Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread j...@rejon.org
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On Mar 11, 2011 7:09 AM, "a.l.e"  wrote:
> hi
>
>> Apparently, the only current solution is to manually block the
>> offending accounts. The URL for this would be
>>
>> http://identi.ca/group/lgm/members
>>
>> And individually click "block" on each spammer account. Of course,
>> only group admins can do this.
>>
>> I can take care of weeding out the offending accounts regularly, if
>> there's no other solution to the spam problem. (I would need admin
>> access to the group -- our account is @manufacturaind)
>
> i've tried to block all offending accounts, but this does not seem to
remove their past messages with references to the lgm group.
>
> ... it took about three hours...
>
> ciao
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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread Jon Nordby
On 11 March 2011 15:04, Schrijver  wrote:
>>
>>
>> just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i can 
>> interact with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
>> i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can get it to 
>> notify me of the issues.
>
>
> It can. I suppose we could even set up something that automatically notifies 
> the list if an issue is posted.
> Is that a good idea?
Please don't subscribe the list directly, let people decide if they
want to follow this or not. If you want to require people having a
launchpad account, you can have a separate mailinglist "create-bugs"
and subscribe that one. This is the customary approach in most FOSS
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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi
  
> > > just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i
> > > can interact with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
> > > i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can
> > > get it to notify me of the issues.
> > 
> > 
> > It can. I suppose we could even set up something that automatically
> > notifies the list if an issue is posted. Is that a good idea?
> 
> yes, that would be nice

and we should also be able to see if a ticket relates to the lgm or not.

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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi eric,
 
> > just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i
> > can interact with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
> > i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can
> > get it to notify me of the issues.
> 
> 
> It can. I suppose we could even set up something that automatically
> notifies the list if an issue is posted. Is that a good idea?

yes, that would be nice

ciao
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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi

> Apparently, the only current solution is to manually block the
> offending accounts. The URL for this would be
> 
> http://identi.ca/group/lgm/members
> 
> And individually click "block" on each spammer account. Of course,
> only group admins can do this.
> 
> I can take care of weeding out the offending accounts regularly, if 
> there's no other solution to the spam problem. (I would need admin 
> access to the group -- our account is @manufacturaind)

i've tried to block all offending accounts, but this does not seem to remove 
their past messages with references to the lgm group.

... it took about three hours...

ciao
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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread Schrijver
> 
> 
> just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i can interact 
> with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
> i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can get it to 
> notify me of the issues.


It can. I suppose we could even set up something that automatically notifies 
the list if an issue is posted.
Is that a good idea?
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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread Jon Nordby
On 11 March 2011 14:56, a.l.e  wrote:
> just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i can interact 
> with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
> i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can get it to 
> notify me of the issues.
>
Yes, you can subscribe to email notifications for individual issues or
all issues in a project.

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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi

> Or is there any functionality of the mailing list that you need and
> can not be provided by Launchpad?

no, i just don't really want to track another platform...

i'm getting a lot emails, but at least they get all into my inbox and i can 
answer to them in a fast way.

just don't expect me to to watch that page regularly... but if i can interact 
with it with my email client, well, i'm fine with it.
i'll register to that tracker on launchpad and i'll check if i can get it to 
notify me of the issues.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Gregory Pittman

On 03/11/2011 08:32 AM, Yuval Levy wrote:

On March 11, 2011 08:00:59 AM Louis Desjardins wrote:

My take is I would prefer that the surroundings graphics change from year
to year but not the logo and not the type. Something has to remain
consistent. It's branding.


+1

This reinvention of the wheel at every LGM edition is a waste of resources
that brands LGM as immature.



To me it is far more important to have the PR and Pledgie and Website and
Call for participation out and Sponsors than any other consideration at
this point in time


yes, freeze the brand for the next five years and focus development of those
areas that really adds long-term value to LGM rather than wasting resources on
the creation of the next disposable brand.


I'm in favor of a large element of constancy, but also that there be 
some creative play to keep each year distinct, and something more than 
just the color scheme.


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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread ricardo lafuente
Apparently, the only current solution is to manually block the offending 
accounts. The URL for this would be


http://identi.ca/group/lgm/members

And individually click "block" on each spammer account. Of course, only 
group admins can do this.


I can take care of weeding out the offending accounts regularly, if 
there's no other solution to the spam problem. (I would need admin 
access to the group -- our account is @manufacturaind)


On 03/11/2011 08:17 AM, a.l.e wrote:

hi ginger,


One other point about the website. Looks like the !lgm identi.ca
group is attracting some persistent spammers. Which means that the
feed on the sidebar of the site looks pretty unpleasant.


i've searched if there is a way to avoid spam on identica and didn't find any 
way.

i've built a filter on the feed reader which deletes posts from known spammers.
but i have to add each of them individually.

if anybody knows of an heuristic to catch them, please share it.

please notify to me if you notice a spam comment on the lgm website, i will 
remove it as soon as possible.

ciao
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Re: [CREATE] the lgm2011 colors are the same as 2010

2011-03-11 Thread Camille Bissuel
Sorry for that ... but I never thought that HTML could be unaccessible 
(tags do not help semantic ?), and that's simply the default for emails 
in most mail client today...




To return the subject, I was only proposing hands after Jon's ask for. 
My intend was to make small colors changes to give the website a "2011" 
flavor, not to rebrand LGM or Create, with Alex approval.


So, after reactions, I drop it out, and will only propose news SVG 
backgrounds to Alex.


Best regards,
Camille



Le 11/03/2011 14:35, Yuval Levy a écrit :

On March 11, 2011 03:31:34 AM Camille Bissuel wrote:





could you please send plain text messages and not html messages? html and its
formatting are unaccessible.  I can't read what you write.

Yuv



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Re: [CREATE] the lgm2011 colors are the same as 2010

2011-03-11 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 11, 2011 03:31:34 AM Camille Bissuel wrote:
> 
> 

could you please send plain text messages and not html messages? html and its 
formatting are unaccessible.  I can't read what you write.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 11, 2011 08:00:59 AM Louis Desjardins wrote:
> My take is I would prefer that the surroundings graphics change from year
> to year but not the logo and not the type. Something has to remain
> consistent. It's branding.

+1

This reinvention of the wheel at every LGM edition is a waste of resources 
that brands LGM as immature.


> To me it is far more important to have the PR and Pledgie and Website and
> Call for participation out and Sponsors than any other consideration at
> this point in time

yes, freeze the brand for the next five years and focus development of those 
areas that really adds long-term value to LGM rather than wasting resources on 
the creation of the next disposable brand.

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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 11, 2011 03:46:12 AM a.l.e wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:16 -0800
> 
> "j...@rejon.org"  wrote:
> > I was having a difficult time keeping track of what needs to be
> > completed so I created a launchpad project to track our releases and
> > really handle managing the project and lgm details:
> > 
> > https://launchpad.net/create-project/+milestone/1.0
> > 
> > Please do sign-up on launchpad and help us make it good.
> 
> JON personally, i have the feeling that this list is a better place to
> track the type of issue we hare having.

I find Jon's choice of tracking tool to track issues more sensible than 
misusing a mailing list for it.  Mailing list messages get buried in time so 
older important issues get less attention than newer and less important ones.

Moreover, the functionality of the mailing list is preserved.  I can receive 
email notifications from Launchpad and reply to them exactly like with a 
mailing list.

Or is there any functionality of the mailing list that you need and can not be 
provided by Launchpad?

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Schrijver
> My take is I would prefer that the surroundings graphics change from year to 
> year but not the logo and not the type. Something has to remain consistent. 
> It's branding.
> 

I agree :)

As to the surroundings:
What  I did for the video is that I used the logo as is,
but presented it on a soft pink background,
in line with the Brussels proposed branding device of temporary tattoos.

Also, FOSSDEM presents itself as a giant shriveled brain,
but creative people can not seperate mind and body
so I thought, yeah, the body, pink, cool.

Until I realised… only white people have pink bodies!
So it’s maybe not such a good colour after all
or it should be amongst a set of different skin colours used :)

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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread Louis Desjardins
2011/3/11 a.l.e 

> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:16 -0800
> "j...@rejon.org"  wrote:
>
> > Hi guys, been working on the conference announcement and press today
> > and realized we have some parts to complete. We now have the paypal
> > address and will make that live as soon as my friend Mark who does
> > pledgie adds the video support so the video can be attached.
> >
> > I was having a difficult time keeping track of what needs to be
> > completed so I created a launchpad project to track our releases and
> > really handle managing the project and lgm details:
> >
> > https://launchpad.net/create-project/+milestone/1.0
> >
> > Please do sign-up on launchpad and help us make it good. Louis, ALE,
> > Nathan, Eric, Brad and myself have been working hard on pulling
> > together details, but I think we are still missing some pieces and
> > need to test a bit more before launching. Plus, Fridays suck for
> > releases!
>

Hi Jon,

The server tells us we're going to get an email with a confirmation number
but the email I got was to recreate the passweord, with no confirmation
number. I cannot complete the procedure to login.

Cheers !

Louis


>
> JON personally, i have the feeling that this list is a better place to
> track the type of issue we hare having.
>

Dear Ale,

At this point I would suggest not to discuss too much on the tools we need
to track down the issues. We have lots to do and any way to help us keep
track of LGM tasks is ok with me. I have a hard time keeping up with tons of
emails so a page like that is fine with me. I only have an issue getting in
now but as soon as this detail is cleared we can use this! :) My 2-pennies !

Louis

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Louis Desjardins
2011/3/11 a.l.e 

> hi
>
> > a.l.e and Alex wanted to keep it simple, but we certainly can change
> > colors. Have you got a preferred one ? :p I've started to work on
> > additional SVG backgrounds too, and hope to push them quickly.
> >
> > I have to go this morning, but will be working on the website this
> > afternoon (pledgie button + SVG backgounds at least). Please send me
> > the pledgie campaign link as soon as it is ready !
>
> alex was working on some tweaking of the design.
>
> since the artwork is it's creation, i'd suggest you to get in touch with
> him before changing it on the LGM site.
>

Also, with the LGM board we have agreed that from now on the LGM brand would
be the one created by Alex.

If you guys want to change that decision, the colors it has to be consistent
and done in the earliest possible stages of the organisation (that is, at
the end of the previous LGM !!! :) aha! ). I am already using that color for
business cards, invitations letters and advertising in the magazine of one
of our partners, ICGQ. It could of course be changed but if yes, then do it
quick and agree on it quick too. I am about to produce the t-shirts ! :) And
the website is already up with that color.

My take is I would prefer that the surroundings graphics change from year to
year but not the logo and not the type. Something has to remain consistent.
It's branding.

One thing to consider is if we are going to change color every year, will
the LGM brand be well served by such a decision.

To me it is far more important to have the PR and Pledgie and Website and
Call for participation out and Sponsors than any other consideration at this
point in time, especially because we are not that numerous to work on all
those things. If everyone gives his opinion on the color of the logo we're
in for a long round here.

As always, I am ready to be convinced by good arguments but time is running
low. :)

Cheers!

Louis


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Re: [CREATE] Conference Press and Announcement + Launchpad UPDATE.

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:16 -0800
"j...@rejon.org"  wrote:

> Hi guys, been working on the conference announcement and press today
> and realized we have some parts to complete. We now have the paypal
> address and will make that live as soon as my friend Mark who does
> pledgie adds the video support so the video can be attached.
> 
> I was having a difficult time keeping track of what needs to be
> completed so I created a launchpad project to track our releases and
> really handle managing the project and lgm details:
> 
> https://launchpad.net/create-project/+milestone/1.0
> 
> Please do sign-up on launchpad and help us make it good. Louis, ALE,
> Nathan, Eric, Brad and myself have been working hard on pulling
> together details, but I think we are still missing some pieces and
> need to test a bit more before launching. Plus, Fridays suck for
> releases!

JON personally, i have the feeling that this list is a better place to track 
the type of issue we hare having.

ciao
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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi

> We can probably copy over the Projects content, and
> easily create an About page based on the one from 2010 in combination
> with the "A review of LGM 2010" article to replace or augment the
> "Highlights of LGM2009" section. Contact page is also missing, that is
> something I expect to be there.
> Press and Sponsors, will probably come after the announcement?

jon as created an about page and i have add the contact page.

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Re: [CREATE] the lgm2011 colors are the same as 2010

2011-03-11 Thread Camille Bissuel


  
  
Hi a.l.e

personally, I was thinking to keep the same identity Alex build, and
just change secondary elements colors (from light yellow to light
green for example), adding new background images.
Plus we do not have a lot of time, so I don't believe Jon want to
restart from scratch.

I really have to go, see you later.

Camille

Le 11/03/2011 09:31, a.l.e a écrit :

  hi


  
we need a new style for lgm2011
http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011

  
  
are we sure that we need a new style?

we have a meeting which happens each year with the "same" people... shouldn't we also show some continuity on the website?

some tweaking is imo ok, but do we really need a new style?
is it a priority to be marked with hi importance?
personally, i don't think so.

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[CREATE] the lgm2011 colors are the same as 2010

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi

> we need a new style for lgm2011
> http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011

are we sure that we need a new style?

we have a meeting which happens each year with the "same" people... shouldn't 
we also show some continuity on the website?

some tweaking is imo ok, but do we really need a new style?
is it a priority to be marked with hi importance?
personally, i don't think so.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Camille Bissuel


  
  
Ok, I will see with alex !

Le 11/03/2011 09:24, a.l.e a écrit :

  hi


  
a.l.e and Alex wanted to keep it simple, but we certainly can change
colors. Have you got a preferred one ? :p I've started to work on
additional SVG backgrounds too, and hope to push them quickly.

I have to go this morning, but will be working on the website this
afternoon (pledgie button + SVG backgounds at least). Please send me
the pledgie campaign link as soon as it is ready !

  
  
alex was working on some tweaking of the design.

since the artwork is it's creation, i'd suggest you to get in touch with him before changing it on the LGM site.


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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi

> a.l.e and Alex wanted to keep it simple, but we certainly can change
> colors. Have you got a preferred one ? :p I've started to work on
> additional SVG backgrounds too, and hope to push them quickly.
> 
> I have to go this morning, but will be working on the website this
> afternoon (pledgie button + SVG backgounds at least). Please send me
> the pledgie campaign link as soon as it is ready !

alex was working on some tweaking of the design.

since the artwork is it's creation, i'd suggest you to get in touch with him 
before changing it on the LGM site.


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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread a.l.e
hi ginger,

> One other point about the website. Looks like the !lgm identi.ca
> group is attracting some persistent spammers. Which means that the
> feed on the sidebar of the site looks pretty unpleasant.

i've searched if there is a way to avoid spam on identica and didn't find any 
way.

i've built a filter on the feed reader which deletes posts from known spammers.
but i have to add each of them individually.

if anybody knows of an heuristic to catch them, please share it.

please notify to me if you notice a spam comment on the lgm website, i will 
remove it as soon as possible.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-11 Thread Camille Bissuel


  
  
Sure ;)

a.l.e and Alex wanted to keep it simple, but we certainly can change
colors. Have you got a preferred one ? :p
I've started to work on additional SVG backgrounds too, and hope to
push them quickly.

I have to go this morning, but will be working on the website this
afternoon (pledgie button + SVG backgounds at least).
Please send me the pledgie campaign link as soon as it is ready ! 

See you soon
Camille


Le 11/03/2011 06:17, j...@rejon.org a écrit :

  Cool, can we pick some new colors for this year?

https://launchpad.net/create-project/+milestone/1.0

Jon

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Camille Bissuel  wrote:

  
Hi all,

With help of Alex Leray, I've started a new pledgie button for this year,
but it's not yet finished (we will need the pledgie campain to start to
actually make it work).
The website need some more improvments too, but it's functionnal now.

Please let us know ;)

Camille (yagraph)


Le 10/03/2011 02:14, Schrijver a écrit :

Hey Jon,

Share && feel your concern

This is the status,

the possibility to submit talks via Wiki: check
a video to go with the pledgie: check
the lgm 2011 website: check

pledgie: Jon I think you’ve got that setup right?
press release: brad philips should have a rough draft done in a few hours
if you want to help read and critique, give him a shout

Then, if all’s well, tomorrow you can all help by mailing/faxing the press
release to proper parties,
and sharing the pledgie!

E

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Hey guys,
2 months to LGM2011 now!
It looks like the March 1th deadline for the pledgie and call for
papers has slipped? What is going on, do we have everything under
control? What are the issues blocking these items, how can people
help?

If we expect to get people (especially from Europe) to LGM that are
not our core projects/people (they already know about LGM) to come,
announcements need to go our pretty fast now. Most people prefer to
plan conferences well in advance.

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