[Coworking] Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico
Hi. Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with us a relationship of collaboration, but the real reason was our destruction... I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need still being business center. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Local Government and Coworking
Try taking a look at our coworking space : http://www.moseleyexchange.com It was started with assistance from Birmingham City Council, Advantage West Midlands and with assistance from ERDF funding. Since opening in mid 2009 we have recruited more than 50+ members with some already moving thro and setting up larger offices. Happy to have a dialogue with anyone else seeking assistance in setting up this way... James Rock On Nov 30, 3:11 pm, BrianR anon...@gmail.com wrote: Which coworking spaces have worked successfully with local government to get a space going? I have worked with my town. Just wondering who else has done the same. ex. received loans, grants, free rent, etc. I'm talking to my County government about more assistance and need other examples to share with them. Hopefully we can make a list of relationship precedence to benefit all. Thanks! -Brian Carrboro Creative Coworkingwww.carrborocoworking.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico
Not all business centers are bad and each relationship is different. I'm sure there are some bad stories and there will only be more bad stories if this kind of attitude persists. Basterrak, I'm not discounting your situation, just balancing it out with a little optimism. The beauty of the diversity of a list like this is that everyone can take the stories from others, both good and bad, and be better prepared when faced with a situation. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, basterrak imartinez.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with us a relationship of collaboration, but the real reason was our destruction... I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need still being business center. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Local Government and Coworking
Would folks who have received some sort of assistance from local government provide the following to the group? 1) Name of Your Space 2) Name of Municipality you worked with 3) Type of Assistance: ex. Loan Money, free rent, etc. My interest is only to provide examples to my County of other municipalities that have assisted Coworking spaces. Here's my info. Name of Space: Carrboro Creative Coworking Name of Municipality: Town of Carrboro, North Carolina Type of Assistance: Loan Thanks, -Brian On Dec 1, 3:55 am, james.r...@cultivar.co.uk james.r...@cultivar.co.uk wrote: Try taking a look at our coworking space :http://www.moseleyexchange.com It was started with assistance from Birmingham City Council, Advantage West Midlands and with assistance from ERDF funding. Since opening in mid 2009 we have recruited more than 50+ members with some already moving thro and setting up larger offices. Happy to have a dialogue with anyone else seeking assistance in setting up this way... James Rock On Nov 30, 3:11 pm, BrianR anon...@gmail.com wrote: Which coworking spaces have worked successfully with local government to get a space going? I have worked with my town. Just wondering who else has done the same. ex. received loans, grants, free rent, etc. I'm talking to my County government about more assistance and need other examples to share with them. Hopefully we can make a list of relationship precedence to benefit all. Thanks! -Brian Carrboro Creative Coworkingwww.carrborocoworking.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico
Jacob: Hippie. ;) /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.comwrote: Not all business centers are bad and each relationship is different. I'm sure there are some bad stories and there will only be more bad stories if this kind of attitude persists. Basterrak, I'm not discounting your situation, just balancing it out with a little optimism. The beauty of the diversity of a list like this is that everyone can take the stories from others, both good and bad, and be better prepared when faced with a situation. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, basterrak imartinez.c...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with us a relationship of collaboration, but the real reason was our destruction... I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need still being business center. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico
@Hamc Great a successful story! I have a lot of questions to ask :-) Unless it is confidential it is possible to have some figures that show the positive impact of the coworking place for the business center? How many people started in the coworking space and then moved in a bigger space? How the big companies value the proximity of the entrepreneurs? Have you stories to share? How big is your coworking space in comparaison of your overall available space? You said because some of the reasons you refer in your text what are they, could you be more specific? How did the owners, the decision makers were convinced by such an idea? @basterrak Your experience is very valuable. What would you advise to avoid destruction? Better to learn how to avoid a kick before to get one :-) @ Jacob Ah some optimism! Always a pleasure to read. On 1 déc, 13:45, Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote: Not all business centers are bad and each relationship is different. I'm sure there are some bad stories and there will only be more bad stories if this kind of attitude persists. Basterrak, I'm not discounting your situation, just balancing it out with a little optimism. The beauty of the diversity of a list like this is that everyone can take the stories from others, both good and bad, and be better prepared when faced with a situation. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolationhttp://www.officenomads.com- (206) 323-6500begin_of_the_skype_highlighting(206) 323-6500 end_of_the_skype_highlighting On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, basterrak imartinez.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with us a relationship of collaboration, but the real reason was our destruction... I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need still being business center. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Start Up Spread Sheet
This is all great information. What square footage is dedicated to common area? This is important when considering the size of the space and the desk space required in order to determine capacity and the ability to sustain the business. The common spaces I would consider to be the kitchen, a lounge area, a small 4-6 boardroom. My rough guess would be around 700 sq. ft. for a space that is looking to hold 40 to 50 members. Any thought? On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien robrien...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider. The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans. WOW. On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky e...@socialinnovation.ca wrote: We have sample budgets and budget templates here: www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi. It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and revenue sources. Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Start Up Spread Sheet
Rob, your lease expenses are probably too low if you are looking to be in the city. I would budget somewhere between $1400 and $1600 for a space that will house 15+ members. However, I'm not familiar with the area. On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien robrien...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider. The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans. WOW. On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky e...@socialinnovation.ca wrote: We have sample budgets and budget templates here: www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi. It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and revenue sources. Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Start Up Spread Sheet
I just found the 40:60 ratio in the CSI document with at least 30% for common area. On Dec 1, 8:07 pm, Craig - Longbranch Coworking baut...@gmail.com wrote: This is all great information. What square footage is dedicated to common area? This is important when considering the size of the space and the desk space required in order to determine capacity and the ability to sustain the business. The common spaces I would consider to be the kitchen, a lounge area, a small 4-6 boardroom. My rough guess would be around 700 sq. ft. for a space that is looking to hold 40 to 50 members. Any thought? On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien robrien...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider. The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans. WOW. On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky e...@socialinnovation.ca wrote: We have sample budgets and budget templates here: www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi. It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and revenue sources. Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Start Up Spread Sheet
I agree - if you're looking to host 30-40 members - I'm guessing it's more like 2500-3000 sf if not more. We have 2400 sf and 17 members so far and that feels comfy. 1400 sf for desks space and the rest is meeting rooms, kitchen, bathroom, lounge. so we're close to the 40:60 ratio Chad On 2010-12-01, at 8:14 PM, Craig - Longbranch Coworking wrote: I just found the 40:60 ratio in the CSI document with at least 30% for common area. On Dec 1, 8:07 pm, Craig - Longbranch Coworking baut...@gmail.com wrote: This is all great information. What square footage is dedicated to common area? This is important when considering the size of the space and the desk space required in order to determine capacity and the ability to sustain the business. The common spaces I would consider to be the kitchen, a lounge area, a small 4-6 boardroom. My rough guess would be around 700 sq. ft. for a space that is looking to hold 40 to 50 members. Any thought? On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien robrien...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider. The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans. WOW. On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky e...@socialinnovation.ca wrote: We have sample budgets and budget templates here: www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi. It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and revenue sources. Eli Malinsky Centre for Social Innovation Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Chad Ballantyne The Creative Space Director (705) 252-2423 www.thecreativespace.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. inline: tcs-sign-1.png
Re: [Coworking] Investors Business Daily!
Hi, Jorge. I'm Cadu and I work at BeesOffice, a Coworking space here in Rio de Janeiro. Would you mind visit us to know our space? Feel free to come here and drink some cappuccino with us. ;) Abs, Cadu de Castro Alves BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking - Unidade Centro Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203 - Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ CEP: 20090-070 Tel/Fax: + 55 21 2233-5126 www.beesoffice.com On 30/11/2010, at 11:14, Jorge Arthur jabg2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jerome ! g-morning! I am a networker available to work via the Internet. Pls feel free to contact me. Best regards. Jorge Guimaraes jabg2...@gmail.com \ jabg2...@ymail.com +552176382459 \ +552281291955 Rio de Janeiro city, Brazil == 2010/11/30 Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com Hi all. I just wanted to let you know that coworking has made it into the national periodical, Investors Business Daily! They interviewed me a couple of weeks ago and posted this article on their site on Friday. Basically, they wanted to show how landlords have become quite creative and unorthodox in selecting tenants to fill their often, vacant spaces. Those of you who are trying to convince landlords to give your concept a try, show them this article: http://www.blankspaces.com/press/news.php Jerome Chang __ BLANKSPACES work FOR yourself, not BY yourself www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- Att JORGE ARTHUR B. GUIMARÃES -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
