Re: [Coworking] Re: Requesting quick video clips
We have video's of all Jellies. It is a mix of people at work (tm),presentations and chatter :) http://www.theworks.cz/video Grts Prague TheWorks Dave Ruzius - Show quoted text - On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jacob Sayles wrote: > Resending my request to move this to the top of everyone's inboxes. I > don't have enough to work with yet. I was hoping for 10 or more. > > Jacob > > --- > Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation > http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 > > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jacob Sayles > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I'm working on an idea I have for a video highlighting coworking spaces >> around the world and I need some quick clips of various spaces. I'm not >> looking for professional equipment and sound doesn't matter. Any point and >> shoot camera, Flip or iPhone should do. I want to see people in the spaces >> doing what they do. I'm hoping for at least 10 spaces and more would be >> better. Please take a minute to make a quick, candid clip of your space and >> email it to me directly. >> Basic Details >> 1) Show people, not furniture >> 2) Don't look/wave at the camera >> 3) About 20-60 seconds in length >> 4) Minimum 640x480 resolution >> Thank you! I'll post back here when I'm done and have something to share. >> Jacob >> >> --- >> Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation >> http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM, mitten wrote: > I don't know if this will be helpful to you, but: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhDke6irDDw > > - Laura > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Started our Coworking Research Project
Interesting project indeed and curious about the outcomes as well. John, regarding your question. Do you mean where coworking places get their members (how they build their community) or where coworkers find their clients? In case of the first... as Alex says, community first ! Get out there where you can find people that have a problem (working alone) and a potential wish to work better together. Evangelise Coworking, present, Jelly, connect and build a community of fellow Coworkers that may (or may not) finally decide to work at your space. In case of the second, this depends on eveyones individual business, there way of lead generation that fits their business etc. Yes, Coworking may open new channels for business but it starts with good old networking, (social) marketing etc. Feel free to checkout a small presentation I did on business development for SMB. Basically it covers; find, get found, show off, be different. http://www.slideshare.net/theworkscz/businessdevelopmentcreativecoffee Grts TheWorks Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:53 PM, John Sechrest wrote: > This is very interesting work. > > One of the questions that I have been wondering about is where the > Co-working members get their clients. If you are a coworking member, who > are your customers and how do you get them? > > Any chance you could ask this kind of question? I have about 3-4 different > questions around that issue to help me understand how we support and enhance > the co-working participants. > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, sk...@emergentresearch.com > wrote: >> >> I mentioned on this group a few months ago that Emergent Research (my >> company) was considering conducting a research project on coworking. >> We are going forward with the project and started a few weeks ago. >> >> The project details are on our new project blog - www.coworkinglabs.com, >> which is still very much in beta form and a work in progress:). We >> soft launched the project today with a post describing our plans on >> www.smallbizlabs.com. >> >> We are partnering with the non-profit think tank The Society for New >> Communcations Research (www.sncr.org) on this project. >> >> Our project plan includes two surveys. One of coworking owners/ >> facility managers and the other of coworking facility users. We also >> plan on creating a census of U.S. coworking facilities working >> cooperatively with other groups who are creating directories. We will >> also be conducting in-person and phone interviews. >> >> In terms of timing, we're developing the surveys - which will be as >> short and as simple as we can make them - and will field them this >> summer. We hope to have the research completed this fall. >> >> Our goals are: (1) develop a solid estimate of the size of the >> coworking market (facilities and users); (2) gain an understanding of >> how users view and use coworking facilities; (3) understand the roles >> social media and connective technologies play in coworking; (4) to >> make a stab at forecasting where coworking is going and its role in >> the future of work. >> >> As we get deeper into this work, our goals may change based on >> feedback, input from folks we interview and what we find >> interesting. >> >> For now I am just alerting the group to this work. As we get to the >> survey stage we will be reaching out and looking for help getting >> facility managers/owners and facility users to fill out our surveys. >> >> We will update this group as we progess. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > John Sechrest . > Corvallis Benton . > Chamber Coalition . > 420 NW 2nd . > (541) 757-1507 . sechr...@corvallisedp.com > . > > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Barriers to changing the status quo
This may be the case if the business case solely relies on these facilities offered... In my opinion (and my favorite topic) the true value is not created by the facility, the fax machine or the wifi connection... It's about the people in the coworking community, the value of being part of that community and what a Coworker together with bunch of smart people is capable of. The collborative environment with its facilities are mere enablers for good stuff to be able to happen. These facilities should be offered in a sustainable way and should be made scalable to grow (unlimited) with the seize of the community. A coworking project should be able to prove that the true value comes from "working better, together" and the new social and business benefits Coworking brings. Also I believe there is no threat from public meetups, seminars etc... We've seen a huge difference between the value coming from and experiencing 'public' meetups versus knowledge sharing sessions among members of TheWorks community during Jellies. As members are getting to know eachother there are no or at least way less barriers for discussion, participation. I'd like to see these sessions organized for and by the TheWorks community as "mini barcamps on steroids" So... imho... there are no barriers for growth if you can scale the enabling facilities together with the growth of the community and are able to prove that the value is not delivered by the facilities but by the community and the opportunities that will arise by being part of that community... my 2 czech crowns TheWorks Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Kent Lockart wrote: > I think one of the key barriers to coworking's growth in fee based sites is > being able to show added value for the price of membership/usage. > > WiFi, public desktops, and Meetups are free and abundant. I can locate > like-minded people (or help) geographically anywhere I am in real time with > my mobile. I don't print or fax. Clients are accepting of private > conversations in public spaces. > > These things make the business case harder but not impossible. After all, > vending machines selling bottled water still make money even when they are > located next to a free water fountain or sink-tap. > > Cheers, > > Kent > > PS - I'm assuming the next question is going to be how to overcome the > barriers I'm not sure but I believe it will need to be a blended > solution of many creative things. > > > > On Jul 9, 2010, at 3:50 PM, marileebowlescarey wrote: > >> What do people think are the key barriers to growth in coworking? >> >> Marilee >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] By The Numbers: Running a Coworking Space
Will the GigaOM trial give you access to this piece ? Dave Ruzius www.theworks.cz On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Chad Ballantyne wrote: > Love to see behind the curtain... > > Chad > > On 2010-08-06, at 8:57 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: > > As Imran suggested, I plan to share the data I gave him for the > article here. I just need some time to wrap them with some context of > my own. > > He has, however, wrapped the data with some good objective insights > that echo a lot of the things we believed while developing the > business side of Indy Hall. It was very useful to see/hear those ideas > again from someone else. > > -Alex > > /ah > IndyHall.org > > > On Friday, August 6, 2010, Imran Ali wrote: > > We just published a breakdown on the finances of running, operating > > and investing in a coworking space over at Giga Om Pro (http:// > > pro.gigaom.com/2010/08/by-the-numbers-running-a-coworking-space/) > > > Alex Hillman of IndyHall and Paul Robinson of Fly The Coop (also > > contributors to this mailing list) provided a lot of insight and data > > in the production of the piece. > > > The full article is behind a paywall, but we have a few discount codes > > and I'm sure Alex, Paul and I would be happy to share the insights > > from the piece. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > Chad Ballantyne > The Creative Space Director > > (705) 252-2423 > www.thecreativespace.ca > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. <>
Re: [Coworking] Great press is about your members
I'm all for the people to have their voice and as such I'm happy to be able to point anyone to what TheWorks members are saying. I thought it was just freaking amazing that people were willing to take the time and write a few words about theior experiences during Jellies. This bit of info is more real, more reliable and more valuable than anything that could come from my mouth or I'd be able to put on the web, into a presentation, etc http://www.theworks.cz/page/testimonials-1 Their 2 Czech Crowns On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: > Our story's been told dozens of times at this point, to varying degrees of > accuracy. I'm consistently at odds with the press, who typically covers what > I'd consider the "wrong" things, but then there's that adage that there's no > such thing as bad press. > Would I turn down something based on the story they wanted to tell? Tough to > say, though I have successfully managed to turn articles around from the > story they were trying to run. "Yes vs. No" is a binary decision that > usually leads to a dead end, so I'm always looking for a creative "hidden > option C" > -Alex > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Eco Investment Club > wrote: >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> I totally agree with your advise, however I must ask if you've ever been >> asked to just talk about your story first... And if not yet, would you turn >> it down? >> >> I was recently interviewed by "Next 500" and the editing came out the way >> they wanted the story to flow: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdcaBbVVUTs >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Alex Hillman >> wrote: >>> >>> I've said time and again that a great coworking space >>> has absolutely nothing to do with the facility or the amenities, and >>> EVERYTHING to do with the people inside. >>> Our latest press is almost certainly one of our best, and one of my >>> personal favorites, because it's almost entirely focused on our members and >>> their interactions. Our office manager (featured front and center) and our >>> members spent the most time with the journalist, he and I never even spoke >>> directly (I answered some questions via video). >>> Just some food for thought: next time a journalist reaches out, try >>> getting them in touch with your members before you spend an hour telling >>> your story. Invariably, your members will say some pretty amazing things. >>> -Alex >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> Thank you for your support. >> >> >> Sincerely Green, >> >> >> Yeves R. Perez, CEO + CGO, EINI, Inc. >> President, EcoHub, Inc. >> >> a. The EcoHub >> 4542 Ruffner Street, Suite 170 >> San Diego, CA 92111 >> f. http://facebook.com/ecohub >> tw. http://twitter.com/ecohubinc >> t. 1-866-960-9495 >> lc. http://loosecubes.com/workspace/99 >> yt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxWYIlVKa4E >> >> Please consider the environment before you print this email, but if you >> have to and/ or if you have to print business cards, brochures, flyers, >> posters, banners, etc., please use Spirit Graphics & Printing, the >> "Greenest" and only triple certified printer on the West Coast! >> http://www.sgink.net/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Want to start a coworking space? How to know when your community is ready.
Love (!) the article and exactly the question we at TheWorks.cz are currently faced with. Jellies are great but not really sustainable. Will investigate who is willing to pitch-in to create our own 'club-house' as that's how it should feel.. created and supported by the peeps themselves... TheWorks.cz Dave Ruzius On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Beth Buczynski wrote: > How can you know that there’s enough demand for a coworking space in > your town without personally polling each and every remote worker or > freelancer in a 20 mile radius? > > In this article three space owners share their ideas for gauging > interest, and knowing when both you and your community are ready for a > shared work space. > > Hope it can be helpful to the many future space owners on this list.. > > http://www.shareable.net/blog/is-your-community-ready-for-coworking > > Thanks to Gerard Sychay of CincyCoworks, Joel Bennett of Veel Hoeden, > Angel Kwiatkowski of Cohere Coworking Community, and Alice Kaerast for > their input! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: FYI: Coworking topic on Quora
Have any additional invite left by any chance ? Thanks On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Thomasvds wrote: > I send you an invitation. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Is there a difference between a coworking space and a workhub ?
M. not sure but from http://www.workhubs.com/what-workhub I get that 803 characters are used before anything about people or collaboration is mentioned. It seems to me that facilities here are no 1 and people are secundary? And also... "workhub" is a noun (so a thing, place, facility, bunch of tables) where "coworking space" has at least a verb (done by people) ? In short, the focus seems a bit different but again it will all depend on how a particular project (or platform as we've agreed with Nathanael) gives coworking shape. my 2 czk Dave Ruzius www.theworks.cz On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, JeanYves wrote: > Hello > > When we were preparing the European Coworking conference, we scanned > the different EU countries in search for coworking initiatives. > We were amazed not to find so many coworking spaces in the UK. > It seems the term "WorkHub" (cfr. http://www.workhubs.com/) has been > coined in Britain and gained in popularity. > > Is it really the case ? > Do you see any difference between a workhub and a coworking space ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Dave Ruzius http://www.theworks.cz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Prague Survey Launched
Hi Patrick, that would be great! I'm checking out the site and like the manifesto and the concept of sponsored desks alot ! Just let me know when you come over. Grts Dave On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Patrick wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I'm in Berlin now and will be in Prague for a few days sometime in the > next couple of months, we can meet for a drink, coffee, meal, etc. if > you have some questions and want to talk coworking. > > > Patrick > patr...@station-c.com > http://station-c.com > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Discussion on map-of-coworking-spaces-in-us-and-canada
Login with you google account. Click edit on top of the list. Find your coworking location on the map and drop a placemark. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM, WHERE MMM wrote: > Can someone give directions on how to place a coworking site on this google > map please? > > Thx, Danielle > > WHERE: Open Work Lounge for Creatives > 1519 Griffith Park Blvd. (Silverlake) > Los Angelese, CA (USA) > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:27 AM, turbo2ltr wrote: > >> >> >> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&source=embed&s=AARTsJrnA1iB_oa_K0b178X9JMKmOH8nvQ&msa=0&msid=106781626613503194308.00043ae28812f6044bed3&ll=44.590467,-35.332031&spn=103.107555,270.703125&z=3 >> >> >> >> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Guerrilla Coworking?
This sounds perfectly sane and I love it. Here in Prague I have been working on what I dubbed "officenomads" (not related to the officenomads coworking space in the US) but to become really true 'office nomads' moving from office to office exactly as you describe. Here in Europe the real estate market in in the same situation and I have polled some interest of real estate companies and agencies. There are a number of benefits to this scheme: - no long term lease neccesary so you have a chance to pilot a coworking project - it is scalable; start with a small space at the start of the project and while building the community and move on to a bigger space next - there is a chance to get the best and coolest places on the best locations - try to sell the idea to real estate owners / agents with the fact that they can use this as a great marketing item. "We support small / starting business and put our properties to use by supporting this community" I say go for it. I'd love to discuss in more detail. PragueHub d...@praguehub.com www.praguehub.com On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM, jbb wrote: > > (That's not exactly the word I want, but it sounded catchy) > > My idea started with seeing all the un-leased office space around. > Then I thought about a couple of projects in California that > temporarily put empty downtown retail space to use. > > The idea is to do something sort of between an ongoing jelly and an > impermanent coworking situation by arranging to use for-lease office > space while it stands vacant, and then when it rents, moving on to > another. The commercial real estate market is slow right now I would > guess we'd get at least three months out of a location. > The coworking group would pay a deposit, cover any utilities or > related costs, and pay a nominal rent. > The property owner would get 'some money' instead of no money. They > could also think of the coworkers as "staging" as the office gets > shown to potential commercial tenants. > > Does this sound like something worth thinking about, or just crazy? > > > Jen > > biz-work-space > catalyst > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Guerrilla Coworking?
I agree with Alex and I did consider these drawbacks. I do believe however that it can be explained to the community that to get started and keep costs low in the beginning this scheme would be chosen. It should be explained that this is not the long term goal of the project, merely the start. I could however even see this work as soon as one (or more) permanent locations are established and the community is big enough to have a combination of both... to have the permanent space as 'club house', event space and main working place but 'occupy' places around the city for alternative meeting and working space. This would also help us to support more small / medium companies that require mainly 'just the office space' or outhoused worker space and that are less connected to the community. PragueHub Dave Ruzius On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: > As a pilot, and a test for whether or not a region/market/community can > sustain coworking permanently, I think this is an excellent exercise. The > reasons that Dave pointed out, I'm 100% in agreement with. > I just want to point out some of the issues with it from a community > development perspective long term: lack of permanence, clubhouse, and > rituals can lead to weaknesses in the community. Having a physical > presence, or at least some sort of regular meeting post (your local bar, for > example), it's harder for new people to latch onto the idea and join as > members of the community. Regularity and consistency are important, as > humans are habitual creatures. Mixing it up for flavor and excitement are > valuable, but when there's constant change, most people feel disoriented. > > At the same time, this is an opportunity to innovate and grow stronger > where weaknesses could pull you apart. That way, when you DO get > a permanent space for your otherwise nomdic crew, you're not dependent on it > but you have the ability to use it as a focal point for community growth. > > -Alex, IndyHall > > > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful: www.unstick.me > visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Dave Ruzius wrote: > >> This sounds perfectly sane and I love it. >> >> Here in Prague I have been working on what I dubbed "officenomads" (not >> related to the officenomads coworking space in the US) but to become really >> true 'office nomads' moving from office to office exactly as you describe. >> Here in Europe the real estate market in in the same situation and I have >> polled some interest of real estate companies and agencies. >> >> There are a number of benefits to this scheme: >> >> - no long term lease neccesary so you have a chance to pilot a coworking >> project >> - it is scalable; start with a small space at the start of the project and >> while building the community and move on to a bigger space next >> - there is a chance to get the best and coolest places on the best >> locations >> - try to sell the idea to real estate owners / agents with the fact that >> they can use this as a great marketing item. "We support small / starting >> business and put our properties to use by supporting this community" >> >> I say go for it. I'd love to discuss in more detail. >> >> PragueHub >> d...@praguehub.com >> www.praguehub.com >> >> >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM, jbb wrote: >> >>> >>> (That's not exactly the word I want, but it sounded catchy) >>> >>> My idea started with seeing all the un-leased office space around. >>> Then I thought about a couple of projects in California that >>> temporarily put empty downtown retail space to use. >>> >>> The idea is to do something sort of between an ongoing jelly and an >>> impermanent coworking situation by arranging to use for-lease office >>> space while it stands vacant, and then when it rents, moving on to >>> another. The commercial real estate market is slow right now I would >>> guess we'd get at least three months out of a location. >>> The coworking group would pay a deposit, cover any utilities or >>> related costs, and pay a nominal rent. >>> The property owner would get 'some money' instead of no money. They >>> could also think of the coworkers as "staging" as the office gets >>> shown to potential commercial tenants. >>> >>> Does this sound like something worth thinking about, or just crazy? >>> >>> >>> Jen >>> >>> biz-work-space >>> catalyst >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Guerrilla Coworking?
To illustrate the viability and the real difficult situation the real estate and also business centre market is in, we contacted one of the smaller business centres here in Prague and even they showed interest in this nomadic idea while coworking is in a sense competing with them. Also they cannot afford to be empty... Starting of in a business centre would instantaniously give us all the facilities (without contract) we'd need. Regarding internet, I have found a way to have (short wave wifi) internet travel along with the office around the city so that would not be a barrier. To be honest looking at the time real estate remains empty at the moment I would not expect to move every month and I think that in between 6-9 months a critical mass of workers would be formed (the overall community for PragueHub is already growing at the moment with no space to work at all) and it'd be time for a permanent space. PragueHub Dave Ruzius On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Dave Ruzius wrote: > I agree with Alex and I did consider these drawbacks. > I do believe however that it can be explained to the community that to get > started and keep costs low in the beginning this scheme would be chosen. It > should be explained that this is not the long term goal of the project, > merely the start. > I > could however even see this work as soon as one (or more) permanent > locations are established and the community is big enough to have a > combination of both... to have the permanent space as 'club house', event > space and main working place but 'occupy' places around the city for > alternative meeting and working space. > This would also help us to support more small / medium companies that > require mainly 'just the office space' or outhoused worker space and that > are less connected to the community. > > PragueHub > Dave Ruzius > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Alex Hillman < > dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As a pilot, and a test for whether or not a region/market/community can >> sustain coworking permanently, I think this is an excellent exercise. The >> reasons that Dave pointed out, I'm 100% in agreement with. >> I just want to point out some of the issues with it from a community >> development perspective long term: lack of permanence, clubhouse, and >> rituals can lead to weaknesses in the community. Having a physical >> presence, or at least some sort of regular meeting post (your local bar, for >> example), it's harder for new people to latch onto the idea and join as >> members of the community. Regularity and consistency are important, as >> humans are habitual creatures. Mixing it up for flavor and excitement are >> valuable, but when there's constant change, most people feel disoriented. >> >> At the same time, this is an opportunity to innovate and grow stronger >> where weaknesses could pull you apart. That way, when you DO get >> a permanent space for your otherwise nomdic crew, you're not dependent on it >> but you have the ability to use it as a focal point for community growth. >> >> -Alex, IndyHall >> >> >> -- >> - >> -- >> - >> Alex Hillman >> im always developing something >> digital: a...@weknowhtml.com >> helpful: www.unstick.me >> visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com >> local: www.indyhall.org >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Dave Ruzius wrote: >> >>> This sounds perfectly sane and I love it. >>> >>> Here in Prague I have been working on what I dubbed "officenomads" (not >>> related to the officenomads coworking space in the US) but to become really >>> true 'office nomads' moving from office to office exactly as you describe. >>> Here in Europe the real estate market in in the same situation and I have >>> polled some interest of real estate companies and agencies. >>> >>> There are a number of benefits to this scheme: >>> >>> - no long term lease neccesary so you have a chance to pilot a coworking >>> project >>> - it is scalable; start with a small space at the start of the project >>> and while building the community and move on to a bigger space next >>> - there is a chance to get the best and coolest places on the best >>> locations >>> - try to sell the idea to real estate owners / agents with the fact that >>> they can use this as a great marketing item. "We support small / starting >>> business and put our properties to use by supporting this community" >>> >>> I say go for it. I
