[Coworking] Re: Insurance for facilities?
I second this comment. We have the hartford at redtap (redtap.com) and we told them it was a retail/cafe, and the owners were the business partners, and the co-workers were really just retail walk in customers, so there's no 'splaining to do. If you've got a huge space, then maybe they look at things a bit differently. The key is, remember, your name or your business is on the lease presumably, so therefore you need to carry the insurance to cover yourself, your business, and the assets therein. In SF, we have lots of petty crime like burglaries, theft, and vandalism. For the more expensive items, like $3K laptop/computers, you want to make sure these are itemized or included in the coverage you get. Remember, the $500 deductible is great for keeping the costs down, but not great for covering petty theft and vandalism that may occur. For example, a broken window will cost you $100, and that is just an out of pocket expense, a loss. You can't use your insurance for stuff like that. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Derek Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We were required by our landlord to carry a couple million dollar policy. It > wasn't a problem to get through a local broker. We explained that we were an > office service and most folks would be doing office-type jobs. We never > mentioned our fire retardant pajama tester, but it only took a few days to > finalize. Plus, it was pretty darn cheap. > > A broker should be able to figure it out. We ultimately ended up with The > Hartford I believe. > > Our lesson very early on in the process was to forget about explaining the > rational behind coworking. If you tell them it's something new, folks seem > to get worried. If you describe coworking using a long understood business > vocabulary, things moved along smoothly. > > Derek Young > Suite133 > > > On 9/10/08 1:46 PM, "Kelly Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I just got off the phone with our insurer and they are having a heck >> of a time trying to get an underwriter for us. It looks like they're >> going to get it done -- but I can't believe it'd even be an issue. >> >> We're really just renting office space and then allowing people to >> come in and work. >> (Some of) The underwriters are saying they need to know what each and >> every member's company does as there's risk associated with it -- >> (like one of us might be testing fire retardant pajamas in the >> facility). >> >> Anywhoo -- anyone else run into trouble? >> Anyone have any guidance on how they got their places insured to meet >> the landlord requirements? >> Any leads on coworking friendly insurers? >> >> Kelly Brown >> Office Space Coworking >> www.officespacecoworking.com >> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: New Work City membership agreement - version 1
Great ideas. So there are several things here: * A CoWorking Legal Library * An Open Source CoWorking Legal Agreement (in various forms) Can we agree as a group, in principle on a few things: * A license governing all of the documentation. It can't contain legalese specific to on of the contributing organizations. * A way of collaborating on the CoWorking Legal Agreement * A permanent repository for the CoWorking Legal Library ? Did I miss anything? Eventually we would need to develop some FAQs and such for the Legal Library. - David On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Dusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd also dig helping with an open source coworking member agreement. > We're currently not using one at Conjunctured! :o > > We are however, working up a very thorough partnership agreement for > an LLC. Anyone need one of those? :) > > Would be nice to have a open source coworking legal library. > > Dusty > http://conjunctured.com > > On Sep 29, 11:51 pm, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> An open source working agreement would be GREAT. >> I don't know how much I can contribute (legally), but would love to see one >> created and will provide ideas the best I can. >> >> -Mike Schinkel >> President; NewClarity LLChttp://mikeschinkel.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >> Behalf Of Alex Linsker >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:04 AM >> To: Coworking >> Subject: [Coworking] Re: New Work City membership agreement - version 1 >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> I'd like to help create an open source working agreement. Although I'm not >> a lawyer, I've worked for lawyers in relevant fields, and have written >> employment, partnership, client and outsourcing contracts which have been >> greenlighted by some of the best lawyers. I'm great at writing really >> plain-language, simple, direct, easy-to-read contracts. >> >> What's the next step? >> >> -Alex >> >> Alex Linsker >> (646) 269-4915 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Organizational democracy: helping people work together in companies >> >> On Sep 26, 11:01 am, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > To the many of you who've worked from our agreement: >> > Ours was taken from a very generic "shared space" agreement that I >> > found somewhere on the web. We needed something FAST, so we slightly >> > modded the TOS that I'd found and worked from there. >> >> > It's been my desire for over a year now to tone down that agreement, >> > it's got a lot of garbage and legalese in it. >> >> > If anyone is interested in working with Geoff and myself, as well as >> > if anyone has any legal resources that could chip in, I'd love to work >> > together to create an open source coworking agreement that covers what >> > really needs to be covered, and cuts out all of the other crap. >> >> > -Alex >> >> > -- >> > - >> > -- >> > - >> > Alex Hillman >> > im always developing something >> > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com >> > local:www.indyhall.org >> >> > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Tony Bacigalupo >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >> > > Agreed all around. So should we simply removed the "disparaging" or >> > > get rid of the clause altogether? Is it important to have protection >> > > against defamation? >> >> > > Also, since the space isn't open yet, we'll be adding stipulations >> > > that membership won't start until after the space is open, and that >> > > the space will open within a certain range of dates or the agreement is >> null and void. >> >> > > Anything else? >> >> > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > statements or comments of a defamatory or disparaging nature to >> > >> > any third party regarding NEW >> >> > >> Yeah, we based our contract on IH too (thanks Alex!) but took out >> > >> "disparaging" after the first round of signings, "defamation" is >> > >> one thing but with "disparaging" in there it looks like we don't >> > >> want to be critiqued either. >> >> > >> Btw, if anyone opens up a space in Canada, our version has a couple >> > >> of local tweaks so feel free to ask for the file. >> >> > >> Patrick >> > >> station-c.com- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Drama at Citizen Space
Folks, being in SF, I've seen this problem over and over in the past 5 years at my space. As a human being, you have to balance your desire to be compassionate with the need to run a business. Folks who are homeless and/or jobless or suffering from substance abuse, will frequently gravitate to an area of a city that supports or tolerates the way they are living/surviving/getting by. There are any number of root causes behind homelessness (I'm no expert) and it isn't something that fits into our rational view of the world. Once you allow someone access to a restroom or a place to sleep, they'll take it. It supports and enables them to continue their illness. A no-sleep policy in the business is good for business. Vegas does it. You probably should consider it. Zero-tolerance is really the only way. It's not a motel. Bathroom access is a dual-edged sword. Once you allow it, and word is out you have a public restroom, you invite some social problems. I've had a customer take a shower, without permission, in my bathroom at our site, and it only happened once, and I had to bar access to this customer. I felt incredibly torn about it, because at least this guy experienced a moment of dignity in an otherwise harsh city, but I'm not running a motel and wasn't paid for the time or mess this guy created. Restrict access to the restrooms with key, buzzer, or some other system, and you'll reduce the desire for some of the more troublesome folks stopping by. For the door sleeping, the only thing you can do is put a gate across the door at night. They may still sleep in front, but what I've seen is the best places to sleep are under the shelter of a doorway entry, not under the sky. Once you've removed the enabling features of your site, this person will move on. And if you desire to understand the root causes of the homeless problem a bit more, there are a lot of organizations in each city which have volunteer opportunities that may shed some more light on this urban issue that cities like San Francisco seem to struggle with. - David On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Dawn, > > When asked these questions (and we've asked many to fine out more), he > doesn't speak up. He just stares defiantly. I think he may be > autistic? > > T > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Dawn Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Tara, >> >> Given the economy, your situation might not be that unusual. I work out of >> several locations in NYC- some public and some private- and I've seen more >> than my share of folks that remind me of RC. Due to the size of most of the >> locations, only regulars might have noticed somewhat odd behaviors or >> appearances. So, I haven't witnessed anyone mention it as a problem yet (a >> matter of time, it seems) >> >> I am certainly not saying it is your problem to deal with given how you have >> tried to handle the matter, but people lie about their employment and >> housing situations. Is there anyone in your space working with or for public >> service organizations? Perhaps they may have some local references to >> suggest. Is there anyone who might be looking for an intern or have a job to >> fill? Maybe he might express interest if he didn't feel singled out and that >> may get him to open up a little more about his situation if he is facing >> personal difficulties. >> >> In terms of safety, you may have to explore issuing keys (or getting >> building management to do so) for a more controlled environment; even if it >> slightly dampens the culture of the space. >> >> I wonder what he would say if he were asked directly why he spends so much >> time at the space in spite of possibly getting arrested and clearly making >> others around him uncomfortable? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> So, I thought I'd relay a story...not to freak anyone out or change >>> anything, but just as an experience that others can learn from. >>> >>> For about 6 months, there has been a guy who drops in regularly at >>> Citizen Space for free - almost too regularly at times - and would >>> fall asleep at the communal tables in the back. I thought, "Whatever, >>> no biggie, really," until I got a complaint from my landlord that, >>> when CS wasn't open, he would sit outside of our door or wander around >>> the building for hours. So, the next time I saw him I told him that he >>> isn't allowed to be in the building hanging around when we aren't >>> there. So, that was problem A. But he didn't really listen and we >>> would still find him sleeping outside our door. I must have told him >>> about 10x personally. Then he hadn't come around for a while, so I >>> thought that the issue was done. >>> >>> But no. One day I received an email from Eddie from The Hat Factory >>> asking me if Ryan Cook ever hangs out at Citizen Space and that they >>> had to finally ask him to
[Coworking] Re: Espacios disponibles en Loft to Work
Hola Diana, Love the video of your setup: http://www.loft-to-work.com/blog/?p=48 Very creative. Bueno Surte! - David On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Diana DM wrote: > > ¡Hola! > Nosotros hemos montado un loft que es un espacio de trabajo compartido > para profesionales independientes. > > Tenemos 2 zonas disponibles de unos 9 metros cuadrados cada una. Están > listas para empezar a trabajar. > > El alquiler incluye Wi-Fi, servicio de limpieza, aire acondicionado > frío/calor, gastos de comunidad/luz, uso de los espacios comunes > (cocina y zona de reuniones/comedor). > El edificio es un moderno complejo de lofts que cuenta con una piscina > en la planta 3 y un jardín zen en la planta baja. > > Fotos y más datos en: > http://blog.loft-to-work.com/ > > Diana > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Exploring Creating a Geek Community Center Mid-Peninsula, SF Bay
Hi David (weekly), I'd be down for supporting your efforts on the Peninsula. I am in the process of looking at converting my space and efforts at RedTAP (formerly a cybercafe in the Mission District) to a non-profit 501(c)3. Depending upon where things go in the next few weeks, I'll be re-opening as a cafe with some new partners, or converting completely to a cowork space (I already have 2 residents at the moment) with a focus on supporting mobile app developers (my area), and micro-enterprises in the community (also an area where I've spent a bit of time), with the weekend use geared towards the non-profit youth technology projects we have going. Ultimately, I want to keep the location open for the co-work concept, but due to economic forces, I have to make some hard choices about what to do with my space. Depending on your model, it might be interesting to see if there is an overlap in the overall objectives where we expand the offering between our sites. If we can make it work and stay put in SF, we will be putting in a sound production studio for podcasting (another one of our activities) and will be able to host a training facility with roughly 10 computers. Let's catch up sometime on the peninsula, and I'll sign up on your pbwiki page you've set up. - David On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Todd Willey wrote: > > David, > > That's great. I'm glad to see someone else trying to merge a > hackerspace and coworking into a nonprofit. The same thing just got > underway here in Lexington, KY. We're still looking for a space and > and getting the charter together, but the future looks bright. > > You can check out our process more closely at the google group: > http://groups.google.com/group/hacklex > > -todd[1] > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:41 AM, David Weekly wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> Hello! I've been a lurker on here for some time -- some of you may >> know me as the founder of PBwiki or the co-founder of >> SuperHappyDevHouse. Either way, bringing people together is a passion >> for me. >> >> I've watched with gleaming pride in Tara and Chris as Citizen Space in >> San Francisco has flourished, and have begun serious talks with people >> on the mid-Peninsula to create a "community center" for programmers, >> inspired as well by The Crucible in Oakland and Cellspace in San >> Francisco as successful craftsman community centers. >> >> I'd like to make a space at which people could both play and work, >> socialize, tinker, teach, learn, gather, and create. Events and >> classes would be a core part of the expected use of the facility. My >> intent would be to run it as a not-for-profit co-operative. >> >> I've got some first-order interest from people along these lines. If >> this is something that would interest you and you'd like a place to >> come code - one day a month or twenty - let me know what you think and >> take a peek at the first thoughts I've put together here - >> http://hackerdojo.pbwiki.com/ and (it's a wiki!) add your thoughts! >> And if you're interested in the possibility of joining, please >> indicate so on the page. >> >> All of this is just in the very first phases, so your advice, >> suggestions, and reprimands are all very much welcome. >> >> Yours, >> David Weekly >> >> > >> > > > > -- > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email is for sole use of intended > recipient(s). Unauthorized use is prohibited. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Sales Tax?
Hi Molly, Can you produce the line of WA tax code that refers to what items qualify for sales (use) tax? Would help for some of us none WA residents to look at what the situation is. In CA, I pay the FTB (state Franchise Tax Board) quarterly. It's up to the business to either charge sales tax on taxable items explicitly, or build tax into the price for goods/services. To figure this out, you work up a spread sheet of your different revenue sources on a quarterly basis, and then figure out which items are exempt from sales tax, and take the remainder and apply sales tax to those items. You have actually to then (in CA), look at where your revenue occurred (City and County), and pay an additional levy on these taxable items (usually some small %, like in SF, it's less than one point). Interstate sales are treated differently, but you probably won't deal with that in your business. I find it surprising that rental services (which is how I would classify the co-work) qualifies for sales tax, but maybe. As well, you may want to bite the bullet and find a good tax person who does business tax prep (not H & R block) in your state who will be able to guide you through the process. It will be the best money you ever spend on your business. And not to worry, if you mess it up this year, the state will eventually help you correct the problem ;) - David On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Heidi and Molly < heidi.and.mo...@northstaroffices.com> wrote: > > Hello all. > > In preparing our 2008 taxes, we've learned that although sales tax > isn't required for anyone renting full-time office space, anyone who > is renting part-time office space or using our office on a drop-in > basis,, and anyone using our conference room, is required to pay sales > tax (at least in WA they are). We haven't been doing that, so we're > about to embark on the process of paying back taxes, and then figuring > out if/how we need to change our rates to handle these added taxes. > > I'm curious if anyone out there knows anything about this, or has any > advice or information they can share. > > Thanks, > -Molly > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Sales Tax?
We have people rent time on computers (cybercafe) and the rest is services bureau kinds of stuff where they pay for services (prints, fax, cd burns, etc.).I use the rule of whether or not we are giving someone a hard good that they can take away with them, or not. So prints would be taxable, as would CD-Rs that I burned, but not faxes or other things occurring in cyberspace (unless of course, we are talking about e-commerce, which is taxable in CA). And yes, the notion of having some solid service providers as part of your cowork residents is a solid idea, to kind of fill out the normal group of people you'd need to run a traditional business (books, tax, marketeers, web gurus, copywriters, etc.). I'll see if I can get my tax guy to give me a yes no on a long list of co-work related things that people would be paying for (rentals, memberships, drop ins, donations, etc.) when I meet with him in March. Please folks, send me a list of things and I'll ask the questions when I go since I am already paying for the advice. Whomever mentioned setting up the CoWork site or wiki thing, please go ahead and do it, and we should put up a legal section, a tax section, and a business plan section. Email lists are idea for this kind of chat, but not great for collecting information in an organized fashion. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Chris Kerins wrote: > > David, are you referring to paying sales tax in CA for coworking > memberships or some other product? As an illustrator, my understanding > of CA sales tax is items are taxable when something tangible is > exchanged. Not sure about WA. Plus I know that illustration is in a > gray area already. BUT I am NO expert in taxes. > > How are some of you veterans handling this? What did you find out? > > I wonder how health clubs treat sales tax. that may be the closest > analog. > > Another line of thought: perhaps an accountant needs office space at > your location and will trade service for service? They would have > exposure to the rest of the members who might need their service too. > > Chris > > On Feb 6, 10:48 pm, "David J. Kordsmeier" wrote: > > Hi Molly, > > > > Can you produce the line of WA tax code that refers to what items qualify > > for sales (use) tax? Would help for some of us none WA residents to look > at > > what the situation is. In CA, I pay the FTB (state Franchise Tax Board) > > quarterly. It's up to the business to either charge sales tax on taxable > > items explicitly, or build tax into the price for goods/services. To > figure > > this out, you work up a spread sheet of your different revenue sources on > a > > quarterly basis, and then figure out which items are exempt from sales > tax, > > and take the remainder and apply sales tax to those items. You have > > actually to then (in CA), look at where your revenue occurred (City and > > County), and pay an additional levy on these taxable items (usually some > > small %, like in SF, it's less than one point). Interstate sales are > > treated differently, but you probably won't deal with that in your > > business. I find it surprising that rental services (which is how I > would > > classify the co-work) qualifies for sales tax, but maybe. As well, you > may > > want to bite the bullet and find a good tax person who does business tax > > prep (not H & R block) in your state who will be able to guide you > through > > the process. It will be the best money you ever spend on your business. > > > > And not to worry, if you mess it up this year, the state will eventually > > help you correct the problem ;) > > > > - > > David > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Heidi and Molly < > > > > heidi.and.mo...@northstaroffices.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello all. > > > > > In preparing our 2008 taxes, we've learned that although sales tax > > > isn't required for anyone renting full-time office space, anyone who > > > is renting part-time office space or using our office on a drop-in > > > basis,, and anyone using our conference room, is required to pay sales > > > tax (at least in WA they are). We haven't been doing that, so we're > > > about to embark on the process of paying back taxes, and then figuring > > > out if/how we need to change our rates to handle these added taxes. > > > > > I'm curious if anyone out there knows anything about this, or has any > > > advice or information they can share. > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Molly > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Springwise featuring...deskgenie, RIP Regis Cupertino
Folks, thought some would like to read about a new idea on springwise around a marketplace for desk space: http://www.springwise.com/marketing_advertising/deskspacegenie/ Pulled from the latest newsletter, with tons of great ideas: http://springwise.com/weekly/2009-04-01.htm Also, noticed the Regus Cupertino (Co-working meets office suites), which looked to be a something akin to an airport lounge, has officially been closed. I believe they closed at the beginning of the year, after only being open about a year. It is a shame. I think they had a nice clean facility, the best conference rooms I have seen, and friendly staff. The downside to their approach: wrong location (was an old plumbing store, in SV suburbia), unfamiliar concept (Regus is famous around the world for hosting office suites, but co-work is a bit of a niche idea for many), not rooted with any community, and no marketing. They might have had a chance in downtown SJ or SF, but in the new economy I guess they decided to pull out and sublease the space (my estimates they put up 100K + to rennovate, another 50K on furniture and computers, and probably ran another 5-8K in rent, plus 2 FT staff so were easily burning 10K+ per month. - David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Springwise featuring...deskgenie, RIP Regis Cupertino
Agreed, the only way to get the economics "right" are to have the DIY, low-budget mentality. I am sure some of the co-working groups out there have managed to attach co-working to other businesses (say, a web design firm, a cafe, etc.) such that the economics don't have to necessarily work out every month, and can maybe afford some luxuries. Regus might have been able to make it happen had they listened to feedback from the group here first :) Looking forward to checking out the Fiber High and Cubes offerings one of these days. - David On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Liza Loop wrote: > > Hi David - Regus coworking may be dead but Fiber High is not. We've > taken the opposite financial route. Most of our furniture and wall > panels are hand-me-downs. We've done the remodeling ourselves. Our > rent is relatively low so we can pass on low costs to our > members/clients/tenants. Our biggest asset is our connection to the > Palo Alto fiber ring, not the decor. > > Drop by at 989 Commercial St. in Palo Alto - we're ten minutes by > train or freeway from Cupertino. (The walk from the train is 20 to 30 > minutes.) The web site is www.fiberhigh.com > > Cheers, > > Liza (l...@fiberhigh.com, 650 964 5623) > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM, David J. Kordsmeier wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> thought some would like to read about a new idea on springwise around >> a marketplace for desk space: >> http://www.springwise.com/marketing_advertising/deskspacegenie/ >> Pulled from the latest newsletter, with tons of great ideas: >> http://springwise.com/weekly/2009-04-01.htm >> >> Also, noticed the Regus Cupertino (Co-working meets office suites), >> which looked to be a something akin to an airport lounge, has >> officially been closed. I believe they closed at the beginning of the >> year, after only being open about a year. It is a shame. I think >> they had a nice clean facility, the best conference rooms I have seen, >> and friendly staff. The downside to their approach: wrong location >> (was an old plumbing store, in SV suburbia), unfamiliar concept (Regus >> is famous around the world for hosting office suites, but co-work is a >> bit of a niche idea for many), not rooted with any community, and no >> marketing. They might have had a chance in downtown SJ or SF, but in >> the new economy I guess they decided to pull out and sublease the >> space (my estimates they put up 100K + to rennovate, another 50K on >> furniture and computers, and probably ran another 5-8K in rent, plus 2 >> FT staff so were easily burning 10K+ per month. >> >> - >> David >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Interested in opening a coworking space in Rancho Cordova, Ca
Folks, for anyone doing business in the Sac area, I'd like to suggest at least finding out about how to get involved in the Sacramento Entrepreneurship Academy. While this group serves students at Sac State and UCD, it needs volunteers and financial support to thrive. I am an alum from 93/94 and can vouch for the organization. There are some great folks and the board members are all very impressive. I'd suggest finding out about the organization for the benefits of sharing your knowledge with others, and for the networking opportunities. See: http://www.sealink.org You can always sign up for the online community here: http://community.sealink.org/ and post a proposal there to both let folks in the Sac area know about your project proposals, and obtain feedback from people who may be interested in incubating. I'm even thinking that they might be interested in a path for students to go from SEA grad, to new grad, to an incubated company at a local co-working spot. I don't believe they have any arrangement like this. Good luck! - David On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM, jms wrote: > > Hey Geoffrey, > > I'm one of the co-founders of The Urban Hive, a new coworking space in > Midtown Sacramento. We've just been open for about 2 months, but I've > been pursuing getting a coworking spot in Sacramento for more than 2 > years now, so it's exciting to see things finally materialize. > > Anyway, I wanted to let you know of the place, since we're so close to > you, and invite you to visit our spot sometime. I'm out of town myself > until Tuesday, but my two partners would be happy to chat with you. > You can find us on twitter @theurbanhive, or online at > www.theurbanhive.com. > > Thanks for the message, and hope to meet you in person sometime > soon!...jms > > -- > Janna Marlies Santoro > writer⎮editor⎮educator > jannamarlies.com⎮jannamarlies.blogspot.com > > On Jun 11, 3:51 pm, WHERE MMM wrote: > > Hi there Geoffrey, > > > > I have a coworking site in Silverlake/ LA, CA and it is called WHERE: > Meet, > > Mix, Mogul (facebook). WHERE is what I affectionately call an open work > > lounge for creatives. It is based on the values of coworking but has a > bit > > more of a twist since my background is from the non-profit world and I > did > > community development for over 15 years before turning the for-profit > > strategic consulting. > > > > As WHERE is growing I would like to definitely network with you and > invite > > you to come on down for a visit sometime in the near future. > > > > It is great that you are exploring a site of your own .. as many of us > site > > owners will tell you is challenging and rewarding. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Danielle Nicoli > > where...@gmail.com > > 323 663 6636 > > @wheremmm > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Geoffrey Sakala < > > > > geoffreysak...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm exploring the possibility of opening a coworking space in Rancho > > > Cordova, Ca. Where is that? Just east of Sacramento, Ca. I'm an > > > entrepreneur with a social media startup and wanting to have a space > > > where creativity can flow and community can build though open dialog > > > and collaboration. Any tips would be helpful. > > > > > Thanks > > > @rcpost > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] The Hub - Berkeley
Folks, Not sure if this is new to the group or not, but stumbled across this today: http://www.bayarea.the-hub.net/public/ Anyone have any scoop on when it will be operational? - David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: TweetUp last night
Curious, how does one host a TweetUp? I am familiar with Twitter, just not this new concept. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Eric Marden wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Mike Pihlman wrote: > > > I gave tours and let the energy roll (kids playing magnetic > > darts, people on computers tweeting, chatting, or sitting in the comfy > > room reading or chatting)...one possible new member, but, the exposure > > to the community, I think, will be worth it in the long run. > > It usually is. However, you have to keep the energy level high. Plan > your next TweetUp now, and get the date out there. Keep generating > waves if you want to keep surfing. > > Good work, and congrats. > > > - Eric Marden > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > http://ericmarden.com > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: TweetUp last night
Thanks for the insight. Do you use a # tag in the messages to indicate your tweetup topic? Any examples you can point me to? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Chad wrote: > > It's pretty chill - at least the ones we do. Some are themed around > social change, community involvement, tech talk or whatever. Sometime > we just meet and eat really great Vietnamese!! > Chad > > www.thecreativespace.ca > > On 22-Aug-09, at 8:23 PM, Eric Marden wrote: > > > > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:05 PM, David J. Kordsmeier wrote: > > > >> Curious, how does one host a TweetUp? I am familiar with Twitter, > >> just not this new concept. > > > > Its an in-person meet-up advertised on twitter. 'Purists' liken it > > more to a flash mob or impromptu gathering, while most are planned > > weeks in advance and are advertised on multiple social networks. The > > largest Tweetup in Orlando takes its RSVPs on Facebook even. However, > > most people in attendance are on Twitter, and that is probably the > > only factor required to call it a tweet-up, but now I'm just splitting > > hairs. > > > > > > - Eric Marden > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > http://ericmarden.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
