[Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

[Steve Suard]

Mine is tiny and coworkers happy (fridge, microwave, coffee..) Simple bur 
useful.

[image: kit.jpg]


On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 11:36:00 AM UTC-10, AK wrote:
>
> Our space is small (under 1500 ft )  so we are thinking of foregoing a 
> kitchen and having a counter with a sink and small under counter fridge.  
>
> I seek ideas and photo of other spaces who have a similar situation ( no 
> full kitchen)
>
> Thoughts on the whole idea are welcome.
>
> Thank you.
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Help Professors Prove that Coworking WORKS!

[Gyles Meng]

How wonderful. I will get in touch with them for sure. We will guarantee
that the result will not be hidden away from our community members. We are
more than happy to share our findings.

Best,
Gyles

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 21:35, Hector Kolonas  wrote:

> Hey Gyles thanks for sharing this.
>
> There are so many great studies and surveys being put out all the time,
> but alot of the findings are usually lost to the community (even those who
> submit their own information).
>
> Might I suggest chatting with the folks at coworkinglibrary.com to make
> sure you can share your findings with the wider community, and maybe they
> can help you reach more spaces too.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Hector
>
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>
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>>
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[Coworking] Re: VIdeo Conferencing Hardware

[Carl Sullivan]

They are all good points, perhaps I can expand on what I mean.

Currently, we set up all our meeting rooms with an appropriate sized TV, 
then; 
- hook up an HDMI cable with a mini DVI>HDMI Dongle and a USB-C>HDMI Dongle
- Attach an Apple TV (for Airplay), and
- Attach a Google Chromecast device

This set up allows 95% of all devices (inc mobiles and tablets) to use the 
screen for meeting purposes, and we really enjoy the flexibility it gives 
to all members.

The challenge is to now pick hardware for both videos conferencing via 
multiple computers, tablet and mobile devices, plus have the ability to use 
mobiles for audio-only conference calls. 

Alex challenged me in that this is not a "must", well our community (and 
many businesses in Sydney in general) are not head offices, and 80% of the 
companies that use our space have teams based elsewhere. So for our 
community video conferencing facilities are an integral part of their 
workflow and a feature that we would love to support to the best of our 
ability.

Currently, we are testing out a Logitech Group COnferencing 
unit 
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/logitech-group-video-conferencing-system-for-mid-to-largesized-meeting-rooms-ab84646?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvYnH1ILk3gIVlIqPCh1E_A6pEAQYAiABEgKf3PD_BwE
 
but it has been a little clunky, and I have therefore been looking into 
other options, especially the Google Hangouts 
Hardware 
https://enterprise.google.com/intl/en_au/chrome/devices/google-hangouts-meet-hardware-kit/
 
given that the majority of our community ues the Google Enterprise suites 
to run their email, calendars, tasks and online drive. 

In addition to this, an increasingly critical component of our tech stack 
is the use of Google Calendar for us to sync meeting rooms across multiple 
platforms. Given that when using google calendar natively, it will 
automatically generate an online video chat code (through Google Hangouts) 
plus I am assuming it also has the ability (via the chrome store) to add in 
apps to the other major platforms (slack, skype, zoom, appear.in, go to 
webinar, etc.) 

All that said, I would love to know if there is a solution that works well 
in your community?

Carl

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:35:59 AM UTC+11, Carl Sullivan wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> In the 7 years, we have been running coworking, I have noticed a shift 
> from meeting spaces that have the optional extra video conferencing system 
> to it being a must in almost any meeting room that is 3 people or more.
>
> The challenge is selecting the right video conferencing hardware that can 
> support a wide range of solutions since every company who is a member of 
> our space has a different software stack they prefer.
>
> SO... what are your recommendations for video conferencing hardware? If 
> you would like to expand to your complete physical tech for a meeting 
> space, I am also very interested in that. And what programs do you notice 
> your members using most often for video conferencing?
>
> Carl
>

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RE: [Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

[Alkaye Media / Al]

9 ft ceiling height

 

 

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Of Marc Bacayon
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:10 AM
To: coworking@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

 

How high are you ceilings. Ive seen some space build out a loft space.

 

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 12:06 PM Alex Hillman mailto:dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Big +1 to having some space for gathering. That's more important than the 
"kitchen" facilities.  

 

If you think of it as multi-purpose space, rather than strictly kitchen/meal 
space, I think your options start to open up a lot!

 

-Alex



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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 7:37 PM Carl Sullivan mailto:c...@yourdesk.com.au> > wrote:

I would highly recommend that you have somewhere that is not desks for your 
team to hang, even if its just 2 x 3 seater lounges that are adjacent to the 
kitchen.

 

I have seen and built many small spaces, and a commonality is that if you are 
trying to maximise space build a small kitchen and place an 8 seater kitchen 
table next to it. This zone can double up as open plan meeting room space 
before and after lunch, and as a lunch zone during lunch hours.

 

It is also a golden opportunity to make a space that has tones of character and 
photographs well for advertising and socials. Here is an example of a space 
that I set up, sourcing this old red velvet lounge off ebay and paring it with 
a couple of simple books, side tables and a plant made it pop...

 



 

This space was 126m2 (1356ft2) and we fit space for 26 people, a kitchen, a 
break out lounge area, 2 video editing studios and an 8 person meeting room. 
Check out what I did here... 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz2RcnHfAvyvTWFKbHJwLW1sN0E?usp=sharing 

 

 


On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:22:08 AM UTC+11, AK wrote:

Thank you, Carl. My concern is less of a efficiency kitchen, but the WHOLE idea 
of making the kitchen a separate place for people to relax. It just seems that 
our space is too small for that.

The one you show is quite nice. More than we intend even.  

 

 

From: cowo...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:cowo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl Sullivan
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 5:00 PM
To: Coworking
Subject: [Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

 

I have built kitchens that are only 4ft wide that worked. Some kitchens can be 
super small and fit into cupboards.

 

   

Or go onto Pinterest and search "Tiny Kitchens"

 

Carl

 

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:36:00 AM UTC+11, AK wrote:

Our space is small (under 1500 ft )  so we are thinking of foregoing a kitchen 
and having a counter with a sink and small under counter fridge.  

 

I seek ideas and photo of other spaces who have a similar situation ( no full 
kitchen)

 

Thoughts on the whole idea are welcome.

 

Thank you.

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[Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

[AK]

Attached is our current space allocation. There is a wall adjoining the 
bathroom sink wall. Thus plumbing is not a problem for the kitchette.  We 
do have space just outside the bathroom which could be a space to 
congregate...but who would really want to that...there?  Not sure what to 
with that area --more ideas welcome., 

Al


On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 3:36:00 PM UTC-6, AK wrote:
>
> Our space is small (under 1500 ft )  so we are thinking of foregoing a 
> kitchen and having a counter with a sink and small under counter fridge.  
>
> I seek ideas and photo of other spaces who have a similar situation ( no 
> full kitchen)
>
> Thoughts on the whole idea are welcome.
>
> Thank you.
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

[Carl Sullivan]

Edit: the office I linked to has 20 person capacity, not 26. and a better 
link to see the other 
photos... 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz2RcnHfAvyvTWFKbHJwLW1sN0E?usp=sharing 

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 11:37:28 AM UTC+11, Carl Sullivan wrote:
>
> I would highly recommend that you have somewhere that is not desks for 
> your team to hang, even if its just 2 x 3 seater lounges that are adjacent 
> to the kitchen.
>
> I have seen and built many small spaces, and a commonality is that if you 
> are trying to maximise space build a small kitchen and place an 8 seater 
> kitchen table next to it. This zone can double up as open plan meeting room 
> space before and after lunch, and as a lunch zone during lunch hours.
>
> It is also a golden opportunity to make a space that has tones of 
> character and photographs well for advertising and socials. Here is an 
> example of a space that I set up, sourcing this old red velvet lounge off 
> ebay and paring it with a couple of simple books, side tables and a plant 
> made it pop...
>
> [image: entropico_space_7.jpg]
>
>
> This space was 126m2 (1356ft2) and we fit space for 26 people, a kitchen, 
> a break out lounge area, 2 video editing studios and an 8 person meeting 
> room. Check out what I did here... 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz2RcnHfAvyvTWFKbHJwLW1sN0E?usp=sharing
>  
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:22:08 AM UTC+11, AK wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Carl. My concern is less of a efficiency kitchen, but the 
>> WHOLE idea of making the kitchen a separate place for people to relax. It 
>> just seems that our space is too small for that.
>>
>> The one you show is quite nice. More than we intend even.  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* cowo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:cowo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Carl Sullivan
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 5:00 PM
>> *To:* Coworking
>> *Subject:* [Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have built kitchens that are only 4ft wide that worked. Some kitchens 
>> can be super small and fit into cupboards.
>>
>>  
>>
>> [image: Premium Quality Compact Kitchen - Informative Kitchen Appliance 
>> ...]
>>
>> Or go onto Pinterest and search "Tiny Kitchens"
>>
>>  
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:36:00 AM UTC+11, AK wrote:
>>
>> Our space is small (under 1500 ft )  so we are thinking of foregoing a 
>> kitchen and having a counter with a sink and small under counter fridge.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I seek ideas and photo of other spaces who have a similar situation ( no 
>> full kitchen)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thoughts on the whole idea are welcome.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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Re: [Coworking] VIdeo Conferencing Hardware

[Gene Ward]

Yep. Great advice.


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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:38 AM Jacob Sayles  wrote:

> Alex touches on an often overlooked element of coworking vs a standard
> office.  In typical office environment the IT department controls the
> laptops as well as the meeting room equipment.  In a coworking space that
> is not the case.  Anything that requires extra software to install is an
> extra step members  will need to do and extra help your staff is going to
> need to help them with.  While it may seem "easy" when you do it once, it's
> more like death by a thousand cuts.  And of course there are always members
> that bring in an old dusty laptop with outdated software and you have to
> find a way to support that as well.
>
> I had the opportunity to buy fancy systems and instead opted to put a nice
> camera on the TV and extend USB + HDMI to the middle of the table.  This
> leaves the door open for any system they want to run on their computer.
>
> Jacob Sayles
> Collaborative Systems Designer
> Kanawha Design Studio
> https://kanawha.design
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:09 AM Alex Hillman 
> wrote:
>
>> I would strongly challenge the idea that this is a "must."
>>
>> It's something to break, to maintain, to replace, and to worry about
>> training people to use. We've tried several "meeting room" boxes and have
>> sent them all back in favor of Zoom and Zoom rooms for our own stuff and
>> letting everyone bring their own.
>>
>> Plus, like you said, everybody has their own platform preferences and
>> requirements. So whatever you choose, you can expect a large % of people to
>> NOT use it.
>>
>>
>> Choosing hardware and systems like this makes more sense for an office
>> who has their own space, but far less so for shared resources.
>>
>> The two most high value improvements I've seen for video conferencing is
>> adjustable table lighting to help people look nicer on camera, and
>> dedicated Ethernet cables and adapters to ensure people can and do plug
>> their computers in for the most stable internet connection possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Alex
>> On Nov 19, 2018, 4:35 PM -0500, Carl Sullivan ,
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> In the 7 years, we have been running coworking, I have noticed a shift
>> from meeting spaces that have the optional extra video conferencing system
>> to it being a must in almost any meeting room that is 3 people or more.
>>
>> The challenge is selecting the right video conferencing hardware that can
>> support a wide range of solutions since every company who is a member of
>> our space has a different software stack they prefer.
>>
>> SO... what are your recommendations for video conferencing hardware? If
>> you would like to expand to your complete physical tech for a meeting
>> space, I am also very interested in that. And what programs do you notice
>> your members using most often for video conferencing?
>>
>> Carl
>>
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Re: [Coworking] VIdeo Conferencing Hardware

[Jacob Sayles]

Alex touches on an often overlooked element of coworking vs a standard
office.  In typical office environment the IT department controls the
laptops as well as the meeting room equipment.  In a coworking space that
is not the case.  Anything that requires extra software to install is an
extra step members  will need to do and extra help your staff is going to
need to help them with.  While it may seem "easy" when you do it once, it's
more like death by a thousand cuts.  And of course there are always members
that bring in an old dusty laptop with outdated software and you have to
find a way to support that as well.

I had the opportunity to buy fancy systems and instead opted to put a nice
camera on the TV and extend USB + HDMI to the middle of the table.  This
leaves the door open for any system they want to run on their computer.

Jacob Sayles
Collaborative Systems Designer
Kanawha Design Studio
https://kanawha.design


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:09 AM Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> I would strongly challenge the idea that this is a "must."
>
> It's something to break, to maintain, to replace, and to worry about
> training people to use. We've tried several "meeting room" boxes and have
> sent them all back in favor of Zoom and Zoom rooms for our own stuff and
> letting everyone bring their own.
>
> Plus, like you said, everybody has their own platform preferences and
> requirements. So whatever you choose, you can expect a large % of people to
> NOT use it.
>
>
> Choosing hardware and systems like this makes more sense for an office who
> has their own space, but far less so for shared resources.
>
> The two most high value improvements I've seen for video conferencing is
> adjustable table lighting to help people look nicer on camera, and
> dedicated Ethernet cables and adapters to ensure people can and do plug
> their computers in for the most stable internet connection possible.
>
>
>
> -Alex
> On Nov 19, 2018, 4:35 PM -0500, Carl Sullivan ,
> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> In the 7 years, we have been running coworking, I have noticed a shift
> from meeting spaces that have the optional extra video conferencing system
> to it being a must in almost any meeting room that is 3 people or more.
>
> The challenge is selecting the right video conferencing hardware that can
> support a wide range of solutions since every company who is a member of
> our space has a different software stack they prefer.
>
> SO... what are your recommendations for video conferencing hardware? If
> you would like to expand to your complete physical tech for a meeting
> space, I am also very interested in that. And what programs do you notice
> your members using most often for video conferencing?
>
> Carl
>
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Re: [Coworking] VIdeo Conferencing Hardware

[Alex Hillman]

I would strongly challenge the idea that this is a "must."

It's something to break, to maintain, to replace, and to worry about training 
people to use. We've tried several "meeting room" boxes and have sent them all 
back in favor of Zoom and Zoom rooms for our own stuff and letting everyone 
bring their own.

Plus, like you said, everybody has their own platform preferences and 
requirements. So whatever you choose, you can expect a large % of people to NOT 
use it.


Choosing hardware and systems like this makes more sense for an office who has 
their own space, but far less so for shared resources.

The two most high value improvements I've seen for video conferencing is 
adjustable table lighting to help people look nicer on camera, and dedicated 
Ethernet cables and adapters to ensure people can and do plug their computers 
in for the most stable internet connection possible.



-Alex
On Nov 19, 2018, 4:35 PM -0500, Carl Sullivan , wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> In the 7 years, we have been running coworking, I have noticed a shift from 
> meeting spaces that have the optional extra video conferencing system to it 
> being a must in almost any meeting room that is 3 people or more.
>
> The challenge is selecting the right video conferencing hardware that can 
> support a wide range of solutions since every company who is a member of our 
> space has a different software stack they prefer.
>
> SO... what are your recommendations for video conferencing hardware? If you 
> would like to expand to your complete physical tech for a meeting space, I am 
> also very interested in that. And what programs do you notice your members 
> using most often for video conferencing?
>
> Carl
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