Re: [Coworking] Re: What did Coworking Spaces offer last year on The Coworking Day? and What are they planning to offer this year?

[Coworking Merignac Bordeaux]

Nice work Ramon,

Here in Bordeaux Merignac, is very Quiet , most of people are on holidays.

So waiting September, for more events,

http://www.coworking-merignac.com/agenda-septembre-2014.html

Best regards from France !

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2014-07-29 20:12 GMT+02:00 Susan Dorsch :

> And here is the current list of events happening in Seattle!
>
> http://collaborativespaces.org/coworking-week/
>
> We're hoping to add more, but this is it for the time being.
>
> S
>
> __
> Office Nomads
> officenomads.com
> 206-323-6500(o)
> 206-484-5859(m)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, rachel young 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Many of the spaces in Toronto are doing events like communal lunch, free
>> coworking day, film screening, demos, networking events, etc . Here is the
>> calendar for CoworkingToronto:  http://bit.ly/CTcw2014calendar
>> r.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *rachel young*rac...@camaraderie.ca
>>
>> *We're located at 2241 Dundas St W, 3rd floor*
>> *(between Bloor and Roncesvalles)*
>>
>> *Find us online:*
>> Website/blog  and Newsletter
>> , Twitter
>> ,
>> Facebook , Google+ 
>> , Yelp , and LinkedIn
>> 
>>
>> We're a proud member of CoworkingToronto
>> ,
>> CoworkingOntario , and CoworkingCanada
>> !
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 July 2014 13:08, Ramon Suarez  wrote:
>>
>>> This is what we are doing this year:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Guest of members and former members can cowork for free the full
>>>week.
>>>2. Highlight open doors to encourage people to cowork at least for a
>>>day.
>>>3. Breakfast to kickstart the week.
>>>4. Event to introduce yourself and get help.
>>>5. Mega lunch & sangria a gogo.
>>>
>>> Everything is detailed here:
>>> http://www.betacowork.com/global-coworking-week-betacowork/
>>>
>>>
>>> Ramon Suarez
>>> Serendipity Accelerator, Betacowork
>>> Author: http://coworkinghandbook.com
>>> email & hangouts: ra...@betacowork.com
>>> Phone: +3227376769
>>> GSM: +32497556284
>>> Twitter:http://twitter.com/ramonsuarez
>>> Skype: ramonsuarez
>>> Try coworking: http://betacowork.com
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Citizen Space 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here is the Coworking Day logo in case your only doing one day this
 year, if you plan on promoting coworking week (aug 2-9th), you can get all
 the collateral in the "Coworking Week" post in this group.


 Thanks,
 Toby


 On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:23:56 AM UTC-7, Ramon Suarez wrote:
>
> We did a mega lunch for our members and former members and also open
> doors day.

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Re: [Coworking] Re: What did Coworking Spaces offer last year on The Coworking Day? and What are they planning to offer this year?

[Ramon Suarez]

I am sharing the city events like Toronto and Seattle through the Coworking
Handbook  social media. Let me know of your
city's events so that I can share them and increase visibilitya little bit
:)

Ramon Suarez
Serendipity Accelerator, Betacowork
Author: http://coworkinghandbook.com
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GSM: +32497556284
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Coworking Merignac Bordeaux <
coworkingmerig...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice work Ramon,
>
> Here in Bordeaux Merignac, is very Quiet , most of people are on holidays.
>
> So waiting September, for more events,
>
> http://www.coworking-merignac.com/agenda-septembre-2014.html
>
> Best regards from France !
>
> *José Louis QUIROS *
>
> http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0
>
> Fondateur
> *AquiWork Center  Coworking Mérignac* 
> 80 Avenue de la Libération 33700 Mérignac CAPEYRON
> Tél: 00.33.(0)5.33.48.44.46   Mobile  : 00.33 (0)6.16.54.75.55 et
> (0)6.71.47.52.12
> Email: coworkingmerig...@gmail.com 
>
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> Viadeo
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> Google Plus
> Youtube
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>
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> 2014-07-29 20:12 GMT+02:00 Susan Dorsch :
>
> And here is the current list of events happening in Seattle!
>>
>> http://collaborativespaces.org/coworking-week/
>>
>> We're hoping to add more, but this is it for the time being.
>>
>> S
>>
>> __
>> Office Nomads
>> officenomads.com
>> 206-323-6500(o)
>> 206-484-5859(m)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, rachel young 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Many of the spaces in Toronto are doing events like communal lunch, free
>>> coworking day, film screening, demos, networking events, etc . Here is the
>>> calendar for CoworkingToronto:  http://bit.ly/CTcw2014calendar
>>> r.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *rachel young*rac...@camaraderie.ca
>>>
>>> *We're located at 2241 Dundas St W, 3rd floor*
>>> *(between Bloor and Roncesvalles)*
>>>
>>> *Find us online:*
>>> Website/blog  and Newsletter
>>> , Twitter
>>> ,
>>> Facebook , Google+ 
>>> , Yelp , and LinkedIn
>>> 
>>>
>>> We're a proud member of CoworkingToronto
>>> ,
>>> CoworkingOntario , and CoworkingCanada
>>> !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 July 2014 13:08, Ramon Suarez  wrote:
>>>
 This is what we are doing this year:


1. Guest of members and former members can cowork for free the full
week.
2. Highlight open doors to encourage people to cowork at least for
a day.
3. Breakfast to kickstart the week.
4. Event to introduce yourself and get help.
5. Mega lunch & sangria a gogo.

 Everything is detailed here:
 http://www.betacowork.com/global-coworking-week-betacowork/


 Ramon Suarez
 Serendipity Accelerator, Betacowork
 Author: http://coworkinghandbook.com
 email & hangouts: ra...@betacowork.com
 Phone: +3227376769
 GSM: +32497556284
 Twitter:http://twitter.com/ramonsuarez
 Skype: ramonsuarez
 Try coworking: http://betacowork.com

 


 On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM

[Coworking] Re: What did Coworking Spaces offer last year on The Coworking Day? and What are they planning to offer this year?

[Jeannine]

I just put it on the Wiki Front Page, and included evrybody in this thread 
who had events for Coworking Day listed in this thread for starters.

I jusut added them to Coworking 2013 for the nonce, I may redo that link 
after I get back from vacation to make it just Coworking Day.  

On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:24:11 PM UTC+2, Ender Baykal wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am opening this discussion board to find out what other coworking space 
> owners offered last year and what they are thinking to offer this year on 
> Coworking Day. Let's share some good ideas and examples here :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Best,
>
> -Ender
> www.indiegrovejc.com
>

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[Coworking] Re: What did Coworking Spaces offer last year on The Coworking Day? and What are they planning to offer this year?

[Jeannine]

I will add the logo to the Wiki Front Page as soon as I get back from 
vacation, I am in the Appalachians at the mo, no bandwidth here and the 
upload is giving me fits.  If anybody wants to do it for me I would be most 
grateful.  :-)


On Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:01:21 PM UTC+2, Citizen Space wrote:
>
> Here is the Coworking Day logo in case your only doing one day this year, 
> if you plan on promoting coworking week (aug 2-9th), you can get all the 
> collateral in the "Coworking Week" post in this group.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Toby
>
> On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:23:56 AM UTC-7, Ramon Suarez wrote:
>>
>> We did a mega lunch for our members and former members and also open 
>> doors day. 
>
>

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking Europe 2014 conference to take place in Lisbon on November 24-25-26

[JeanYves]

Only on day left to register to the Coworking Europe 2014 conference 
(Lisbon, Nov 24-25-26) under Early Bird conditions :-)

www.coworkingeurope.net 

Jean-Yves Huwart
Coworking Europe

Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 17:12:38 UTC+2, JeanYves a écrit :
>
> We are happy to announce that the Coworking Europe 2014 conference will 
> take place in Lisbon on November 24-25-26. 
>
> This year, we partnered with Cowork Lisboa and the Lisbon City Council.
>
> All information available on www.coworkingeurope.net 
>
> Early bird registration is open until July 31st. 
>
> We look forward to see you all in Portugal !
>
> Jean-Yves Huwart
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Re: [Coworking] How to add my space to the wiki.coworking.org Directory

[Jacob Sayles]

Juliana,

Jeannine from Kamer 52 is taking over the wiki although she is currently on
vacation.  I'm sure she would love your help and will respond to you when
she is back to a computer next week.  Thanks for the offer!

Jacob

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:49 AM,  wrote:

> Jacob,
>
> Just as Lisa, I would like to add my space (4Legal Coworking) to
> Brasília/Brasil directory listing.
> I've just asked for access to the wiki. Please let me know if I can help
> you in anything.
>
> tks
> Juliana Guimarães
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 24 de julho de 2014 13h34min42s UTC-3, Jacob Sayles
> escreveu:
>>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> I am very sorry for the delay approving your access to the wiki.  Out
>> team in in a constant state of flux and lately we have been dropping the
>> ball.  Truth is, the wiki needs some new champions.  A few years ago I
>> started Open Coworking, a non-profit with the mission to keep the core
>> values in the conversation and keep basic infrastructure, like the wiki, up
>> and running.  I haven't been able to solidify the organization and I'm
>> rather busy with other projects at the moment as well.  I'm actually in SF
>> too this sumer working on a Coliving Hotel.  Perhaps we could get coffee
>> and I could talk you in to taking over the wiki team!  If anyone is
>> interested in the job, please let me know and I'll be happy to show you the
>> ropes.
>>
>> Jacob
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Lisa Anne Logan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I've requested access through the "join this workspace" link a few times
>>> in recent months and never received a response. Is anyone else having this
>>> issue? Is there an active admin/moderator for this workspace currently?
>>>
>>> in particular, I'd like to add my space to the San Francisco directory
>>> listing, and it seems I need access to do so. http://wiki.coworking.org/
>>> w/page/16583935/SanFranciscoCoworking
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> LA
>>>
>>>  Lisa Anne Logan
>>> Director of Marketing and Operations
>>> Hattery
>>>
>>> l...@hattery.com
>>> 415.205.5325
>>>
>>>
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[Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Angela Samuels]

Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space. 
I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I 
even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring 
the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about 
the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real 
estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term 
guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my 
real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my 
lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that 
is why he recommended we change it. 

Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and 
discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions, 
would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He 
came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want 
to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a 
better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your 
stories. 

Thanks,

Angela

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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Alex Hillman]

A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back
and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this
relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think
about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your
community.

Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands
you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right.



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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels  wrote:

> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space.
> I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I
> even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring
> the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about
> the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real
> estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term
> guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my
> real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my
> lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that
> is why he recommended we change it.
>
> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and
> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions,
> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He
> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want
> to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a
> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your
> stories.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angela
>
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Susan Dorsch]

I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started with
Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed eager
to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we realized they
wanted to control everything about how we were using the space (asking us
to ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my favorite one...um, no).
Walking away turned out to be the best decision we could have made!

Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away when
you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the most
important elements of any project.

Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I promise
they're out there!

Susan

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back
> and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this
> relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think
> about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your
> community.
>
> Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands
> you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right.
>
>
>
> --
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels <
> visionarymeeti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking
>> space. I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease
>> right. I even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't
>> favoring the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a
>> question about the last item that we changed which was the (personal)
>> guaranty. The real estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms
>> (initial term guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the
>> suggestion of my real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it
>> and talk to my lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept
>> the terms that is why he recommended we change it.
>>
>> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and
>> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions,
>> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He
>> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want
>> to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a
>> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your
>> stories.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Angela
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Jerome Chang]

Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking space. 
Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months although 
renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a therapist... :-P


Jerome
www.BLANKSPACES.com

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch  wrote:
> 
> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started with 
> Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed eager 
> to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we realized they 
> wanted to control everything about how we were using the space (asking us to 
> ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my favorite one...um, no). 
> Walking away turned out to be the best decision we could have made! 
> 
> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away when 
> you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the most 
> important elements of any project. 
> 
> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I promise 
> they're out there!
> 
> Susan
> 
> __
> Office Nomads 
> officenomads.com  
> 206-323-6500(o)
> 206-484-5859(m)
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman  
>> wrote:
>> A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back 
>> and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this 
>> relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think 
>> about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your 
>> community.
>> 
>> Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands you, 
>> and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space. 
>>> I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I 
>>> even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring 
>>> the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about 
>>> the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real 
>>> estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term 
>>> guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my 
>>> real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my 
>>> lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that 
>>> is why he recommended we change it. 
>>> 
>>> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and 
>>> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions, 
>>> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He 
>>> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want 
>>> to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a 
>>> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your 
>>> stories. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Angela
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Alex Hillman]

What value do you guys get from working with rental brokers? That's never
made sense to me.

-Alex



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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Chang 
wrote:

> Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking
> space. Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months
> although renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a
> therapist... :-P
>
>
> Jerome
> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch  wrote:
>
> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started
> with Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed
> eager to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we
> realized they wanted to control everything about how we were using the
> space (asking us to ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my
> favorite one...um, no). Walking away turned out to be the best decision we
> could have made!
>
> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away
> when you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the
> most important elements of any project.
>
> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I
> promise they're out there!
>
> Susan
>
> __
> Office Nomads
> officenomads.com
> 206-323-6500(o)
> 206-484-5859(m)
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman <
> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back
>> and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this
>> relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think
>> about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your
>> community.
>>
>> Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands
>> you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels <
>> visionarymeeti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking
>>> space. I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease
>>> right. I even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't
>>> favoring the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a
>>> question about the last item that we changed which was the (personal)
>>> guaranty. The real estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms
>>> (initial term guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the
>>> suggestion of my real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it
>>> and talk to my lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept
>>> the terms that is why he recommended we change it.
>>>
>>> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing
>>> and discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the
>>> questions, would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were
>>> there? He came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't
>>> dare want to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe
>>> there is a better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to
>>> hear your stories.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Angela
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Jerome Chang]

Tons. 
Brokers tend to know more about motivations of landlords, standard deal terms, 
or what creative term you could negotiate. 

Brokers also look out for details in the lease that are not favorable, vs a 
lawyer who tends to focus on the legal side and not business side.

Brokers research availabilities then short list them for you unless you like to 
do that all yourselves. 

Brokers also tend to already have relationships with the other broker, 
landlord, or other parties involved so you can understand more the issues at 
hand. This includes seeking opportunities that aren't even listed yet. 

I've copied my two brokers for them to chime in or for anyone to ask them 
questions. I've worked with them for 5 years and they intimately know what 
Coworking space operators need. 


Jerome
www.BLANKSPACES.com

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hillman  
> wrote:
> 
> What value do you guys get from working with rental brokers? That's never 
> made sense to me. 
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Chang  wrote:
>> Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking space. 
>> Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months although 
>> renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a therapist... 
>> :-P
>> 
>> 
>> Jerome
>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started with 
>>> Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed eager 
>>> to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we realized they 
>>> wanted to control everything about how we were using the space (asking us 
>>> to ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my favorite one...um, no). 
>>> Walking away turned out to be the best decision we could have made! 
>>> 
>>> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away when 
>>> you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the most 
>>> important elements of any project. 
>>> 
>>> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I promise 
>>> they're out there!
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> 
>>> __
>>> Office Nomads 
>>> officenomads.com  
>>> 206-323-6500(o)
>>> 206-484-5859(m)
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman 
  wrote:
 A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back 
 and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this 
 relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think 
 about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your 
 community.
 
 Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands 
 you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease 
 right. 
 
 
 
 --
 
 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia
 
 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels 
>  wrote:
> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking 
> space. I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease 
> right. I even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't 
> favoring the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a 
> question about the last item that we changed which was the (personal) 
> guaranty. The real estate said oh we changed it back to the original 
> terms (initial term guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. 
> With the suggestion of my real estate agent, I took the weekend to think 
> about it and talk to my lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he 
> wouldn't accept the terms that is why he recommended we change it. 
> 
> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and 
> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions, 
> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He 
> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want 
> to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is 
> a better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear 
> your stories. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Angela
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Anca Mosoiu]

When I got my second space, I worked with a professional broker who knew a
lot about the local buildings and landlords.  He steered me away from a
couple of folks and buildings that would have made my life unpleasant.

While my guy wasn't super-psyched to show me space in buildings where the
landlord wasn't going to pay his commission (e.g. the buildings owned by
individuals rather than larger firms), he was very helpful in keeping me
appraised of things coming up in the market, made sure that the landlord
threw in some free improvements, and generally saved me a lot of time.

Anca.



On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> What value do you guys get from working with rental brokers? That's never
> made sense to me.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
> --
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Chang 
> wrote:
>
>> Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking
>> space. Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months
>> although renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a
>> therapist... :-P
>>
>>
>> Jerome
>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch  wrote:
>>
>> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started
>> with Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed
>> eager to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we
>> realized they wanted to control everything about how we were using the
>> space (asking us to ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my
>> favorite one...um, no). Walking away turned out to be the best decision we
>> could have made!
>>
>> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away
>> when you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the
>> most important elements of any project.
>>
>> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I
>> promise they're out there!
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> __
>> Office Nomads
>> officenomads.com
>> 206-323-6500(o)
>> 206-484-5859(m)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman <
>> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going
>>> back and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this
>>> relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think
>>> about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your
>>> community.
>>>
>>> Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands
>>> you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> /ah
>>> indyhall.org
>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels <
>>> visionarymeeti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking
 space. I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease
 right. I even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't
 favoring the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a
 question about the last item that we changed which was the (personal)
 guaranty. The real estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms
 (initial term guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the
 suggestion of my real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it
 and talk to my lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept
 the terms that is why he recommended we change it.

 Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing
 and discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the
 questions, would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were
 there? He came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't
 dare want to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe
 there is a better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to
 hear your stories.

 Thanks,

 Angela

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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Angela Samuels]

That might be a problem that I have, I'm working with a long time friend
real estate agent who I worked with years ago. She mostly works with homes
so I don't think she knows the commerical market as much. I've been doing
searching because a lot of people don't know what coworking is yet. We're
going to look at a couple more properties next week. Thanks for your
responses. It makes me feel a little better that I'm not the only one that
goes through with this.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Anca Mosoiu  wrote:

> When I got my second space, I worked with a professional broker who knew a
> lot about the local buildings and landlords.  He steered me away from a
> couple of folks and buildings that would have made my life unpleasant.
>
> While my guy wasn't super-psyched to show me space in buildings where the
> landlord wasn't going to pay his commission (e.g. the buildings owned by
> individuals rather than larger firms), he was very helpful in keeping me
> appraised of things coming up in the market, made sure that the landlord
> threw in some free improvements, and generally saved me a lot of time.
>
> Anca.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Alex Hillman <
> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What value do you guys get from working with rental brokers? That's never
>> made sense to me.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Chang 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking
>>> space. Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months
>>> although renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a
>>> therapist... :-P
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerome
>>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started
>>> with Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed
>>> eager to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we
>>> realized they wanted to control everything about how we were using the
>>> space (asking us to ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my
>>> favorite one...um, no). Walking away turned out to be the best decision we
>>> could have made!
>>>
>>> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away
>>> when you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the
>>> most important elements of any project.
>>>
>>> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I
>>> promise they're out there!
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>> __
>>> Office Nomads
>>> officenomads.com
>>> 206-323-6500(o)
>>> 206-484-5859(m)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman <
>>> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going
 back and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this
 relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think
 about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your
 community.

 Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands
 you, and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right.



 --

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia


 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels <
 visionarymeeti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking
> space. I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease
> right. I even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't
> favoring the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a
> question about the last item that we changed which was the (personal)
> guaranty. The real estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms
> (initial term guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the
> suggestion of my real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it
> and talk to my lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept
> the terms that is why he recommended we change it.
>
> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing
> and discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the
> questions, would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were
> there? He came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't
> dare want to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe
> there is a better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to
> hear your stories.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angela
>
> --
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Jerome Chang]

Oh wow. Residential agents really have no business brokering commercial 
spaces...MAYBE if you're buying a building or house, but still, NOT a good idea.

JEROME CHANG

Mid-Wilshire
5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 
ph: (323) 330-9505


Downtown
529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 
ph: (213) 550-2235 





On Jul 30, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Angela Samuels  wrote:

> That might be a problem that I have, I'm working with a long time friend real 
> estate agent who I worked with years ago. She mostly works with homes so I 
> don't think she knows the commerical market as much. I've been doing 
> searching because a lot of people don't know what coworking is yet. We're 
> going to look at a couple more properties next week. Thanks for your 
> responses. It makes me feel a little better that I'm not the only one that 
> goes through with this. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Anca Mosoiu  wrote:
> When I got my second space, I worked with a professional broker who knew a 
> lot about the local buildings and landlords.  He steered me away from a 
> couple of folks and buildings that would have made my life unpleasant.
> 
> While my guy wasn't super-psyched to show me space in buildings where the 
> landlord wasn't going to pay his commission (e.g. the buildings owned by 
> individuals rather than larger firms), he was very helpful in keeping me 
> appraised of things coming up in the market, made sure that the landlord 
> threw in some free improvements, and generally saved me a lot of time.
> 
> Anca.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Alex Hillman  
> wrote:
> What value do you guys get from working with rental brokers? That's never 
> made sense to me. 
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Chang  wrote:
> Lease negotiation for me is the worst part of setting up a Coworking space. 
> Hang in there. My first lease was the only one in under 6 months although 
> renewing it later took 18 months. I use a broker, a lawyer, a therapist... :-P
> 
> 
> Jerome
> www.BLANKSPACES.com
> 
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Susan Dorsch  wrote:
> 
>> I'd echo Alex on this one for sure. When we were first getting started with 
>> Office Nomads, we had been in negotiations with a landlord who seemed eager 
>> to work with us at first, but the more we learned the more we realized they 
>> wanted to control everything about how we were using the space (asking us to 
>> ensure there was no one on site after 8pm was my favorite one...um, no). 
>> Walking away turned out to be the best decision we could have made! 
>> 
>> Sounds like you did your homework, caught the changes, and walked away when 
>> you should have. Nicely done! Knowing when to say no is one of the most 
>> important elements of any project. 
>> 
>> Best of luck finding a landlord who is willing to work with you - I promise 
>> they're out there!
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> __
>> Office Nomads 
>> officenomads.com  
>> 206-323-6500(o)
>> 206-484-5859(m)
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Alex Hillman  
>> wrote:
>> A lot of landlords are, well, crazy. The fact that you've been going back 
>> and forth for 6 months is is a pretty big red flag to me that this 
>> relationship wasn't going to work long term. You don't even want to think 
>> about the gnarliness that would create down the road for you and your 
>> community.
>> 
>> Consider this a blessing in disguise. Having a landlord who understands you, 
>> and who you trust, is WAY more important than getting the lease right. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Angela Samuels 
>>  wrote:
>> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space. I 
>> have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I 
>> even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring 
>> the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about 
>> the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real 
>> estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term 
>> guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my 
>> real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my 
>> lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that is 
>> why he recommended we change it. 
>> 
>> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and 
>> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions, 
>> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He 
>> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want to 
>> work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a 
>> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would l

Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Jorge Vargas]

Sighly off topic but haven't you all tried to get the landlord to invest in
the coworking space. I know our case was weird as he happens to be very
interested in entrepreneurship and owns a lot of office space.
On Jul 30, 2014 4:44 PM, "Angela Samuels" 
wrote:

> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space.
> I have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I
> even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring
> the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about
> the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real
> estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term
> guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my
> real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my
> lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that
> is why he recommended we change it.
>
> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and
> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions,
> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He
> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want
> to work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a
> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your
> stories.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angela
>
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Re: [Coworking] Has anyone experienced this in finding a place to lease?

[Jerome Chang]

I've tried. The best so far has been like a retail store in a mall: rev share. 

I, however, have larger build-out budgets than most so that probably has been 
the challenge. For those with lower bars, a landlord's investment could be more 
feasible...maybe via lease incentives you wouldn't be able to get otherwise. 


Jerome
www.BLANKSPACES.com

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Jorge Vargas  wrote:
> 
> Sighly off topic but haven't you all tried to get the landlord to invest in 
> the coworking space. I know our case was weird as he happens to be very 
> interested in entrepreneurship and owns a lot of office space.
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2014 4:44 PM, "Angela Samuels"  
>> wrote:
>> Last Friday, I was supposed to sign a lease for my future coworking space. I 
>> have been working with this owner for 6 months to get the lease right. I 
>> even hired a lawyer to take a look at it and make sure it wasn't favoring 
>> the landlord. I come to the lease signing and I still had a question about 
>> the last item that we changed which was the (personal) guaranty. The real 
>> estate said oh we changed it back to the original terms (initial term 
>> guaranty). I ask him did he email us, he said no. With the suggestion of my 
>> real estate agent, I took the weekend to think about it and talk to my 
>> lawyer. My lawyer said before hand that he wouldn't accept the terms that is 
>> why he recommended we change it. 
>> 
>> Now I have to try to find another place, but it was really disturbing and 
>> discouraging someone would do that. What if we didn't ask the questions, 
>> would he allowed me to signed it and not know the changes were there? He 
>> came back wanting to bargain but I don't trust him and wouldn't dare want to 
>> work with him. It's crazy but maybe it was meant to be, maybe there is a 
>> better place and this is why it happened. Anyway, would love to hear your 
>> stories. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Angela
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