Re: [Crm-sig] HomeWork, ISSUE 276, P49

[martin]

Dear Simon,

Your argument well taken, I hope I have not been misunderstood: In the 
case of the 12 spoons, forks, and knives, one may argue that as long as 
the majority of parts is in the hands of the curator, he has keept it, 
even if every piece has temporarily left his hands. This is different 
from marking the chassis. One could even allow for all parts being 
exchanged, if the object's identity is defined respectively. I'd regard 
these as different ways to define a representative part. I believe they 
are all acceptable, as long as they do not come in conflict with the 
natural concept of identity of the object, and do not cause ambiguity 
about who has the object and who the parts. With the cutlery, indeed 
someone could be regarded keeper of the whole, and all parts 
dissapearing into different hands, leaving the keeper of the whole with 
nothing in his hands. I think this should be avoided. Does that make

sense?

Cheers,

Martin

On 5/10/2015 7:07 μμ, Simon Spero wrote:


I would argue that the extreme case is not the set of cutlery, but the 
Ship of Theseus- or more practically, the Car of Enzo.


For models such as the 250 GTO,  it is very much the provenance in 
association with the chassis number that determine the identity over 
time.


If a vehicle is crashed, then restored without a transfer of custody, 
any application of the new scope note may be post hoc.


Simon

On Oct 5, 2015 10:13 AM, "martin" > wrote:


Dear All,

Issue:


P49:

This shortcut supposes the existence of at least one
representative part standing physically for the whole. Discuss
knowledge revision process if a piece taken to be the
representative of the whole must be regarded piece of another.
Things kept may have parts in other hands.

A comment should be stated. Steve, MD, Athinak should think together

I propose the scope note addition:

Scope note:This property identifies the E39 Actor or Actors who
have or have had custody of an instance of E18 Physical Thing at
some time. This property leaves open the question if parts of this
physical thing have been added or removed during the time-spans it
has been under the custody of this actor, but it is required that
at least a part which can unambiguously be identified as
representing the whole has been under this custody for its whole
time. For instance, in the extreme case of a set of cutlery we may
require the majority of pieces having been in the hands of the actor.


Best,

Martin

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[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM - issue 276 Shortcuts, P2

[George Bruseker]

Dear all,

With regards to knowledge creation process and shortcuts and, in particular, 
P2, a draft position formulated by Øyvind and myself is offered below: 

“All knowledge in a data system is introduced into said system by a human 
agent, either directly or indirectly. In the domain of cultural heritage there 
are clear systems of responsibility for collection documentation and 
management, ideally specified in institutional policy and protocol documents. 
We stress that this is a claim about official responsibility rather than a 
claim about the level of knowledge at the side of actual employees of museums.  
 When people use a collections system they are many times engaging more in 
‘naming’ than in ‘attributing’.  That it to say, they are giving labels for the 
sake of having a label. Knowledge of what that thing is may come later and lead 
to an attribute assignment.

As a general ideal rule then, any piece of information found in a museum 
collection database can be seen to be the basic documentation position of the 
institution responsible for the database with regards to the object in 
question. The only exception is represented by information that carries with it 
an explicit statement of responsibility.

In CRM such statements of responsibility are expressed though knowledge 
creation events such as E13 Attribute Assignment with subclasses. Any 
information in a CRM model which is based on an explicit creation event for 
that piece of information is attributed to be the responsibility of the actor 
identified as causal in that event (provided the creator’s identity has been 
made explicit for that event). For any information connected to knowledge 
creation events that do not explicitly reference their creator, as well as any 
information not connected to creation events, the responsibility falls back to 
the institution responsible for the database/knowledge graph. That means that 
for information only expressed through shortcuts such as ‘P2 has type’, where 
no knowledge creation event has been explicitly specified, the originating 
creation event cannot be deduced and the responsibility for the information can 
never be any other body than the institution responsible for the whole 
information system.” 

Looking forward to discuss at the meeting.

Sincerely,

George

Re: [Crm-sig] HomeWork, ISSUE 276, P49

[Simon Spero]

I would argue that the extreme case is not the set of cutlery, but the Ship
of Theseus- or more practically, the Car of Enzo.

For models such as the 250 GTO,  it is very much the provenance in
association with the chassis number that determine the identity over time.

If a vehicle is crashed, then restored without a transfer of custody, any
application of the new scope note may be post hoc.

Simon
On Oct 5, 2015 10:13 AM, "martin"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Issue:
> P49:
>
> This shortcut supposes the existence of at least one representative part
> standing physically for the whole. Discuss knowledge revision process if a
> piece taken to be the representative of the whole must be regarded piece of
> another. Things kept may have parts in other hands.
>
> A comment should be stated. Steve, MD, Athinak should think together
>
>
>
> I propose the scope note addition:
>
> Scope note:  This property identifies the E39 Actor or Actors who
> have or have had custody of an instance of E18 Physical Thing at some time.
> This property leaves open the question if parts of this physical thing have
> been added or removed during the time-spans it has been under the custody
> of this actor, but it is required that at least a part which can
> unambiguously be identified as representing the whole has been under this
> custody for its whole time. For instance, in the extreme case of a set of
> cutlery we may require the majority of pieces having been in the hands of
> the actor.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
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Re: [Crm-sig] HomeWork, ISSUE 276, P49

[Simon Spero]

I would argue that the extreme case is not the set of cutlery, but the Ship
of Theseus- or more practically, the Car of Enzo.

For models such as the 250 GTO,  it is very much the provenance in
association with the chassis number that determine the identity over time.

If a vehicle is crashed, then restored without a transfer of custody, any
application of the new scope note may be post hoc.

Simon
On Oct 5, 2015 10:13 AM, "martin"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Issue:
> P49:
>
> This shortcut supposes the existence of at least one representative part
> standing physically for the whole. Discuss knowledge revision process if a
> piece taken to be the representative of the whole must be regarded piece of
> another. Things kept may have parts in other hands.
>
> A comment should be stated. Steve, MD, Athinak should think together
>
>
>
> I propose the scope note addition:
>
> Scope note:  This property identifies the E39 Actor or Actors who
> have or have had custody of an instance of E18 Physical Thing at some time.
> This property leaves open the question if parts of this physical thing have
> been added or removed during the time-spans it has been under the custody
> of this actor, but it is required that at least a part which can
> unambiguously be identified as representing the whole has been under this
> custody for its whole time. For instance, in the extreme case of a set of
> cutlery we may require the majority of pieces having been in the hands of
> the actor.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
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>
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Re: [Crm-sig] HW- reminder: Re: hw issue 255

[martin]

On 24/9/2015 3:57 μμ, Chryssoula Bekiari wrote:

Martin and Steve

In Oxford meeting, discussing the question posed in the list about how 
to describe the shape of objects, we discussed also about colour. In 
the minutes we have noted that
" The problem is the colours you may observe are depended by the 
granularity you look up.Discussing about the physical parameters that 
the colour depends on, we decided that these are thenormalized light 
source andthe surface area selected integrate the light reflections. 
(HIS dimensions relates to RTI imaging).The crm-sig assigned to MD to 
write and Steve Stead to review the FAQ on shape and colour. "


regards

Chryssoula


On 27/2/2015 3:05 μμ, Chryssoula Bekiari wrote:

Homework reminder for the forthcoming meeting

Chryssoula




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[Crm-sig] HomeWork, ISSUE 276, P49

[martin]

Dear All,

Issue:


   P49:

This shortcut supposes the existence of at least one representative part 
standing physically for the whole. Discuss knowledge revision process if 
a piece taken to be the representative of the whole must be regarded 
piece of another. Things kept may have parts in other hands.


A comment should be stated. Steve, MD, Athinak should think together

I propose the scope note addition:

Scope note:This property identifies the E39 Actor or Actors who have or 
have had custody of an instance of E18 Physical Thing at some time. This 
property leaves open the question if parts of this physical thing have 
been added or removed during the time-spans it has been under the 
custody of this actor, but it is required that at least a part which can 
unambiguously be identified as representing the whole has been under 
this custody for its whole time. For instance, in the extreme case of a 
set of cutlery we may require the majority of pieces having been in the 
hands of the actor.



Best,

Martin

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[Crm-sig] Call for papers - Special Issue of IJDL on "Extending, Mapping and Focusing the CIDOC CRM"

[Franco Niccolucci]

Dear colleagues,

following the successful workshop at the TPDL2015 Conference held few weeks 
ago, the International Journal on Digital Libraries has agreed to publish a 
special issue on "Extending, Mapping and Focusing the CIDOC CRM”.

The Call for Papers is now available online here:

http://www.springer.com/799 (on the right side of the page, under “Special 
Issues: Call for Papers”)

Here are the important aspects of the CfP:

Submitted papers should assess and consolidate the advancement of CRM 
applications and they should indicate new avenues for future research in the 
knowledge organization domain, as regards heritage-related applications. They 
should also foster cross-domain fertilization between the heritage and digital 
libraries communities and provide a forum for debating the mutual impact of 
research questions in archaeology and heritage versus the most recent trends in 
digital libraries investigations. Due to the specific theme, contributions will 
be required to address together both knowledge organization aspects and the 
application profile. They will consist of research papers or top-quality 
reports of good practices, highlighting their exemplary innovation content.

Themes will include, but not limit to:

•  Extensions and specializations of the CRM for heritage and 
archaeology applications
•  Extensions and specializations of the CRM in digital humanities
•  Mapping existing metadata schemas to the CRM
•  Mapping repositories and tools
•  CRM and other documentation standards
•  Using CRM for gazetteers and thesauri
•  Using CRM in Linked Data
•  CRM and Natural Language Processing
•  Formalization of CRM
•  Querying, searching and faceted browsing of CRM repositories
•  Reasoning with CRM
•  Introduction of new key concepts in the CRM

Key dates:

•   December 31, 2015 Paper Submission deadline
•   February 28, 2016 First notification
•   April 30, 2016 Revision submission
•   June 30, 2016 Second notification
•   July 31, 2016 Final version submission

Paper Submission

Papers submitted to this special issue for possible publication must be 
original and must not be under consideration for publication in any other 
journal or conference. Previously published or accepted conference papers must 
contain at least 30% new material to be considered for the special issue.
All papers are to be submitted by referring to http://www.springer.com/799. At 
the beginning of the submission process, under “Article Type”, please select 
the appropriate special issue. All manuscripts must be prepared according to 
the journal publication guidelines which can also be found on the website 
provided above. Papers will be reviewed following the journal standard review 
process.

Feel free to contact me for any further information.

Best regards

Franco

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ARIADNE - PARTHENOS

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