Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Andy Stratton
We just make sure they've signed our agreement. I'm under the impression if
they agree and don't have it and something happens they are just personally
liable...

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Julie Scanlon wrote:

> Thank you for the quick responses!To clarify, the landlord is right??
> How do you handle day use/ drop ins?
>
> Julie
> 949.682.9141
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Alex Hillman <
> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same as others have recommended in Philly.
>>
>> I highly recommend The Hartford, have sent many to our agent. They "get"
>> us and our needs, and will help you navigate the local/landlord
>> requirements.
>>
>> Preston-Patterson Co., Inc.
>> P.O. Box 244
>> Conshohocken, PA 19428
>> Phone: (610) 834-0090, ext. 101
>>
>> Ask for Stuart, tell him Independents Hall in Philly sent you.
>>
>> -Alex
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Chad Ballantyne <
>> c...@thecreativespace.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here at The Creative Space Canada.  Members have to have their own
>>> insurance - all we have to do is carry liability for the space.
>>>
>>> Chad
>>>
>>> On 2011-07-26, at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:
>>>
>>> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement
>>> states (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
>>> responsible for providing their own liability insurance.
>>>
>>> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
>>> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
>>> firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
>>> liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
>>> anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
>>>
>>> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and
>>> covers more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood,
>>> etc.). Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention,
>>> we got a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
>>>
>>> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
>>> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy Stratton
>>> Web / Developer / Designer
>>> 443-623-6835
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon >> > wrote:
>>>
 How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?

 We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are
 leasing, they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members
 shall obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy
 protecting Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this
 insurance we would only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that 
 would
 be pointless.  How can we have this work?

 I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
 membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
 protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
 the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
 membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
 to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.

 I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?

 Thank you!
 Julie
 Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA



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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Hillman
Every landlord has their own requirements. Yours may not yet have taken the
time to understand your business.

I'd try to explain to them how things work - if they don't "get it', they
might not be the right landlords for you. If that's the case, this could be
a blessing in disguise, since their mismatched expectations of you and your
business are likely rear their ugly head later on.

-Alex

/ah
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coworking in philadelphia


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Julie Scanlon wrote:

> Thank you for the quick responses!To clarify, the landlord is right??
> How do you handle day use/ drop ins?
>
> Julie
> 949.682.9141
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Alex Hillman <
> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same as others have recommended in Philly.
>>
>> I highly recommend The Hartford, have sent many to our agent. They "get"
>> us and our needs, and will help you navigate the local/landlord
>> requirements.
>>
>> Preston-Patterson Co., Inc.
>> P.O. Box 244
>> Conshohocken, PA 19428
>> Phone: (610) 834-0090, ext. 101
>>
>> Ask for Stuart, tell him Independents Hall in Philly sent you.
>>
>> -Alex
>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Chad Ballantyne <
>> c...@thecreativespace.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here at The Creative Space Canada.  Members have to have their own
>>> insurance - all we have to do is carry liability for the space.
>>>
>>> Chad
>>>
>>> On 2011-07-26, at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:
>>>
>>> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement
>>> states (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
>>> responsible for providing their own liability insurance.
>>>
>>> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
>>> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
>>> firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
>>> liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
>>> anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
>>>
>>> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and
>>> covers more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood,
>>> etc.). Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention,
>>> we got a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
>>>
>>> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
>>> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy Stratton
>>> Web / Developer / Designer
>>> 443-623-6835
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon >> > wrote:
>>>
 How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?

 We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are
 leasing, they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members
 shall obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy
 protecting Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this
 insurance we would only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that 
 would
 be pointless.  How can we have this work?

 I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
 membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
 protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
 the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
 membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
 to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.

 I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?

 Thank you!
 Julie
 Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA



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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Julie Scanlon
Thank you for the quick responses!To clarify, the landlord is right??
How do you handle day use/ drop ins?

Julie
949.682.9141


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Alex Hillman
wrote:

> Same as others have recommended in Philly.
>
> I highly recommend The Hartford, have sent many to our agent. They "get" us
> and our needs, and will help you navigate the local/landlord requirements.
>
> Preston-Patterson Co., Inc.
> P.O. Box 244
> Conshohocken, PA 19428
> Phone: (610) 834-0090, ext. 101
>
> Ask for Stuart, tell him Independents Hall in Philly sent you.
>
> -Alex
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Chad Ballantyne  > wrote:
>
>> Same here at The Creative Space Canada.  Members have to have their own
>> insurance - all we have to do is carry liability for the space.
>>
>> Chad
>>
>> On 2011-07-26, at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:
>>
>> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement
>> states (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
>> responsible for providing their own liability insurance.
>>
>> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
>> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
>> firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
>> liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
>> anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
>>
>> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and
>> covers more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood,
>> etc.). Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention,
>> we got a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
>>
>> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
>>
>> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
>> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
>>
>> --
>> Andy Stratton
>> Web / Developer / Designer
>> 443-623-6835
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?
>>>
>>> We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are
>>> leasing, they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members
>>> shall obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy
>>> protecting Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this
>>> insurance we would only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would
>>> be pointless.  How can we have this work?
>>>
>>> I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
>>> membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
>>> protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
>>> the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
>>> membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
>>> to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.
>>>
>>> I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Julie
>>> Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> www.thecreativespace.ca
>>
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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Hillman
Same as others have recommended in Philly.

I highly recommend The Hartford, have sent many to our agent. They "get" us
and our needs, and will help you navigate the local/landlord requirements.

   Preston-Patterson Co., Inc.
P.O. Box 244
Conshohocken, PA 19428
Phone: (610) 834-0090, ext. 101

Ask for Stuart, tell him Independents Hall in Philly sent you.

-Alex
/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Chad Ballantyne
wrote:

> Same here at The Creative Space Canada.  Members have to have their own
> insurance - all we have to do is carry liability for the space.
>
> Chad
>
> On 2011-07-26, at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:
>
> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement
> states (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
> responsible for providing their own liability insurance.
>
> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
> firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
> liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
> anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
>
> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and
> covers more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood,
> etc.). Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention,
> we got a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
>
> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
>
> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
>
> --
> Andy Stratton
> Web / Developer / Designer
> 443-623-6835
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon 
> wrote:
>
>> How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?
>>
>> We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are leasing,
>> they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members shall
>> obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy protecting
>> Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this insurance we would
>> only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would be pointless.  How
>> can we have this work?
>>
>> I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
>> membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
>> protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
>> the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
>> membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
>> to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.
>>
>> I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Julie
>> Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Chad Ballantyne
Same here at The Creative Space Canada.  Members have to have their own 
insurance - all we have to do is carry liability for the space.

Chad

On 2011-07-26, at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:

> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement states 
> (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is responsible 
> for providing their own liability insurance.
> 
> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio 
> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage firm 
> here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general liability 
> that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have anyway; and 
> I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
> 
> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and covers 
> more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood, etc.). 
> Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention, we got a 
> good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
> 
> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
> 
> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of 
> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
> 
> --
> Andy Stratton
> Web / Developer / Designer
> 443-623-6835
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon  
> wrote:
> How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?
> 
> We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are leasing, 
> they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members shall 
> obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy protecting 
> Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this insurance we would 
> only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would be pointless.  How 
> can we have this work?
> 
> I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the 
> membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability 
> protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with 
> the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym 
> membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have 
> to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.  
> 
> I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thank you!
> Julie 
> Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Andy Stratton
And I just misquoted you about sub-lessors; sorry hands faster than brain!

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Andy Stratton wrote:

> We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement
> states (very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
> responsible for providing their own liability insurance.
>
> I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
> underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
> firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
> liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
> anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.
>
> Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and
> covers more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood,
> etc.). Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention,
> we got a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.
>
> Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/
>
> Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
> Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...
>
> --
> Andy Stratton
> Web / Developer / Designer
> 443-623-6835
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon 
> wrote:
>
>> How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?
>>
>> We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are leasing,
>> they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members shall
>> obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy protecting
>> Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this insurance we would
>> only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would be pointless.  How
>> can we have this work?
>>
>> I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
>> membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
>> protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
>> the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
>> membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
>> to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.
>>
>> I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Julie
>> Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA
>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Andy Stratton
We do not have sub-leasees, we have members. Our membership agreement states
(very much inspired by Beehive Baltimore's) states each member is
responsible for providing their own liability insurance.

I have liability insurance as the Leasee, which I got through an Ohio
underwriting firm. Ohio Casualty is the name I believe...but a brokerage
firm here did it. As a freelancer/small business I have $1M in general
liability that's less than $300/year. It's something members should have
anyway; and I'd technically require it to cover your butt.

Ours was a little under $800 for the year, which still wasn't bad and covers
more than $1M and covers other costs if something goes crazy (flood, etc.).
Luckily our landlord is very lax and just didn't pay much attention, we got
a good deal and I think he mainly just doesn't want to be bothered.

Hope this helps, http://www.ohiocasualty-ins.com/

Doesn't look like they do CA but maybe they could point you to an arm of
Libery Mutual Group that does? (or another vendor)...

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Julie Scanlon wrote:

> How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?
>
> We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are leasing,
> they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members shall
> obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy protecting
> Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this insurance we would
> only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would be pointless.  How
> can we have this work?
>
> I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
> membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
> protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
> the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
> membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
> to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.
>
> I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?
>
> Thank you!
> Julie
> Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA
>
>
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[Coworking] HELP! liability insurance:(

2011-07-26 Thread Julie Scanlon
How did you manage insurance coverage for landlords?

We are just at the last point of negotiation for the space we are leasing,
they are insisting on language saying that "Leasee and all members shall
obtain and keep in force a Commercial General Liability policy protecting
Lessee and Lessor..."I think if i had to require this insurance we would
only be sub-lessors to full blown businesses - that would be pointless.  How
can we have this work?

I have a general liability policy. My lawyer and I are creating the
membership agreements that will have more assurances regarding liability
protection.  He said my agreements must include a waiver of liability, with
the member agreeing to hold harmless language similar to that of a gym
membership for short term clients, and if they are long term they will have
to provide certificates for business insurance coverage.

I am in Orange County Ca.  Any ideas?

Thank you!
Julie
Collab Space, Costa Mesa CA

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