Re: [COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-24 Thread hari jayaram
Thanks Paul for both messages. Thanks a ton for  a summary of the various
projects underway.  I’m working on the build-it script  on the Linux side
while I figure out a ccp4 full license for my “self learning” small use.

The build it script runs aground with some numpy libraries missing , even
though I had python-numpy-dev..but i’ll keep at it.

In the case of openssl missing errors..it was certainly installed and
pointed to by the LD_LIBRARY_PATH..but it probably was a version mismatch
because I had  different version

Hari



On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:26 PM Paul Emsley 
wrote:

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> On 24/05/2023 14:24, hari jayaram wrote:
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> Hi All
> I am making some progress--but still cant get any of the binaries working
>
> I have the openssl libraries installed but still get the following error
> with coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python
>
> Thanks for your help
> Hari
>
>
>
>
> "hari@LT-Hari-Linux:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu$
> ~/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/bin/coot
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
> libcrypto.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
> /lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_1' not found (required by
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
> /lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
> /home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
>
>
> It is not clear to me if libcrypto is not installed (in which case you
> should install it) or is a more modern version than my binary expects (in
> which case, there is no hope for the binary that I have built (you might
> like to try the build-it script)).
>
> Paul.
>
>
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Re: [COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-24 Thread Paul Emsley


On 24/05/2023 14:24, hari jayaram wrote:


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Hi All
I am making some progress--but still cant get any of the binaries working

I have the openssl libraries installed but still get the following 
error with coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python


Thanks for your help
Hari




"hari@LT-Hari-Linux:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu$ 
~/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/bin/coot
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin: 
libcrypto.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by 
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin: 
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_1' not found (required by 
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin: 
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by 
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)



It is not clear to me if libcrypto is not installed (in which case you 
should install it) or is a more modern version than my binary expects 
(in which case, there is no hope for the binary that I have built (you 
might like to try the build-it script)).


Paul.




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Re: [COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-24 Thread Paul Emsley


On 24/05/2023 02:13, hari jayaram wrote:


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Hi All
I want to get back to using coot to build some models after a gap of 8 
years.


I have access to a Linux laptop and can put any OS version on it.

 I was wondering what the easiest way forward is —get the most recent 
Ubuntu and pull the latest binary ( 0.9.8.6 with binary for 20.04) or 
put the iso that coot was built for (20.04) on the laptop and start 
using it.



The easiest way forward is to use the build from CCP4. They fiddle with 
it in minor annoying ways. It's robust. It comes with a lot of other 
stuff. You have to sign a license.


Best way is to use the build-it script. Then you can track day-to-day 
development. The downside for this is that it often doesn't work out of 
the box.


Having said that, all development tracking is a bit weird at the moment 
since there are 3 versions:


 - the 0.9.x series with old GTK and old python and old graphics

 - 1.0 the current release that depends on Gtk3 that doesn't work well 
on macOS - and maybe not Windows either


 - GTK4 Coot (which is another major rewrite). This is where I am 
spending my time (that and Moorhen).


I want to get to a stage where GTK4 Coot is the only game in town. But 
there is a lot of work to do. And additional further work to make sure 
that it works well on macOS and Windows.


What I can say about future Coots is that they will use your hardware - 
the more cores and better graphics card you have the more 
enjoyable/productive will be your Coot-using experience.






Asking because I just  tried using the newest mint distro ( Mint 21.1 
Vera) and one of the binaries 
(coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python)  and it runs 
aground without OpenSSL and  ldap.so versions are being mismatched.



OpenSSL and Python are particularly time-consuming to correctly 
configure. I don't know how many days and weeks I've spend fiddling with 
it. Lots. Wretched thing.



When I switched to 
coot-0.9.8-binary-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-python-gtk2 then it 
complained of a version mismatch for libssl.so.1.1



I should make a Linux Mint virtual machine...


Regards,


Paul




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Re: [COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-24 Thread hari jayaram
Hi All
I am making some progress--but still cant get any of the binaries working

I have the openssl libraries installed but still get the following error
with coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python

Thanks for your help
Hari




"hari@LT-Hari-Linux:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu$
~/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/bin/coot
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
libcrypto.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_1' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
. -- Coot crashed - trying to diagnose -
ldd -r on guile gives:
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffdbdfae000)
libguile.so.17 =>
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libguile.so.17
(0x7f6d85ccc000)
libc.so.6 (0x7f6d85aa4000)
libgmp.so.10 =>
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libgmp.so.10
(0x7f6d85a2b000)
libcrypt.so.1 (0x7f6d859ef000)
libm.so.6 (0x7f6d85908000)
libltdl.so.3 =>
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libltdl.so.3
(0x7f6d858fd000)
libpthread.so.0 (0x7f6d858f8000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f6d85dd2000)
libdl.so.2 (0x7f6d858f3000)
Guile 1.8.8
Copyright (c) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006,
2007, 2008 Free Software Foundation
Guile may be distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public Licence;
certain other uses are permitted as well.  For details, see the file
`COPYING', which is included in the Guile distribution.
There is no warranty, to the extent permitted by law.
catching the crash log:
coot-exe:
"/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin"
/usr/bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x 1 hari hari 423402112 Mar 10  2022
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin
coot-version:
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
libcrypto.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_1' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/libexec/coot-bin:
/lib/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_0' not found (required by
/home/hari/coot-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-gtk2-python/lib/libcurl.so.4)
platform:
/usr/bin/uname
Linux LT-Hari-Linux 5.15.0-56-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 22 19:54:14
UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
core: #f
No core file found.  No debugging
"

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:13 PM hari jayaram  wrote:

> Hi All
> I want to get back to using coot to build some models after a gap of 8
> years.
>
> I have access to a Linux laptop and can put any OS version on it.
>
>  I was wondering what the easiest way forward is —get the most recent
> Ubuntu and pull the latest binary ( 0.9.8.6 with binary for 20.04) or put
> the iso that coot was built for (20.04) on the laptop and start using it.
>
>
> Asking because I just  tried using the newest mint distro ( Mint 21.1
> Vera) and one of the binaries
> (coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python)  and it runs aground
> without OpenSSL and  ldap.so versions are being mismatched. When I switched
> to  coot-0.9.8-binary-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-python-gtk2 then it
> complained of a version mismatch for libssl.so.1.1
>
> Thanks for your help in advance
>
>
> Hari
>
>



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Re: [COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-23 Thread Bryan Lepore
If you look through the coot archives there should be a thread where I asked 
about and showed some tips on autobuilding coot on a 20-or-so Ubuntu. 

The trickiest thing was apt installing anything coot stopped at, then just 
restart.

I don't know the latest status of that whole process.

-Bryan

> On May 23, 2023, at 21:14, hari jayaram  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All
> I want to get back to using coot to build some models after a gap of 8 years.
> 
> I have access to a Linux laptop and can put any OS version on it. 
> 
>  I was wondering what the easiest way forward is —get the most recent Ubuntu 
> and pull the latest binary ( 0.9.8.6 with binary for 20.04) or put the iso 
> that coot was built for (20.04) on the laptop and start using it.
> 
> 
> Asking because I just  tried using the newest mint distro ( Mint 21.1 Vera) 
> and one of the binaries (coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python)  
> and it runs aground without OpenSSL and  ldap.so versions are being 
> mismatched. When I switched to  
> coot-0.9.8-binary-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-python-gtk2 then it complained 
> of a version mismatch for libssl.so.1.1
> 
> Thanks for your help in advance
> 
> 
> Hari
> 
> 
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[COOT] (Re)beginner question about coot binary version on Linux Ubuntu

2023-05-23 Thread hari jayaram
Hi All
I want to get back to using coot to build some models after a gap of 8
years.

I have access to a Linux laptop and can put any OS version on it.

 I was wondering what the easiest way forward is —get the most recent
Ubuntu and pull the latest binary ( 0.9.8.6 with binary for 20.04) or put
the iso that coot was built for (20.04) on the laptop and start using it.


Asking because I just  tried using the newest mint distro ( Mint 21.1 Vera)
and one of the binaries
(coot-Linux-x86_64-scientific-linux-7.6-gtk2-python)  and it runs aground
without OpenSSL and  ldap.so versions are being mismatched. When I switched
to  coot-0.9.8-binary-Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-20.04.4-python-gtk2 then it
complained of a version mismatch for libssl.so.1.1

Thanks for your help in advance


Hari



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