[Coworking] Introducing myself - Nick in Seattle (Fremont)

2008-06-19 Thread nickf

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to the group.  I am
quite new here and a Space Catalyst.  I co-run a web company called
Blue Flavor in Fremont, a neighborhood of Seattle.  I am also the
owner of Digital Web Magazine, an online magazine for web
professionals.

I think I may know a few people in this group, so hello!  I am in the
process of setting up a space at our office, most everything is in
place but we're still adding the final touches, setting up a website
for the space and so forth.

I do have a bunch of questions for the group but feel I am a little
too green to be firing questions off in my first post.

Thanks,
- Nick

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[Coworking] Re: Introducing myself - Nick in Seattle (Fremont)

2008-06-22 Thread nickf

Jacob,

Sounds like a plan. :)   I'm hoping we can all peacefully co-exist in
the same town and work together to the benefit of all those who want
to cowork.  I know there's your location in CapHill, I think there are
some in Pioneer Square and recently heard about some in Ballard and
perhaps somewhere else further north.  I'd love to hear what your
experiences have been and just pick your brain.

- Nick


On Jun 19, 4:29 pm, "Jacob Sayles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Since you are local I'd be happy to talk your ear off over beers.
> Welcome to the Seattle Coworking scene!
>
> Jacob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM, nickf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone,
>
> > I just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself to the group.  I am
> > quite new here and a Space Catalyst.  I co-run a web company called
> > Blue Flavor in Fremont, a neighborhood of Seattle.  I am also the
> > owner of Digital Web Magazine, an online magazine for web
> > professionals.
>
> > I think I may know a few people in this group, so hello!  I am in the
> > process of setting up a space at our office, most everything is in
> > place but we're still adding the final touches, setting up a website
> > for the space and so forth.
>
> > I do have a bunch of questions for the group but feel I am a little
> > too green to be firing questions off in my first post.
>
> > Thanks,
> > - Nick
>
> --
> Jacob Sayles
> Co-Founder & Janitorhttp://officenomads.com
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[Coworking] Whitespace Coworking Grand Opening (Seattle)

2008-11-04 Thread nickf

On Monday, November 10th, Blue Flavor will open up its doors to
freelancers and other independent, community-minded creative and
technical people, with the grand opening of Whitespace.
Co-working, Blue Flavor Style

Whitespace is a coworking arrangement for professionals who are
passionate about their work, but tired of working alone at home or in
noisy coffee shops. Think of it as a co-op, artist and tech space.
It’s also a great environment for relaxing and collaborating with like-
minded people.

You are invited to our grand opening event on Friday, November 14th at
the Blue Flavor offices. Please RSVP via Upcoming or Facebook. Hope to
see you there!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=33267351444
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/1318066/

For more info on packages, pricing, scheduling, etc., visit
http://www.rentwhitespace.com

Cheers,
- Nick Finck
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[Coworking] Re: Whitespace Coworking Grand Opening (Seattle)

2008-11-06 Thread nickf

Sheryl Landon wrote:
> Wow, this is so cool.  It is very close and convenient to my home, and I'd be 
> interested in seeing it, and potentially renting a fulltime desk.  However, 
> I'll be out of town on your grand opening night.  When else might I be able 
> to stop by?
>
> I do have a dog I'd like to be able to bring, I understand the prior approval 
> requirement, and will be happy to bring her too. She's extremely quiet and 
> clean ( I know, probably everyone says that, but it's TRUE!)

Sheryl,

We just updated our pet policy.   We mostly put that in there in the
event we have some misbehaving pets or a renter who is allergic :)

Feel free to stop by any day next week save for Friday's.  Also, you
might want to get here before noon or after 1:00 PM as we may not hear
you at the door if we're in the back playing Mario Kart on the Wii ;P

Cheers,
- Nick
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[Coworking] Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-06 Thread nickf

This may be a silly question but I am wondering why there isn't an
official public facing coworking website that isn't a wiki or a blog?
I know we have the great discussion list and an cool wiki packed with
information... but, well, a wiki isn't so easy to navigate and the
content that one might be looking for is sorta spread about the wiki
and such.

I am wondering if it's time to build a public facing website to cater
to audiences who may not understand wikis, blogs, and discussion group
systems?  Or at the very least a site with basic content on coworking
that is geared towards the press, potential coworkers, potential space
catalyst, etc.

Something with simple architecture that answers the basic questions
of:
- What is coworking?
- Who came up with the idea of coworking?
- Why has coworking caught on so well?
- Where can I find a coworking space in my area?
- What type of people cowork?
- What does it take to start a coworking space?
- Who can I contact if I have a question about coworking?
- What coworking resources are out there?
All questions that can be answered on the wiki or here in the
discussion group, but I just feel like the wiki doesn't provide the
ideal user experience for the media and potential renters and space
owners to really grasp the full scope of coworking and the breath at
which it extends to.

This question came to me as I was doing an interview with the local
press today who seemed to be be pretty oblivious to the whole
international movement and lacking I site I could really point them to
to get the gist really quick.

Full disclose, yes I am a user experience professional that creates
websites all day, but I am not looking to land a project like this for
myself.  I don't have a personal interest in promotion or gaining a
cool project.  I don't care who would build or design it.  I am simply
asking the question because I see it as a hurdle here for dealing with
non-technical people on the outside of the coworking community.

Am I crazy here?  Has this already been discussed before (sorry, I
didn't find any threads on this)?  Is this a sore spot?  What were the
reasons behind not doing this?  Did I just step into a holy war
topic? :P


Cheers,
- Nick (A newbie space owner, be gentle)
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-06 Thread nickf



On Nov 6, 6:02 pm, "Tara Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great idea! And we have been down this road before. Our official site is
> actually the blog:http://coworking.infobut I've sketched out stuff for an
> official coworking site (about a year and a half 
> ago):http://flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/
>
> Still looking to do that sorta thing. ;)

When I try to access http://coworking.info/ it redirects me to
http://blog.coworking.info/ was the intent that www. would be the core
public site and blog. would be the blog?  I like what I see in the
sketches.  I think with the number of coworking colleagues who do web
stuff we could get this rolling.  What happened to that movement?  Did
it just stall due to lack of time or something else?

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-06 Thread nickf



On Nov 6, 6:27 pm, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I understand it, a couple of people like Tara and Chris and others have
> direct control over things like the blog and the wiki's design and
> structure, and they're people I think we would largely trust to continue to
> do right by the movement in implementing a new design (with, of course, our
> input along the way), but, they're also probably the least likely to have
> time to allocate for doing so :-)
>
> So we'd need someone to step up and take leadership on it.

I think you hit the nail on the head, Tony.

If there is one thing I have learned through being involved in large
collaborative groups of people its that every group needs a leader of
sorts.  They may not be the person who rolls up their sleeves and does
the heavy lifting, they just need to be the decision maker.

Even if Tara, Chris, and whoever else who may be administrating the
sites and tools don't see themselves as the leaders, the perception of
this community seems to tell me we see them as the individuals in
charge.  It doesn't me we need to have a hierarchy to our structure,
but we need someone to be the decision makers.  W

e also need people to lead various efforts, someone who has time to
properly lead them if we want them to get done. The people that do the
heavy lifting can look to the project leads for direction, and the
group leaders for making the tough decisions.

My 2 cents anyway.

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-07 Thread nickf

Ok, my apologies.  Somehow this thread got turned into "defining what
coworking is" and "what features the website should have"... don't get
me wrong, those are all great discussion that should happen, however,
I want to take this thread back to my original point of a simple
website that helps communicate coworking to the media and first time
visitors, etc.  People who don't have any idea what "coworking" is and
want to learn just the basics.

How we write the actual definition and content that goes onto the site
is another discussion in it's entirety.. same can be said about what
features or tools should exist for coworking... tho I would argue that
those tools are not specifically something that should be introduced
to first time visitors and the press.  What we're starting to do here,
I am afraid, is solutioneer... putting the solution before we fully
explore the problem.  The problem here has two parts 1) clarity in the
concept to non versed individuals and 2) ease of use in finding that
information.

If we look at those problems in detail we'll get a little further
along to defining the goals of such a website, then, and only then can
we bring various solutions to the table for consideration and vet them
against the goals of the site.  If they don't match up then we need to
consider a different solution.  This will help us keep whatever
solution we come up with down to a manageable and achievable size.  We
don't need to over engineer this or have some grandiose site with the
worlds most perfect definition of what coworking is.. we just need a
site that media and the first time users can use, read and understand.

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-07 Thread nickf

On Nov 7, 11:58 am, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I had a moment of hesitation about the term "nation", thinking it might be
> viewed as limited to the US efforts, or those of any specific terrestrial
> nation.

I have to say I agree with Alex here.  Nation really doesn't encompass
it, even tho I know that is what this project was previously referred
to.  It is truly a international or global effort.  I'd hate for us to
get bogged down with the name now that we just started getting
momentum.  I would propose keeping it simple.  www. could be the site
and it could just be called "coworking" ...it will, of course, link to
all the tools and resources out there like the discussion list, wiki,
blog, map, and more.

So the domain layout would be:
- www.coworking.info
- blog.coworking.info
- wiki.coworking.info

for that matter we could put some redirects (if we really wanted to,
but lets not get ahead of ourselves):
- discuss.coworking.info -> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/
- map.coworking.info  -> http://tinyurl.com/coworkingmap

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-07 Thread nickf

On Nov 7, 9:54 am, "Jacob Sayles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Once we've figured out WHAT we
> are building then we can try and work on WHO is going to build it, and
> HOW it will be maintained over time.  We are awash in amazing,
> talented people so I'm confident we can make this happen.

I agree.  We do need to define who will be doing what, etc.  To keep
things simple here are the roles I see we need*:

- Project Lead to manage the overall project
- Information Architect to define the structure of the site and pages
- Copywriter to write the content for the site if needed
- Web Designer to create the visual design of the site
- Front-End Web Developer to build the XHTML/CSS pages and perhaps
some of JavaScript/AJAX (if needed)
- Back-End Web Developer to code the pages if needed, API integration,
setup the CMS (if we need one), etc
- Server/Host Admin to manage and maintain the server
- Web Curator to maintain the site long term, delete any spam, address
bugs found later on, etc

* Note: these rolls could be combined depending on the skills of the
individual volunteering to take on these rolls, I often find designers
who can do front-end dev, or backend-devs who like to do front-end dev
as well, etc.  Certainly we don't need to have one person per roll, in
fact I would like to see the team be as small as possible but
effective.

That said, any takers? :)   I'd put my name in the hat for IA unless
someone else also wants to do it.  I'd put my name in for project lead
but I feel there are probably others out there with more experience
and understanding of coworking than I have.


> P.S. Your space looks great and thank you for inviting me to the news 
> interview.

No problem, I am hoping this local news coverage brings more exposure
to all of coworking in Seattle and beyond.  It was great to have you
there with your experience answering the questions I couldn't as a
newbie coworking space owner.

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-08 Thread nickf

On Nov 7, 2:24 pm, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Nick,
> I think we've identified here the intrinsic problem with creating the
> project we're talking about: it begins to turn our lovely starfish into a
> spider.
>
> This isn't as easy as identifying team roles, having people step up, and
> produce something.

It's certainly not going to be easy and we absolutely must avoid
decision by committee.  I do think, however, if we can put together a
small, for the lack of a better metaphor, SWAT team for this project
and not over-engineer it we'll be able to get something together that
at the very least solves a few core communication problems with the
existing tool set and can be refined later if needed.  I don't see
this as a end-all-be-all website and I don't see this site lasting
forever, i just see it as as reasonable solution to the problems at
hand for the time being given the resources we have and the complexity
of the problems themselves.

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-08 Thread nickf



On Nov 7, 6:09 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been loosely involved in Île Sans Fil, a free wireless community
> group here in Montréal for a few years and just the few messages I've
> seen in this trend remind me of what happened there for years. As
> Nick's second message to the thread higlights, were are already
> diverging into multiple discussions and if we aren't careful it can
> quickly get worse and we all lose interest and/or run out of available
> time to deal with it.

Exactly... lets keep it simple.  If we see such a demand for some
features after it launches then we can add those later.. for now I am
thinking a handful of pages and links to the blog and wiki in a very
carefully detailed content plan.


> What I would suggest is:
>
> - If the blog is on wordpress.com, switch it to our own install of
> WordPress on a shared host space.
> - Come up with a simple minimalistic design, something that's nice and
> clean but not too flashy or in too radical a design direction, so has
> to maximize our chances to agree on something.
> - Configure that new WordPress to have the blog on a subpage and a
> "static" frontpage.
> - Start wiki pages or Google docs to write up and collaborate on a few
> pages, Nick's outline is a very good start.
> - Once the design and new WordPress install are ready, integrate the
> content using WordPress pages.
> - That's it. Quick, rather painless and that way we don't mix up too
> many discussions about direction, features and semantics. I think such
> a site would be a big improvement on our first impression making and
> can super easily be edited if we want to keep fine tuning our content
> and the way we present the movement.

Perfect.  And good idea about Wordpress.  And I think that others on
this thread have already voiced similar approaches.  We all seem to be
on the same page here right?

> In a phase 2, then, we can get into longer discussions about other
> features and more detailed content. I think something like Drupal
> could then be envisioned, with planet like aggregation, member
> profile, space profiles, mapping of spaces based on those profiles.
> (The member and places profiles can also serve for the visa program.)

Oh no.. you used the "D-Word" ...oh my well, so long as I never
have to deal with it or use it, i don't mind :P  Anyway, a discussion
about which CMS to use if we should do a 2nd phase of the site is,
well, a 2nd phase discussion that can happen later. :)

- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-08 Thread nickf

On Nov 7, 2:31 pm, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For what it's worth, if we would be happy building a simple landing page to
> introduce people to coworking and how to learn more and how to get involved,
> then we don't need it to be centralized-- just visible.

Exactly, tho based on my understanding of the content that will be
needed for this, it's probably going to involve a few pages... but we
may be able to make it work on a single page.. we'll see.


> That's what I had in mind when I bought whatiscoworking.com (which currently
> just sports an inside joke as a placeholder).

That's a pretty good domain... and we could use it... tho I still
think the core publisized URL should be simply www.coworking.info


> It can exist separate from the central movement, but loosely joined, and
> perhaps referred to at the top of the wiki and blog ("new to coworking?
> click here")

I was thinking of somewhat the inverse of that, provide some basic
high level content then link to the resources that already exist on
the wiki and in the discussion group for more information.  We just
need to point people to the right information and make sure its
presented in a fashion that is easy to understand.

> Very simple:
>
> 1. What is coworking? (Recommendation: don't define it, describe it.
> Sidestep that landmine.)
> 2. How do I get started?
> 3. How do I help organize?

I would add a few more, mostly associated with the issue that I ran
across that sparked the idea for me to post this very question at the
top of this thread.. those are related to us getting press coverage:

- Who can I talk to about coworking?  i.e. who is our press contact?
who is the subject matter expert?, etc.
- where can I find facts about coworking?  i.e. when was it founded?
who started it?  how many locations & coworkers are there world wide?,
etc.
- Where can I find the coworking press releases? i.e. when a new
location launches or an event is about to occur, etc.

I don't know if these are primary items enough to justify points #4,
#5, and #6 to be added to your list.. maybe instead they are grouped
under you point #1.


> We already have these resources started on the wiki, so I think it's more a
> matter of presentation. Properly holding people's hands through
> understanding what coworking is about.

Yep, exactly... which is why I think the design and IA are very
important.


> Wouldn't be half bad to have something like wtfistwitter.com too, and have
> multiple perspectives.

haha.. hadn't seen that before.  Interesting concept, it would help us
"describe" it for sure.. tho, to the press and frankly my mom.. well,
it needs to be one message that is more clear.  If its confusing to
the press then how are we going to expect them to explain it to their
views; my mom?  Clarity is what is needed... as much as a pain as that
may be.  I do agree with your point tho, "describe" it rather than
"define" it.

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-08 Thread nickf

On Nov 7, 2:19 pm, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> An 8 person team to build 1 or two page site is not something I'm
> comfortable getting involved with. I know how those projects go, and it's
> not a productive environment.

I may have not communicated clearly. I am not saying we should have a
8 person team. I am saying those are the essential roles we need.  It
could be a 2 person team if the individuals involved can wear more
than one hat.  I am all in favor of keeping it as small as possible as
I stated in my last message.

I do feel strongly that we need a skilled designer, not a web person
who can kind of do design.  I also feel we need an IA, and not just
cause that is what I like to do :)   I feel we need these two things
because if we dont we're endanger of building a site that is no better
than what we already have: a technical system that is confusing to use
and not well designed for a optimal user experience.

Just my 2 cents, take em or leave em.
- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-10 Thread nickf

I also noticed there is a page on the wiki for this kind of content.
Rather than have people sign into more systems than they already have
to now (wiki, blog, google maps, google groups), it may be more
effective to just use the wiki for these kinds of links.  What do you
think?

- Nick

P.S. Unfortunately I can't get into Magnolia for any of my past 2
accounts since the system refuses to email me my password reset
email... it claims my acocunt is "not activated yet."  Sucks.


On Nov 8, 9:03 pm, "Tara Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh...and FYI...http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/coworking
>
> is where everyone is supposed to be putting their links to press (whether it
> is a blog or a traditional media source) about coworking. It currently feeds
> into the sidebar. We can make an entire page of these. An alternative is to
> take the Google News feed and create a page, but I get those notifications
> via email and there is alot of non-coworking (meaning our coworking) stuff
> in there, so it would produce a bunch o'crap. Which is why we use the
> ma.gnolia group.
>
> T
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-10 Thread nickf

Ok, I want to add five critical points to the discussion here so we
remain on track.

1) Everything that has been discussed on this thread I have largely
been in agreement with save for a few messages about scope (see below)
that were later identified as something that we can hold off on for
now.  I don't feel anyone has thrown any egos into the mix, I really
value everyone's input into this little discussion and I hope you all
feel the same way about my input.  What I see here is a group of
people who are passionate about this project and coworking ..however,
being passionate about something is much different than being able to
execute on something, what we need is a team (see below) to make it
happen.  If we all can take a moment to get our ducks properly in a
row, we could have a new site up within a few weeks at most... which I
think is what we all want.. and I think none of us here has any intent
to cause harm to the group or to coworking, we all want coworking to
succeed, which is a great feeling to have.

2) The Scope - This does not have to be complicated, but it also
doesn't have to quickly thrown together without fully addressing the
problems that the site is intended to solve.  I think we can set aside
all of the cool "features" until a future release, but I do think we
need to spend some time on the content to make sure it's all properly
worded, organized, and implemented.  In short, lets not rush into this
just to get something together, lets also not over-engineer it.

3) The Message - I really do no want to overlook the press aspects of
the site.  I am not talking about posting or linking to what has
already been said.  I realize we're a starfish organization and there
is no one PR person to contact, however if we are ever going to get
mainstream national and international media recognition (beyond local
media) we are going to address at least some of the typical media
questions on a page.  This means having a paragraph about the history
of coworking... don't assume the press will already know this.  This
means having a paragraph about how to find a local coworking space
owner to refer to as a PR contact for their story... don't assume the
press will know to local at local spaces for press contacts.  In
short, the press are just as important of users on the site as
potential renters or potential space owners.

4) The Domain - I really don't feel we should have to buy any new
domains or use any "branded" domain name for the new public facing
site.  I really feel www.coworking.info would work fine.  Why not use
what we already have?  Or is there some major technical or political
problem with that domain that I am not aware of?  While I like what is
going on on the blog home page as of late, I feel the blog is the
blog, what is on there right now should be on the public facing site.
The blog should show the most recent news/info/events/etc.  In short,
lets keep the domain setup simple and in-line with what we already
have.

5) The Team - If someone wants to lead, or if a few people want to
lead they will have to take it upon themselves and speak up and
request to lead.  I do not want us to nominate people simply because
we see them as the right people for they job.  I heard a few people
step up but no one to lead it as of yet.  This person will need to
commit some time leading the project.  I dont think we need any more
than say 2 or 3 people to run this project, but.. and let me be super
clear here... the people who step up for this project need to actually
be able to do the work needed to finish it.  I have yet to see any
commitments via this thread from Alex, Tony, and/or Tara.. and I'd
ready like to see that :)  Or at least see acknowledgment of those who
do not plan to participate due to lack of time available or other
reasons. :(   In short, lets keep the team super small but highly
effective.

With the above points main I hope we can all come to some sort of
agreement about how to proceed.

Thanks,
- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Links to your space or space in progress

2008-11-11 Thread nickf

> I think I may have missed a few. If you are missing off of that
> sidebar, drop your space name, location and url in the reply
> message and I'll make sure you get added.

Whitespace
920 North 34th St., Suite 300
Seattle, WA 98103
http://rentwhitespace.com/

Thanks,
- Nick
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[Coworking] Re: Committment Card

2008-11-21 Thread nickf

I do think a case can be made for this in print form.  Thinking that
most of the time your interacting with someone in person, your not
near a computer.  Also, one would think "why not just get that
person's business card?" often they don't have one on them.  Having a
card that they can fill out and hand back to you allows you to capture
the information.  I think the bigger question is, is it too much
information to ask them to fill out on the spot?

Assuming the membership type, billing, and how they will help
questions are actually just checkboxes, I would wonder if its really
of value to capture their twitter ID when you already ask for their
email and phone.  I also wonder if company and title are really
needed.  Sometimes the person doesn't want to be represreted by the
company they work for in the communication (i.e. maybe they work for a
large corp but are planning to quit and go freelance).  My suggestion
would be to have just Name, email and phone... maybe a checkbox to
indicate if the phone is home, mobile, or work so you can anticipate
how they may respond when you call and what are the best times to call
at that number.  So:

Name: __
E-Mail: __
Phone:   [ ] Work  [ ] Mobile  [ ] Home

Membership Type:
[ ] Full Time  [ ] Part Time  [ ] Day Tripper

Preferred Billing:
[ ] Annual  [ ] 6 Months  [ ] Quarterly  [ ] Monthly

I can help with:
[ ] Spreading the Word   [ ] Recruiting Members  [ ] Planing Events

Thats just my 2 cents... take it or leave it.  I also used a bit
lighter wording.  Having the "I will" is a commitment, but thinking
about the context of handing this to someone in a social party /
networking event atmosphre, thats a pretty solid commitment to make on
the spot when you may be meeting a coworking space owner for the first
time. I think it's better to ease into.  Get a feel for their interest
then pursue them from there.

- Nick

On Nov 20, 5:06 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To answer your questions:
>
> 1.  Pricing - I have developed an information packet complete with a
> fact sheet, a price guide, a business card,  a survey and the
> committment card.
> 2.  Committment - I print these cards on postcard paper to hand out at
> events where creatives are likely to attend;  and hand them a packet.
> If the individual shows interest in obtaining a space I have them fill
> out the card on spot.  It allows me to collect the information quickly
> without a delayed response; it also prevents them from never getting
> back with me.  I plan to incorporate this into the blog very soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jodi Dean
> OurSpace Founder
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking website that isn't a wiki?

2008-11-21 Thread nickf

I am interested in what Jeremy is working on as well... perhaps some
of the tools could be incorporated into my wireframes for the concept*
I am drafting up?

* Don't worry, I am just doodling up some ideas that came from this
thread.

- Nick


On Nov 21, 8:57 am, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Cool! Will you be sharing more specifics about what you're building so we
> can give you some feedback along the way?
>
> Tony
> New Work City
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