Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th
So do you fill out a form and send 30$ to the library of congress Every time you send an e-mail Jim ? You don't even have a "(C) 2001 Jim Choate" in your sig. Neil M. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interl.net/~njohnson PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC - Original Message - From: "Declan McCullagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th > You would have a valid point if the Beasty Boys were in the habit of > sending MP3s of their latest hits to cypherpunks. > > -Declan > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:33:37AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > > > Private property != intellecutal property. If anything, my "private > > > property" claim is stronger than your IP one, since the bits are on MY > > > server. :) > > > > Then Napster should have no problem since 'possession' is 9/10's of the > > law... > > > > > > > >We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their > >authority. > >D.H. Lawrence > > > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate > >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > > > > >
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Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > You would have a valid point if the Beasty Boys were in the habit of > sending MP3s of their latest hits to cypherpunks. What the hell does 'cypherpunks' have to do with it? Come on, spell it out... 'implied consent'? Where? Who says? You? You don't speak for me, and I certainly never gave consent, implied or otherwise, and I operate one of the nodes. If anyone has a 'right' to decide what the policies are or aren't it's the people operating the nodes. Not the users. No, there is no 'implied' anything. Certainly nothing that can be construed to mean that every piece of material sent to this list is in the public domain. Your claim is equivalent to saying if somebody comes and talks about their technology at one of the physical meet they are 'implicitly' giving permission to use. Not. Simply because a discussion is 'public' doesn't make it 'public domain'. We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their authority. D.H. Lawrence The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
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Re: CDR: RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks
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Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th
You would have a valid point if the Beasty Boys were in the habit of sending MP3s of their latest hits to cypherpunks. -Declan On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:33:37AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > Private property != intellecutal property. If anything, my "private > > property" claim is stronger than your IP one, since the bits are on MY > > server. :) > > Then Napster should have no problem since 'possession' is 9/10's of the > law... > > > >We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their >authority. >D.H. Lawrence > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > >
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Re: Pleading the 5th
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Private property != intellecutal property. If anything, my "private > property" claim is stronger than your IP one, since the bits are on MY > server. :) Then Napster should have no problem since 'possession' is 9/10's of the law... We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their authority. D.H. Lawrence The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Jim Bell Trial: Second Day
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Second Day: Jim Bell trial [...] > The next witness was Hilda Wong Muramoto who is a subpoena manager for @Home > Corporation. In direct testimony she stated that Bell had a cable modem > account, that the "DNS designation and sub-domain" as well as the IP address > were hard-wired, and that the account did not cover dial-up connections. > She said that the IP address was 24.16.209.166 and that the DNS number > was C1099371-A. The DNS name that was captured in the e-mail that Bell > allegedly sent to cypherpunks was encrv1.wa.home.com. She claimed that > those "numbers" could not appear on anyone else's e-mail. "subpoena manager"? What in Tacoma is a "subpoena manager"? Do subpoenas need managing? It sounds like they employ someone just to get sued. Presumably that means she is a PR clone or a lawyer. Why should a PR type know anything about DNS & SMTP, any more than I (or Choate) should be an expert on the law? If I was a grumpy judge and a company sent me a "subpoena manager" I would be very tempted to send them right back & get someone who knew what they are talking about. Ken
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