[Coworking] Re: Coworking Partnership
Thanks for the positive words, Faraz, and really glad to have you on board! With regards to your original post about partnering with your space: I'm generally always open to the idea of partnering in spirit with other coworking spaces. Can you say a little more about what--in practice--you have in mind? Is it just a matter of agreeing to host one-another's coworkers as the need arises? Or more about the spirit of agreeing to cooperate with one another as needed? Or something else? Thanks in advance. Best, Will On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:27:39 AM UTC+1, Faraz Majidulla wrote: Thanks for your insight Will, it is very helpful and puts things in perspective. I have signed up to coworking without borders, as I agree it compliments the coworking visa very well. I recommend all other spaces to join this program even if you are not part of coworking visa, as it is a smaller community and you can have more direct access to other coworking spaces. Regards, Faraz On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 21:54:28 UTC+6, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace wrote: Hi All, A group of us in Prague created a kind of complement to the Coworking Visa to halp account for things the visa doesn't do well partly because of its greatest asset: it's simplicity. I'd love it if spaces would add themselves to coworkingwithoutborders.com. I think the Coworking Visa is great in many ways--primarily for its simplicity and the number of spaces using it. My coworking space is a member of the Visa program and we have not considered leaving it. That said, there are a few side effects of the Visa's virture of simplicity that makes it less than complete from my perspective: (1) It feels awkward for me and for many of my members to actually use the Visa. I/they feel bad visiting a host space that we know has bills to pay and is providing us a service for free that their own members are paying for (even though they've agreed to it and we know we would be happy to host their members). I love it when people use the visa to visit our space, but when I've used it, I just felt awkward and at some point I decided I'd rather just support the space I'm visiting and pay for the days I use. In my experience, most of my members feel similarly. (2) A lot of the spaces listed in the visa program are in fact defectors. They put themselves there so their members can use the visa program, but they don't even offer the default three days. More often than not in my experience, the space managers don't know what it is when they're contacted or don't honor it (I had this experience with now 5 of 6 spaces my members contacted, and that I sent follow up--polite!--emails to, not honoring the Visa). It's nice for us to host visitors from other spaces even if the host space isn't on the visa program. But it's certainly not how the program is meant to work. (3) The default time (3 days, which very few spaces go beyond and many spaces go below) is so short it's generally not worth the trouble. If a member only has three days in a city, they're usually not interested in trying a coworking space (unless they're specifically into exploring the world of coworking). Coworking Without Borders is not meant to be an alternative to the Coworking Visa (rather a complement). I don't get anything out of spaces joining it other than being a space listed there, and so benefitting from there being more spaces in the network. It's free (like the Coworking Visa, you just add your space to a list--by filling out a Google form--and select certain terms you're agreeing to), there are no fees, there's no intermediary, and there's nothing keeping you on the list if for some reason you don't end up liking it. But to me and the other spaces in Prague that set it up, it provides great potential added value to our members (with whom we created it based on their ideas of what they would want) and solves almost all the issues listed above:Instead of putting the burden on the hosting space, visitors must actually pay the hosting spaces. Since they pay directly to that space for the time they use, there's no complexity with respect to currency exchange, escrow, or conflicting pricing models. The hosting spaces benefit and the visitors don't have to feel like they're taking something for nothing. Home spaces have the option to offer *their members* those used days to the length of their memberships free (what is being asked of the host space with the Visa program), which if chosen allows for a truly shared membership across spaces. Since it's restricted to full-time members of a coworking space, it also provides an incentive for members on the fence to get full-time membership. Anyway, I'd love to see broad sign up for this: I don't see any cost to participating (other than the time taken to register your space). It adds value to your members and has the
[Coworking] Christmas, Rudolph Coworking
Hi All, I posted this a couple years back, but now that Christmas is again drawing near... I love this clip from the 1964 classic, *Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. H*e and one of Santa's misfit elves (pretty much) embrace the idea of coworking: http://youtu.be/C19H95-YI0M Merry Christmas! :) Best, Will -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: Inside The Phenomenal Rise Of WeWork
Wall Street Journal reports http://www.wsj.com/articles/wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163WeWork just raised $355 million and is now valued at $5+ billion. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Inside The Phenomenal Rise Of WeWork
Funny enough, the article URL is more telling about what’s really going on here: /wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163 -- The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Steve King sk...@emergentresearch.com wrote: Wall Street Journal reports http://www.wsj.com/articles/wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163WeWork just raised $355 million and is now valued at $5+ billion. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Inside The Phenomenal Rise Of WeWork
Alex, Do you consider WeWork to be coworking or something else - closer to Regus? - Aaron Aaron Cruikshank Principal, CRUIKSHANK phone: 778.908.4560 e-mail: aa...@cruikshank.me web: cruikshank.me http://www.cruikshank.me twitter: @cruikshank https://twitter.com/cruikshank book a meeting: doodle.com/cruikshank http://www.doodle.com/cruikshank linkedin: in/cruikshank http://www.linkedin.com/in/cruikshank On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Funny enough, the article URL is more telling about what’s *really* going on here: /wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163 -- *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.* Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Steve King sk...@emergentresearch.com wrote: Wall Street Journal reports http://www.wsj.com/articles/wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163WeWork just raised $355 million and is now valued at $5+ billion. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] New Member
Just found this place, interesting. I am new to this field and I am looking for as much information as I can get. Thanks John -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] New Member
Greetings, I am a space catalyst located in Harlem NYC. This is my first post in the forum. I look forward to building meaningful relationships and curating the ideal artistic community!! -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: So...where are all the space managers?
I would like an invite to the slack group. I just started managing a coworking space in Colorado Springs called Epicentral. I have a lot to learn and could really benefit from a group like this. Please send an invite to fr...@epicentral.org. Thanks On Saturday, September 6, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-6, Adam Teterus wrote: Hey, all. I'm Adam. So I've been running Indy Hall as the Point Man for just shy of 3 years, looking over this place and these people on a daily basis from January of 2011 to right now (and well beyond right now, I should hope). 3 years of facilitating relationships between new and old members, introducing newcomers to our community, saying goodbye to longstanding members who came before me, bumping into very *human* obstacles and guiding members through sometimes tough social situations, always toward a place in which we're much tighter and stronger and better than where we came from. I recently had a really great conversation with a friend about what it is that I do here at Indy Hall. Given that coworking is relatively new in the scheme of things, and given that it's a burgeoning meta-community and industry in its own rite, she asked me who I turn to when I have questions, when I encounter something new. That's a long, winding answer. My reference points are ALL OVER the place, there's not really anyone one, particular role model. Not really a coworking space manager that I look to for parallels or direct reference. Many of you on this forum are among reference points, but there's a contingent missing from the Google Group: the person that most closely reflects me and what I do here at Indy Hall. I know that person and those people exist, but...where are they? My friend, she's a researcher type, and she points out that I've got this wealth of domain knowledge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_knowledge, this set of skills and attributes that I reflexively understand and act on every day to keep this community up and running. Things that I often take for granted, admittedly. Things I rarely think about because I'm not talking about them out loud with other people who do it, too. She goes on to say that it sounds like I'm lacking a field http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_(academia), a network of people who share the same domain knowledge. A group of people like me. Where are those people? I know the Google Group is primarily for/frequented by owners and prospective space owners, but where do the space managers go to talk to one another? The daily, boots on the ground, hired to be here community leader - where does she go for answers? Where do they go to learn and talk and share? Hell, where do they go to debrief and unwind after a long week of weird social situations? Who teaches them how to do what they're doing? Further, for owners and prospective owners: when you're hiring for a coworking space manager, who are you looking toward and thinking, yeah, I need *that* person? When you do hire someone, who do you refer that person to in terms of a role model for the gig? Where are the people like me? Who are they? I want to meet 'em. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: So...where are all the space managers?
I am new to this field and would greatly appreciate an invite. John Hannington jthalfl...@gmail.com On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:47:49 PM UTC-5, Adam Teterus wrote: Hey, all. I'm Adam. So I've been running Indy Hall as the Point Man for just shy of 3 years, looking over this place and these people on a daily basis from January of 2011 to right now (and well beyond right now, I should hope). 3 years of facilitating relationships between new and old members, introducing newcomers to our community, saying goodbye to longstanding members who came before me, bumping into very *human* obstacles and guiding members through sometimes tough social situations, always toward a place in which we're much tighter and stronger and better than where we came from. I recently had a really great conversation with a friend about what it is that I do here at Indy Hall. Given that coworking is relatively new in the scheme of things, and given that it's a burgeoning meta-community and industry in its own rite, she asked me who I turn to when I have questions, when I encounter something new. That's a long, winding answer. My reference points are ALL OVER the place, there's not really anyone one, particular role model. Not really a coworking space manager that I look to for parallels or direct reference. Many of you on this forum are among reference points, but there's a contingent missing from the Google Group: the person that most closely reflects me and what I do here at Indy Hall. I know that person and those people exist, but...where are they? My friend, she's a researcher type, and she points out that I've got this wealth of domain knowledge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_knowledge, this set of skills and attributes that I reflexively understand and act on every day to keep this community up and running. Things that I often take for granted, admittedly. Things I rarely think about because I'm not talking about them out loud with other people who do it, too. She goes on to say that it sounds like I'm lacking a field http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_(academia), a network of people who share the same domain knowledge. A group of people like me. Where are those people? I know the Google Group is primarily for/frequented by owners and prospective space owners, but where do the space managers go to talk to one another? The daily, boots on the ground, hired to be here community leader - where does she go for answers? Where do they go to learn and talk and share? Hell, where do they go to debrief and unwind after a long week of weird social situations? Who teaches them how to do what they're doing? Further, for owners and prospective owners: when you're hiring for a coworking space manager, who are you looking toward and thinking, yeah, I need *that* person? When you do hire someone, who do you refer that person to in terms of a role model for the gig? Where are the people like me? Who are they? I want to meet 'em. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Inside The Phenomenal Rise Of WeWork
Yeah, definitely. They’re a real estate company. They’ve gotten better at their version of “community” than Regus has, for sure, but if you get closer to what they do instead of reading the press and their marketing material, you’ll find that it’s a high volume, high turnover real estate business (which is a big part of what makes their financials appear different from their more conservative cousins). Among the many things that are interesting to me is that early on, they actively rejected the coworking language along with the broader coworking community…until coworking really started to mainstream and it became advantageous for them to use the word. Now they’re rejecting the idea of being a real estate company because they don’t like being compared to it. I don’t think their model is bad, by the way. And they’re definitely smart. Overvalued? Definitely, but that’s what happens when you align yourself with an already overvalued startup market (which is the vast majority of their audience). But also like the startup market, this kind of growth isn’t sustainable…which is a whole lot more evident when you look beyond what the press tells you is true :) -Alex -- The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Aaron Cruikshank aa...@cruikshank.me wrote: Alex, Do you consider WeWork to be coworking or something else - closer to Regus? - Aaron Aaron Cruikshank Principal, CRUIKSHANK phone: 778.908.4560 e-mail: aa...@cruikshank.me web: cruikshank.me http://www.cruikshank.me twitter: @cruikshank https://twitter.com/cruikshank book a meeting: doodle.com/cruikshank http://www.doodle.com/cruikshank linkedin: in/cruikshank http://www.linkedin.com/in/cruikshank On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Funny enough, the article URL is more telling about what’s *really* going on here: /wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163 -- *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.* Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Steve King sk...@emergentresearch.com wrote: Wall Street Journal reports http://www.wsj.com/articles/wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163WeWork just raised $355 million and is now valued at $5+ billion. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Inside The Phenomenal Rise Of WeWork
I generally agree w/ Alex - valuation is sky high, and sustainability is questionable. In general, be careful of the hype. My 2 cents: WeWork is closer to a hotel operation. They’ve recently been exploring more and more the lounge/conference rooms side of the business, and in my opinion, explore next the retail side (coffee, etc.). So then the question is, “Is a hotel business a real estate company?” My opinion is no - it’s a business operation. Does a hotel or WeWork foster “community”? My opinion is maybe, in that certain demographics will gravitate to that brand and therefore appreciate meeting fellow like-minded folks. In the end, does it matter? My opinion is no. They’re focusing on what they do, and if they have any interest to collaborate with the rest of us coworking folks, then great. In the meantime, they’ll just continue to claim they’re coworking, as will many others who are coworking or not, or who collaborate w/ fellow coworking folks or not. JEROME CHANG WEST: Santa Monica 1450 2nd Street (@Broadway) | Santa Monica CA 90401 ph: (310) 526-2255 CENTRAL: Mid-Wilshire 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 EAST: Downtown 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, definitely. They’re a real estate company. They’ve gotten better at their version of “community” than Regus has, for sure, but if you get closer to what they do instead of reading the press and their marketing material, you’ll find that it’s a high volume, high turnover real estate business (which is a big part of what makes their financials appear different from their more conservative cousins). Among the many things that are interesting to me is that early on, they actively rejected the coworking language along with the broader coworking community…until coworking really started to mainstream and it became advantageous for them to use the word. Now they’re rejecting the idea of being a real estate company because they don’t like being compared to it. I don’t think their model is bad, by the way. And they’re definitely smart. Overvalued? Definitely, but that’s what happens when you align yourself with an already overvalued startup market (which is the vast majority of their audience). But also like the startup market, this kind of growth isn’t sustainable…which is a whole lot more evident when you look beyond what the press tells you is true :) -Alex -- The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Aaron Cruikshank aa...@cruikshank.me wrote: Alex, Do you consider WeWork to be coworking or something else - closer to Regus? - Aaron Aaron Cruikshank Principal, CRUIKSHANK phone: 778.908.4560 e-mail: aa...@cruikshank.me web: cruikshank.me twitter: @cruikshank book a meeting: doodle.com/cruikshank linkedin: in/cruikshank On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Funny enough, the article URL is more telling about what’s really going on here: /wework-now-a-5-billion-real-estate-sartup-1418690163 -- The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Steve King sk...@emergentresearch.com wrote: Wall Street Journal reports WeWork just raised $355 million and is now valued at $5+ billion. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because
