Re: [CREATE] RIP Igor Novikov

2021-03-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

I'm not sure if I can. I do not entirely belong to myself these days.

Alex

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:16 PM Timothée Giet  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> That's a sad news. My sincere condolences to his family.
>
> Of course we can do an "in memoriam" at this year's online LGM.
> @Alexandre: Would you be able to do it ?
>
> Timothée
>
>
> Le 21/03/2021 à 02:35, Alexandre Prokoudine a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > Igor Novikov passed away this Monday. I have confirmation from both
> > his elder son Albert (CCed) and his wife Natalia.
> >
> > A question to LGM orgs: do you think you could do some sort of "in
> > memoriam" at online LGM this year, same as we did in 2019 for Peter
> > Linnell?
> >
> > Alex
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[CREATE] RIP Igor Novikov

2021-03-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hello,

Igor Novikov passed away this Monday. I have confirmation from both
his elder son Albert (CCed) and his wife Natalia.

A question to LGM orgs: do you think you could do some sort of "in
memoriam" at online LGM this year, same as we did in 2019 for Peter
Linnell?

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Re: [CREATE] ORA topic presentation for Online LGM 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
пт, 15 мая 2020 г., 18:56 InkLab App :

>
> For 'layer effects' : do you mean, non destructive filters? If so, this
> was a very interesting problem that I have been considering for a while,
> that is, implementing arbitrary functions into a file format. IT seems very
> difficult to do safely, but I did have a few ideas. I would love to hear
> your thoughts on this. The same idea could be applied, in a more limited
> scope, to define generalized layer filters.
>

By the way, I think we missed an important stage here: (re)defining the
goals of ORA.

It used to be a long-term archival file format. Then suddenly it turned out
to be a somewhat convenient file format for basic multi-layer project data
exchange between applications (Krita, GIMP, and MyPaint were first to
implement support for it, I think).

At some point, Krita started pushing it forward with new features in their
own namespace (extra blending modes). Other projects haven't followed suit
yet, as far as I can tell.

So what do we actually want ORA to be and why? If we want it to become a
lingua franca multilayer project file format w/ basic vector graphics, a
kinda libre PSD, then it makes sense to list certain expectations based on
real-life use cases _before_ jumping to features implementation.

Also, if/when we add features like layer effects, how much
(many?) roundtripping errors can we realistically live with? Because you
_will_ get those unless you standardize a fixed set of effects
between applications (settings and semantics, rendering model etc.).

P.S. As for speed etc., here you go:
https://blender.stackexchange.com/a/148466/213 (pointed out by Troy).

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Re: [CREATE] CREATE Digest, Vol 164, Issue 4

2020-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 6:41 PM Johann ELSASS wrote:
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> I would favor backward compatibility. In this case, it would be better to 
> keep the layer stack structure as it is and provide a PNG in all cases. New 
> features would be either attributes, nodes inside existing nodes, or other 
> XML files within the archive.
>
> To Alex: For the same reason, I am not in favor either of changing the format 
> of the images to EXR. Though as I side note, we can specify not to compress 
> PNG files within the archive, as PNG is already somewhat ZIP compressed. That 
> can improve speed a bit.

Ditching PNG in favor of EXR has nothing to do with speed and
everything to do with how you store pixel data.

Simply put, PNG is as much popular as it is an inferior file format.

> I am not sure what you mean by affine transformations as masks.

Think non-destructive rotation.

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Re: [CREATE] ORA topic presentation for Online LGM 2020

2020-05-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 6:56 PM InkLab App wrote:

> For 'layer effects' : do you mean, non destructive filters? If so, this was a 
> very interesting problem that I have been considering for a while, that is, 
> implementing arbitrary functions into a file format.

Before the feature craze :) goes any further, may I suggest two ideas
for OpenRaster?

1. Drop using PNG in favor of EXR to store the bitmap data.

2. Consider designing a file format that is better suited for fast
saving/loading. See e.g. Ogawa file format for Alembic.

Rationale: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alembic-discussion/FTG1HuuO_qA
Source code: https://github.com/alembic/alembic/tree/master/lib/Alembic/Ogawa

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Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster.org now has a spot on KDE's gitlab instance.

2019-06-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 3:16 PM Wolthera wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Boudewijn said he had sent this, but I think he made a mistake, so
> I'll just send it again.
>
> We asked for the openraster website to use the gitlab:
> https://invent.kde.org/websites/openraster-org/
>
> To login, make an account on identity.kde.org and use that to login.
> Right now me and boud have commit access. I've copied over the issues
> that were on the github, so we can get back to these exciting tasks!

Quick question: does it include https://github.com/openraster/ora-spec/pull/2 ?

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Re: [CREATE] [LGM] Scribus 1.5.4 Released

2018-04-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 6:08 PM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:

>> > - Color precision for fill colors has been expanded to 64 bit floating
point.
>>
>> Is this because of...
>>
>> > - Scribus can now handle color palettes in the new ISO standard CxF3
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Alex
>
> No, that was implemented before and independently.

What was the real-life scenario that pushed you to go as deep as 64-bpc
float?

Thanks!

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Re: [CREATE] [LGM] Scribus 1.5.4 Released

2018-04-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 5:57 PM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:

> - Color precision for fill colors has been expanded to 64 bit floating point.

Is this because of...

> - Scribus can now handle color palettes in the new ISO standard CxF3

?

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Re: [CREATE] Fw: CxF- colour plattes (e.g. from freie Farbe) in Open Source applications

2017-12-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:06 PM "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:

> 1) Handling spectral CxF data in open source applications:
>
> --
> - Do you know any existing open source libraries, which are converting
> spectral-data to Lab ?
> - If yes, it is possible to combine this library with littleCMS (e.g. to
> make it easy for applications using littleCMS to convert spectral-data to
> Lab and use in littleCMS ?)
> - if yes, do you think it makes sense to intergrate CxF support into this
> library ?
>

I only know of SpecEd. It's an abandoned little Qt (afaik) app that
translates wavelength into CIE XYZ and sRGB.

The website doesn't work anymore, but both the page and the source code are
available via Web Archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150801195457/http://malat.biz/view/Projects/SpecEd

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Re: [CREATE] freieFarbe/freeColour HLC colour system to be accepted as a national standard for "Open Colour Communication" in Germany

2017-12-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:17 PM Jehan Pagès wrote:

Though I still think it is a very cool news, I actually join
> Alexandre's questions above.
>

Frankly, the DIN news covers most of the concerns I've had about
FreeColour/freieFarbe since its inception.

I'm still unsure about the potential market penetration, because, as far as
I can tell, businesses don't have to make a switch unless they do a
government job, and switching to a cheaper solution implies a lot of
showcases all around (the "better safe than sorry" mindset).

At this point there is no telling if the FreeColour matching system is more
reliable than PMS. The broad market hasn't seen the prototype yet. And IMO,
that's the most intriguing part.


> So my question is: from your LCH representation, can you ensure the
>
creation of an ink so that 2 unrelated people could create the same
> color?
>

If it does work reliably, it removes part of the "black box" effect that
PMS has on the industry. Which would be quite good already. That said,
reliability depends a lot on the print shop. There would be a long
transition period.

Personally, I couldn't care less if someone is being hostile towards
Pantone or telling they got no real color matching system (they are big
boys, they can take care of themselves). If it takes a few more years to
showcase a real print run of 100K copies of anything in full color and
metallic inks, all done with Scribus and spot colors from FreeColour, then
so be it. The market will decide for itself.

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Re: [CREATE] freieFarbe/freeColour HLC colour system to be accepted as a national standard for "Open Colour Communication" in Germany

2017-12-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM Jehan Pagès wrote:

Also what is SBZ? I assumed some kind of format, but it would only
> return me some video project extension from some software.
>

It's the file format of SwatchBooker.

http://www.selapa.net/swatchbooker/
https://github.com/olivierberten/SwatchBooker

FreeColour uses it for the original (unconverted) color palettes.

I have no idea if they extended the file format beyond what's in the latest
code in SwatchBooker's Git. You'd have to ask Christoph about that.

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Re: [CREATE] freieFarbe/freeColour HLC colour system to be accepted as a national standard for "Open Colour Communication" in Germany

2017-12-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
1 дек. 2017 г. 7:35 пользователь "Jehan Pagès" написал:

Not sure what we could do though since printing is not our specialty


Writing SBZ loader for GIMP would be a good start :) Especially since we
now have LCH all around.

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Re: [CREATE] freieFarbe/freeColour HLC colour system to be accepted as a national standard for "Open Colour Communication" in Germany

2017-12-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
1 дек. 2017 г. 6:36 пользователь Christoph Schäfer  написал:

We're currently cooperating with ink manufacturers in Germany and
Switzerland to establish ink formulas for HLC colours that cannot be
reproduced in CMYK, aka as spot colours


Since you already have a prototype, are you talking about metallic inks?


This is a real colour system and not just a colour collection like Pantone
or RAL.


How do you define a real color system?

Most importantly, it is a free and open alternative to Pantone & co, which
is not only better,


Better in what way?

At what stage of work within DIN will ink formulas be published one way or
another?

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[CREATE] ORA spec, next step

2017-08-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hello,

Apparently one of the roadblocks towards further work on the
OpenRaster file format was having to deal with the FreeDesktop wiki as
opposed to GitHub:

https://github.com/openraster/ora-spec/issues/1

Well, there you go:

https://github.com/openraster/ora-spec/pull/2

Unsure if it's enough to kickstart the work on the spec again, but
it's worth trying :)

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Re: [CREATE] CREATE Digest, Vol 102, Issue 7

2014-01-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
15 янв. 2014 г. 6:13 пользователь Susan Spencer susan.spen...@gmail.com
написал:


 Can LGM adopt the PSF policy
 as a temporary measure?
 http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy

It says among other things:

 [Exhibitors in the expo hall, sponsor or vendor booths, or similar
activities are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular,
exhibitors should not use sexualized images, activities, or other material.
Booth staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualized
clothing/uniforms/costumes, or otherwise create a sexualized environment.]

Now, I've been at events where companies slightly overdo sexualized
clothing of female participants up to the point where it begins to look
(disgustingly) slutty. But guess what -- it's just my opinion. I have my
own standards and don't expect everybody else to comply, although I reserve
the right to grumble :)

Making the event comfortable for extreme feminists increases the
possibility of hysterical behavior at the event, and the last thing I want
LGM to become famous for is some overreacting feminist (of any sex) in
boring colorless unisex clothes getting riled up because of someone else
having a V-neck not complying with the feminist's internal standards.

In a nutshell, if you are going to adopt this, please use common sense and
drop the parts of CoC that increase the possibility of someone being a
self-righteous jerk.

If we can't joke about the tight pants of LGM2010 anymore, we might as well
focus on reaching singularity and drop all bodily hints when we talk.

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Re: [CREATE] Reimbursements in advance?

2013-12-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Konstantin Dmitriev wrote:
 Hello!

 At the last year's LGM, during the final discussion it was mentioned
 that for some cases it is possible to get travel reimbursements
 prepaid in advance. So, my question: is that really possible?

First let's be done with 2013 reimbursements before LGM2014 starts, shall we? :)

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Re: [CREATE] Free and legal download of Pantone colour palettes from Adobe

2013-03-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

 Oh WAIT!
 There is no legalese on that page, but for a 'CC-NC-SA'  stamp at the
 end, and the files are simple zips to be downloaded from a  URL
 featuring the CC'ed text as their parent - and containing no license
 or legal text themselves. So I guess - that is the actual use license.
 It still will have some restrictions to use in all projects due to the
 Non Comercial bit on the license, though - but as I see it it could
 be used in comunity maintained add-ons (plug-ins, pallete files in
 different repositories) without problems.

Don't get overexcited. CC license applies to the documentation only.

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Re: [CREATE] swatches

2013-03-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Olivier Berten wrote:
 I indeed stopped working at it as it seemed nobody was interested in
 it (on the developers' side at least)..

On the developers' side -- maybe. As for users, SB would probably get
more attention if it had features similar to those of Gpick - color
harmony tools etc.

In general, I feel that SB is underpromoted (which is my fault too).

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Re: [CREATE] swatches

2013-03-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Craig Bradney wrote:

 Hi

 Sounds like a good idea. I guess my question is how fast is the format
 developing? That is, per the website:

 Limitations
 Colors only. Support for gradients, color schemes, patterns, textures is
 expected for version 0.8

 Wondering if it makes sense to start if 1.0 is due soon. Thoughts?

As far as I can tell, Olivier isn't currently working on this project.

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Re: [CREATE] Call for proposals for GSoC Doc Camp, Mountain View Dec. 3-7

2012-10-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote:

 https://gitorious.org/~manuq/mypaint/xsheet-mypaint

 We did a complete short film with it so kind of works.  I would like
 to convert it to a real traditional animation software in the future,
 when I find time.

But you didn't push all the latest changes?

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Re: [CREATE] Call for proposals for GSoC Doc Camp, Mountain View Dec. 3-7

2012-10-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote:

 But you didn't push all the latest changes?

 Is all there for animating, just didn't push the ugly hack to paint
 the cells.  I would consider another tool for that, one that uses a
 flood fill algorithm.

Ah, got it, thanks :)

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Re: [CREATE] libmspub (WAS: Sample files from older programs for those who would like to re-engineer)

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM, ale rimoldi wrote:

 the publisher format is indeed far more interesting...

 depending on how well the publisher importer works, i could try to
 find somebody willing to implement the scribus part for it...

 still, i don't really see many chances that somebody from the team will
 do it before the 1.6 release. so, we will have to look for new (or
 returning) developers.

 but libmspub seems to still be at the 0.0.0 release...

No. It's 0.0.2+

 this does not really send out the signal that projects other than oo/lo
 should use it...

Maybe

 two final questions from my side:

 - how good do you think could be the quality of the import through
   libmspub library in scribus? which elements will exactly match? which
   will be just there? (text, images, word arts, ...)? which won't be
   there?

http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/microsoft-publisher-converter-officially-released

   what will the reaction of the user after having imported they're real
   world files into scribus and wanting to continue their work in
   scribus?

I don't understand this question. I suppose they would be pleased to
see that pretty much everything opens except embedded OLE-objects.

 do you have some test results with libre/open-office to
   give an idea? (screenshot of the original,
   screenshot of the imported file, imported file)

Same URL as above

 - how much work do you think it will take to integrate it? hours?
   weeks? months? do you have an idea?

https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/lp1015572/+merge/114040/+preview-diff/+files/preview.diff

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Re: [CREATE] libregraphicsworld.org return 403 for all urls

2012-07-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Yes, I know, thanks

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Jakub Jankiewicz jcu...@onet.pl wrote:
 Anyone know to whom it should be send that the site
 http://libregraphicsworld.org/ is down (it's return forbidden for all
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Re: [CREATE] DEADLINE REMINDER MAY 31 - LGM 2012 Reimbursement

2012-05-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
 * R E M I N D E R *

 Hi LGMers !

 For those who are entitled to a reimbursement for their travel expenses *and
 who have not yet filed the form*, please go to page:

 http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/reimbursements/

 You will get a confirmation email once you hit the submit button.


 Deadline for submitting your receipts is *May 31, 2012.*

Maybe post to LGM blog, G+ and twitter too?

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Re: [CREATE] recordings of the lgm 2012

2012-05-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Timothée Giet wrote:
 Hi,

 I can do the post-prod work if needed;

Fine with me :)

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[CREATE] swatches

2012-05-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi folks,

Not sure if Olivier Berten is attending LGM, but maybe you could
discuss unified swatches file format? Personally, I'd like to see
SwatchBooker's file format being used as one (probably extended to
feature bitmap materials), so that we could promote best practices of
creating swatches. But that's just me :)

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Re: [CREATE] videos at lgm

2012-04-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM, ale rimoldi ale.comp...@xox.ch wrote:

 bringing a spare camera to the LGM won't really help, as long as you
 don't find somebody ready to spend days in doing the post production
 work.

If raw stuff is uploaded, I can do the postprocessing, no problem.

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[CREATE] videos at lgm

2012-04-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Folks,

So far it looks like we don't have videos recorded this year.

If anyone's attending with a camera (s)he can spare, don't hesitate to
make those not attending a wee bit happier people :)

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Re: [CREATE] best practices of 3rd party data embedding

2012-04-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 * Right now cdr2xhtml uses litlecms based conversion to sRGB via SWOP
 v5 profile.

Just for the sake of clarification, that's fallback scenario. The
default behavior is using embedded profiles for color managed
conversion to sRGB.

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Re: [CREATE] best practices of 3rd party data embedding

2012-04-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Chris Lilley wrote:

 AP Corel DRAW embeds ICC profiles to CDR files to map colors to.
 AP Conceptually it's pretty much what SVG does with the whole icc-color
 AP thing. So *technically* it's possible to extract embedded ICC profiles
 AP and re-embed them to an output SVG file, then map all colors via
 AP icc-color accordingly *.

 That would be the preferred solution, assuming the profiles CDR uses are 
 valid and sensible.

OK

(Personally that's what I think too)

 AP But how does it look like from legal standpoint? Should embedding be
 AP opt-in? Or should there be some API for annoying users with a legal
 AP question they probably wouldn't care to answer?

 I think there is something in the ICC header about embedability vs. 
 standalone use of the profile.

Aha, thanks. I googled a bit, and it looks like you are referring to
uFlags. Thanks!

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Re: [CREATE] Questions about the Libre Graphics brand

2012-04-11 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2012/4/11 Gábor Udvari gabor.udv...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I am Gábor Udvari, 25 years old free software enthusiast from Hungary,
 web-developer by profession, but a wanna-be artist contributing to
 OpenArena, Battle for Wesnoth (Hungarian community), Ubuntu (Hungarian
 community) and Firefox (Hungarian community). I would like to ask some
 questions about the Libre Graphics brand, if such thing exists or not,
 and what's the connection between the Libre Graphics World and the Libre
 Graphics Magazine.

 Hungary is a small country with less than 10 million people, thus the
 number of free software volunteers is extremely small. Due to this small
 number only a handful of free software communities can manage a separate
 homepage, and even those homepages which exist are often abandoned or
 outdated. The two examples of this are http://gimp.hu, which was not
 updated since 2009, and http://blender.hu which is quite active, but the
 design and the UX is stuck in the 90s. Other free software community
 homepages like Inkscape or Scribus are not even started. News, such like
 the Liberated Pixel Cup (http://lpc.opengameart.org/) do not have a
 place and they cannot reach the proper audience.

 Therefore I was thinking that instead of trying to improve every single
 community homepage, I should start a free software graphical portal to
 bind all the little communities and effort together. An important part
 of starting such an undertaking is branding.

 I would like to ask about the possibilities and conditions of using the
 Libre Graphics or Libre Graphics World brand as a title of a Hungarian
 portal, like libregraphicsworld.hu . Is Libre Graphics a brand on its
 own? What is the connection between Libre Graphics World, Libre Graphics
 Magazine and Libre Graphics Meeting? Can I start a Hungarian portal to
 support the libre graphics movement, can we be part of the family? Since
 Libre Graphics Meeting is coming to Vienna this year, this would be an
 excellent year to start a community project in a country next to Austria.

 Eagerly waiting for your reply:
 Gábor Udvari

Hi Gábor,

Libre Graphics Meeting was started in 2006 as an extended version of
the annual GIMP developers meeting. Organizers are usually more
affiliated with Scribus project than with any other project.

Libre Graphics World was started in 2009 by me a) as an English
version of linuxgraphics.ru (started in 2006) and b) as a result of
some discussions at LGM2009. I don't really remember the exact reasons
for the name picking, AFAIK, I just needed something familiar and I
wasn't imaginative enough.

Libre Graphics Magazine was started, AFAIK, in late 2010 by ginger
coons and Manufactura Independente. I'm not sure I know the exact
reasoning either. Perhaps the editorial staff will explain that.

All three LG* projects are friends, but, to the best of my knowledge,
not officially affiliated. At least this is the case for LGW.

In my opinion, Libre Graphics World is an unfortunate choice for the
brand name, but so far I haven't been able to come up with anything
more sensible. I don't have a particular opinion about
libregraphicsworld.hu right now other than it's a damn too long name
that people are going to hate and fail to understand :)

I'm CCing my reply to CREATE mailing list where LGM and LGmag folks reside.

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Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster: version numbering

2012-04-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
 On 29/03/12 21:50, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/OpenRaster/Draft/VersionNumber


 - let me know what you think, and feel free to edit it.

 Final call for comments on this before I integrate it into the main
 part of the specification and hack it into what MyPaint writes. May I
 assume that there's nothing controversial about having a version
 number, nor its location, nor its format?

Do you want anyone from LibreOffice to have a go at it in terms of
best practices etc.?

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[CREATE] mail approvals

2012-02-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

For some silly reason create list got premoderation (at least ale's
mail is stuck in the queue), I don't think I ever had an admin
password and I don't see a way to reclaim it. If Jon or Brad can fix
that premoderation sillyness, I'd be much obliged.

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Re: [CREATE] ORA spec: adding additional layer effects

2012-02-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
 The OpenRaster spec currently states (working from memory here) that
 ORA files may use uses the SVG compositing ops[1]. These do not
 provide colorize layer modes, nor modes for luminosity-setting,
 hue-setting or saturation-setting.

I've just asked in w3s svg mailing list, and Rik Cabanier replied:

I'm working on a new CSS composting spec that will add those missing
blend modes.
There will be a new CSS keyword 'blending' that will let you specify a
blend mode on an HTML or SVG element.

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Re: [CREATE] ORA spec: adding additional layer effects

2012-02-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick wrote:

 Is there any reason why GIMP and Krita aren't (by quick
 experimentation and/or code analysis) using this?

It was a too quick one :)

GIMP relies on Lab for doing compositing in Color blending mode when
Use GEGL checkbox is enabled.

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Re: [CREATE] Google event microdata

2012-02-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Jakub Jankiewicz wrote:
 I just read about Event microdata that google support
 http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=164506

 If libre graphics meeting will have these in html it will show in search
 result so LGM page will be more visible in search result.

For what search queries? :)

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Re: [CREATE] wiki

2012-02-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Martin Renold wrote:
 Now the wiki is both spammed and write-protected at the same time.

 Any idea where to migrate http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/OpenRaster to?
 It was great to have some inter-project-ish dumping space - we could move it
 to the MyPaint wiki, but it seems wrong to attach it to a single project.

Gitorious projects have internal wiki. Didn't OpenRaster use to have
such a project? For either library or the GIMP plug-in?

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Re: [CREATE] lgm feed on graphicsplanet

2012-01-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM, ale rimoldi ale.comp...@xox.ch wrote:
 prokoudine,

 could you please add the feed of the lgm 2012 blog to the
 graphics planet?

 http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/feed/

Sure, as soon as I get back to computer with a Git checkout and an SSH
key later today.

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Re: [CREATE] lgm feed on graphicsplanet

2012-01-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 could you please add the feed of the lgm 2012 blog to the
 graphics planet?

 http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/feed/

 Sure, as soon as I get back to computer with a Git checkout and an SSH
 key later today.

Done. If you have time, please add a prominent link to the RSS feed
for those who just want to subscribe without ransacking source code of
the page :)

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Re: [CREATE] LGM in Vienna - Location acknowleged

2012-01-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Louis Desjardins
louis.desjard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Would we agree on a much tighter process like giving from Jan15 to March1st
 to propose a talk. Then we make the program over the next 2-3 weeks. By
 April1st we have the program online instead of having it the day before LGM.
 We'd still be opened for lightning talks and BoFs that can be done while the
 show goes on.

So, it's 5 months till the conference and:

- http://libregraphicsmeeting.org still doesn't respond
- presumably we have no idea where we are with finances
- presumably we don't have a logo for the conference yet
- presumably we don't have a website for it either

What am I missing?

I can help with writing text, HTML and whatnot. Needless to say, I can
pass the information to communities. But I have a short attention span
and I'd feel obliged if you spared me the ever-returning discussion on
CMS vs. static HTML and other annoying crap. I've got a supply of that
for years to come.

Could we please start caring about the conference so much that we
actually organized it in advance?

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[CREATE] fosdem 2012

2012-01-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

It looks like quite a few people here are attending FOSDEM. Would you
folks be interested to tell us who you are and what/when you will be
talking about? Just so that you know who you could be looking for :)

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Re: [CREATE] LGM in Vienna - Location acknowleged

2011-12-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Peter Linnell wrote:

 It would be very useful to have something at

 http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/

 even if it is merely a heading and some placeholder text.

 All the access info is on backups I carried over on my move.  On the todo
 for the week.

Once we have it running, could we please start early(ier) talk submissions?

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Re: [CREATE] LGM in Vienna - Location acknowleged

2011-12-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:

  All the access info is on backups I carried over on my move.  On the
  todo
  for the week.

 Once we have it running, could we please start early(ier) talk
 submissions?


 Would we agree on a much tighter process like giving from Jan15 to March1st
 to propose a talk. Then we make the program over the next 2-3 weeks. By
 April1st we have the program online instead of having it the day before LGM.
 We'd still be opened for lightning talks and BoFs that can be done while the
 show goes on.

Fixed core talks + flexible lightning talks schedule sounds good to me :)

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[CREATE] wiki

2011-09-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

We need an administrative decision. Currently we don't have anyone
actively maintaining the CREATE wiki, so spammers get through anyway
and have a linkfest. Personally I'm too busy with other projects and
can't be around all the time.

As far as I can tell, we have quite a fixed amount of people who
contribute there, and it's not like the activity rivalled that of
Wikipedia.

How about we have invite-only registration in the wiki?

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Re: [CREATE] wiki

2011-09-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:

 Do you mean we do not use the wiki anymore ? I use it a lot for LGM and it's
 going to be the same next year. I think that what Alexandre is suggesting is
 fine. Unless there are drawbacks I am not aware of.

 Ok, right. Just lock registrations on the wiki.  done.

Thanks heaps :)

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Re: [CREATE] VSD/VSS reverse-engineered

2011-09-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 And now there is a libvisio v0.0.1 (in C++).

 http://libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=812

And now libvisio is at 0.0.7, supporting lots of things and making VSD
mostly very readable (for LibreOffice you still want a build from Git
to support some features such as elliptic arcs). More info is here:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/articles.php?article_id=41

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Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 in Vienna?

2011-09-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:26 PM, S.Kemter wrote:

 Time to say something about that event in Vienna

Sounds good to me.

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Re: [CREATE] Create resources stuff

2011-06-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Camille Bissuel wrote:

 Maybe the Alexandre Prodoukine's

It's Prokoudine, thank you :)

 or the a.l.e.'s http://www.freegraphicdesigner.org/

Whois doesn't know about this domain.

 are suitable if they agree.

As for LGW, we are in the middle of switching to a new CMS, and while
we might implement a GHNS compatible module in the future, chances to
get it here and now are fairly slim. Besides I would rather prefer
this would-be generic GHNS server to be an independent entity
regarding myself.

I don't think a new domain is such a big deal. The question really is
whether you have people to maintain it. Location and name are second
important. The Open Font Library story should have been a lesson in
that respect, I think.

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Re: [CREATE] Inkscape questions

2011-06-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Yuval Levy wrote:

 I need a historical perspective.

 1. has the project become more popular / received massively more bug reports
 in 2011 than in 2008?

Can't say for sure.

 2. has the project lost resources / people that were working through the bug
 reports to triage and fix them?

Yes. See below.

 3. who was responsible for the stellar 2008 performace of bringing down the
 count of untriaged bugs to less than 100?

When we moved from SF to Launchpad, there was an active team of half a
dozen of people (at least) who worked on it.

  are these people still around? still active?

Only few.

 4. how have developers reacted to the restructured tracker?  has the project
 seen more bug fixes in 2008 than in previous years?  and if so, has the pace
 slowed down since?  why?

The kind of tracker has nothing to do with amount of bugfixes.

 5. how has the devs team evolved over the 2008 to 2011 period? have some key
 players reduced their involvment / left the prject?  motives?  have new key
 player emerged?  was there a generational transition and if yes was it
 managed? how?

2007-2008 was when last people from the initial team gradually stopped
contributing. We never completely recovered since then. Of the old
crew only Jon Cruz is around (some of the old team is working on 2geom
library, our side project). Right now we are down to just few people
who actually fix bugs and several GSoC students who have became
regular contributors. Bugs triaging is done by mostly one bugfixer and
another person who isn't developer.

 Last but not least, I have bumped across two Inkscape limitations and I was
 wondering how useful is the Inkscape bug tracker at this point in time:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/775226

Wrong tool. Use Scribus.

1. Create a new page with frames for images.
2. Group those frames.
3. Send this group to scrapbook.
4. Drag this group from scrapbook on every new page.

Note that you can create different compositions of frames and save
them all in your scrapbook, then just drag onto canvas whichever you
need at the moment.

As for sharpening, nothing prevents you from doing selective
sharpening on just the images you need. This is what both bitmap
filters (ImageMagick based) and SVG filters are for.

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/797164

Can't comment on this one much.

 especially the first one is very much annoying me and I would classify it as
 critical, but I know too little about the project and its aims to know if
 such a classification would fit the project's vision.

Some smarter interpolation methods like those that keep penetrating
GEGL thanks to Nicolas and Adam would be nice indeed. However unsharp
mask and co. are always the last word, interpolation regardless. You
have it in Inkscape already.

 Is there such a thing as an Inkscape user survey?

Not that I know of. I think we shall do one later this year. However,
as you will surely understand, given how few developers we have
around, some kind of survey might indeed help us understand things,
but won't help us do much about it.

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Re: [CREATE] Create resources stuff

2011-06-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:50 AM, j...@rejon.org wrote:
 Why not just put it at http://create.freedesktop.org/stuff

Very few things, if any, are easier to memorize than
http://third-level.domain.foo/directory/ :)

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[CREATE] VSD/VSS reverse-engineered

2011-06-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

We (re-lab) pushed first public reverse-engineered documentation on
Microsoft Visio binary file formats, VSD and VSS.

The news is here: http://libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=798

Valek is indeed in contact with LibreOffice student and mentor who
work on VSD support this year. If anybody else (Calligra/Flow?) is
interested, you don't have the excuse of closed proprietary file
format anymore :)

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Re: [CREATE] LGM REIMBURSEMENTS

2011-05-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Louis Desjardins
louis.desjard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 The deadline is/was not meant as to be a mean not to reimburse people but in
 fact to accelerate the process.

 Many people have not yet filled the reimbursement form and they should do it
 asap.

 Here is the page:
 http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011/reimbursement/

Could it be slightly more effective to just mail everyone who
registered for the conference?
Not everyone's reading create@ maybe?

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Re: [CREATE] can you give us access to the Flickr LGM group?

2011-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 5/16/11, ricardo lafuente wrote:
 Gah, you're totally right. Late night browsings make me derp a little.

Mind you, if anyone's wiling to co-admin the group, just say the word.

I also set a nickname for the group finally: 'lgm was already taken,
so I settled for libregfx to coincide with our twitter account.

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Re: [CREATE] Announcement: Libre Graphics magazine 1.2 is out now

2011-03-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/22/11, ginger coons wrote:
 Good news! (Which you're more than welcome to redistribute and cross-post.)

 Last night, we released issue 1.2 of Libre Graphics magazine. This issue,
 exploring themes of Use Cases and Affordances, is pretty darn good, if we do
 say so ourselves. We look at workflow, vectors as pixels, and also have an
 in-detail interview with the people behind AdaptableGIMP.

 For those who want to check it out (and we hope you all do), you can order a
 copy (http://libregraphicsmag.com/buy.html) or read the PDF version (
 http://libregraphicsmag.com/download.html). Heck, do both!

Download the Low-res version (3 mb, good for slow internet connections)

The file is 16MB actually.

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Re: [CREATE] Announcement: Libre Graphics magazine 1.2 is out now

2011-03-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/22/11, ginger coons wrote:
 Good news! (Which you're more than welcome to redistribute and cross-post.)

 Last night, we released issue 1.2 of Libre Graphics magazine. This issue,
 exploring themes of Use Cases and Affordances, is pretty darn good, if we do
 say so ourselves. We look at workflow, vectors as pixels, and also have an
 in-detail interview with the people behind AdaptableGIMP.

 For those who want to check it out (and we hope you all do), you can order a
 copy (http://libregraphicsmag.com/buy.html) or read the PDF version (
 http://libregraphicsmag.com/download.html). Heck, do both!

Another thing: cover previews are absent.

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Re: [CREATE] Announcement: Libre Graphics magazine 1.2 is out now

2011-03-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/23/11, ginger coons wrote:
 Does it count as absent if we've never done them?

For a design product -- yes, it does :)

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/10/11, Jon Nordby wrote:
 Hey guys,
 2 months to LGM2011 now!
 It looks like the March 1th deadline for the pledgie and call for
 papers has slipped? What is going on, do we have everything under
 control? What are the issues blocking these items, how can people
 help?

To whomever is in charge for the Pledgie, the link to Jake's video on
Vimeo doesn't work: the video has been deleted.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM2011: Pledgie, call for papers, marketing push

2011-03-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 3/16/11, jon wrote:

 To whomever is in charge for the Pledgie, the link to Jake's video on
 Vimeo doesn't work: the video has been deleted.
 What?

Which part of the message exactly causes confusion? :) I clicked the
link earlier today to watch the video, and Vimeo told me it wasn't
there.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM11 panel proposal: attracting new devs

2011-02-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/19/11, Yuval Levy wrote:

 For the past four years Hugin had an good flow of contributors - developers,
 builders, translators, documenters, designers.

 Most coders come, implement one or two nice features, and go.  I would
 estimate 50% are Google Summer of Code students and 50% come out of the
 blue with an entry on the Tracker such as [0] or [1].  Many (if not most) of 
 them
 are not very active in the (users) community and I assume the motivation is
 scratch your own itches.

It's quite the same with Inkscape, except that some of the students
stick and continue working past their projects. But GSoC has really
been giving us 50% of new stuff in final releases.

I won't quote the rest of your reply, because I simply agree :)

However I'm strongly against the idea of getting just developers
involved. There's heaps of work to do in the usability and design
department wherever you look. GIMP team has been benefitting from work
with Peter Sikking for some years now, Krita team worked with him as
well a year ago, Scribus team reportedly has an interested usability
engineer since recently, but most other projects are on their tod. IMO
it needs full attention. We can't just pile new code on top of other
code and get away with that.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM Lab — Consultation

2011-01-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/21/11, Louis Desjardins wrote:

 Now, while we are discussing this marvelous idea, we realize that the
 week-end before LGM happens to be the one with Mothers' Day (Sunday May 8)
 and ICGQ is letting me know that this would not be the better week-end for
 such activity since a lot of people might be away in their family for the
 week-end. They then propose we do the Lab day on the Saturday AFTER LGM.

 Hence my question to you... What do you think ? Will there be more
 developers willing to go to ICGQ after or before LGM ?

After

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Re: [CREATE] Transmediale + FOSDEM LGM Meetups?

2011-01-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:04 PM, j...@rejon.org j...@rejon.org wrote:
 Hi all, myself and part of Fabricatorz team (Christopher Adams and
 Barry Threw) will be in Berlin starting Monday for a book sprint about
 the open web, and then doing a Sharism Presents
 (http://sharism.org/presents) event at http://Transmediale.de

 Will others be at Transmediale and/or interested in a LGM/Create meetup?

 Also, we could pull together a meetup like we did last year at FOSDEM
 to talk about LGM2011.

http://twitter.com/musescore/status/27489740563419136

You definitely want hanging out with MuseScore team. IMO it's the best
free/libre score editor today, and they are into sharism in form of
open sheet music now:

http://musescore.com/sheetmusic

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Re: [CREATE] Reclaim your tools. A film by Jakub Szypulka

2011-01-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/12/11, Jakub Szypulka wrote:

 to happen. I assure you that it will not be the case in the next LGM.
 (given that there will be women to film ;)

Last time in Montreal the ratio was maybe 1:10 as in women:men. It's
up to you to decide if you go for proportional approach :)

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Re: [CREATE] Reclaim your tools. A film by Jakub Szypulka

2011-01-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/12/11, ginger coons wrote:

 f) Every year, we do better. anecdote From my first LGM (Montreal, 2007)

2007... Er...

We surely do better every year then, because I've just checked my
pictures from 2007 (few hundreds) and I find them quite gingerless.
Whereas 2009 and 2010 pictures are, on the contrary, gingerful (in
moderation).

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Re: [CREATE] Reclaim your tools. A film by Jakub Szypulka

2011-01-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/12/11, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra wrote:

 This video not show the spirit of LGM :
 conference : speaker point of view, people point of view, some very
 beautiful slide
 workshop : see people working, see exchange between people and the animator
 (the image of cedric gemy is so little to understand the specification of
 workshop)
 working group/reunion : see developer and user think about a problem (see
 some passionate exchange like in the svg group ^^)
 LGM is graphic : see the OSP show

I think I have to defend Jakub here :), because we simply don't know
what kind of overall footage he had before he started editing, as well
as we don't know if he planned doing anything before the actual event.
It's not as if he had a time machine to travel back and do some
additional footage ;)

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[CREATE] lgm2011, talks, finances

2011-01-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

A littlle less than five months till the next LGM now.

Should we start collecting talk proposals now?

Does anybody want to start a new Pledgie campaign too?

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[CREATE] Summing up 2010

2010-12-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

Here come an overview of what was happening to free mediacontent production
software over the year:

http://libregraphicsworld.org/articles.php?article_id=26

Unfortunately, I didn't find it possible to cover every major project,
in fact I even had to strip LuxRender/YafaRay to keep the story
shorter. I hope you can bear with that.

Have a great holiday season!

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[CREATE] lgm. the movie

2010-12-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

Any news on the movie project by Cube?

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Re: [CREATE] Dec Reimbursement Inquery

2010-12-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 12/13/10, Louis Desjardins wrote:

 Emails are great but in this particular and sensible case where money is
 involved and people waiting for it we need the three-way handshake: I send
 you an email, you send me a confirmation that you got it and I send you a
 confirmation that I know you got it.

Why not customize some simple bug tracker?

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine 1.1 is available to read, buy and modify

2010-11-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/16/10, ginger coons wrote:

 http://libregraphicsmag.com/download.html). However, if you're interested in
 a print copy, it's even easier to buy a copy, available for $12 (CAD). We're
 also offering subscriptions at $45 (CAD) for four issues, or $100 (CAD) at
 the Supporter tier, which gets you four issues, lots of gratitude and maybe
 even a nice thank you note. (Buy: http://libregraphicsmag.com/buy.html)

The Pledgie campaign stays?

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine 1.1 is available to read, buy and modify

2010-11-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/21/10, ginger coons wrote:

 The Pledgie campaign stays?


 For now, yes. It's for anyone who, for some reason, really doesn't want a
 print copy but still wants to offer some financial support to the project.

Ah, thanks for the clarification :)

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Re: [CREATE] Questions and reflections about gradients

2010-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/4/10, Olivier BERTEN wrote:

 * I don't see the point in Foreground/Background colors
 http://www.mail-archive.com/create@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01272.html
 ;-) I see even less the point in having gradients swatches defined with
 Foreground/Background colors... This is a feature you can find in
 Photoshop and Gimp gradients. For sure I don't see how it would be
 useful in an exchange format...

Inkscape doesn't have FG/BG colors in gradients, even though we were
criticized for that some months ago (the discussion was in
inkscape-devel@) :) IMO, start and end are the best you can get
really. FG/BG are just common conventions many people got used to.

But even for gradients fg/bg and start/end don't have to make sense.
If you look at Mandelbulber's Shaders tab, you'll see a kind of
gradient that controls coloring of a 3D fractal. The concept of start
and end is quite washed out there.

 * I think the segment concept of Gimp isn't really interesting since
 the position of a segment start has to be the same as the end of the
 previous one, and in 99% of the cases, the color is the same too. For
 the 1% left, you can create another stop at the same position.

OTOH things like blending function and coloring type for segments in
GIMP's gradients can be of use.

 * Is there any free software dealing with noise gradients?

Not that I know of. Noise gradients are entirely a Photoshop thing to
the best of my knowledge. I have to admit though we haven't looked at
any of Corel PSP's assets (mostly because the installer doesn't wish
to work on wine out of box).

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine Pledgie campaign

2010-11-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/23/10, Jon Nordby wrote:
 On 23 October 2010 10:55, ginger coons gin...@adaptstudio.ca wrote:
 I can indeed shed some light. We're planning to print a 96 page
 publication,
 half colour, at Mardigrafe in Montreal. It costs $7,403 CAD to print 1000
 copies. For double that price, we could do 5000 copies, but $15,000
 dollars
 seems like an unrealistic goal right now. The extra money built into the
 goal is there with the intention of having a little wiggle room, as well
 as
 being able to finance shipping large boxes of magazines, which is the
 heart
 of our distribution strategy. Essentially, within the number of copies we
 have, we'll gladly send a box to anyone who is attending an event and
 wants
 to hand some out. This issue, we're hoping to send some along to FOSSASIA
 and I'll be taking some to the HTMlles festival (a digital art fest in
 Montreal) as well as on classroom visits to design schools. We'll also be
 offering copies for sale online. At the moment, I'm looking into order
 fulfilment services which might be suited to doing this job.

 Hope that gives an idea of printing goals and distribution strategy.
 This information should be readily available on your Pledgie page. To
 actually get donations, it is fundamental to communicate what people
 are helping to achieve by donating. Some sneak peaks/teasers might be
 beneficial too.

Bump :-)

P.S. There is a space missing between , blog. and Contact us. at
http://libregraphicsmag.com/

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine Pledgie campaign

2010-11-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/1/10, ginger coons wrote:

 Bump :-)


 http://pledgie.com/campaigns/13812 Now with more details about goals and
 distribution.

Thanks, that's already a lot better. But... No pretty pictures yet?

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Re: [CREATE] Sozi : animated presentations with Inkscape

2010-10-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/26/10, Camille Bissuel wrote:
 Hi all,

 just a few words to annouce that a french dev (Guillaume Savaton) has just
 released an interesting extension for Inkscape called Sozi, wich allow to
 create simply animated presentation with svg and javascript :
 http://sozi.baierouge.fr/wiki/doku.php

Sadly, no :) Release = available to download :)

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine Pledgie campaign

2010-10-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/24/10, jon wrote:

 Why not just sell them?

Taxation

Truly yours,
Captain Obvious :)
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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine Pledgie campaign

2010-10-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/23/10, Jon Nordby wrote:

 On 23 October 2010 10:55, ginger coons wrote:
 I can indeed shed some light. We're planning to print a 96 page
 publication,
 half colour, at Mardigrafe in Montreal. It costs $7,403 CAD to print 1000
 copies. For double that price, we could do 5000 copies, but $15,000
 dollars
 seems like an unrealistic goal right now. The extra money built into the
 goal is there with the intention of having a little wiggle room, as well
 as
 being able to finance shipping large boxes of magazines, which is the
 heart
 of our distribution strategy. Essentially, within the number of copies we
 have, we'll gladly send a box to anyone who is attending an event and
 wants
 to hand some out. This issue, we're hoping to send some along to FOSSASIA
 and I'll be taking some to the HTMlles festival (a digital art fest in
 Montreal) as well as on classroom visits to design schools. We'll also be
 offering copies for sale online. At the moment, I'm looking into order
 fulfilment services which might be suited to doing this job.
 Hope that gives an idea of printing goals and distribution strategy.

Okay, thanks, Ginger :) But pretty please add that to both pledgie and
lgmag pages.

 Some sneak peaks/teasers might be beneficial too.

Yes, a couple of good looking spreads never do a harm  :)

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[CREATE] welcome dvdauthor :)

2010-10-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

ChangeLog for newly released dvdauthor 0.7.0 (CLI apps for DVD
authoring) has this line:

Implement configuration of default video format as per the proposal
at http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Video_Format_Pref.

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Magazine Pledgie campaign

2010-10-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/22/10, ginger coons wrote:

 Libre Graphics Magazine issue 1.1 is getting ready to go to press. We've got
 lots of exciting articles, design and art work and other very nice Libre
 Graphics content ready to go. So now, we're running a Pledgie drive to get
 our finances up to the necessary level, as far as printing is concerned.

OK, so the Pledgie is about printing. But nowhere it is explained
where it will be printed and how printed copies will be distributed.
Could you please shed some light on that?

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Re: [CREATE] ORA fullscreen viewers

2010-09-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/10/10, Martin Renold wrote:

 I don't expect an ORA viewer to implement many blending modes (if at all),
 nor to render a tiled pattern.

Why not? Both PSD and XCF loaders for gdk_pixbuf support blending modes.

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Re: [CREATE] ORA fullscreen viewers

2010-09-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/10/10, Martin Renold wrote:

 Why not? Both PSD and XCF loaders for gdk_pixbuf support blending modes.

 There are too many useful blending modes; colorize can be done in LAB,
 over can be done in linear light.  With only over a nested layer tree
 can be rendered flat.

 We need to draw the line somewhere.

Or improve Pixman and Cairo :)

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Re: [CREATE] Libre Graphics Day 2011

2010-09-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/6/10, ryan lerch wrote:
 Hi all!

 The Libre Graphics Day miniconf has been approved for linux.conf.au 2011!

 Additionally, the call for participation is now open too!

No, it's already closed :)

The call for proposals has closed. Your submission will be added to a
waiting list.

And the main page never said about deadlines for the call.

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Re: [CREATE] Art Montréal (was Re: LGM 2011 - Montreal - May 10-11-12-13)

2010-09-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/8/10, Schrijver wrote:

 As a connection point, Libre graphics does not only have a relation to the
 traditional graphic processes but also I think to developments like
 generative design and software art. You can see this in projects like
 Shoebot and Nodebox but for example also the ‘processing’ language
 http://processing.org/  —that’s an important software tool in this respect
 and its a free and open source project. Actually maybe we could invite
 someone from their team?

That should be fairly easy: FLOSS Manuals is right now having book
sprint on Processing, and Elisa is there :)

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Re: [CREATE] Open Source Fashion Software Update

2010-08-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/21/10, Susan Spencer wrote:
 I would like to say thank you to the open source graphics community.

 I received much support, direction and advice to get this project started at
 this year's LGM.
 Since then, I've begun to learn Python, Inkscape, and implement SVG specs.
 I would not have attempted this if I hadn't been at LGM.

OK, inkscape.org now has a small news story on that.
Let me know if something in the text should be fixed :)

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/18/10, Camille Bissuel wrote:
 Hi all,

 Let's try a design suicide by posting some sketchs on a creative peoples
 mailing list ;)

 So, I've started to sketch this new website :
 http://www.yagraph.org/images/create/draft-web-create-news.png
 http://www.yagraph.org/images/create/draft-web-create-peoples.png
 http://www.yagraph.org/images/create/draft-web-create-projects.png

Just one minor design unrelated note: it's people, not peoples :-)

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Camille Bissuel wrote:

 Alexandre, do you agree to move some of your contents, like the FAQs for the
 main application or your software web links, on the same website to make
 things more coherent ?

FAQs in their current form are of little use. It was an idea that didn't work.
Feel free to use the text, I will remove it next week probably.
The software catalog (weblinks) will stay.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/13/10, a.l.e wrote:

 i have the feeling that CREATE, in its current form, can't manage most
 of those tasks.

There is a question I didn't ask in the very beginning (LGM, then
first thread in this list), but I feel I have to ask anyway. How
exactly will establishing an association help to start promotion of
free software in places, where target audience hangs around?

 - it's too close to a suite which already leads the largest parts of
   the market we want to take over.

You know, one of the really huge problems I've seen in the community
is an urge to take over market while not providing viable solutions
for that very market.

 p.s.: i was not aware that CREATE had activities outside of the
 graphics field.

Because we failed to establish a solid two-way connection, obviously.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/13/10, Camille Bissuel wrote:

 Why FSF is needed ?
 Why Mozilla foundation is needed ?
 Can't you see the great benefit of the Blender foundation for Blender ?
 Have you an idea of the huge work they do ?

You know, I actually wrote a lengthy reply to each of your very nice,
albeit purely rhetoric questions. I even quoted all kinds of reliable
sources and referenced to all sorts of interesting and even amusing
facts, but then I thought: no, I don't want another holy war.

So the very best of luck to you with that project.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/14/10, Susan Spencer wrote:

 Website name TBD, svg logo TBD, and
 final selection of tools and website providers TBD.
 These decisions are meaningless without substance,
 and therefore can wait.

This what we in software development call proof of concept.

 Is this a good suggestion for moving the forward,
 or should we wait until all our fears are quenched?

It's a fairly good suggestion indeed. Starting a project from
discussion is likely to lead to exactly what you described (GMPI,
anyone?). Doing a proof of concept and then iteratively improving it
as a result of consequent discussion is the way to create a viable
project. People have been hearing about plans for L-G website since
LGM2009. If there are people who really care about the idea, it's
about time something real was done.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/14/10, Yuval Levy wrote:

 On August 13, 2010 01:19:16 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 one of the really huge problems I've seen in the community
 is an urge to take over market while not providing viable solutions
 for that very market.

 +1.  Let's be frank: it's called ego.  And since art is the expression of
 the artist's ego, it is intrinsically built into a community of artists.

I did not really refer to ego (which, though, in my case would be true :))

Let's say people have different visions of how things should work (and
these visions could be close to reality or completely out of it) and
they tend to protect their visions.

As someone who dares calling himself a creative person I can say for
sure that I've buried a bunch of interesting projects because I didn't
dare to go from concept in my head to real implementation. If you (not
you, Yuv:)) really intend to realize this project, the best way, as
Susan suggested, would be to ditch the whole thread and start with a
proof of concept. Otherwise you will *never* get anything done.

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/13/10, Yuval Levy wrote:

 I don't agree with Jon's statements on the broader scope beyond graphics.
 IMO LG should yes be flexible about its boundaries and welcome related
 project  (e.g. in the audio or video fields) when the opportunity arise, but 
 it
 should first and foremost stay focused on its core (graphics) mission to
 avoid spreading the resources too thin or diluting the conference too much.

IIRC Jon's point was about CREATE, not LG. And CREATE is not about
just graphics.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/8/10, a.l.e wrote:

 on of my biggest concerns relating to a lg site is to get it localized in
 multiple languages (at least fr, de, it, es, nl, in, ar).

 the sites you linked in your mails are all in english:

You certainly cannot expect all content, especially generated by users
in e.g. forum, to be automagically available in an arbitrary language
with all the right grammar and whatnot :) UI language -- now that's a
different thing.

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/8/10, Gregory Pittman wrote:

 I think maybe the Create site could work if it had a different/better
 portal, where what's there now could be accessed from it, but you could
 have other directions to go from that portal.

 In essence, I'm just talking about a new front page...

It's a sensible idea. Mediawiki has a solid i18n implementation and
you can easily handle translations (wikipedia relies on LANG.
wikipedia.org though). You can also make it look like a nice website
(e.g. f-spot.org), not just like wiki with a default theme. It could
just work.

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/8/10, Gregory Pittman wrote:

 I think maybe the Create site could work if it had a different/better
 portal, where what's there now could be accessed from it, but you could
 have other directions to go from that portal.

There is another thing I'm quite concerned with: the blogs aggregator.

Right now we have two planets running simultaneously and started by
two people at more or less the same time (create's one and
graphicsplanet.org), and I'm quilty of having supported both (it was
partly because getting SSH access on new fd.o machine didn't work back
in time).

I don't really know how many people read each: neither have feedburner
based RSS, so it's hard to tell. But I have a feeling that two planets
is an overkill.

From maintenance point of view graphicsplanet.org is a successor: it
has two maintainers (muks and me) and relies on a newer engine.
CREATE's planet is unmaintained AFAIK and uses old engine. OTOH from
integration POV create's planet is better, if you intend to build new
stuff on top of create. And thus I'm back to square one :-/

What do you think?

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Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/8/10, Camille Bissuel wrote:
 That's not a bad idea, but Is Mediawiki have RSS support (diffusion +
 aggregation ) ?

The only RSS for Mediawiki I ever used was for recent changes. Never
wondered if it can generate other feeds.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

2010-08-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/8/10, jon wrote:

 Also, while Libre Graphics
 Meeting has been a success, I still feel that the concept of graphics
 is too narrow for a larger organization. We should look to support the
 spectrum of free and open source source creative applications,
 including sound programs, video programs (which are totally weak IMO
 right now), and many other not-purely graphics applications.

You will have to convince LinuxAudio consortium that they need to
merge with a not yet existing organization :)

http://linuxaudio.org/about

I do agree with your point though.

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Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster examples, call to developers.

2010-07-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/8/10, Jon Nordby wrote:

 Is there some particular type of OpenRaster files you are missing?
 Personally I miss files with nested layers, and files with metadata.
 *eyes Krita people*

*eyes GIMP's OpenRaster exporting plug-in author* :)

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Re: [CREATE] Short words

2010-07-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/6/10, Igor Novikov wrote:

 From Moscow tickets on next month start from 1300 USD

No, they don't. A flight from Moscow to Vietnam's capitol starts at
24K rubles, which is far below 1K USD.

At this point I'm fine with going to *any* LGM venue you guys/girls
pick as well as not going to LGM at all, because the whole next LGM
discussion is making me sick.

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[CREATE] pledgie campaign, success

2010-07-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

In the heat of next venue discussions it has passed somewhat
unnoticed that the LGM pledgie has reached its goal: 10K USD. Oh wait,
no -- it's 10.001 USD :)

Let's give a huge warm virtual hug to our amazing community.

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Re: [CREATE] Decision for LGM 2011 venue — Action required

2010-06-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/26/10, Louis Desjardins wrote:

 We have 3 bids (in alphabetical order):
 Brasil: http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference_2011_Brasil_Bid
 Canada: http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference_2011_Montr%C3%A9al_Bid
 Vietnam:  http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference_2011_Vietnam_Bid

To me the choice is clear between Brazil and Vietnam, because (sorry,
Louis :)) Montreal conferences have always been more like meetings of
developers and presence of actual users was scarce. After this year's
success going back to just developers meetings (which also not
everybody can attend, like last year) to me is losing momentum and
thus is out of question.

Both Brazil and Vietnam will lose us a number of developers who could
attend a conference in Europe or Canada, for a number of reasons,
which means that to make the conference successful we need to make it
well attended by actual users of software in question. Again, if we
want to keep the momentum, we will need:

1. Local team that is in touch with local communities of graphics
designers, DTP specialists, 3D artists, architects and so on.

2. Actual local communities of [see above].

3. Several local (language barrier, difference in cultures) activists
who actually use the software in question professionally to do
workshops. This is less important if we have people like rejon and
andyfitz aboard who have spent a considerable amount of time in Asia.

4. Some of the past organizers around at least several days before
start of the conference to help sorting out things (better -- a week
before).

After reading Vietnam bid I see a lot of clear honest information on
just about everything. There is much less information on the Brazil
bid.

Both bids however miss detailed information on local communities (yes,
we know some of the best FLOSS designers are in Brazil, but
nevertheless). On the other hand after checking translations of
related free applications I see that Brazil got there, while Vietnam
is only getting there, and that, in my opinion, says a lot about local
communities.

And thus I don't see a clear winner as of now.

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Re: [CREATE] Free as in Speech, and Vietnam?

2010-06-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 6/14/10, Agnez wrote:

 I talked to Vietnamese last week who do FOSS events, but they don't have
 a clue about human rights

You know, this phrase has at least two meanings, one of them quite scary :)

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