[Coworking] Re: Drama at Citizen Space

2008-10-02 Thread melaniebee

Tara,

We at PariSoMa had a small coworker party about a month ago. I knew
pretty much every one there, except there was one tall, balding guy
kind of lurking around that no one knew. He introduced himself as Ryan
and said he was interested in renting a desk from us. I asked him how
he knew about the very small gathering and he just kind of mumbled
something incomprehensible about a website. For the next hour and a
half, he hung around our office and kind of creeped about and made
everyone uncomfortable. When the party was over, a handful of us went
to dinner and of course someone invited Ryan. Throughout dinner, his
erratic behavior really weirded us out. He got up about 3 or 4 times
to use the bathroom announcing loudly I GOTTA PEE, disappearing for
10 minutes at a time. He knocked over his glass of water and then
pushed the water onto the floor. After I'd finished my meal there were
still some scraps left (mostly chicken bones and a pile of greasy
rice) and he asked my boyfriend if I was going to finish my plate. He
then ate the tiny bits of chicken left on the bones and scarfed all
the rice. We all pretty much sat there WTFing the whole time. The next
day, I told everyone in the office that if a guy named Ryan came by
looking to rent a space, to politely tell him no. I felt bad because
he seemed kind of lonely and lost, but he obviously has problems and
made everyone really uncomfortable. He must be hitting up all the
coworking spaces in SF. I wonder if anyone else has had any
experiences with him.

Anyway, wow. I will definitely be on the lookout.

Melanie Berlin
PariSoMa


On Oct 1, 2:31 pm, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,

 So, I thought I'd relay a story...not to freak anyone out or change
 anything, but just as an experience that others can learn from.

 For about 6 months, there has been a guy who drops in regularly at
 Citizen Space for free - almost too regularly at times - and would
 fall asleep at the communal tables in the back. I thought, Whatever,
 no biggie, really, until I got a complaint from my landlord that,
 when CS wasn't open, he would sit outside of our door or wander around
 the building for hours. So, the next time I saw him I told him that he
 isn't allowed to be in the building hanging around when we aren't
 there. So, that was problem A. But he didn't really listen and we
 would still find him sleeping outside our door. I must have told him
 about 10x personally. Then he hadn't come around for a while, so I
 thought that the issue was done.

 But no. One day I received an email from Eddie from The Hat Factory
 asking me if Ryan Cook ever hangs out at Citizen Space and that they
 had to finally ask him to leave and not come back because he was doing
 the same thing - sleeping in the building - as well as bringing his
 clothes and showering there. Eddie and another guy had taken Ryan to
 lunch to get more information from him and didn't find much out.
 According to Ryan, he had a job and a place to live. So they said he
 would have to limit the times he dropped in and no more showering or
 sleeping there. But he continued, so they finally threatened him with
 calling the police if he returned.

 After that point, he stepped up his presence at CS again, this time he
 had no laptop with him and people in the space (renters and other
 dropins) were starting to complain about his presence. He would come
 in, eat stuff from the cupboards, make coffee and leave a mess, then
 sleep at the table. So, I told him he couldn't come back to CS without
 his laptop - This isn't a shelter, it's a workspace. I said. But a
 couple of nights later, I came into the office to check on a package
 at around 10:00 pm and, after unlocking the security door, I found him
 behind it, hanging out. Of course, this freaked me out a bit, but I
 firmly told him he wasn't allowed to be there, to leave and not come
 back until he gets a computer.

 A couple days later, Jonathan, one of the desk renters, found him,
 again, behind the locked security door and observed a pile of luggage
 and clothes. This was early in the morning. He instantly left and
 called me, telling me he didn't want to have to deal with this any
 longer. I was very angry at that point and went directly over there,
 but he was gone. Later that day, I caught him in the building again
 and told him to take his clothes and leave and that I would call the
 police if he returned. That was last Friday.

 On Monday, I wasn't at the space, but Arne told me he came in to
 gather 'some of his things that he had left' at the space. CS is NOT a
 storage locker. Arne supervised him and walked him out of the
 building. I thought that was the end of it. But no again.

 Today, I stopped by CS to check on a package and, lo and behold, he
 was there again. I totally blew up and told him I was going to call
 the police and locked myself in the office. The police came by and he
 was STILL hanging in the building. The officer talked to him, then
 

[Coworking] Introduction - PariSoma SF/A Couple of Questions

2008-07-01 Thread melaniebee

Hello All,

First off, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Melanie Berlin,
and I've just been hired as the Office Manager for a space called
PariSoMa in San Francisco. You can check us out at
parisoma.wordpress.com. We are just now beginning to rent out desks
for co-working, so we're still trying to figure everything out. I
myself am more used to managing more traditional corporate offices, so
I'm still learning as well. :)

I have a couple of questions that I was hoping to get some advice on.

First off, I'm wondering what other spaces have been doing if people
want to share desks. We decided to try just charging a bit more than
the cost of one person renting a desk to cover key and storage
expenses. If your space allows desk sharing and also has locking file
cabinets, do you have the people sharing the desk also share the same
file cabinet? Any suggestions on how we should handle this?

Also, we are just now getting office insurance for our space, and are
wondering how other spaces handle personal liability insurance. Do you
require co-workers to carry liability or renters' insurance before
renting a desk? What about workers' comp? If someone is injured or has
something stolen or damaged in your space, whose financial
responsibility is it, and is there a way to word the contract so that
the responsibilty lands on the individual and not us?

Any help or info would be appreciated!!

Thanks!
Melanie Berlin


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
Coworking group.
To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---