Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: Related examples

[Martin Doerr via Crm-sig]

On 11/7/2024 1:41 μ.μ., George Bruseker wrote:

Dear Martin,

If we went in the direction of graphic example, perhaps there could be 
a referenced draw.io  graph which could be hosted on 
the site. The danger of course is link staleness etc. However, 
ignoring that problem, probably more like an illustration page like 
the current 'functional overview' graphs. but for particular use case 
examples. So again IF we did such a thing then maybe we would want to 
pick out a format of the things that should go into such an example 
page ( a la functional overview diagrams).

Yes, sure, and links should be automatically maintained in some way.

best,

Martin


All best,

George

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 12:32 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig 
 wrote:


Dear All,

There has been invested a great lot of work in related examples,
but they are not linked, such as:

the examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 by Nicholas Pickwoad in
November 2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)

The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) assigned attribute to
MS Sinai Greek 418 (E22). (Honey and Pickwoad, 2010)

The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) /assigned/ unsupported
(E55.) (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)

The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) /assigned property of
type/ binding structure type (E55). [‘binding structure type’
refers to a property, external to the CIDOC CRM, which connects a
book (E22) to the type of its binding structure (E55)] (Honey &
Pickwoad, 2010)

I propose to discuss and decide quickly an effective method for
connecting these examples. Graphics would also be nice, but a "see
also" would already be of huge help.

Best,

Martin

-- 


  Dr. Martin Doerr
   
  Honorary Head of the

  Center for Cultural Informatics
  
  Information Systems Laboratory

  Institute of Computer Science
  Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
   
  N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,

  GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece

  Email:mar...@ics.forth.gr   
  Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl





Χωρίς ιούς.www.avast.com




<#m_-3873909119046156169_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
___
Crm-sig mailing list
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig




--

 Dr. Martin Doerr
  
 Honorary Head of the

 Center for Cultural Informatics
 
 Information Systems Laboratory

 Institute of Computer Science
 Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
  
 N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,

 GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
   
 Email:mar...@ics.forth.gr   
 Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl



--
Αυτό το email έχει ελεγχθεί για ιούς από το Avast antivirus.
www.avast.com___
Crm-sig mailing list
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: Related examples

[George Bruseker via Crm-sig]

Dear Martin,

If we went in the direction of graphic example, perhaps there could be a
referenced draw.io graph which could be hosted on the site. The danger of
course is link staleness etc. However, ignoring that problem, probably more
like an illustration page like the current 'functional overview' graphs.
but for particular use case examples. So again IF we did such a thing then
maybe we would want to pick out a format of the things that should go into
such an example page ( a la functional overview diagrams).

All best,

George

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 12:32 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> There has been invested a great lot of work in related examples, but they
> are not linked, such as:
>
>   the examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 by Nicholas Pickwoad in November
> 2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)
>
>   The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) assigned attribute to MS
> Sinai Greek 418 (E22). (Honey and Pickwoad, 2010)
>
>   The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) *assigned* unsupported
> (E55.) (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)
>
>   The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) *assigned property of type*
> binding structure type (E55). [‘binding structure type’ refers to a
> property, external to the CIDOC CRM, which connects a book (E22) to the
> type of its binding structure (E55)] (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)
> I propose to discuss and decide quickly an effective method for connecting
> these examples. Graphics would also be nice, but a "see also" would already
> be of huge help.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> --
> 
>  Dr. Martin Doerr
>
>  Honorary Head of the
>  Center for Cultural Informatics
>
>  Information Systems Laboratory
>  Institute of Computer Science
>  Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
>
>  N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
>  GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
>
>  Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr
>  Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl
>
>
>
> 
>  Χωρίς
> ιούς.www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_-3873909119046156169_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> ___
> Crm-sig mailing list
> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig
>
___
Crm-sig mailing list
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

[Crm-sig] Conflicting use of P177

[Martin Doerr via Crm-sig]

Dear All,

As to be expected, examination of related examples reveals problems:

"P177 assigned property of type" has not been harmonized with the 
subclasses of E13 Attribute assignment. For E15 Identifier Assignment, 
E17 Type Assignment, E16 Measurement, this is straightforward, but needs 
a formulation in FOL and scope notes. For E14 Condition Assessment, this 
still needs to be defined.


The collected examples reveal inconsistent use:

the condition assessment of the endband cores of MS Sinai Greek 418 by 
Nicholas Pickwoad in November 2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


The condition assessment of the endband cores of MS Sinai Greek 418 
(E14) /assigned property of type/ damage (E55.) [‘damage’ refers to a 
property, external to the CIDOC CRM, which connects an instance of a 
physical thing like an endband core (E22) to the type of damage (E55) it 
shows] (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


The condition assessment of the endband cores of MS Sinai Greek 418 
(E14) /concerned/ the endband cores of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E22). (Honey 
and Pickwoad, 2010)


The condition assessment of the endband cores of MS Sinai Greek 418 
(E14) /has identified/ the condition state in November 2003 (E3). [which 
/has type/ broken (E55)] (Honey and Pickwoad, 2010)


the condition assessment of the cover of MS Sinai Greek 418 by Nicholas 
Pickwoad in November 2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


The condition assessment of the cover of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E14) 
/assigned property of type/ quality (E55). [‘quality’ refers to a 
property, external to the CIDOC CRM, which connects an instance of a 
physical thing like a book cover (E22) to its quality (E55)] (Honey and 
Pickwoad, 2010)


The condition assessment of the cover of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E14) 
/concerned/ the cover of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E22). (Honey and Pickwoad, 
2010)


The condition assessment of the cover of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E14) /has 
identified/ the condition state in November 2003 (E3). [which /has type/ 
fine (E55)] (Honey and Pickwoad, 2010)


Further, these constitute better examples of Condition State than the 
fictitious ones currently used.


Best,

Martin

--

 Dr. Martin Doerr
  
 Honorary Head of the

 Center for Cultural Informatics
 
 Information Systems Laboratory

 Institute of Computer Science
 Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
  
 N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,

 GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
   
 Email:mar...@ics.forth.gr   
 Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl



--
Αυτό το email έχει ελεγχθεί για ιούς από το Avast antivirus.
www.avast.com___
Crm-sig mailing list
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

[Crm-sig] Issue: Related examples

[Martin Doerr via Crm-sig]

Dear All,

There has been invested a great lot of work in related examples, but 
they are not linked, such as:


the examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 by Nicholas Pickwoad in November 
2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) assigned attribute to MS 
Sinai Greek 418 (E22). (Honey and Pickwoad, 2010)


The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) /assigned/ unsupported 
(E55.) (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


The examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 (E13) /assigned property of type/ 
binding structure type (E55). [‘binding structure type’ refers to a 
property, external to the CIDOC CRM, which connects a book (E22) to the 
type of its binding structure (E55)] (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010)


I propose to discuss and decide quickly an effective method for 
connecting these examples. Graphics would also be nice, but a "see also" 
would already be of huge help.


Best,

Martin

--

 Dr. Martin Doerr
  
 Honorary Head of the

 Center for Cultural Informatics
 
 Information Systems Laboratory

 Institute of Computer Science
 Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
  
 N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,

 GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
   
 Email:mar...@ics.forth.gr   
 Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl



--
Αυτό το email έχει ελεγχθεί για ιούς από το Avast antivirus.
www.avast.com___
Crm-sig mailing list
Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig