Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 274: archetypical sounds

[Martin Doerr via Crm-sig]

Dear Thanasi,

This is also my understanding. Basically, we would need properties 
substantially different from other information objects, and different 
from audiovisual recordings for a new class, that would express 
relations not covered by others in the CRM, and essential in these 
applications. To my understanding, these have not been identified so far.


The question of bird songs that came up is more complex, because it is a 
type-type relation: species A uses to sing soundtype B.


Another aspect is sound as intangible heritage, very different again.

All the best,

Martin

On 6/15/2021 6:15 PM, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
Maybe we have failed to document the issue in its development but my 
understanding was that we were looking for use cases from sound arts 
where a sound piece with distinct identity (for example) has been used 
as part of another sound piece. The integration would have been 
required to identify these as related separate entities thus providing 
an additional argument for the new class. This is different to the 
typical preservation metadata documented for audio recordings or 
performances.


All the best,

Thanasis

On 15/06/2021 10:24, George Bruseker wrote:
I imagine I'm running fast at windmills here but I already prepared a 
homework for this several sigs ago in which I list dozens of 
collections of sounds. There is documentation and research on sound 
in CH.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit 
 



What exactly are we searching for in this issue?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 5:29 PM Дарья Юрьевна Гук via Crm-sig 
mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:


    __
    Dear colleagues,

    the examples of cataloguing the audiovisual information exist, and
    an expert gave it me:
http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE

    Details: Chinese standard includes 25 positions of metadata (code of
    archive, its category, level of invenorisation, unique identifier,
    file numver, name of the scan creator, date of digital copying, date
    of the next conversion/migration, permission, notes, address of real
    location, original носитель, mode of digital copying, copying
    device, software and OS, name of file, size of file, format, video
    parameters, audio paremeters etc.)

    Something similar was  proposed for the Russian archives.

    With kind regards,
    Daria Hookk

    Senior Researcher of
    the dept. of archaeology of
    Eastern Europe and Siberia of
    the State Hermitage Museum,
    PhD, ICOMOS member

    E-mail: ho...@hermitage.ru 
    Skype: daria.hookk
    https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria
    
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 274: archetypical sounds

[Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig]

Maybe we have failed to document the issue in its development but my 
understanding was that we were looking for use cases from sound arts 
where a sound piece with distinct identity (for example) has been used 
as part of another sound piece. The integration would have been required 
to identify these as related separate entities thus providing an 
additional argument for the new class. This is different to the typical 
preservation metadata documented for audio recordings or performances.


All the best,

Thanasis

On 15/06/2021 10:24, George Bruseker wrote:
I imagine I'm running fast at windmills here but I already prepared a 
homework for this several sigs ago in which I list dozens of collections 
of sounds. There is documentation and research on sound in CH.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit 



What exactly are we searching for in this issue?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 5:29 PM Дарья Юрьевна Гук via Crm-sig 
mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:


__
Dear colleagues,

the examples of cataloguing the audiovisual information exist, and
an expert gave it me:

http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE


Details: Chinese standard includes 25 positions of metadata (code of
archive, its category, level of invenorisation, unique identifier,
file numver, name of the scan creator, date of digital copying, date
of the next conversion/migration, permission, notes, address of real
location, original носитель, mode of digital copying, copying
device, software and OS, name of file, size of file, format, video
parameters, audio paremeters etc.)

Something similar was  proposed for the Russian archives.

With kind regards,
Daria Hookk

Senior Researcher of
the dept. of archaeology of
Eastern Europe and Siberia of
the State Hermitage Museum,
PhD, ICOMOS member

E-mail: ho...@hermitage.ru 
Skype: daria.hookk
https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria

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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 274: archetypical sounds

[George Bruseker via Crm-sig]

I imagine I'm running fast at windmills here but I already prepared a
homework for this several sigs ago in which I list dozens of collections of
sounds. There is documentation and research on sound in CH.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziNlZNCAYxAATNP7jycBPKT-v9Rhg4RUHt4dlpPS4-c/edit

What exactly are we searching for in this issue?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 5:29 PM Дарья Юрьевна Гук via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> the examples of cataloguing the audiovisual information exist, and an
> expert gave it me:
>
> http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE
> Details: Chinese standard includes 25 positions of metadata (code of
> archive, its category, level of invenorisation, unique identifier, file
> numver, name of the scan creator, date of digital copying, date of the next
> conversion/migration, permission, notes, address of real location, original
> носитель, mode of digital copying, copying device, software and OS, name of
> file, size of file, format, video parameters, audio paremeters etc.)
>
> Something similar was  proposed for the Russian archives.
>
> With kind regards,
> Daria Hookk
>
> Senior Researcher of
> the dept. of archaeology of
> Eastern Europe and Siberia of
> the State Hermitage Museum,
> PhD, ICOMOS member
>
> E-mail: ho...@hermitage.ru
> Skype: daria.hookk
> https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 274: archetypical sounds

[Дарья Юрьевна Гук via Crm-sig]

Dear colleagues,


the examples of cataloguing the audiovisual information exist, and an expert 
gave it me:
 
http://www.dapx.org/showservices.asp?ID=1003=IwAR1MoBC2u07qVOGw5X3z2nZRjiu64SYAWDt6PQx-qlG8bRmmqkpPlo2srkE
Details: Chinese standard includes 25 positions of metadata (code of archive, 
its category, level of invenorisation, unique identifier, file numver, name of 
the scan creator, date of digital copying, date of the next 
conversion/migration, permission, notes, address of real location, original 
носитель, mode of digital copying, copying device, software and OS, name of 
file, size of file, format, video parameters, audio paremeters etc.)


Something similar was  proposed for the Russian archives.


With kind regards,
Daria Hookk

Senior Researcher of
the dept. of archaeology of
Eastern Europe and Siberia of 
the State Hermitage Museum,
PhD, ICOMOS member

E-mail: ho...@hermitage.ru
Skype: daria.hookk
https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria___
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