and REFMAC. An additional issue:
 Protein residues with hydrogens present can be real space refined in Coot.
 However, nucleic acid residues with hydrogens present cannot be real space
 refined in Coot. Attempting to do this results in exploding hydrogens.
 
 
 Best
 Longfei
 
 -- 
 *Longfei Wang
 *
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Harvard Medical School
 250 Longwood Ave
 Boston, MA 02115


[COOT] Coot and stereo projector

2012-02-19 Thread William G. Scott
Howdie:

Has anyone had success using coot with a 3D stereo projector?  

If so, any recommendations?

Thanks.

Bill




William G. Scott

Contact info:
http://www.chem.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/


Re: [COOT] Coot Book of the Genesis

2012-02-09 Thread William G. Scott
Hi folks:

I think the best long-term solution for this is to get coot and all of its 
non-standard-linux
dependencies into the repositories of the most frequently used linux 
distribution systems.

If this isn't possible, then at least create our own repositories for these 
packages, so that
they are accessible to debian utilities (for Ubuntu Linux, standard Debian 
Linux, etc), and 
the other major package management systems.

(For OS X, we use the fink-based debian package management system in three ways:
1.  In its official capacity, to build coot and all of its dependencies from 
scratch
2.  I host (unofficial) repositories for 10.6 and 10.7, so users can install 
pre-compiled debian packages
3.  I use it to create automatic nightly builds of a stand-alone package
).

I am pretty sure Donnie Berkholtz did this for gentoo already.

I think at the very least we should aim to do this for ubuntu already.  Is 
anyone reading this a maintainer
for ubuntu and/or debian?

Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 

On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote:

 ...because the precompiled binary from the Coot site looks for some
 libraries it (and I) cannot find (see that January thread 'Help needed...'
 on the subject)
 and the suggestion there is to 'do it right and build from scratch'.
 
 But if you have another link to a RHEL binary I am happy to try again...
 
 Thx, BR
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Thommen [mailto:structures...@embl-heidelberg.de] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:17 AM
 To: COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Cc: b...@hofkristallamt.org
 Subject: Re: Coot Book of the Genesis
 
 ...and why not simply use the binary RHEL 5 version?  At least the CentOS 5
 binary distribution works fine on CentOS 6.
 
 Why making one's life harder than needed?
 
 Cheers
 
   frank
 
 Frank Thommen - Structures IT Management and Support - EMBL Heidelberg
 structures...@embl-heidelberg.de - +49 6221 387 8353


Re: [COOT] how to optimize this part in order to have the green blobs disappear by Coot

2012-01-26 Thread William G. Scott
I would be a bit more concerned with the apparent lack of fit of the model to 
the map.  It looks as if there is unoccupied side chain density, and possibly 
side chains that don't occupy density.  It is hard to tell from a snapshot, but 
if this is the case, make sure everything is in register first, then re-refine, 
having reset the temperature factors to something sensible, and then when you 
converge on something that fits and makes sense, re-assess the map.  Lots of 
green density sitting on your model might indicate problems with scaling the 
data or with the temperature factor refinement.

Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 

On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Dialing Pretty wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 Will you please take a loot on the coot sscreenshot and give me some 
 suggestions on how to further optimize in order to have the green blobs 
 disappear by Coot?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dialing


Re: [COOT] GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.

2012-01-26 Thread William G. Scott
On Jan 26, 2012, at 5:36 AM, Bernhard Lohkamp wrote:

 Hope this resolves the problem,
 
 B

Seems to fix it on OS X 

-- Bill


Re: [COOT] Coot 0.6.2 and X11

2011-12-09 Thread Prof. William G. Scott
Well, I just build a version for 10.6, and haven't had a chance to point anyone 
to its web location, so I am guessing you installed the one I compiled for 
10.7….

So please try this one and lemme know if it works please.

Bill

http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

phone:  +1-831-459-5367 (office)
  +1-831-459-5292 (lab)
fax:+1-831-4593139  (fax) 
email:wgsc...@ucsc.edu



On Dec 9, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Matthew J. Whitley wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Today I upgraded Coot from version 0.6.1 to 0.6.2 on my Mac (OS X 10.6.8).  
 The installation was successful, but now Coot won't run anymore.
 
 When I start the program, I get the following error:
 
 dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib
  Referenced from: /Library/Coot/bin/coot-real
  Reason: Incompatible library version: coot-real requires version 10.0.0 or 
 later, but libX11.6.dylib provides version 9.0.0
 /usr/local/bin/coot: line 7: 62920 Trace/BPT trap  
 /Library/Coot/bin/coot-real $@
 
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Matthew Whitley


Re: [COOT] Coot for OSX 10.6

2011-10-31 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Phil:

I haven't been able to compile coot since 11 September, due to a change in the 
code.

I've got a 10.6.8 version of that too, but nothing newer I am afraid.


Sorry.

Bill


On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Phil Evans wrote:

 As I understand it, Bill Scott now only builds Coot for OSX 10.7: is that 
 right? At least his recent stand-alone builds don't seem to work with 10.6
 
 Is there an up-to-date(ish) Coot build for 10.6? I hesitate to build it 
 myself and I dislike Fink
 
 Phil


Re: [COOT] key binding on OS X 10.7

2011-10-25 Thread William G. Scott
On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Paul Emsley wrote:

  I have switched from the COOT I compiled from fink to Bill's binary COOT, 
 the situation has not changed.

They are both compiled with fink. The only difference is the top-level 
directory is /LIbrary/Coot instead of /sw


Re: [COOT] Stereo on a Mac

2011-07-07 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Andrew:

I don't have the hardware to test it on, but as far as I am aware, it will do 
active stereo.  At least that is the intention.

Bill

PS:  I'm compiling various versions of 0.6.2.  Somehow I missed the fact that 
the stable release had come out two weeks ago.  Sorry.


On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Andrew T. Torelli wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
   The recent post about running coot on a powermac G5 has me a little 
 confused because I thought the only option for stereo on a Mac was to use a 
 Zalman monitor for passive stereo.  I'm clearly missing something.  Is it 
 true that active stereo with 120 Hz LCD monitors is not possible with a Mac?  
 I'm considering taking the plunge to switch over to Mac entirely, but one 
 source of hesitation is that I prefer active stereo and would like to move to 
 LCDs if possible.
   Assuming I'm still correct that 120 Hz LCD active stereo is not 
 compatible with Macs, is it also true that this is unlikely to change in the 
 foreseeable future (i.e. Apple or Nvidia don't see enough financial benefit 
 to correct the problems ergo there is little driving force)?
 
 Thank you for the enlightenment,
 -Andy Torelli
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mailing list for users of COOT Crystallographic Software 
 [mailto:COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Mark J van Raaij
 Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:53 AM
 To: COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: coot on powermac G5 running Tiger
 
 Hi Juergen,
 
 I have tried using fink before, but a precompiled binary would be easier...
 I think Snow Leopard is incompatible with the G5 (and with ppc in general).
 Leopard would work, I might try this if I can get an installation disk and 
 nobody has a binary compiled for 10.4 (Bill Scotts page does not have it 
 anymore for new versions of coot).
 There are some rumours that Leopard broke the stereo, but also that the 
 latest updates fix it again.
 
 Mark
 
 
 Mark J van Raaij
 Laboratorio M-4
 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
 Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
 c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco
 E-28049 Madrid, Spain
 tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
 http://www.cnb.csic.es/content/research/macromolecular/mvraaij
 
 
 
 
 On 2 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Bosch, Juergen wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 have you ever tried using fink ? You don't need to do much to compile it 
 yourself with the help of fink.
 Here's the link to fink (or better to Bill Scott's fink it yourself page)
 http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Getting_your_fink_installation_to_use_packages_that_I_have_pre-compiled
 
 You will need Apple's Xcode, which you can get after registration for free. 
 Once you have installed fink you really only type fink install [name of 
 program you want], hit a couple of times y (yes) or whatever default value 
 is requested.
 You have to do the usual edits in your .bashrc or .cshrc file to point X11 
 to your fink binary.
 You also have the option to download precompiled binaries, but not sure if 
 Bill keeps still 10.4 - you might want to upgrade to Snow Leopard.
 
 Jürgen
 
 On Jul 2, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Mark J van Raaij wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 My second computer in the office is a Powermac G5 with MaxOSX 10.4 equipped 
 with a stereo-capable CRT and Nuvision emitter/glasses. I would like to 
 install coot on this, pref. prebuilt because I am hopeless at compiling...
 The most recent build I could find is 0.5.2 ueno on Bill Scotts website - 
 anyone know of a more recent version compiled and compatible with our 
 system.
 would stereo work with a more recent version of coot?
 
 greetings,
 
 Mark
 
 ..
 Jürgen Bosch
 Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
 Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
 Baltimore, MD 21205
 Phone: +1-410-614-4742
 Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
 Fax:  +1-410-955-3655
 http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] Python problem

2011-05-04 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Phil, Paul, Ben, Bernhard et al:

Sorry to arrive 8 hours late to the party, but first my apologies to Phil.  I 
thought I had fixed this problem by excising from the coot wrapper script the 
path in /System/Library, i.e., 

export 
PYTHONPATH=/Library/Coot/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/Library/Coot/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0:/Library/Coot/share/coot/python:$PYTHONPATH

So my guess is you have $PYTHONPATH or else my fix somehow doesn't work.

The reason this is problematic is ultimately because coot is using python 2.7 
libraries (included).  (Old whine, new bottle.)

Anyway, it would be good to find which is the source of the problem.  I think I 
need to add to PYTHONPATH to keep phenix happy, but if the user has set 
$PYTHONPATH, then what is in the wrapper script becomes fragile.

Any feedback will help me make this better.

Thanks.

Bill

On May 4, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Phil Evans wrote:

 OK that worked thanks
 
 I'm not sure whether these files got copied over from my old machine - I 
 didn't do the copy myslef
 
 Phil
 
 On 4 May 2011, at 13:16, Paul Emsley wrote:
 
 On 04/05/11 13:11, Phil Evans wrote:
 Is that dangerous?
 
 Not really, python makes the pyc files again (I understand).
 
 If I move it I then get
 
 ImportError: Bad magic number in 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site.pyc
 
 after moving that I then get
 
 ImportError: Bad magic number in 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/os.pyc
 
 and so on I guess
 
 So I understand after a bit more googling.
 
 I should have recommended some sort of find:
 
 $ find 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6 -name 
 *.pyc -delete


Re: [COOT] Python problem

2011-05-04 Thread William G. Scott
I'm hosting nightly builds now, and none of the more recent versions should 
have this in the wrapper script.  Please let me know if somehow that isn't the 
case.

Bill


On May 4, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Phil Evans wrote:

 I did delete the *.pyc files in the system directories, and they have now 
 reappeared
 
 I've also edited the coot wrapper to remove the system directories as 
 suggested by Bill.
 
 All seems to work now
 
 thanks to everybody
 Phil
 
 On 4 May 2011, at 15:29, Ben Eisenbraun wrote:
 
 On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:16:29PM +0100, Paul Emsley wrote:
 On 04/05/11 13:11, Phil Evans wrote:
 Is that dangerous?
 
 Not really, python makes the pyc files again (I understand).
 
 Yes, but you're deleting compiled python objects from _system_ directories,
 and since normal users can't write to those directories, they will be
 recompiled and then thrown away every time python is run and those modules
 are imported.
 
 If I move it I then get
 
 ImportError: Bad magic number in 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site.pyc
 
 after moving that I then get
 
 ImportError: Bad magic number in 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/os.pyc
 
 and so on I guess
 
 The problem is probably the PYTHONPATH setting in the coot wrapper script.
 If you're using a recent Fink/Bill Scott build of Coot, then it is using
 Python 2.7, and putting the 2.5 and 2.6 directories in the PYTHONPATH
 causes the interpreter to barf on start up.
 
 There was a discussion about this on the CCP4bb a couple months ago:
 
 https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A1=ind1103L=CCP4BB#25
 
 -ben
 
 --
 | Ben Eisenbraun
 | SBGrid Consortium  | http://sbgrid.org   |
 | Harvard Medical School | http://hms.harvard.edu  |


Re: [COOT] New Coot plugin for RNA building

2011-03-31 Thread William G. Scott
Nice.  Seems to work fine in the OS X version as well... in my 60 seconds of 
testing.

Bill



On Mar 31, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Kevin Keating wrote:

I've just released a new Coot plugin to help with building RNA structure, 
 so I wanted to make a quick announcement to the mailing list for any 
 interested RNA crystallographers.  The plugin, named RCrane, is free for use 
 and can be downloaded from http://www.pylelab.org/software/index.html#rcrane. 
  There are also several screenshots on that site for anybody who's curious.
RCrane helps with placing phosphates and bases into electron density, and 
 then automatically determines coordinates for the remainder of the backbone.  
 It's designed for use in maps of up to ~4 A resolution, and requires a very 
 recent nightly build of Coot (downloadable from 
 http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/devel/build-info.html).  The plugin has been 
 tested under Windows and Linux.  It should work under OS X if you have a 
 recent enough build of Coot, although I haven't done any testing there yet.
For anybody who tries out the plugin: feel free to send me any bug reports 
 or suggestions and I'll try to incorporate them into future versions.
 
Thanks,
Kevin


[COOT] Stand-Alone Coot -automated builds for OS X 10.6.X 64-bit

2011-03-10 Thread William G. Scott
I'm attempting to generate automated builds of coot pre-releases for OS X 
10.6.X users.  These are 64-bit.  If all works well, there should be a new one 
every day (assuming a new source tarball is available).

http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot 

Please let me know if it is problematic.

Thanks.

-- Bill Scott





[COOT] coot on OS X 10.4

2010-12-16 Thread William G. Scott
Has anyone managed to compile a recent version of coot on OS X 10.4.X via fink?

Thanks.

Bill Scott


Re: [COOT] Installation problems: Coot for OS X - from CCP4 / Fink

2010-12-01 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Antony:

First, allow me to apologize for this.  I was hoping this would help make 
everything seamless.  

Mark Brooks suggested updating X11 from http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki 
 .  Although this might help with such a problem on 10.5 with ppc., in this 
case I believe it shouldn't help, because on 10.6, this X11 doesn't get 
installed in the usual location, but instead somewhere in /opt  I think.  In 
any case, I don't use it on 10.6, so coot won't have been compiled using it, so 
installing it should neither help nor hurt.  Coot simply won't see it.

If coot does see it, it suggests you have the environment variable  
$DYLID_LIBRARY_PATH set.  (Doing so is a very bad idea.)

The short answer is I really don't know what is causing this problem.

I have two suggestions:

(1) Try building coot on your machine and see if it produces a working version. 
 It could be the old iMac I build these things on has some problem with its 
configuration or something.  

(2) Try installing my new pre-compiled stand-alone version from here:
http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot#Version_0.6.2-pre-1-3250

Please let me know what happens.  After term ends (this week) I will have 
more time to devote to this.

Bill


PS:  Also, if you or anyone has run into a problem with coot on OS X, please 
put my email address in the To line and then I'll be sure to see it right 
away...


On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:41 AM, Antony Oliver wrote:

 Dear all, 
 
 I am trying to install the latest version of Coot on OS X.  I have tried 
 downloading the installer from CCP4, using Bill Scott's Fink pre-compiled 
 binaries, and also using Fink to compile from source.  Unfortunately every 
 time I try to run Coot I get the same error...
 
 ---
 Wed Dec  1 10:37:24  coot-real[17558] Error: unknown error code: invalid 
 pixel format
 Wed Dec  1 10:37:24  coot-real[17558] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a 
 breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
 The program 'coot-real' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'GLXBadContext'.
  (Details: serial 288 error_code 147 request_code 0 minor_code 3)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 ---
 
 Presumably there is a problem somewhere with one of the graphic library 
 dependancies?
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Tony.
 
 = fink package is 0.6.2-pre-1-250 in the unstable tree of fink.
 = running OS X version 10.6.5 
 
 
 ---
 Dr Antony W Oliver
 Senior Research Fellow
 CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group
 Genome Damage and Stability Centre
 Science Park Road
 University of Sussex
 Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9RQ
 
 email: antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk
 tel (office): +44 (0)1273 678349
 tel (lab): +44 (0)1273 677512


[COOT] Stand-Alone Coot - 0.6.2 pre-release svn rev. 3072 OS X 10.6 64-bit, phenix-compliant

2010-08-02 Thread William G. Scott
Sorry I haven't done this until now.  Been distracted by the struggle for 
survival.

http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot#Version_0.6.2-pre-1-3072



Re: [COOT] PyGTK in standalone OS X builds

2010-05-14 Thread William G. Scott
Check /usr/local/xtal/coot64/bin/coot

to see if I set $PYTHONPATH right.

It should have /usr/local/xtal/coot64/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0



Nathaniel Echols wrote:
 When I use the 0.6.1 package from Bill's web site, I get this error when I
 try to start the Python scripting GUI:

 COOT_PYTHON_DIR was defined to be /usr/local/xtal/coot64/share/coot/python
   but no PyGtk and hence no coot_gui.

 Not sure what to do about this, because it appears to have the module
 installed:

 nat:~  ls /usr/local/xtal/coot64/lib/python2.6/site-packages/
 README  cairo  gtk-2.0  numpy  numpy-1.3.0-py2.6.egg-info  pygtk.pth
  pygtk.py  pygtk.pyo

 thanks,
 Nat



Re: [COOT] Problem reloading Coot.

2010-05-04 Thread William G. Scott
Did you  issue

source /sw64/bin/init.sh

(or init.csh if you are a tcsh user)

first?

This sets $PATH and some other needed environment variables.


On May 4, 2010, at 6:01 AM, David Lisgarten wrote:

 Dear Coot,
 I recently installed Coot version (0.6.1 64 intel) on a 
 iMac 10.6. using Fink , 64 bit (Fink installed via bootstrap).
 
 I used the command sudo apt-get install coot and everthing seemed fine. On 
 entering command coot, software loaded successfuly. However after I logged 
 out and then logged in I couldn't re-load Coot.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David.


Re: [COOT] Ligands

2010-03-03 Thread William G. Scott
If you can define a SMILES string for your ligand, you can get coot to
build the ligand with the press of a button in a fraction of a second.

If the SMILES syntax is a PITA, use this:
http://www.molinspiration.com/cgi-bin/properties

If you need more options, phenix.elbow also permits you to use a SMILES
string input.

Dean Derbyshire wrote:
 Perhaps (most likely in fact) this has been asked and addressed in the
 past:
 is there (or will there be) a way in COOT to 'build' ligands from scratch?

 Currently I go through a long winded route of Sketcher... importing and
 pulling
 the coords around to fit electron density... then finally idealising the
 geometry.

 What do other people do?

 Thanks in advance

 Dean



Re: [COOT] [ccp4bb] coot and probe clash

2010-02-08 Thread William G. Scott
On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Nathaniel Echols wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, William G. Scott wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu
 wrote:
 
 This is available to install as a binary from here:
 
 http://molprobity.biochem.duke.edu/get_molprobity.php
 
 
 Although probe and MolProbity3 are said to be free and open source
 software distributed under a BSD-style license, I can't find the source
 code, so I can't make coot depend on it within fink.
 
 
 http://kinemage.biochem.duke.edu/software/probe.php
 
 and Reduce (also required for Coot, I think) is here:
 http://kinemage.biochem.duke.edu/software/reduce.php
 
 -Nat

OK, I have added both now to fink cvs (unstable branch).  Feedback appreciated.


Re: [COOT] Coot 0.52 on OSX not showing molecule

2010-01-20 Thread William G. Scott
 Any ideas?

 -Sam


Try something more recent.


Re: [COOT] Coot dependency problem? Power PC G4

2010-01-17 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Richard:

It looks like I neglected to add this as a dependency.

Please try installing libcurl4-shlibs, and hopefully that will solve the 
problem.

If not, please let me know as soon as possible.

Bill


On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Richard Kingston wrote:

 
 Hello Bill
 
 After updating to the latest version of your coot binary distribution 
 (coot-0.6.1-pre-1-1), I'm getting the following error on a Power PC G4, when 
 I try and run it. 
 
 dyld: Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libcurl.4.dylib
  Referenced from: /sw/bin/coot-real
  Reason: Incompatible library version: coot-real requires version 6.0.0 or 
 later, but libcurl.4.dylib provides version 5.0.0
 /sw/bin/coot: line 5:   342 Trace/BPT trap  /sw/bin/coot-real $@
 
 The previous iteration ( coot-0.6.0-1) was working fine (after rebuilding and 
 reinstalling gmp, as per usual).
 
 Anyway, maybe you have time to look into it. Or maybe there's something 
 peculiar about my local configuration. 
 
 Regardless, I  really appreciate the time you've spent maintaining and 
 distributing scientific software to the Mac community. This has been 
 enormously helpful to may of us.
 
 Best,
 
 Richard
 
 Richard Kingston, PhD.
 School of Biological Sciences
 The University of Auckland
 New Zealand
 
 website: http://persephone.sbs.auckland.ac.nz/richard/lab/
 
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] SGI dials and coot?

2010-01-11 Thread William G. Scott
On Jan 11, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Andreas Förster wrote:

 Every time I'd ask a question

You really ought to update.  0.1 is a bit long in the beak.


[COOT] OS X /fink coot update problems

2010-01-09 Thread William G. Scott
Yo:

Several people wrote to me in the last couple of days about different problems 
with respect to the latest coot update in fink. This all happened at the 
beginning of term so I haven't really had enough time to deal with this 
systematically.

Briefly, I put coot 0.6 is in the stable and unstable branch of fink sometime 
around the Unorthodox Holiday.  Subsequently I updated two dependency packages 
in the unstable branch of fink:  guile18-gtk and clipper, and then updated to 
one of the 0.6.1 pre-releases in unstable (revision-2678). I don't want to 
touch what is in stable until I know it is in fact stable.  Any or all of 
these could have created problems (although I tested these on a variety of 
machines and didn't notice anything).

If you run the command

% fink list -i coot clipper guile18-gtk

you should see something like this:

Information about 8154 packages read in 1 seconds.
 i   clipper-shlibs   1:2.1-14   Object-oriented 
crystallographic libraries
 i   coot 0.6.1-pre-1-1  Crystallographic molecular 
graphics
 i   coot-shlibs  0.6.1-pre-1-1  Crystallographic molecular 
graphics
 i   guile18-gtk  2.1-2  Glue code to link gtk to guile
 i   guile18-gtk-shlibs   2.1-2  Glue code to link gtk to guile

If you have earlier versions, please update.

I also recommend

(a) having the most recent version of Xcode (the apple compilers, etc) 
compatible with your OS
(b) Apple's official X11 distribution if you are on 10.6 or plan to update to 
10.6.
(c) if you have a 64-bit capable machine, use the 64-bit fink, ccp4, etc. as 
this is the future

If I haven't gotten back to you, email me again please, and include every 
relevant detail (version of OS X, fink version, Xcode version, X11 version, 
output of above command, etc.) and I will do my best to try to deduce what 
might be problematic.  Meanwhile, please accept my apologies.

Bill


Re: [COOT] coot 0.6.1-pre update - osx 10.6 - problem with mtz and map files

2010-01-08 Thread William G. Scott
Are you using the 32-bit or 64-bit coot?  I have to confess only having checked 
the 64-bit version (which worked ok in my hands).

On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Jan Abendroth wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am trying to update coot on osx 10.6 from a 0.6-pre version to the current 
 fink version (0.6.1-pre). Doing the usual fink spiel (fink selfupdate, fink 
 index ...) I ran into some issues during 'fink update-all': a few packages 
 that are dbus and dbus-dependent would not install. All the rest of the core 
 packages could be installed manually.
 
 Coot now would install just fine (fink install coot) after I removed the old 
 installation (fink remove coot). 
 
 Now coot starts up fine as 0.6.1, coordinates can be read, analyzed and 
 modified. However, I cannot read in maps from mtz files, see message from the 
 xterminal below. Coot actually totally freezes in this process. Similarly, 
 ccp4 maps cannot be read in either due to a issue with space groups.
 
 Any ideas would be highly welcome
 
 Jan
 
 reading in mtz file
 ...
 initalize graphics molecules...done.
 (handle-read-draw-molecule-with-recentre 
 204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21-coot-Ab31.pdb 1)
 Reading coordinate file: 
 204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21-coot-Ab31.pdb
 PDB file 204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21-coot-Ab31.pdb has been 
 read.
 Spacegroup: I 21 3
 Cell: 135.38 135.38 135.38 90 90 90
 INFO:: Found 1 models
   Model 1 had 0 links
 Symmetry available for this molecule
 INFO:: NCS chain comparison 170/172
  INFO:: fill_ghost_info Constructed 1 ghosts
  Ghost 0 name: NCS found from matching Chain B onto Chain A
 Molecule 0 read successfully
 coot-real(86853,0xa01cd500) malloc: *** error for object 0x2650a00: pointer 
 being freed was not allocated
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 
 [... same message many times over ...]
 
 Spacegroup_registry: ASU warning, LGhash=0x
 Spacegroup_registry: ASU fail
 INFO:: not an mtz file: 204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21.mtz
 
 reading in a ccp4 style map:
 saved directory name: /Users/jan/deCODE/ssgcid/AnphA.01382.a/ccp4/
 CCP4 map filename: 
 /Users/jan/deCODE/ssgcid/AnphA.01382.a/ccp4/204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21_2Fofc.map
 INFO:: map file type was determined to be CCP4 type
 allocating space in read_ccp4_map
 attempting to read CCP4 map: 
 /Users/jan/deCODE/ssgcid/AnphA.01382.a/ccp4/204964c6_2009-10-26_als503_i213_xds_refmac21_2Fofc.map
 Spgr_cacheobj: symops fail
 
 --
 Jan Abendroth
 Emerald BioStructures
 Seattle / Bainbridge Island WA, USA
 home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com
 work: JAbendroth_at_embios.com
 http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Jan Abendroth
 Emerald BioStructures
 Seattle / Bainbridge Island WA, USA
 home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com
 work: JAbendroth_at_embios.com
 http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] Scripting missing in CCP4 distribution of COOT v0.6.0 CCP4 (OS X 10.4+ universal dmg installer)

2010-01-05 Thread William G. Scott
No problem.  The hope is that with fink, anyone can compile and install coot 
without drama on OS X ppc or intel, 10.6, 10.5, 10.4 (there is no 10.6 ppc).


On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Huw Jenkins wrote:

 
 On 5 Jan 2010, at 13:57, William G. Scott wrote:
 
 If you use what is in fink, it will build coot for whatever version of os x 
 you currently have.
 
 
 Apologies I was being stupid, I hadn't realised there were still fink 
 packages for 10.5/10.4 and it was just the binaries that are 10.6 only.
 
 I'll give that a go.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Huw
 --
 Dr Huw Jenkins
 Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
 Room 8.53 Garstang Building
 University of Leeds
 Leeds, LS2 9JT
 +44(0)113 343 4269
 h.t.jenk...@leeds.ac.uk
 
 
 
 


Re: [COOT] Scripting missing in CCP4 distribution of COOT v0.6.0 CCP4 (OS X 10.4+ universal dmg installer)

2010-01-04 Thread William G. Scott
See if this works:

http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot#Stable_Release_for_Intel:__coot-0.6_for_64-bit_Intel_10.6


On Jan 4, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Huw Jenkins wrote:

 On 4 Jan 2010, at 22:21, Nathaniel Echols wrote:
 
 The package distributed by CCP4 was not compiled with support for either 
 Scheme or Python.  I'm pretty sure this isn't something you can patch, so 
 you'll need to use one of Bill's tarballs or the Fink distribution.
 
 Cheers for the info. I was confused as to why all the Scheme scripts were 
 present in /Applications/coot.app/Contents/coot/share/coot/scheme/ but not 
 being read on start-up.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 
 Huw
 --
 Dr Huw Jenkins
 Astbury Centre
 University of Leeds


Re: [COOT] 120hz LCDs and coot stereo

2009-12-17 Thread William G. Scott
Just get a $300 Zalman LCD monitor and use coot with that.  No special
hardware required and it is OS independent.  I'm using it also as my
primary monitor as I type this.



Michael J Miley wrote:
 I have a linux workstation with a nvidia quadro graphics card and
 matching emitter/lcd glasses setup from realD. It is very hard to find
 CRTs that are able to support the high refresh rates needed for headache
 free 3D viewing. The old SGI one I have is terrible, as it flickers bad
 in 3d mode.

 My question is can i use one of these new 120hz LCD monitors with the
 above setup for coot. Basically just switch out the crt for the LCD. Has
 anyone tried this?

 I am aware that these monitors with a non-quadro nvidia card plus the
 nvidia emitter/glasses setup will not work with coot. But i think the
 reason is that the drivers for these non-quadro cards do not support
 true quad buffered stereo.


 --
 
 Michael J Miley, PhD
 Research Assistant Professor
 Director, Biomolecular X-Ray Crystallography Facility
 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 Dept of Pharmacology, CB# 7365
 Medical School Building B, Room 124
 mjmi...@email.unc.edu
 Office: 919-843-7174
 Cell: 919-451-3593
 



Re: [COOT] fink coot : unstable branch

2009-11-05 Thread William G. Scott

On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Bryan W. Lepore wrote:


http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Installing_Coot_on_OS_X
Be sure to use the so-called unstable branch of fink to get the  
latest pre-releases of coot


do i read this correctly : it means ONLY pre-releases, right?  and  
then :


`fink -y install coot` [...] whenever you require the latest  
version. 


means precisely that - the latest version, NOT a pre-release, so  
that the unstable branch does not need activation.


-bryan



This is why I gave up my first career as an international peace  
mediator in the Middle East.  I don't think I consciously  
distinguished between pre-release and release when I wrote this.


In any case, the latest coot will always be in unstable.

For a long time, the version of coot in stable was 0.5.2, but I had to  
make so many changes to get coot to compile as 64-bit on 10.6 64-bit  
fink but compile as 32-bit on 32-bit fink on 10.6, I didn't want to go  
back to 0.5.2, so I put the same pre-release into stable as a  
placeholder that (hopefully) compiles on every permutation of fink and  
Apple hardware and operating system.  When version 0.6 comes out, I  
will keep that in stable and then again put pre-releases in unstable.


Re: [COOT] Coot 2396 troubles

2009-10-06 Thread William G. Scott


This happened on a new snow leopard install. It looks like that  
Apple decided not to include any .la with their X11 SDK.


Yes, unfortunately the only way to deal with this is to delete all the  
*.la files in /sw that make reference to the nonexistent libs or other  
*.la files.


I found the easiest way is to use the z-shell's recursive globbing  
property:


% sudo /bin/zsh

# cd /sw/lib

# rm -f  **/*.la

# exit



On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Dima Chirgadze wrote:


Dear Bill,

I am sorry to trouble you again. The new version of coot (2396)  
failed to install.


-- snip --grep: /usr/X11/lib/libXext.la: No such file or directory
sed: /usr/X11/lib/libXext.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/X11/lib/libXext.la' is not a valid libtool  
archive

make[1]: *** [libcoot-surface.la] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.1.XhdXJD failed, exit code 2
Removing runtime build-lock...
Removing build-lock package...
/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2396-1
(Reading database ... 70299 files and directories currently  
installed.)

Removing fink-buildlock-coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2396-1 ...
Failed: phase compiling: coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2396-1 failed
-- snip --

This happened on a new snow leopard install. It looks like that  
Apple decided not to include any .la with their X11 SDK.


Is there anyway to fix this?

Thanks again,

Regards,

Dima


[COOT] I wish I could lose weight like this (OS X 10.6)

2009-09-20 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Folks:

On OS X, 10.6, I have been playing around with hfsCompression.  I can  
decrease the size of /sw/share/coot significantly:


% cd /sw/share/
% du -h -d 0 coot
180Mcoot

% sudo mv coot coot.1
% sudo ditto --hfsCompress coot.1 coot
% du -h -d 0 coot
 31Mcoot

This can also be done with the libraries and binaries, and even the  
whole of /sw.


It squeezed phenix down to 319 MB from 1.1 GB.  CCP4's new footprint  
is 562 MB, instead of 1.5 GB.


hfscompressing Xray data results in a factor of two space-saving.

The files still look the same from the point of view of the operating  
system.  You can in fact only see the compression using commands  
like du or df.


More here:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20090902223042255

Bill


Re: [COOT] call for beta testers

2009-09-15 Thread William G. Scott

On Sep 14, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Paul Emsley wrote:


So the last couple of days have been a bit frustrating for me, but a
good deal of credit goes to Bill of course.



This can be read in at least two ways.


As anyone who knows me could tell you, the only thing I really can  
take credit for is constant, relentless complaining.


Re: [COOT] buggy coot 0.6-pre-1 r2264 on OS X 10.4.11

2009-09-14 Thread William G. Scott

Paul just pulled off a heroic fix (rev 2310).  Please try that.




On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:40 AM, William G. Scott wrote:


Dear Christian:

I'm getting it now too.  I forgot to cc you.  I get it on 32-bit but  
not 64-bit SL.  I've sent the crash report to Paul .


Check to see if you have anything in

~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

that has coot in the title and a recent date.

Bill



On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Benda, Christian wrote:


Dear Bill,

Thanks for your quick reply!  I installed the new revision but it  
doesn't seem to make a difference (to my problems). I guess you're  
right and it's because I am still running 10.4 - think it's time to  
upgrade to 10.6, finally!


Again, many thanks and best regards,

Christian


Am 08.09.09 16:14 schrieb William G. Scott unter wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu 
:


Hi Christian:

I just committed coot 0.6-pre-1-revision-2283 to fink cvs.  It  
fixes a

bug on 64-bit where the menu would freeze when superposition is
invoked.  I suppose there is a 0.001 chance that it fixes the
other problem too.  I have no way to test on 10.5 intel (I still have
10.6) and haven't had direct access to 10.4 for a long time. This
could be a problem with coot or with one of many of its ca. 230
dependencies.

From what I have read, you can upgrade directly to SL (US $30, UK
£25), despite the propaganda on the box. I have ccp4 and coot and the
other crystallographic fink things running all in 64-bit now. I'm
hoping these will now pass the 70S ribosome test.

I hope this works in the meantime.

Bill



On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Christian Benda wrote:


Dear all,

we have updated coot to 0.6-pre-1 revision 2264 using fink on our
Macs running 10.4.11
to be able to use zalman stereo.

Unfortunately it seems like this coot or the combination is not
working correctly. So far,
there are two main issues:

1. coot freezes and closes down after selecting e.g. the preferences
menue

2. coot writes an empty 0-coot.state.scm file no matter what's
loaded into coot.

Any hints to what we can do? We really need the stereo and therefore
revision 2225 or
higher

Many thanks in advance

Christian

Dr. Christian Benda
Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry
Structural Cell Biology

Am Klopferspitz 18
D-82152 Martinsried
Germany

Phone: +49 (0)89 85 78 23 37
Fax: +49 (0)89 85 78 22 19
Email: be...@biochem.mpg.de







Re: [COOT] buggy coot 0.6-pre-1 r2264 on OS X 10.4.11

2009-09-11 Thread William G. Scott

On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Benda, Christian wrote:


hink it's time to upgrade to 10.6, finally!


10.6.1  now.

:D


Re: [COOT] buggy coot 0.6-pre-1 r2264 on OS X 10.4.11

2009-09-09 Thread William G. Scott
I'm going to make a wild guess and suggest it is a python version  
mismatch.


If you open the python scripting window and type in

help()

what do you see in the console window?

I get this:


BL INFO:: command input is:  help()

Welcome to Python 2.6!  This is the online help utility.




On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Engin Ozkan wrote:


Hi everybody,

Using the revision 2283 on 10.5, I am seeing this whenever I am  
closing the application:


/sw/bin/coot: line 5: 19785 Segmentation fault  /sw/bin/coot- 
real $@


Yep, coot shuts down with a segmentation fault. I haven't tested  
most functionality and it has not affected my use of coot yet, but I  
assumed it might help to report it. This seems to be the same bug  
observed by Christian on a 10.4 machine, because I get the similar  
Preferences crash. Empty 0-coot.state.scm is also probably due to  
the crash during exiting.


Engin

On 9/8/09 7:14 AM, William G. Scott wrote:

Hi Christian:

I just committed coot 0.6-pre-1-revision-2283 to fink cvs.  It  
fixes a bug on 64-bit where the menu would freeze when  
superposition is invoked.  I suppose there is a 0.001 chance  
that it fixes the other problem too.  I have no way to test on 10.5  
intel (I still have 10.6) and haven't had direct access to 10.4 for  
a long time. This could be a problem with coot or with one of many  
of its ca. 230 dependencies.


From what I have read, you can upgrade directly to SL (US $30, UK  
£25), despite the propaganda on the box. I have ccp4 and coot and  
the other crystallographic fink things running all in 64-bit now.  
I'm hoping these will now pass the 70S ribosome test.


I hope this works in the meantime.

Bill



On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Christian Benda wrote:


Dear all,

we have updated coot to 0.6-pre-1 revision 2264 using fink on our  
Macs running 10.4.11

to be able to use zalman stereo.

Unfortunately it seems like this coot or the combination is not  
working correctly. So far,

there are two main issues:

1. coot freezes and closes down after selecting e.g. the  
preferences menue


2. coot writes an empty 0-coot.state.scm file no matter what's  
loaded into coot.


Any hints to what we can do? We really need the stereo and  
therefore revision 2225 or

higher

Many thanks in advance

Christian

Dr. Christian Benda
Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry
Structural Cell Biology

Am Klopferspitz 18
D-82152 Martinsried
Germany

Phone: +49 (0)89 85 78 23 37
Fax: +49 (0)89 85 78 22 19
Email: be...@biochem.mpg.de



--
Engin Özkan
Post-doctoral Scholar
Laboratory of K. Christopher Garcia
Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Dept of Molecular and Cellular Physiology
279 Campus Drive, Beckman Center B173
Stanford School of Medicine
Stanford, CA 94305
ph: (650)-498-7111


Re: [COOT] buggy coot 0.6-pre-1 r2264 on OS X 10.4.11

2009-09-08 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Christian:

I just committed coot 0.6-pre-1-revision-2283 to fink cvs.  It fixes a  
bug on 64-bit where the menu would freeze when superposition is  
invoked.  I suppose there is a 0.001 chance that it fixes the  
other problem too.  I have no way to test on 10.5 intel (I still have  
10.6) and haven't had direct access to 10.4 for a long time. This  
could be a problem with coot or with one of many of its ca. 230  
dependencies.


From what I have read, you can upgrade directly to SL (US $30, UK  
£25), despite the propaganda on the box. I have ccp4 and coot and the  
other crystallographic fink things running all in 64-bit now. I'm  
hoping these will now pass the 70S ribosome test.


I hope this works in the meantime.

Bill



On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Christian Benda wrote:


Dear all,

we have updated coot to 0.6-pre-1 revision 2264 using fink on our  
Macs running 10.4.11

to be able to use zalman stereo.

Unfortunately it seems like this coot or the combination is not  
working correctly. So far,

there are two main issues:

1. coot freezes and closes down after selecting e.g. the preferences  
menue


2. coot writes an empty 0-coot.state.scm file no matter what's  
loaded into coot.


Any hints to what we can do? We really need the stereo and therefore  
revision 2225 or

higher

Many thanks in advance

Christian

Dr. Christian Benda
Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry
Structural Cell Biology

Am Klopferspitz 18
D-82152 Martinsried
Germany

Phone: +49 (0)89 85 78 23 37
Fax: +49 (0)89 85 78 22 19
Email: be...@biochem.mpg.de


Re: [COOT] Coot osx 10.6 problem

2009-09-08 Thread William G. Scott

The good news is I can reproduce your error:

checking for GtkGLExt - version = 1.0.0... no
*** Could not run GtkGLExt test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file  
config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means GtkGLExt is  
incorrectly installed.

### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.2.JleDIx failed, exit code 1
Removing runtime build-lock...
Removing build-lock package...
/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2283-1
(Reading database ... 201033 files and directories currently installed.)


I'm coming to the conclusion that upgrading 32-bit fink to SL on a 64- 
bit capable machine is more trouble than a fresh install of 64-bit fink.


I'll try to get this sorted out.  Sorry.

Bill




On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Dima Chirgadze wrote:


Dear Bill,

I am having problems installing latest version of coot under snow  
leopard.


1) I have installed fink 0.29.9 (32-bit) via bootstrapping on a Snow  
Leopard machine.


2) changed the /sw/etc/fink.conf according to your website and  
updated fink


3) changed /sw/etc/apt/sources.list to include
deb  http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.6_32bit stable main crypto
deb  http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.6_32bit unstable main crypto
deb  http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.6_32bit local main

4) when I do: fink -b install coot, it installs/updates about 100  
packages and then I get the following error:

--snip--
checking for pkg-config... (cached) /sw/bin/pkg-config
checking for GtkGLExt - version = 1.0.0... no
*** Could not run GtkGLExt test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file  
config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means GtkGLExt is  
incorrectly installed.

### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.2.MhYZKK failed, exit code 1
Removing runtime build-lock...
Removing build-lock package...
/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2265-1
(Reading database ... 25946 files and directories currently  
installed.)

Removing fink-buildlock-coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2265-1 ...
Failed: phase compiling: coot-0.6-pre-1-revision-2265-1 failed
--snip--

I've searched the lists but couldn't get it working

I tried re-installing gtkglext1 and gtkglext1-shlibs. The  
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH and/or $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH both are unset. I still  
cannot install. Could you please help me to resolve it?


Thank you very much in advance,

Regards,

Dima


Dimitri (aka Dima) Chirgadze, PhD
Senior Research Associate
Department of Biochemistry
University of Cambridge
Cambridge, CB2 1GA
UK
Tel: +44 1223 766029
Fax: +44 1223 766082



[COOT] Need help with coot wiki

2009-08-20 Thread William G. Scott
I just started a stereographics section on the coot wiki, but need  
help, specifically with the hardware stereo part from someone with  
firsthand experience, but feel free to improve all of it:


http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Coot#Stereographic_Display


Re: [COOT] MacOS and Zalman

2009-08-19 Thread William G. Scott

On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:


Dear Bill,

I am probably one of the many people out here who asked you a  
question concerning the Zalman 3D monitor.


We got one yesterday and I upgraded coot to coot 0.6-pre-1 (revision  
2215) running on a Quad-Core Intel with a NVidia Qudro FX 5600 (=S  
10.5.7). I use the DVI cable, mirroring off and the Zalman is the  
second monitor.


Running coot at the highest resolution 1680x1050 and 60 Hz (more is  
not possible according to the monitor settings) I have the feeling  
that I close but not really there. In coot, I can see two images,  
the 3D effect is there but not perfect yet and without the polarize  
glasses the screen flickers. However, the situation reminds me of  
using Crystal eyes and a refresh rate, which is too small meaning I  
am almost there.


I think you can increase the stereo angle.  I need to appeal to Paul  
or Bernhard for the appropriate command (hence the cc to the cootbb).


Does it work ok with pymol?




Do you know what I am doing wrong?


No.  Quite possibly nothing.  It is also possible you are seeing the  
exact same thing as I am, but because of my small brain and limited  
cranial capacity, I get a different visual effect.


BTW, I still use bash not zsh. Therefore I have not used your  
scripts yet.


You can run any shell script (including zsh functions) by making it  
executable and run it in the usual way from one of the other shells.




Many thanks in advance

Lutz



Re: [COOT] MacOS and Zalman

2009-08-19 Thread William G. Scott

On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Paul Fyfe wrote:


  (set-hardware-stereo-angle-factor 1.3)



This is I think the command I was after.

Thanks.


Re: [COOT] MacOS and Zalman

2009-08-19 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Lutz:


On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:


Hi Bill,

thanks! But now comes the ignorant part from my site :-)

As a non-native speaker, I do understand AFAIK (as far as I know?),  
but what do you mean by fwiw? - sorry


Hence the wtf utility:

% fink list wtf
Information about 9261 packages read in 3 seconds.
 i   wtf  20080626-1 Translates common  
Internet acronyms


% wtf fwiw
FWIW: for what it's worth

% wtf afaik
AFAIK: as far as I know


% wtf wtf
WTF: {what,when,where,who,why} the f---




Furthermore, I use coot and Macs and I appreciated more than once  
all your input. Since you did such a wonderful job, I have never  
bothered much with fiddling around with coot. I just took what you  
developed. Therefore, I have to ask the stupid and ignorant  
question: how do I issue a scheme??


You can issue commands in either the scheme scripting language or the  
python scripting language.


To issue a scheme command, just do the following:

1.  Start coot and go to the Calculate menu item.

2.  In the pull-down, the second-to-last entry is Scripting   Go  
to that and select the Scheme option.


3.  Paste in the command (zalman-stereo-mode) including the  
parentheses into the top window where it says Command:


4.  Hit the return key and you should now be getting a double image.



In other words, could you please direct me to your scheme or send it  
to me? I hope that the fact that I still stick to bash and have not  
changed to zsh makes no problem. Again, blame my ignorance!


Don't worry, it has nothing to do with what shell you choose.  It will  
work the same whether you use bash/zsh/tcsh.




Sorry for my ignorance


Never apologize for asking questions.  If you do a mail search, you  
will see that I am the ignorance king.


But if you are feeling adventurous, right-click on the second line of  
the menu bar in the blank area next to where it says Display  
Manager.  Select Add a user-defined button  and make yourself a  
Zalman Stereo button, and then feel smug about what a power user you  
now are.


I think you will need the python version of the command, instead of  
the scheme version, which is  zalman_stereo_mode()


Note the underscores and different placement of the parentheses.

There is even an appropriate icon in row five, column eight, you can  
select when prompted for an icon.





Lutz

Am 19.08.2009 um 20:41 schrieb William G. Scott:


Hi Lutz:

Yeah, that is definitely the problem.  That kind of hardware  
stereo is for a CRT and the special video card it needs.


Fortunately, we don't need any of that.

Try issuing the scheme command

(zalman-stereo-mode)

AFAIK, it is not yet implemented as a menu item (but you can make  
one, which is what I did).


I am also using the DVI cable and adaptor, fwiw.

Bill


William G. Scott

contact info:  http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott



On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:


Hi Bill,

yes I have a first-generation airbook as well. I started coot,  
moved the coot window to the Zalman monitor and used draw,  
stereo, hardware stereo to activate it, but as I said coot  
told me that stereo was not possible. Should I start to force  
coot to start on the Zalman? If so, do I have to make the Zalman  
the primary screen?


Cheers

Lutz

Am 19.08.2009 um 19:01 schrieb William Scott:


Hi Lutz:

Yes, mine is working with a first-generation airbook.  I didn't  
do anything special.  How are you activating stereo on coot (what  
command)?


Bill


William G. Scott

Contact info:
http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/




On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:


Dear Bill,

many thanks!

Well with pymol the same - near there but only nearly.

I did two more thing so far. Installed the newest coot release  
on my airbook and simply connected the Zalman (VGA connector).  
Here, coot tells me that stereo can not be enabled  and  
nothing happend. According to your email to Jürgen, you got it  
to work on your Airbook. Or am I missing something?


Furthermore, I checked the quadro compatibility list of Zalman -  
it ends with the FX 5500, the 5600 is not included. Is that a  
possible explanation. We have another Mac with the FX 4500  
installed. According to the list it should be supported (at  
least on XP).


But most of all - I am really interested to learn about the  
stereo angle :-)


Cheers

Lutz

Am 19.08.2009 um 16:36 schrieb William G. Scott:



On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:


Dear Bill,

I am probably one of the many people out here who asked you a  
question concerning the Zalman 3D monitor.


We got one yesterday and I upgraded coot to coot 0.6-pre-1  
(revision 2215) running on a Quad-Core Intel with a NVidia  
Qudro FX 5600 (=S 10.5.7). I use the DVI cable, mirroring off  
and the Zalman is the second monitor.


Running coot at the highest resolution 1680x1050 and 60 Hz  
(more is not possible according

Re: [COOT] Zalman Coot

2009-08-05 Thread William G. Scott

Dear Jürgen:

I've been using the DVI cable provided and full resolution (I had to  
set this manually in display preferences).  I assume what works with  
my mini and my airbook would also work with a macbook pro.  I haven't  
tried the VGA option, but assume that would work too.


One thing I discovered is it doesn't work if you have display  
mirroring on.  If that is the case, turn it off in display  
preferences, and hopefully it will then work.


If not, try tilting the screen up or down a little bit (or move your  
head relative to the screen).


I went through a bit of frustration but it was all due to user error  
on my part.


Is the DVI cable just dead?

Did you issue the command in coot to start the stereo specific to  
Zalman mode?


Try the latest PyMOL too.  You have to rename it MacPyMOLZalman.app  
first.  Then open it, and if it isn't already in stereo, just hit the  
stereo menu item.


Depending on the positioning of the window, and number of pixels, you  
can have the image reversed, so check to see if that is happening, as  
it ruins the 3D effect.


Good luck.  Hope it is working for you soon.

Bill


On Aug 5, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jürgen Bosch wrote:


Hi Bill,

I have received my two Zalmans yesterday and I wanted to try them  
out today. I don't seem to have the right settings I assume as I get  
a double vision image e.g. a loop that is supposed to be in the back  
in 3d splits up and you can see two lines (that's as Calpha). I have  
played with the resolution of the monitor to decrease it to 768x1024  
but the two lines still persist.
I'm using the latest  15 MacBookPro via MiniDisplayport to VGA as  
the DVI does not seem to work with the cable provided by Zalman I  
assume.


My coot is
0.6-pre-1 rev 2037

I turned of spaces and enabled mirroring to keep it simple but I'm  
not quite happy right now. I have not yet tried Pymol as my version  
does not support the Zalman monitors.


Any suggestions what I can try to get rid of the double lines ?

Thanks,

Jürgen

-
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Phone: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-3655
http://web.me.com/bosch_lab/



[COOT] Stereo Coot

2009-07-29 Thread William G. Scott

Dear Bernhard:

Thanks very much for implementing Zalman stereo into coot.  I  
apologize for neglecting to say so in my earlier email, and after  
previous cootbb emails, I have no excuse (except maybe fatigue).   
Thanks also for pythonizing coot, by the way, too.


All the best,

Bill


Re: [COOT] Coot with stereo LCD on OS X

2009-07-29 Thread William G. Scott

On Jul 29, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Paul Emsley wrote:


For me, the reference stereo image is Frodo on a ES PS390.


I'm old(e) enough to remember having used that.



You might like to tweak the eye angle:

set_hardware_stereo_angle_factor(1.45) # or some such

(I am presuming that you are using the pythonic version).


The mac (fink) versions that we packaged use both python and scheme  
simultaneously at the same time all at once concurrently and in unison.







Thanks to Paul (and Warren) for implementing this.



For stereo support of Zalman M220W in Coot, credit should entirely  
go to Bernhard Lohkamp.


Sorry, I fscked up.  I have no excuse, given previous email exchanges,  
except to plead sleep deprivation and juvenile onset senility (but I  
remember the PS300).




Regards,

Paul.


Tootle pip.

Bill


Re: [COOT] problem with install on new Macbook Pro (OS X 10.5)

2009-06-05 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Jason:

For some reason that I don't understand, some users find they need to  
issue the command


source /usr/local/xtal/coot/bin/init.sh

prior to issuing the command

coot


(coot in this context actually invokes a wrapper shell script that  
has that first source command in it, so that is why I don't understand  
why it isn't working.  If someone who is experiencing this problem  
feels like trying an experiment, just edit that shell script file /usr/ 
local/xtal/coot/bin/coot  and after the source line, add a line like


sleep 5

before the line that invokes coot-real. I can't reproduce the problem,  
so I can't test this.)


Sorry for the inconvenience.

Bill




On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Jason Greenwald wrote:


When I migrated to my new Macbook, COOT quit working properly.  The
icons/images do not appear for the majority of the GUI.  I tried all  
three
of the standalone binaries on Bill Scott's website.  The only thing  
that
works is the COOT app package from the CCP4 download site.  However  
with the
app package, I cannot have saved coot states for each directory that  
I work in.


This same problem has been previously reported several times on this  
mail

list but I could not find an answer.

Lrge list of errors on startup and they start with:

** (coot-real:2205): WARNING **: Error loading pixmap file:
/usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/pixmaps/display-manager.png
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/pixmaps/add-alt-conf.svg'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/pixmaps/add-peptide-1.svg'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/pixmaps/add-water.svg'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/pixmaps/anchor.svg'


Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Jason


Re: [COOT] subversion build on ubuntu 9.04 fails : [: =: unary operator expected error

2009-05-12 Thread William G. Scott

I have the following guile-like stuff installed, if it is of any help:

diablo-% which dpkg-list
dpkg-list () {
dpkg --list \...@\*
}
diablo-% dpkg-list guile | grep ii
ii  guile-1.6-libs  
1.6.8-6.3ubuntu1 Main Guile libraries
ii  guile-1.8   
1.8.5+1-4.1ubuntu1   The GNU extension language  
and Scheme interp
ii  guile-1.8-dev   
1.8.5+1-4.1ubuntu1   Development files for Guile 1.8
ii  guile-1.8-doc   
1.8.5+1-4.1ubuntu1   Documentation for Guile 1.8
ii  guile-1.8-libs  
1.8.5+1-4.1ubuntu1   Main Guile libraries
ii  guile-g-wrap
1.9.11-1.1build1 scripting interface generator  
for C - Guile
ii  guile-gnome0-canvas 
2.15.95-2ubuntu1 Guile bindings for  
libgnomecanvas
ii  guile-gnome0-glib   
2.15.95-2ubuntu1 Guile bindings for GLib
ii  guile-goosh 
1.3-1Installs goosh
ii  guile-gui   
0.2-2Installs guile-gui for  
guile-1.8
ii  guile-lib   
0.1.6Installs guile-lib
ii  guile-net-http  
0.3.1-1  Installs the net-http scm file
ii  guile18-gtk 
2.0  guile-gtk-2.0 for guile18
ii  libguile-ltdl-1 
1.6.8-6.3ubuntu1 Guile's patched version of  
libtool's libltdl


I've also noticed that sometimes what the configure error reports  
isn't accurate when you look at the log files -- it might be choking  
on something else.


On May 12, 2009, at 8:11 AM, hari jayaram wrote:


Hello ,
The jaunty 32 bit build seems to fail ( with subversion revision  
2002 as

well)
It seems like based on what Ed Pozharsky wrote in ..its a problem  
with guile

in Ubuntu jaunty (9.04) ..

On my 32 bit , 9.04 installation , the build-it-gtk2-simple script  
chugs

along fine and then declares the following contradictory message

checking for Clipper... yes
Congratulations, you are using Guile
checking for guile... no
configure: error: guile required but not found

Regardless ..I will try Bill Scots or the CCP4 wiki
methodhttp://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Custom_building_Coot_from_source_code 
of

separately compiling all the coot dependencies . But though I would
wrote
in to inquire if there was already a simpler fix.

Thanks

Hari


On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Paul Emsley paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk 
wrote:



hari jayaram wrote:

Hi ..I tried a coot subversion (revision 1994) built-it-simple  
python on

the newest ubuntu 9.04

The build crashes just after it builds guile and ( 16-coot.txt in  
the

build directory ) reads :

checking for Clipper... yes
Congratulations, you are using Guile
checking for guile... no
configure: error: guile required but not found
./build-it-gtk2-simple: line 2742: [: =: unary operator expected
NO need to update libtool
/home/hari/autobuild/ex-charlie_2009-05-08__T20_14_49/coot-0.6-pre-1
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

This happens only on the new ubuntu (on a 32 bit 9.04 system) .
I was able to build this revision without any problem on Ubuntu  
8.04 64

bit



Thanks update_libtool is not set sometimes, so using it as in 1994 is
wrong.  I've tweaked the script.

But the problem for you lies above that..

checking for guile... no
configure: error: guile required but not found


Hmm!  what went wrong there..?

I'll try to build from scratch on Jaunty myself.

Cheers,

Paul.



Re: [COOT] RSR exploding RNA

2009-05-05 Thread William G. Scott

On May 5, 2009, at 3:16 PM, CK wrote:


Hi all,
	I am refining a structure that contains RNA.  I've added hydrogens  
in the riding positions to help with maintaining proper geometry  
during refinement.  However, when I go to adjust the model between  
refinements in coot using Real Space Refine (or even Regularize for  
that matter) the RNA explodes with atoms going every which way.   
This didn't happen before I had added in hydrogens (with Molprobity  
via Reduce).  Also, when I Real Space Refine residues from the  
protein portion, the heavy atoms (C, O, N) behave normally while  
about half of the riding hydrogens go wandering off.  Any particular  
reason why this might be happening?



Hydrogen can be quite explosive.  Have you tried helium?

But seriously, if the program you used to hydrogenate uses a  
nomenclature that coot/refmac doesn't expect, this could happen.  Also  
the zero occupancy might be the culprit.


However you mentioned that without hydrogens it was hard to maintain  
proper geometry.  This might be a cause for concern, or re-examination  
of the structure and its density.


Re: [COOT] coot dependency on $LANG?

2009-04-29 Thread William G. Scott

Could you (or we) set

LANG=en_US.US-ASCII

in the coot wrapper script?


On Apr 29, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Steffen Schmidt wrote:


Hi,

I experienced a weird error (amino acids are not connected) when  
setting the environmental variable LANG to de_DE.UTF-8 (on a OS X  
10.5 machine). I guess this language setting is screwing up the PDB  
file parsing since german uses ',' as decimal separator…


BW
 Steffen


Re: [COOT] coot-0.6-pre1-1941 for intel OS X 10.4/10.5

2009-03-29 Thread William G. Scott

On Mar 29, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Phil Evans wrote:


On 29 Mar 2009, at 04:42, William G. Scott wrote:


This I hope will address previous grievances:

http://tinyurl.com/coot1941


... except I get a load of errors I didn't have before :-(

and no splash screen or icons. The files all seem to be there. Any  
ideas?


I need to find a different line of employment.

This one apparently cured the same problem for Ralf that was occurring  
previously for him.



Just to humo(u)r me and perhaps enable diagnosis of the problem once  
and for all, what version of OS X, X11, and make of computer are you  
using?


Sorry for this.

Bill


Re: [COOT] [ccp4bb] coot crashes

2009-03-02 Thread William G. Scott

On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Vellieux Frederic wrote:


Any idea?


Is it there?

http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com/msg663049.html


Re: [COOT] python or scheme

2009-02-26 Thread William G. Scott

As far as learning scheme,



My $0.02:

From a purely practical standpoint, if, like me, you have limited  
time, energy and mental capacity, python would probably yield a better  
investment payback. There are numerous extensions available that make  
parsing things like pdb files very simple, there is the whole phenix/ 
cctbx resource you can make use of, and it is probably the most  
powerful and commonly employed scripting language among scientists  
(bioinformatics people like perl, for its text processing abilities).  
The syntax is very clean and straightforward and you don't have to  
deal with huge piles of dollar signs and parentheses all over the place.


Whichever you use, be sure to use an editor that employs an  
intelligent syntax highlighting mechanism, like vim, or even emacs (if  
you type with a lisp).  On OS X, TextMate is my editor of choice.


Here's  a site that lists some of the available modules:  
http://wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific

HTH,

Bill


Re: [COOT] coot0.6-pre-1 on FC10

2009-02-23 Thread William G. Scott

What happens if you turn off all compositing effects?


On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:37 AM, David Schwefel wrote:


Dear Coot community,

I encountered some problems using Coot on fedora core 10. I  
installed the
binaries, and upon starting, the system crashed just in the moment  
when the
Coot window appeared. I have a ATI radeon X1650 graphics card. When  
I switch
from the standard radeon to the ATI fglrx graphics driver, the  
system does

not crash anymore, but Coot quits with the following error message:

The program 'coot-real' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such  
operation)'.

 (Details: serial 661 error_code 1 request_code 143 minor_code 19)
 (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
  that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
  To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
  option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
  backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()  
function.)
coot-exe: /usr/local/bin/coot-Linux-i386-fedora-10-gtk2-python/bin/ 
coot-real

coot-version:
/usr/local/bin/coot-Linux-i386-fedora-10-gtk2-python/bin/coot-real
platform:
/bin/uname
core: #f
No core file found.  No debugging

Any hints how to solve this problem?

Best regards and thanks in advance,
David


Re: [COOT] python and coot question

2009-01-30 Thread William G. Scott

On Jan 30, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Nathaniel Echols wrote:


the binaries I was using of coot-0.5-pre1
had this problem, while coot-0.5.1-pre1-1661 used the correct  
interpreter.



That sounds like something I made, in which case I am even more puzzled.


The interpreter is actually supposed to be coot itself - I don't think
/sw/bin/python is going to do you any good, since it doesn't have  
access to

the memory of the running coot process.


OK, but somewhere coot is making the decision to use the system's  
python libraries in sys.path, so I am assuming it can only get these  
from /usr/bin/python.


I think if I can consistently get it to use /sw/bin/python, then at  
least I will know what I am trying to fix.


Re: [COOT] Glossy_P gtk+2

2009-01-16 Thread William G. Scott
Convention is to put it in /usr/share/themes  but it can go anywhere.   
You can source it systemwide with


/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc

and the include line should have the absolute path in double quotes

Alternatively, you can source the file from

~/.gtkrc-2.0

and it should work.

Or if you use gnome, just download the tarball and install the theme  
by pointing the gnome theme manager to the tarball.  Similarly with  
xfce4.  I don't know how it works on KDE.


It will change all the gkt+2 stuff, not just coot.

On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Stefan Arold wrote:


Thank you for your swift reply!

Anticipating problems with the space in the name, I had initially  
changed the directory name to Glossy_P (-no space). However,  
changing it back, and pointing to it in the way you indicated, does  
not help...

Is there a particular directory where Glossy P needs to be sitting?
Or where the  .gtkrc-2.0 file (containing the include /usr/share/ 
themes/Glossy\ P/gtk-2.0/gtkrc) needs to be placed? (I tried ~/, or  
COOT subdirectories etc and themes)
Or did I miss out something in my path? (for COOT it points at the  
bin directory of the current COOT download)


Many thanks for your time and suggestions!
Stefan



==
Stefan T. Arold, PhD
Centre de Biochimie Structurale
CNRS UMR 5048 - UM 1 - INSERM UMR 554
29 rue de Navacelles
34090 MONTPELLIER Cedex  - France
email: stefan.ar...@cbs.cnrs.fr
Phone: +33 (0)4.67.41.77.02
Fax:   +33 (0)4.67.41.79.13
==

- Original Message - From: William G. Scott wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu 


To: COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Glossy_P gtk+2



That would be my fault.

On Ubuntu, I have this:

% more /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc

include /usr/share/themes/Glossy\ P/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
gtk-font-name = Sans 13

The one difference I see is the escaped space rather than the   
underscore, so verify which you should have.




On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Stefan Arold wrote:


Dear All,

I am using coot 0.5.2 on a PC (i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo 2.20GHz
GNU/Linux) under mandriva 2008.
I tried to install the Glossy_P gtk +2 themes as described in the   
coot wiki.



To get this effect, you need the Glossy_P gtk+2 theme:
http://art.gnome.org/download/themes/gtk2/571/GTK2-Glossy_P.tar.gz
Edit a file called ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and put into it the following line:
include /usr/share/themes/Glossy_P/gtk-2.0/gtkrc


However: no effect...
I've tried to copy the Glossy_P/gtk-2.0/gtkrc in various places,  
including

the subdirectories 'themes' and 'etc' of my current coot download
(coot-Linux-i386-redhat-8.0-gtk1-python). Without effect...

any help to gloss my coot would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers
Stefan




Re: [COOT] coot for 10.4 and 10.5 intel

2008-12-15 Thread William G. Scott

The only difference should be the version of coot.


On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Nathaniel Echols wrote:

Hey Bill, this has the correct and complete Python module search  
paths too
(although /usr/local/xtal/coot/share/coot/python is repeated four  
times, but
this doesn't appear to break anything).  What's the difference  
between this

and the coot-0.5-pre1 build you sent out on Thursday?
thanks,
Nat

(still no coot_python, but I'm pretty sure that's a different  
problem.)


On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:40 PM, William Scott
wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.eduwrote:


Is this one any better?


http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Coot-0.5.1-pre1_revision_1661_for_intel-10.4-10.5



On Fri, December 12, 2008 2:53 am, Valerie Biou wrote:

Hi Bill,

I installed it this morning and it starts ok. all I tried is SSM, it

still

crashes. Do you want me to test other things?
all the best

Valerie






William G. Scott

Contact info:
http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/



Re: [COOT] problem in coot installation in ubuntu

2008-11-17 Thread William G. Scott
Oh, in case anyone is wondering how I did this (and how I screwed it  
up), the correct command should have been:


dpkg -S $(  ldd /usr/local/xtal/coot/bin/coot-real | awk '{print $3}'  
| sort -u | grep -v \(  )| cut -f 1 -d : | sort -u | perl -pi -e 's| 
\n|\, |g' | dependencies.txt


whereas I first used

dpkg -S $(  ldd /usr/local/xtal/coot/bin/coot-real | awk '{print $1}'  
| sort -u | grep -v \(  )| cut -f 1 -d : | sort -u | perl -pi -e 's| 
\n|\, |g' | dependencies.txt


My bad.  I needed the third column of the output of ldd to get the  
full path of the dynamic library. The first column only reports the  
name of the file, and then it wrongly assumed it was in my NX  
directory (it wasn't). Coot was properly linked. The list of  
dependencies in the debian file was wrong. Fixed now.   
( coot_0.5-2_i386.deb ).  Again, thanks for catching this.


Bill



On Nov 17, 2008, at 6:57 AM, William G. Scott wrote:

Woops.  I didn't see that.  I auto-generated the list of  
dependencies from the output of ldd on the coot binary, upon which I  
then used dpgk -S to find the corresponding packages. For some  
reason it generated this falsely (the library is also present, but  
ldd does not report coot linking anything with NX in the path).


Sorry, I will edit this out.

Thanks for testing.

Bill



On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Mark Brooks wrote:


Hi,

I just tested it on a freshly installed system for a student; it  
works very

well on Ubuntu Hardy.

I'm not sure why nxnode is a dependency of the Coot .deb though!  
(Although

that doesn't bother me too much- I would advise anyone to use NX ).

Thanks again,

Mark

2008/11/16 William G. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That's great.  In the short term, highly
unofficial/unauthorized/zeroth-order coot and dependencies for  
i386 linux:


debians:


http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Coot#Instalation_on_Debian.2FUbuntu_from_debian_archive_files




rpms (made via alien from above):


http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Coot#Converting_to_rpm_packages




These include mmdb, ssm, gpp4, fftw (in the form required for  
clipper and

coot), clipper, coot, which will install into /usr/local/xtal

and then the various guile-type dependencies, which will install  
into /usr




On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Paul Emsley wrote:

FYI, IIUC, Morten Kjeldgaard has become a MOTU and is working on

crystallographic libs for Ubuntu, e.g.:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clipper
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mmdb

When he gets round to Coot I'm keen to help make his life easier.

Regards,

Paul.


Mark Brooks wrote:


Hi,
It may be useful to have a 'contrib' section for the Coot binary  
download
web page (or even some unofficial web page), so that we have  
more options of
binaries to test. For example, upon upgrading to Ubuntu Hardy  
Heron, Coot
stopped working, for reasons beyond my understanding, but worked  
when
recompiled. (Which was very easy using the build-it-gtk2-simple  
script BTW).
To have a central repository of tested binaries could be very  
handy, to

avoid having to do this.
The Coot developers and yourself (Bill) have done an enormous  
amount to
furnish us with working, tested programs,  but perhaps one or  
two more
updated binaries contributed by users  would be useful,  
especially for newer

releases of the myriad Linux flavours.
I think for the Coot developers to start providing .deb, .rpm  
and Gentoo
packages for every update is too onerous, especially  
when .tar.gz files work

OK. Just my opinion.
Which Ubuntu are you on Bill, and which binary are you using?  
Are these
on your debian web site? I guess I may be able to give a Hardy  
Heron binary

if need be.
Thanks for your .debs though, I use them all the time.
Mark
2008/11/12 William G. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since Ubuntu has gotten to be popular (for good reason, IMO), it
might be useful to have an official (or at least semi-official)
debian package whose installation would guarantee all the
dependencies also get installed.  I've tried to do it in a
half-arsed sort of way, but lately have dropped the ball (sorry).
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Kevin Cowtan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
Firstly, do you need to build coot at all? There are binary
packages which work just fine on Gutsy. You can install them
wherever you want on your system, and they should just work.
Secondly, if for some reason you do want to build your own  
(you

want to make changes to the code???), then are you using the
build-it-gtk2-simple script?

http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/COOT#Installation_from_source_code
Building coot without this script requires days or weeks of
messing around with dependencies. With this script it is  
usually

pretty easy.
Kevin
Rimi wrote:
Hi all,
 I am new to coot. Recently I tried

Re: [COOT] problem in loading icons

2008-11-17 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Enrico:

I have this:

% dpkg -S svg_loader.so
librsvg2-gtk: /sw/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/svg_loader.so

The package that provides this is librsvg2-gtk, which should be a coot  
dependency.


Could you please check, and maybe try reinstalling it, ie.

fink reinstall librsvg2-gtk

and let me know what happens?

Many thanks in advance, and also many thanks to Charles Ballard for  
pointing this out.


Bill




On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Ballard, CC (Charles) wrote:


Hi Enrico

For some reason the pixbuf.loaders file does not contain the  
information

about the svg_loader.  This is normally achieved by running
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders and piping the output to the pixbuf.loaders
file (use find to locate it).  To confirm that you have the svg  
library

setup in gdk in the first place try and locate the svg_loader.la file
(in my case - none fink - it is in lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders ).
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders will have a manual page if more info is
required.

If all else fails, there is a bundle of coot 0.5 at
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/downloadman.php

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Mailing list for users of COOT Crystallographic Software
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Enrico Malito
Sent: 17 November 2008 16:09
To: COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [COOT] problem in loading icons

Hello,

I was wondering if anybody observed this before. When I start coot I  
get
this messages (a long list of errors for the whole content of the  
folder

/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/):

Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/add-alt-conf.svg'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/add-peptide-1.svg'
...
...
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/undo-1.png'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/unknown-blob.png'
initalize graphics molecules...done.

and no icons are loaded in the right bar of coot, only grey boxes (see
attach).
This is 0.5.1-pre-1 installed through fink on OSX 10.5.5, and those
icons files are actually there (in /sw/share/coot/pixmaps/) and seem  
oK.


Thanks much in advance for any hints.
EM


Re: [COOT] problem in loading icons

2008-11-17 Thread William G. Scott

Another idea:

If you have $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH assigned, try unsetting it before  
invoking coot, i.e., issue


DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=  ; coot


On Nov 17, 2008, at 8:09 AM, Enrico Malito wrote:


Hello,

I was wondering if anybody observed this before. When I start coot I  
get this messages (a long list of errors for the whole content of  
the folder /sw/share/coot/pixmaps/):


Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for  
file '/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/add-alt-conf.svg'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for  
file '/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/add-peptide-1.svg'

...
...
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for  
file '/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/undo-1.png'
Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for  
file '/sw/share/coot/pixmaps/unknown-blob.png'

initalize graphics molecules...done.

and no icons are loaded in the right bar of coot, only grey boxes  
(see attach).
This is 0.5.1-pre-1 installed through fink on OSX 10.5.5, and those  
icons files are actually there (in /sw/share/coot/pixmaps/) and seem  
oK.


Thanks much in advance for any hints.
EM
Picture 1.png


Re: [COOT] regarding installing coot via fink

2008-10-15 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Arnab:

Unfortunately, sometimes there are glitches installing some of these  
packages that are dependencies, and I'm not up on each of the 100  
fink dependencies that coot has.


The best thing is to try a second time, and if that doesn't work, issue

fink describe packagename

and it will give you an email address for the package maintainer. Also  
there is a fink user's email list with very knowledgeable people on  
it, and it is probably the fastest way to get a problem fixed.


Bill



On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Arnab Bhattacharjee wrote:


While installing coot via fink I am repeatedly getting this msg


/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-gnome-vfs2-unified-2.20.1-2
(Reading database ... 45318 files and directories currently  
installed.)

Removing fink-buildlock-gnome-vfs2-unified-2.20.1-2 ...
Failed: phase compiling: gnome-vfs2-unified-2.20.1-2 failed


i tried to rebuid gnome-vfs2 manually as well by the rebuild and  
install command in finkcoudn't do it



Any tips plz?


Thanks and Regards
--
ARNAB BHATTACHARJEE

Dept. of Bacteriology and Immunology
SERO Group, Haartman Institute
Haartmaninkatu 3
University of Helsinki
FIN-00014 HELSINKI
Tel. +358-9-191 26385
Fax. +358-9-191 26382


Structural Biology and Biophysics
Macromolecular X-ray Crystallography Group
Institute of Biotechnology.
Biocenter: 3, Viikinkari 1
University of Helsinki
FIN-00790 HELSINKI
Tel. +358-9-191 58922
Fax  +358-9-191 59940





On 14 Oct 2008, at 20:37, William Scott wrote:


Sorry, I just realized that quick-fix won't work.

Instead, edit the file /sw/etc/apt/sources.list

take out the kotoushu lines and put in the three lines shown on  
this page:


http://xanana.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Sources.list_for_10.5_intel_only

i.e.,

deb http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.5_only stable main crypto
deb http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.5_only unstable main crypto
deb http://sage.ucsc.edu/fink_intel_10.5_only local main

Then issue

fink selfupdate-rsync
sudo apt-get update
fink -b update-all


On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:43 AM, William G. Scott wrote:


Dear Arnab:

kotoushu used to host 10.4 intel fink debians, but it is no longer  
available.


Since you are using 10.5, the easiest thing to do is this:


   sudo perl -pi -e  's|kotoushu|sage|g'  /sw/etc/apt/sources.list


if you need further details:  http://tinyurl.com/fink-precompiled


Also make sure you have a recent version of X11.app (ie 2.3.1):

http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

Bill


On Oct 14, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Arnab Bhattacharjee wrote:


Hi Bill,

This is in regard of installing coot in my Mac laptop (leopard,  
10.5). I installed the older version of coot via fink. Now I  
tried to install the latest version directly taking the pre  
compiled binaries first and then it didn't worked. Then I tried  
to install it via fink again. But repeatedly its saying


Err http://kotoushu.ucsc.edu unstable/main opensp4-shlibs  
1.5.1-1006
Could not connect to kotoushu.ucsc.edu:80 (128.114.150.90). -  
connect (61 Connection refused)

Err http://kotoushu.ucsc.edu unstable/main opensp4 1.5.1-1006
Could not connect to kotoushu.ucsc.edu:80 (128.114.150.90). -  
connect (61 Connection refused)

Err http://kotoushu.ucsc.edu unstable/main opensp4-dev 1.5.1-1006
Could not connect to kotoushu.ucsc.edu:80 (128.114.150.90). -  
connect (61 Connection refused)
Err http://kotoushu.ucsc.edu unstable/main sgml-entities-iso8879  
1986-4
Could not connect to kotoushu.ucsc.edu:80 (128.114.150.90). -  
connect (61 Connection refused)

Err http://kotoushu.ucsc.edu unstable/main xft2-dev 2.1.2-5


So can u give me some tips of how to come out of the problem. I  
actually tried to overwrite the earlier version of coot and hence  
the older version doesn't work any more. Will be really helpful  
if u can bail me out of the situation.



Best regards
Arnab

Thanks and Regards
--
ARNAB BHATTACHARJEE

Dept. of Bacteriology and Immunology
SERO Group, Haartman Institute
Haartmaninkatu 3
University of Helsinki
FIN-00014 HELSINKI
Tel. +358-9-191 26385
Fax. +358-9-191 26382


Structural Biology and Biophysics
Macromolecular X-ray Crystallography Group
Institute of Biotechnology.
Biocenter: 3, Viikinkari 1
University of Helsinki
FIN-00790 HELSINKI
Tel. +358-9-191 58922
Fax  +358-9-191 59940














Re: [COOT] Nucleotide Builder

2008-10-10 Thread William G. Scott

I agree, but why do you want to build B-form RNA?

On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Daniel Holloway wrote:

I'm using the 'Ideal DNA/RNA...' function.  When I try to build A- 
form RNA,

I get what I want.  When I ask for B-form RNA, I get DNA!  Looks like
something to fix...

Many thanks


Re: [COOT] Nucleotide Builder

2008-10-10 Thread William G. Scott

Oh, I thought you had discovered a new form of RNA.

You might want to use phenix's elbow builder module. Then you will  
have a cif file for the ligand too.



On Oct 10, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Daniel Holloway wrote:

I'm just interested in taking one residue (a 5'-AMP or 3',5'-ADP  
with the
ribose in the C2'-endo conformation) and using it as the basis for a  
novel

ligand.

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:13:57 -0700, William G. Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I agree, but why do you want to build B-form RNA?

On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Daniel Holloway wrote:


I'm using the 'Ideal DNA/RNA...' function.  When I try to build A-
form RNA,
I get what I want.  When I ask for B-form RNA, I get DNA!  Looks  
like

something to fix...

Many thanks





[COOT] embarrassing question

2008-10-07 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Citizens:

I can't remember who was working on pre-compiling the OS X 10.4X intel  
coot.  Could someone remind me?  Thanks, and sorry.


Bill


Re: [COOT] CNS coordinate in COOT

2008-10-05 Thread William G. Scott
run the pdb file through ccp4's pdbset, which will canonicalize it (if  
that is a word).



On Oct 5, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Masaki UNNO wrote:


Hi Colleagues



I am using CNS for structural refinements.  I have installed  
COOT_0.5 but I
think the new version of COOT cannot display CNS coordinate  
properly.  It

did not display the color by atom and secondly structures.  How can I
display the CNS coordinate by atom or so?  The CNS version is 1.2.



Best regards.





-

Masaki Unno, PhD.



Inst. of Multidisciplinary Research for Advanced Materials,

Tohoku University



2-1-1 Katahira, Aoba, Sendai, Miyagi 980-8577, Japan

Tel: +22-217-5117

Fax: +22-217-5118









[COOT] OS X 10.4.X G4 ppc libgmp.3.dylib

2008-10-04 Thread William G. Scott
Does anyone have a copy of libgmp.3.dylib  from OS X 10.4.X  built on  
a G4 ppc, preferably with a single processor, that works with coot?


If so could you please email it to me?

Thanks.

Bill


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