Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Wenz, Michael]

Update on the offset: on request Graphiti will be at +2 starting with Oxygen.

Michael

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Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

Michael
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Ed Willink]

Hi

Comments inline.

Regards

Ed Willink

On 18/07/2016 16:42, Doug Schaefer wrote:
The +# days thing has never made sense, really. If you really chain 
dependencies I’m sure you’d get into double digits. In fact, CDT 
cycles on itself with a couple of other projects.
It's not perfect, but its better than nothing. At +1, we have EMF < UML 
< OCL, and worse OCL depends on XText at +2. We survive, only one OCL 
re-contribution in a couple of years.

Graphiti at +2, seems better.


Probably what would be better would be a better way to publicize API 
changes that affect downstream builds. Don’t really have an answer 
there but it is what causes problems. If APIs are well managed, in 
theory, you can build before you’re dependencies do.
I think that it would be reasonable to very strongly recommend that 
breaking API appear in an I-build a week before +0 so that nightly 
builds should detect problems comfortably before the last minute.


Just a thought,
Doug.

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"Wenz, Michael" >
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Date: Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

David,

yes, you are right Graphiti is a framework. On the other hand we
have dependencies to GEF and EMF Transactions/Validation with is
at +2.

Graphiti has been on +3 since it joined the release train, so far
it has never been an issue. Or at least these issues did not reach
me.

In case any user of Graphiti struggles with this, this would be a
good time to speak up. I’m open towards changing to an earlier day
in case that is required.

Thanks,

Michael

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in Oxygen

I believe Graphiti is a "framework", right? To be used by others?
As such +3 does not make much sense. +3 is more for "leaf"
components that no one else depends on. +1 or +2 makes more sense
to me, depending on what you depend on.

As always, feel free to correct any misconceptions I have.





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Date: 07/18/2016 02:23 AM
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen
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Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Carl Anderson]

Michael,

WTP does have a prereq on Graphiti (for our JPA Diagram Editor), and
we are at +2.  (And you said that GEF is at +2... they are at +1).  It
would be beneficial for WTP if Graphiti were to move up to +2 (at least).
Are there any plans for Graphiti to leave the "incubation" state for
Oxygen?

FWIW,

- Carl Anderson
WTP Releng project lead



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To: Cross project issues 
Date:   07/18/2016 11:25 AM
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen
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David,

yes, you are right Graphiti is a framework. On the other hand we have
dependencies to GEF and EMF Transactions/Validation with is at +2.

Graphiti has been on +3 since it joined the release train, so far it has
never been an issue. Or at least these issues did not reach me.

In case any user of Graphiti struggles with this, this would be a good time
to speak up. I’m open towards changing to an earlier day in case that is
required.

Thanks,
Michael

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Williams
Sent: Montag, 18. Juli 2016 16:25
To: Cross project issues 
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

I believe Graphiti is a "framework", right? To be used by others? As such
+3 does not make much sense. +3 is more for "leaf" components that no one
else depends on. +1 or +2 makes more sense to me, depending on what you
depend on.

As always, feel free to correct any misconceptions I have.





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To:Cross project issues ,
Date:07/18/2016 02:23 AM
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen
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Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Doug Schaefer]

The +# days thing has never made sense, really. If you really chain 
dependencies I’m sure you’d get into double digits. In fact, CDT cycles on 
itself with a couple of other projects.

Probably what would be better would be a better way to publicize API changes 
that affect downstream builds. Don’t really have an answer there but it is what 
causes problems. If APIs are well managed, in theory, you can build before 
you’re dependencies do.

Just a thought,
Doug.

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>
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>
Date: Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:22 AM
To: Cross project issues 
>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

David,

yes, you are right Graphiti is a framework. On the other hand we have 
dependencies to GEF and EMF Transactions/Validation with is at +2.

Graphiti has been on +3 since it joined the release train, so far it has never 
been an issue. Or at least these issues did not reach me.

In case any user of Graphiti struggles with this, this would be a good time to 
speak up. I’m open towards changing to an earlier day in case that is required.

Thanks,
Michael

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Williams
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To: Cross project issues 
>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

I believe Graphiti is a "framework", right? To be used by others? As such +3 
does not make much sense. +3 is more for "leaf" components that no one else 
depends on. +1 or +2 makes more sense to me, depending on what you depend on.

As always, feel free to correct any misconceptions I have.





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Date:07/18/2016 02:23 AM
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen
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Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Wenz, Michael]

David,

yes, you are right Graphiti is a framework. On the other hand we have 
dependencies to GEF and EMF Transactions/Validation with is at +2.

Graphiti has been on +3 since it joined the release train, so far it has never 
been an issue. Or at least these issues did not reach me.

In case any user of Graphiti struggles with this, this would be a good time to 
speak up. I'm open towards changing to an earlier day in case that is required.

Thanks,
Michael

From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of David M 
Williams
Sent: Montag, 18. Juli 2016 16:25
To: Cross project issues 
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

I believe Graphiti is a "framework", right? To be used by others? As such +3 
does not make much sense. +3 is more for "leaf" components that no one else 
depends on. +1 or +2 makes more sense to me, depending on what you depend on.

As always, feel free to correct any misconceptions I have.





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Date:07/18/2016 02:23 AM
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen
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Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

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[cross-project-issues-dev] New to Neon.1? Please "announce" and be sure Release Record is accurate.

[David M Williams]

I am not sure we have been very explicit about it so I will be now. 

For anyone that is joining the Neon train in the update release of Neon.1 
please announce here on this list and be sure your release record is "up 
to date" to reflect the September date. 

I think in some cases, people may have long ago said they would be skip 
Neon and be in Neon.1, but a new announcement here would be appreciated 
... just as a reminder and for easier "book keeping". 

And, don't forget, if new to Neon.1 you should be in "checkpoint" build, 
(by July 27 at the latest) and then RCs start a month after that. 

Thanks as always, 



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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[David M Williams]

I believe Graphiti is a "framework", right? To be used by others? As such 
+3 does not make much sense. +3 is more for "leaf" components that no one 
else depends on. +1 or +2 makes more sense to me, depending on what you 
depend on. 

As always, feel free to correct any misconceptions I have. 





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To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   07/18/2016 02:23 AM
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in 
Oxygen
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Hi,
 
Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0
 
Offset will be +3.
 
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[cross-project-issues-dev] BPEL Designer participating in Oxygen

[Bob Brodt]

The BPEL Designer will participate in Oxygen. Offset is +1

https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/soa.bpel/releases/1.1.1

Cheers,
Bob

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[cross-project-issues-dev] BPMN2 Modeler participating in Oxygen

[Bob Brodt]

BPMN2 Modeler will participate in Oxygen. Offset +1

https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/soa.bpmn2-modeler/releases/1.4.0

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[cross-project-issues-dev] GEF participating in Oxygen

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Hi,

GEF will participate in Oxygen. Offset is +1 (as usual).

http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.gef/releases/5.0.0-oxygen

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[cross-project-issues-dev] Graphiti participating in Oxygen

[Wenz, Michael]

Hi,

Graphiti will be participating in Oxygen:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.graphiti/releases/0.14.0

Offset will be +3.

Michael
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